Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "Double Down News" channel.

  1. waxed link How curious it is that you believe the MSM is biased to the right! I'm very right-wing and it seems exactly the opposite to me! I have to go all the way to Sky News Australia to get coverage untainted by socialist self-righteousness and pomposity.
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  2. Do you include the people of Donbass, oppressed by Ukrainian Nazis since the 1990s and actually murdered and tortured by them since 2014?
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  3. You think America is a democracy???
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  4. Where does this 70,000 figure come from? According the Office of National Statistics 51, 264 people have died with Covid mentioned on their death certificates up until July 17. More precise definition is now being sought and the number of deaths where Covid 19 may have been an underlying cause is likely to be less. The government has made an utter balls up of dealing with this -as have most governments. But the figures are all over the place. Where do these extra 18,000 come from? Are they heart and cancer patients who have died due to lack of treatment? I only ask because I'd like to know.
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  5. How wonderful! As right-wing conservative I tune into this channel to find people to argue with or, failing that, to mock. Now I find someone who intelligently and articulately expresses views which I cannot help but endorse from the bottom of my heart.
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  6. Sure. Let rural small town America be ruled by city-dwellers, eh?
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  7. STOP PRESS: The Office of National Statistics has just released provisional death figures from all causes for July. There were 38,179 deaths registered That is 1,435 LESS than in July 2019. Deaths where Covid 19 was an UNDERLYING cause amounted to 2.6% of the total.
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  8. We get the journalism we deserve. The media survives by reflecting human instincts - not by attempting to shape them, as seems to be suggested here. The instinct for war cannot be overcome by logic nor shaped by reason. It is bred in the bone. Mankind is ruled by fear, not love.
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  9. History is history. How about some examples of systemic racism in the 21st century?
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  10. Professor Ashton mentioned World War II where millions of lives were lost and huge sacrifices made in order to preserve freedom. The Covid 19 pandemic was nothing like that. It was a novel covid which took a bite of a few tens of thousands of almost exclusively very elderly and very frail people who had insufficient resistance to its worst excesses. I use the past tense deliberately. The pandemic has been over in this country at least since June and what we are experiencing now is merely its endemic phase in which it has taken over as the top killer respiratory infection of the winter season. Seasonal death rates are close to normal. The only unusual increases appear to be among younger age groups and deaths at home. It is very possible that these anomalies will eventually be traced back to the negative effects of lockdowns. Death is always with us. It cannot be legislated against. We should Keep Calm and Carry On. Collapsing into hysteria has done more harm than good.
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  11. So good! And this war was totally avoidable too. It could end now if Ukraine agreed to Russia's entirely reasonable demands - and wouldn't even involve the shame of surrender.
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  12. Yeah, and who started it?
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  13. ujean56 ...stick you head in the sand! Put your fingers in your ears and go "wibble wibble wibble"! Surrender all pretensions to reasoned thought! Listen only to things that make you feel warm and fluffy inside! Accept it when you are told you are too poor and stupid and working-class to be able exercise critical judgement! Stay true to Socialism!
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  14. waxed link Which is a great deal better than them being aided and abetted by biased left-wing media. If the people in power read the Guardian we would all be dead by now. In Britain we are having a quiet revolution and sending socialism to its long-awaited rest. That nice Mr Murdoch has played very little part in this I do assure you. We reaiised ourselves what a bunch of self-righteous, patronising pricks the Labour party are all by ourselves, just by listening to them.
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  15. It's dishonest. Using old footage of the situation in the Mediterranean involving whole families fleeing imminent threat of death has nothing to do with the situation in the English Channel today where fit, healthy and well-off young men are coming to this country in search of adventure and improved economic circumstances. And condemning rich people for being rich is daft. Each one of these people provides a livelihood for literally thousands of others -from the pilots of their Lear jets down to the people who clean their offices. The politics of envy is a busted flush.
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  16. Geffo Me But the Guardian and the Independent do exactly the same thing!
