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Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "NATO Secretary General: Ukraine aid is ‘not too late’ but the delay has left ‘consequences’" video.
Ukraine does not come to an end. It just continues in a different form - something which it is very much used to.
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Who are the Soviets? The term ceased to exist more than thirty years ago.
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@mile_high_topher I get so tired of these foolish analogies between Hitler and Putin. They may make simpletons feel clever, but they add nothing to the debate.
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@Sadbuttrue-ThatSwedishGirl These are foolish analogies. Ukraine was created a mere thirty years ago and by means of a flawed treaty which ignored the geographical and economic realities of the position. The places you mention were Spanish colonies. Donbass and Crimea were never colonies. They were, and are, parts of Russia.
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@DavidJ222 Western Ukraine can become America's poodle if it wishes. But Donbass and Crimea stay Russian.
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@WinterGK Except for the fact that a considerable portion of the population of Donbass and Crimea are of Russian heritage and prefer to be ruled from Moscow, rather than Kiev. Furthermore the very substantial mining and steelmaking industries in these regions were created by and financed by Russia and staffed by Russians. The inclusion of these areas in the newly-created country of Ukraine was a mistake which could have been corrected peacefully, but foreign interest in the mineral wealth has prevented this and led to a bloody and needless war.
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@petermartell568 Which no longer exists as a feature of government in Russia.
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@emsleywyatt3400 Absolute rubbish.
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@mile_high_topher No. Because they are Russian and the government in Kiev has let them down pretty badly.
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@mile_high_topher This difference of opinion is what the war is all about, On the one hand you have 300 years of history, on the other a couple of signatures on a bit of paper.
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@mile_high_topher It's not your fault you've been so brainwashed. Putin has no desire to re- establish the Russian Empire. He's in his 70s, he's got a crap army and he knows from personal experience how trying to rule foreign countries helps cause the collapse of a nation. This myth is necessary to the US and NATO because the US is a war-based economy which needs a permanent enemy, and has to give its more dim-witted citizens a hate figure and a fear-filled scenario in order to justify its constant warmongering.
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@mile_high_topher This is a myth. Putin is in his seventies, has a crap army and know from personal experience that trying to rule foreign countries leads to the collapse of your own. Sadly though the US needs a permanent enemy and hate figure to sustain its war-based economy and needs people like your good self to believe such nonsense in order to justify its continued aggression and interference in the affairs of other nations.
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@mile_high_topher The population of Crimea and the industrialised areas of Eastern Ukraine is substantially Russian. They were imported to work the mines and factories to replace the original Tatar inhabitants.
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@mile_high_topher I think the people involved care quite a lot.
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@mile_high_topher No. They are reasons. And it worth remembering that if Russia's proposals to end the difficulties had been accepted there would have been no war and thousands who are now dead would still be alive.
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@mile_high_topher Greed is to blame. Russia could have stood by and allowed a vast fortune to to be taken away from it, and there would have been no war. Ukraine could have agreed to allow Donbass to become independent and there would have been no war. America could have given up hope of getting hold of the vast fortune and there would have been no war. All in all, of the three greeds I think America's is the most blameworthy.
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@mile_high_topher He might want to in a dream world, or in the world of fantasy our leaders sell us in order to encourage war fever, but not in reality. He may be a tyrant and a dictator but he is far too sensible to embark on anything doomed to failure. You should read an essay he wrote just before the invasion. It is available on the Internet and makes his position very clear. It was written purely for internal consumption and is therefore not propaganda in any form. He says that the Ukrainian people and the Russian people are the same people, from the same stock, but if the Ukrainians want to turn to the West and split the family then, as sad as this is, it must be allowed. But they cannot take the family silver with them - or in this case the $14 trillion of mineral wealth lying beneath the soil of Eastern Ukraine.
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@mile_high_topher Putin has no such desire. He is far too sensible to embark on a course which would be doomed to failure, and he said as much in many essays, articles and interviews. What you have to realise is that constantly representing this as a threat the West's war machine stoke war fever and justifies its existence.
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This is just a gesture, designed to prop up the US economy more than to "save" Ukraine which is now beyond saving.
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