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Spot on as usual. The amount of pro Zelensky information being pumped out to the gullible masses is frightening.
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@tonymccaul7159 This may well be true, but the Russian Federation is not the Soviet Union. Pretending that it is has been a major platform for NATO expansionism, which is in itself a vehicle for American commercial expansionism. Another objective is the reduction of Russia to the status of a second-rate power which can at the same time be held up as the permanent enemy the military/industrial complex needs in order to continue making vast profits from the American taxpayer.
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@Vzzdak There are no signs whatsoever that Russia wished to expand westwards after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Russia had learned the lesson of history that ultimately empires are not worth the bother, and often lead to the implosive destruction of the central authority. NATO is a vehicle of American expansionism, and needs Russia to appear to be a threat in order to survive.
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@Vzzdak The military conflicts in which the Russian Federation has been involved have not been undertaken to expand westwards - or in any direction for that matter. They have purely been to secure its existing borders and to protect its existing interests. The invasion of Ukraine very much enters into this category. NATO countries, by contrast, have been involved in far more military adventures, most of which can clearly be seen to be motivated by the desire to expand America's imperial ambitions. Here is a list of invasions, coups, and interventions by NATO members since the break up of the Soviet Union. Iraq (twice) Rwanda Yugoslavia Nepal Afghanistan Liberia Ethiopia Guinea Bissau Philippines Venezuela Syria Iran Libya Colombia Haiti Ukraine Yemen Palestine Apart from being obvious that NATO needs an enemy in order to justify its existence, the fact that the Russian Federation has tried on a number of occasions to join and been curtly refused does rather tend to emphasise the point.
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@Vzzdak Once again you prove the point. What more effective way of discouraging military expansion could there be than for the country you fear might so expand to join your alliance? In any case it is ridiculous to say the point of NATO is to discourage military expansion. The exact opposite is the case. It exists primarily as a market place for the arms trade and the military/ industrial complex upon which the American economy depends.
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@Vzzdak Oh yes, Tremendous sense. The "tripwire" has now set off a disastrous war in which thousands are dying and a country lies in ruins.
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@tonymccaul7159 It will not become a second rate power, but there are those in the West who believe they can make it so. They believe that they can wrest control of these resources away from those who hold them at present, both by fomenting internal discord and, as in the present instance, by encouraging a proxy war primarily designed to transfer the energy resources of Ukraine from Russian interests to those of Western entities.
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@Vzzdak But it was the very threat of Ukraine joining NATO which was one of the prime causes of this war! As to the current state of play , has it crossed your mind that until now Russia has also been using old equipment to a considerable extent? Why would it do this when it has up-to-date equipment available? Why too did it not precede its initial ground invasion with an aerial bombardment, as it is doing now? Why did it not secure the territories it had gained before moving on? Think about it.
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@Vzzdak You're beginning to get it. The main reason for this war is that Russia wants Russian-leaning oligarchs to continue to control the huge mineral resources of Donbass, rather than them being taken over by American-leaning oligarchs. But you can't dismiss the NATO threat as mere propaganda. Simon is completely right. NATO has stepped over the line in even considering setting up shop in Ukraine. You can't dismiss the "Nazi" accusations either. There are some very weird people in the Ukrainian military who hate Russians as much as the Germans hated the Jews. They were unleashed on Donbass after the two oblasts declared independence, and began a campaign of torture and intimidation which was only somewhat reduced when the separatists began responding in kind. You are right about Russia being very profligate with men and materiel, but you are wrong about them being unable to produce up-to-date equipment. As demonstrated by the current aerial bombardment they have capacities which far exceed Western estimates. They have expended expendable resources like blotting paper to soak up Ukraine's new NATO subsidised army. How things go from here will very much depend upon what resources the two sides have left for the final conflict, which will begin any day now.
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@Vzzdak The Iranian drones are an excellent buy, and provide a very cheap and useful back-up to the faster cruise-type missiles which Russia continues to produce. Neither is used against civilian targets. Direct damage to purely civilian facilities is caused either by falling debris or missiles going astray - mostly Ukrainian ones.
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@Bezart34 I don't think you have to look very far to find examples of Zelensky worship. Just look at the clapping seals at the US Congress a few days ago, and take it from there. (I doubt Putin was even aware of the botched operation in Salisbury. It seems to have been more of a private quarrel than anything.)
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@Bezart34 I have read Putin's essay on the relationship between Russia and Ukraine, and it is historically accurate. He does not say that Ukraine should not exist as an independent nation. That is a crude summation. He merely points out that modern Ukraine owes its entire existence to Russia, and this is no more or less than the truth. Putin is essentially pragmatic. This is why he has survived for so long in what must be one of the most difficult jobs on the planet. He regrets the passing of his nation's former imperial glory, but he acknowledges that to attempt to reverse history and return to it would be folly. The sad and regrettable tragedy currently taking place in Ukraine is not a consequence of Russian expansionist ambitions, but rather of Russia's understandable resistance to the expansionist ambitions of the United States of America.
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@Bezart34 I know no such thing. I'm sure opinion in Russia is sharply divided on these issues. Nonetheless it strikes me as being far more likely that Putin's actions are in defence of Russia, rather than expressing some demented senile attempt to recreate the past.
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@Bezart34 Putin is defending his country and its interests from Western/NATO/ US aggression. NATO created a 600,000-strong army in Ukraine in order for the West to get its hands on the vast mineral wealth of Donbass , which Russia developed. Putin is pragmatic, sane and a true patriot.
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@Bezart34 It's politics. Putin is merely defending his country's interests. He has been ready to talk for years, but US greed has pushed him too far. If you want to blame anyone, blame the CIA.
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