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  17. Way off beam again. The testing system is woefully inaccurate and even dangerous. The "second" wave fits exactly with the Gomperz Curve of such epidemics when an initial surge of cases and deaths goes into a steep decline followed by a much smaller peak which then flattens out into a plateau before herd immunity is achieved. Half-arsed restriction measures do absolutely nothing to prevent or advance this. Nature is culling the old and the frail as it always does.
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  18. Ian Graves You're an idiot, and brainwashed too. I don't need Murdoch and Tory billionaires to tell me how to think. I look at Corbyn and his support for the IRA and anti-Israel terrorist groups. I see Labour conferences where the Union flag is scorned and the Palestinian flag is waved instead, I hear Corbyn outline his insane, suicidal pipe-dream policies and I see my country being led into a cesspit. I don't even READ mainstream newspapers and rarely watch mainstream TV. I scour the Internet, giving everyone a chance to convince me. If Socialism has convinced you then you are either incredibly naive or the victim of some weird guilt-complex.And also an idiot.
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  19. It continues to astonish me how today's so-called socialists continue to support American imperialism. You really are the running dogs of capitalism!
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  20. I'm afraid you're asking for your money back long, long after the expiry date. I am not responsible for the actions of my parents and grandparents. In any case my ancestors were up in the rigging of the slave ships and dying at much the same rate as the slaves in the holds. Either that or they were agricultural labourers living in conditions not dissimilar to those on sugar plantations. Just a few generations previously, under the feudal system, they would have been no different at all. It's time to put race behind us. Miscegenation not reparation is the answer, and it is one which will win through in the end. In the meantime let's stop harping on about the past and get on with trying to live together as human beings.
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  21. Fortunately the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Have large-scale gatherings resulted in increases in deaths and hospitalisations No. Will this one? No. It was a joy to see the 99% throwing off their shackles. While dour control-freak Lefties mourn the loss of this opportunity to restrict liberty, those of us who treasure freedom can get on with it. The disease has done its worst. Just look at the graphs. Just examine the statistics. Should the lives of healthy young people be ruined just to give the frail and elderly a few more months or weeks of life? No. Old farts like Ashton are the ones who are being selfish. If you are afraid of Covid lock yourself up somewhere. Take some hydroxychloroquine if you can get it. And shut up. Teacher, leave those kids alone.
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  22. What's up? For once I try to praise DDN and the comments have gone haywire. Honestly though although I generally find so, so much to disagree with here this lady is correct in everything she says -and she says it so very well. Socialism might even have a future with minds like hers at the forefront.
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  23. Dominic Cummings is way, way down in the pecking order. When I put on my tinfoil hat I see a virus which kills only the elderly and the unproductive, followed by a mandatory vaccine which ensures infertility in a selected proportion of the population. Great minds and great souls with vast wealth and resources are thus ensuring the future of mankind. We are indeed blessed.
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  24. So far sea levels aren't rising. ice-caps aren't melting and all temperature records prior to around 1970 have been dismissed as unreliable. Coronvirus clearly kills only the frail and the elderly or those subject to multiple re-infection. and the actual death and hospitalisation rate is minute. These seem to be observable facts. The conspiracy is the one which uses corrupt science to create a world of lies and to advance an agenda of globalisation and state control. And you can stick it where the sun don't shine.
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  25. Interesting choice of words. The "pale" was originally the fortifications set up outside English enclaves in Ireland. "Beyond the pale" meant you were a Paddy bogtrotter, not a member of the ruling, imperial class. The Tories are very much inside the pale. You are beyond it
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  26. Paul Downie They don't see anything. They're just doing what their left-wing loony teachers tell them.
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  27. I hate to be picky, but does it mention funds given to BLM or to ensure the elections of mayors and DA's in US cities where these officials have encouraged violent BLM and Antifa riots, and where these officials have freed rioters caught burning and looting? I only ask because I'd like to know.
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  28. Is turning the other cheek really an option for Israel at this point? Hamas is ultimately responsible for this suffering - both Israeli and Arab.
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  29. There is far more media hype in favour of the man-made climate change hypothesis than there is against it.
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  30. Simon Colbeck Are we living on the same planet? I don't read the Sun or the Mail and when I watch the BBC it seems so riddled with LEFT-WING bias that I find myself in support of the RIGHT-WINGERS calling for the licence fee to be abolished. UKIP called for this because of BBC bias. The right-wing populist channels I watch call for its abolition for this very reason. What has the BBC done to upset all you guys?
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  31. Wot?
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  32. An insane paranoid rant - but fun. Get real kid.
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  33.  @alanmarr3323  I once had a gardener who used to sit in the potting shed raving on in a similar manner. I had to sack him.
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  34.  @fredfredrickson5436  I don't know. I find it hard enough to identify the nature of problems. Coming up with solutions is something that doesn't sit that well with me. I suppose I would have to say national sovereignty seems the best way to combat globalism, or at least counteract its worst excesses. Small units of government, independent but interacting with each other as reasonably as possible is as good a way of conducting human affairs as any, it seems to me. As to imperialist expansion the time for that has probably come to an end, at least in the old meaning of the term. Today's empires are going to be financial rather than territorial, and achieved through manipulation rather than direct conquest. Soros is building his using reflexivity and bribery, and the Chinese are building theirs by buying real estate and infiltrating institutions like the UN. Competition without regulation is often dangerous, but it is difficult to see who will police the brave new world.
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  35. The NHS is not at breaking point. Covid 19 is no worse than many of the seasonal influenzas it has replaced. It is shameful that this illness is being used as a political weapon. The reality is that thousands of babies and young children in third world countries are dying of malnutrition due to worldwide economic downturn created by lockdown policies. In the UK the largest single group of people to die are those aged 90 and above. Less than 1,000 under the age of 45 have done so. Check the ONS website if you don't believe me. Teachers who refuse to teach children on the offchance that they will catch Covid are cowards. So are the health workers whose absenteeism is largely responsible for whatever pressures the NHS currently faces. Neither group is especially vulnerable . Proportionately, bus drivers and taxi drivers are more at risk of death or serious outcomes.
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  36. Yes, but what's WRONG with this? And where does the secrecy come in? This really is a total non-story.
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  37. MsimpK16 Has it ever occurred to you that climate change hysteria comes very much into the scenario you have outlined? Millions believe that the poles are melting when they are not or that islands are being drowned when they are not, or that reefs are dying when they are not. Compared with these huge lies currently being promoted for political ends tittle-tattle about Corbyn is neither here nor there.
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  38. He's setting about it in a funny way by killing off mainly old people who are beyond reproductive age and were due to die soon anyway. Of course there all these vaccines..... What a surprise it would be should it turn out that they make a certain proportion of the population sterile!
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  39. Another mixed bowl of fruit from Rambling John. The idea that it is any way acceptable for the government to condone and support a criminal enterprise has to be dismissed out of hand. The idea that the government is using it as a "distraction" is equally ludicrous. Farage has had to drag them out of their beds to get down to Dover and face this embarrassment. I'm sure they would very much have preferred to go on pretending it wasn't happening.
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  40. As a pensioner I am happy to be put at risk if this helps rescue the economy and speeds up herd immunity. After all, Covid 19 is just one of the things lining up to get me - and pretty low down on the list, what's more.
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  41. Their freedom?
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  42.  @VorosMedve  In terms of modern thinking perhaps. But the money was not compensation, it was simply a means by which the British government bought the slaves from their owners - and then freed them.
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  43.  @redlightmax  The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Which is not a society. A society is a small group of people who get together to share a common interest - such as model trains or knitting.
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  44.  @bravoalley228  The same applies but more so. The vast majority of those who have died have been way beyond an age to reproduce.
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  45. With all due respect, the refugees shown in the heartrending footage shot in the Mediterranean several years ago have little relation to the fit, healthy and 80% young male occupants of the rubber dinghies, who are of generally concealed origin and can afford to pay thousands of Euros to people-traffickers and have enough left over to buy a smartphone and expensive trainers. They might not, however, be rich enough to offer employment to others, as as do the evil billionaires you scorn so vehemently.
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  46. Whatever your politics you must agree that there is sufficient circumstantial evidence of substantial fraud in this election to warrant a full and independent judicial enquiry. Failure to do so will result is a cloud of doubt hanging forever over the Biden presidency. It must be done. At the very least failure to do so could very well result in a case being made for Americans to be legally justified in ignoring the edicts of a potentially illegal administration.
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  47.  @pdp977  Forty hours or so of sworn testimony, video recordings and statistical analysis presented to various state senate hearings in recent weeks? The differences between evidence, allegation and proof are many, subtle and varied. They can only be determined by judicial enquiry and this has not occurred.
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  48. Good try. But of course all governments behave this way when confronted by an unpredicted threat. Fortunately Britain still hasn't yet quite become crippled by a blame-shifting socialist bureaucracy. Viruses do not behave quite in the same way as radiation, do they? They evolve to survive and so stronger strains that kill their hosts die out while those which not kill survive and prosper, much like Covid 19's cousin the common cold. The figures have certainly been fudged - but upward rather than downward. The so called Covid-related deaths include Covid as one of three possible contributors. The contribution is often rather tenuous. If I were to become so incensed by the lying propaganda being put out by the media and burst into a TV studio and beat an offending journalist to death with an iron bar it could well be recorded as a coronavirus related death. Quite rightly in this instance.
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  49. You can fiddle with the details, but you cannot excuse the true horror of what happened.
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  50.  @Dellboy56  What reprisals? Israel is not taking reprisals. It is more than that.
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  51. Interesting too how Greta Thurnberg is controlled by hedge-funds. The organisation behind her, We Don't Have Time, is run by people withe purely financial backgrounds. Their plan is to control the issuing of carbon emission certificates on the cap and trade market and to make vast fortunes thereby.
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  52. Biden hasn't won yet - and even if he does it will have nothing to do with socialism or healthcare. If fact he WON'T win. It's just that Trump might lose. Which is rather a different thing.
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  53. In his book "The Alchemy of Finance" Soros decries both Fascism and Communism and all kinds of "isms". He is one of the most intelligent men in the world, but a failed philosopher who has instead utilised his brainpower and analytical abilities to make incredibly vast sums of money. He does this by sowing discord and reaping the consequences of it through financial manipulation. His strategies are beyond the ken of normal mortals, let along left-wing loonies who regard him as some kind of Marxist Santa Claus, but to imagine he does it just to be nice is a bit of a stretch. Why one of the most intelligent men in the world should invest money in making some of the most stupid people in the world mayors and district attorneys in the US is certainly puzzling at first sight,. but when we look at the anarchy this has engendered we might get some idea.
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  54. Garlic Breath Nice use of cliche. Well done.
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  55. KootFloris That is a very nice picture of a kingfisher next to your name. Do you like kingfishers? I had a parrot but it died. I'm going to get a new one soon though.
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  56.  @BrazenBull91  Sadly my lengthier replies keep getting deleted by YouTube's new fascist algorithm. Simply put, what we have here is a group of people who want to exterminate another group of people on largely religious grounds. These people don't want to be exterminated, and things have come to a point where they have little choice but to exterminate the first group first. That about covers it, I think.
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  57.  @GrahamA63  You've obviously got more common sense in your little finger than farty-chops left-wing looney Prof John Ashton has in his whole raddled old noggin.
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  58. Rupert Murdoch is, of course, the one shining exception to your last statement.
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  59. Astrid Maclean Then we are in agreement. Pity, I was quite looking forward to a bit of a row.
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  60. I am a right-wing conservative, but I agree with practically every word in this video. Capitalism married to war is an evil combination. We can only hope that the horrendous debacle currently taking place in Afghanistan will be more than enough grounds for divorce.
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  61.  @em945  Not very long then.
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  62. Geffo Me No they're not you idiot. The real "rocket scientists" hold the climatology department in utter contempt. So much so that in 2012 a while bunch of them, including former astronauts, petitioned the UN asking them not to take any notice of the wild predictions their brainwashed colleagues were making. NASA climate scientists tell lies for a living.
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  63. Anthony Cook We are not fucked, many of us are brainwashed though. Australian fires have got as bad as they are largely because Green policies in the huge national parks have led to traditional methods of fire control being abandoned. Air temperature doesn't enter into it. How can it? There is also the suspicion that arson by extremists trying to push the hysteria is to blame, but personally I find this hard to believe. Flooding in England is perfectly normal There is nothing exceptional here. Temperature charts are faked, New methods and new equipment invariably show hotter than old-style thermometers.This allows climate scientists to dismiss previous readings as "inaccurate". The old records often show temperatures far hotter than those of today. In Australia many people are puzzled because their porch thermometers show temperatures up to 10c below those they see on weather reports. Climate science is full of sheep who have to believe what they are told to believe. They are given pre-packed data and pre-programmed computer models to work on, so invariably reach the same results. Raw data is kept secret. Computer programs are under licence and technical details cannot be revealed. Why is all this going on? The answers are to be found in considerable financial gain and the exercise of totalitarian political control. Have you heard of the carbon futures market? That's just a start.
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  64. Koala bears BURNED TO DEATH in Australia!! By the thousand! Killed by Climate Change! Polar bears are dying because they are too tired from heat to catch seals and penguins.. Soon it will be squirrels. And marmosets. This is the Sixth Great Extinction! My friend Millie and I are going to tattoo the XR sign on each other's foreheads. It will hurt, but we need to make our protest PERMANENT!
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  65.  @Grouchy8108  Not all of them go armed, however.
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  66. The man you love to hate.
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  67.  @christophergray7330  You don't think he could possibly be fibbing do you? Perhaps he lives in a care home and comes from a morbidly obese family of Nigerian taxi drivers. I crave enlightenment, I really do.
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  68.  @jamesallen4050  The pursuit of truth? He was well enough to make the claim, he should be well enough to elaborate upon it.
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  69.  @fredatlas4396  The Left lies just as much, if not more, you know. Just judge by results.
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  70. Uk Gamer Islamaphobia is a funny word. I and many other people in this country find radical Islam utterly terrifying. That doesn't mean we dislike Muslims. Priti Patel is an excellent Home Secretary. I don't know what you mean about her hiding away during Trump's visit. I was referring to the Chancellor of the Exchequer Sajid Javid - another excellent member of the Government - and not to Sadiq Khan the Mayor of London, who is a ghastly little shit.
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  71. Uk Gamer I see your point and agree entirely. The trouble is that, apart from the very sensible fear of Islamic terrorism there is a real possibility that Muslims will stop being a minority before long. Birth rates and immigration are leading to a steady rise and some predict a Muslim majority by 2050. I don't see that myself but, with all due respect, I don't relish the prospect of your religion dominating my country at any time. Even without the terrorism aspect there is much about Islam that I and many others find distasteful - the attitude towards non-Muslim minorities, for example. Does this make us Islamaphobes? I think not, for it is not bigotry and blind hatred which motivates us, but a genuine fear for the cultural and political future of our homeland.
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  72.  @sadephillips9645  I haven't the faintest idea - and nor I suspect, does anyone else. A small proportion of victims suffer long term and permanent organ damage but whether reproductive organs are affected I just don't know.
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  73. Glory days! The battles won and the ungrateful bastards end up voting Tory! Good job there's so much of this terrible racism about to help keep the red flag flying.
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  74. Sadly, to quote Chris Packham - I cannot support this channel's motives, as noble as they may be. Nature does not love us. Communism, in whatever guise, invariably results in oppression. I have admired Packham and Attenborough both over the years but their espousal of these doctrines seems to me to go against the very nature of Darwinism. Quite frankly I do not see how it is possible to be both a socialist and to believe in the principle of the survival of the fittest.
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  75. Do the Palestinian authorities allow Palestinians to marry Jews?
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  76. A one-party state with perhaps a permanent dictator works a great deal more efficiently, don't you think?
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  77. You say "reclaim" but has it not always been like this? Has there even been a period in history when the wealthy and the powerful have not colluded to in this manner?
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  78. What was the question again?
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  79.  @saberint  I believe every word - and I speak as someone in his seventies. You've just got to stop being so sentimental. It destroys the power of reason.
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  80.  @lolwalters2936  The claims made in the many hours of testimony offered at various state senate hearings have NOT been examined in any judicial sense. They have merely been rebutted here and there by various interested parties. My point stands: you and they simply saying "Go away. Nothing to see here!" does not satisfy the genuine concerns of the millions of Americans who are entirely justified in thinking that perhaps there is something to see here. Something very nasty indeed. Until these doubts are overcome democracy in the US is a dead duck.
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  81. With the death to infection rate only a fraction of that in previous waves, herd immunity might actually be achieved within a matter of weeks. Thousands of people a day are becoming immune, and closing down the pathways of infection. I hold no brief for this government but they may actually have hit upon a solution - if only by accident.
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  82. Which one is which, in your view?
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  83.  @DrWrapperband  Tell you what, why don't we all kill ourselves now just to be on the safe side.? You go first.
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  84. I was going off Boris a bit but this blathering loon has made me think again.
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  85.  @BigHenFor  Bigot
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  86.  @RussCR5187  He isn't the Messiah. He's just a naughty boy sometimes. And he is as fit to hold public office as anyone. More than Biden who is just an old-school political hack and as corrupt as they come.
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  87. @Robin Sherwood Absolutely. He is a very dangerous man. I defy anyone to work out where he's coming from these days, but since all his early years were devoted to making money more or less for the fun of it I don't think that's changed much. Money is addictive, and so is fun! He is far too intelligent to be a Marxist. His support for extreme left wing causes must be part of some huge feedback loop strategy. He might want to end his time on earth having shorted the mighty dollar, but the trouble is as soon as you think of something he might be doing, you can be sure that's not it. When I put my tinfoil hat on I even see him manufacturing the entire global warming crisis in order to create a world currency of his own, based on carbon bonds. Trouble is, now I've thought of it, it can't be that either.
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  88.  @fredfredrickson5436  Two sentences. Two sillinesses. Well done.
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  89.  @fredfredrickson5436  A Marxists with a sense of humour! What a very rare thing. Is it allowed?
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  90.  @fredfredrickson5436  But Karl Marx wasn't. Did you know that?
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  91.  @fredfredrickson5436  I once wasted an otherwise pleasant month or so in Goa trying to wade my way through Das Kapital. I don't actually know anyone who's read it though. Do you? The Communist Manifesto is easy enough, but the trouble with Marx seems to be that he is so dreadfully dull and difficult that people are always trying to tell us he meant things that perhaps he didn't. I think people tend to confuse Marxism with the idea of being terribly nice to the working classes. From what I understand of it, it is something rather different to that. His analysis of history seems to leave out a great many important factors, which I suppose is the main reason Marxism fails so miserably when brought into practical application.
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  92.  @fredfredrickson5436  I gather all schoolchildren in modern Russia are required to read a cut-down version of Sollzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago. It is a practice which should be introduced in this country. The successes of the centrally planned economy depended upon the death and misery of millions. Your social safety net might owe something to Socialism, but nothing to Marxism. And Socialism itself has its roots in Christianity. Marxism is a busted flush. Only muddle-headed idealists or cynical opportunists can see any advantage to it.
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  93.  @fredfredrickson5436  The deliberate starvation and working to death of millions cannot be compared to the occasional errors of capitalism. Marxism and its centrally planned economy could only be sustained through slavery, corruption and terror. American prisoners are in prison because they have committed crimes, not because they have been arbitrarily selected or denounced. They live in conditions which would make citizens of the mid 20th century Soviet Union salivate with envy. Marxism corrupts Socialism, which is why until comparatively recently the British Labour Party forbad all relations with it. The fact that it now welcomes its various unwholesome manifestations into its midst is the reason for its constant rejection by the electorate. I disagree with Marx's critique because it is wrong, It fails on many levels, but predominately it fails because it does not take into account the fact that there are a great many utter bastards in the world, and the bastards will win whatever system is operational. Capitalism recognises this fact but imposes restraints on the worst excesses of the entrepreneurial psychopath through a system of financial regulation. Marxism refuses to admit differences in personality and insists we are all the same and equal and that our behaviour is governed by purely economic forces. They soon find out they are wrong when the psychopaths rise up through the ranks of the various committees and local soviets necessary to run their clumsy system and impose a regime of terror. It always happens this way and always will. Only societies which evolve through time survive and prosper. Those which attempt to impose a system thought up by some bloke with a beard and a pencil are doomed to fail. The only question is how long will it take and how many people will die in agony in the process.
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  94.  @fredfredrickson5436  Show me your pile of bodies. We can compare its height with those left by Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. Capitalist imperialism is exactly the strategy being followed by China right now. It has retained the repressive structure Communism needs to make a centralised state work and is busy colonising the world. It has its concentration camps too. There is no "late stage capitalism." There is just capitalism. Economic success certainly leads to imperialist expansion and it always has done. Once spears and chariots, guns and gunboats were needed. Now they are not, We have grown more sophisticated in our methods. This has led to the unlikely marriage we see today between Marxism and capitalism so typified by the Chinese phenomenon. Communism needs strict state control over individual behaviours in order to even begin to try to succeed. In China it has not succeeded but the control of the population has remained and is now being applied very successfully to the expansion of state capitalism. China's economic success is dependent upon the slavery of the proletariat. China's model is now actively being pursued by Western capitalism in the form of globalism, which requires centralised control and the subordination of the individual to a bureaucratic elite. Marx was quite correct in seeing labour as a form of capital, but he did not envisage how the administrators of his creed would be forced by economic realities to spend that capital. Marx was always wrong. Now he is both wrong and irredeemably old-fashioned. Your attachment to him is romantic and naive. This discussion began with George Soros. As I said, his gigantic intellect is beyond the comprehension of lesser mortals but it provides a rich territory for speculation. It seems to me that what he is doing is very similar to what China is doing, Based upon the principles of reflexivity he influences outcomes by acting in several roles, one of which is the infiltration of political structures and ideological movements and using them to pave the way for the expansion of his strategies. China builds roads. Soros builds BLM and puts puppets in charge of US and Canadian cities. China and Soros are both utilising Marxism, but neither is Marxist.
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  95.  @fredfredrickson5436  What was the question again?
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  96.  @fredfredrickson5436  The sovereign right of a nation to govern its own affairs,
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  97.  @fredfredrickson5436  Not sure I understand you. I see globalisation as an effort to subsume national identities, and over-rule the will and interests of individual nations by a process of homogenisation. National sovereignty must be a casualty of that process.
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  98.  @armand9404  Exactly so. There is every chance that this virus will mutate into something close to its near relative, the common cold.
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  99.  @stephencapel5630  In fact until November the number of under 45s deaths was around 700. I admit I guesstimated the extra 300 but I doubt it will be any more. The numbers game is pretty distasteful. There are as many people trying to make this look worse than it is as there are trying to minimise it. I suppose it has something to do with a psychological mindset. The fact is that when the novel coronavirus hit in Spring it hit hard - simply because it was novel and immune systems were ill prepared to deal with it. Since then it has done what many epidemiologists predicted it would and become a seasonal respiratory infection. If there is any surprise at all is that it has more or less replaced influenzas. But none of this really affects my original point. If we are citizens of the world we must act as such. In terms of years of meaningful life lost Covid is a babe in arms. There is no comparison with HIV or many earlier influenzas. The Hong Kong flu of 68/69 killed well over 40,000 in the UK, very many of them children and young people. There were no lockdowns or anything like that; just simple precautions and we got on with life until it went away. Which it did. That's what we should be doing now instead of acting like cowards who think they somehow have the right to live forever.
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  100.  @stephencapel5630  There is no evidence that the long term effects from Covid 19 are any worse or more common than is the case with many influenzas. Some immune systems over-react to some pathogens and this is something which is constantly being researched. Life's tough, but that's no reason to huddle under the duvet with your thumb in your mouth. (Actually there WERE lockdowns during plagues. The very word "quarantine" comes from old Italian for the 14 days ships' crews had to stay aboard when arriving at port during such times.) Surely the fact that health systems have improved since 1969 should mean there is less need for lockdowns than more? As for living forever I do sometimes think that death is regarded as an abuse of human rights by a certain class of people.
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  101.  @ClarkyGuitar  Okay I get you. The fact that it's a covid not an influenza has certainly and understandably caused concern. The fact that it arrived in the Spring and created such havoc certainly put it into another category. The point I'm making is that we now know what it is being insanely afraid of it is, in my view, entirely counterproductive. The lockdowns are causing far, far more damage nationally and internationally than the disease itself. A lot is going to depend on the behaviour of the new variant which is, incidentally, only the latest of a dozen or so - all of which have tended towards being more infectious but seemingly less harmful. If this variant follows that trend then it really will be time to take down the shutters and throw away our masks. We should know by the end of February.
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  102.  Praxis Alba  I rebut the extent of global warming and the extent of humankind's role in producing it -as do a great many others. I do not rebut Covid 19 but the facts are as I have stated them. You can continual in a state of denial as long as you wish, but it won't alter the facts as they exist.
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  103. michael welby Distinct signs of paranoia I think. The oligarchs will be crawling out of the walls soon.
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  104. Coming across CNN gives me the same reaction. Oh - and the BBC and Sky News quite often.
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  105. No, that's Hamas.
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  106. Astrid Maclean Britain's educational institutions, especially teacher training colleges and universities, are hotbeds of socialist propaganda. Apart from London the majority of Labour supporting areas were university towns. I only hope that some time over the next ten years this Conservative government will be able to restore the balance.
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  107. BigHenFor Where did you learn all that bollocks? Not in the real world I bet.
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  108. James D Robertson Oxford and Cambridge both bucked the national trend at the General Election and returned their sitting Labour MPs. I did say "socialist propaganda" not "socialist thought", by the way. I was going to shout "Oxymoron!" at this point, but that would be a little unkind.
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  109. James D Robertson You obviously graduated from the University of Call Everything I Don't Like Fascist, A relentlessly easy trope if there ever was one.
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  110. James D Robertson All the best for the coming New Era, Jim Seasons Gloatings from all at Number Ten
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  111. James D Robertson Eat my shorts.
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  112. Absolutely. They are missing a political opportunity too.
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  113. I don't think it has been deleted, merely re-uploaded.
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  114. I don't think they had to -they just did. I commented on yesterday's upload and it is still there.
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  115.  @roycropper698  But this ancient! I have just revisited the ONS site and the figure is 51,264. That is all deaths in all locations where Covid 19 was mentioned on the death certificate. I ask again, where does this 70,000 number come from?
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  116.  @Paul-eb2cl  And the source of this? It is just a completely made up figure, isn't it? The official figures include all such eventualities.
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  117.    How dare you include maggot Macron in such exalted company?
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  118.  @DevonMcFarlane  Disparity yes - but for all sorts of sociological reasons. None of this presents evidence of deliberate systemic racism. Indeed, every effort seems to be being made to redress these inbalances by positive discrimination.
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  119. Any idea how far back these records go?
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  120. Geffo Me You've been sold a gold brick my friend. Climate scientists aren't real scientists. If they were the raw data they use and the computer programs and models they employ would be available for independent verification. But they're not. If they were real scientists they wouldn't have to remove and alter data to fit the AGW narrative. But they do. If they were real scientists they would get out of the lab more often. They could try to get to the north pole on an icebreaker say. But they can't because the ice is so thick this winter that even the biggest toughest icebreakers can hardly move, The Odin, Sweden's largest icebreaker is currently making less that three knots. They might take a trip to the Marshall Islands which are supposed to have gone under the waves for the past twenty years but are still miraculously there. The list goes on and on. You may or not be nuts, but you are certainly very gullible and very, very stupid.
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  121. Geffo Me Hullo! Hullo! Anyone home? What windmills? You mean those fucking great monstrosities that despoil the countryside, kill birds, are made of plastic in foreign countries and have steel and concrete foundations the size of city blocks? The ones that come into operation with a carbon bill then can never hope to repay? Or was it the windmills of you mind you were referring to? LOL Man you are STUPID!
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  122. Why wouldn't Trump want to see this video? Asking for a friend.
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  123. Stephen Paul We are playing fantasy here, but a referendum would have almost certainly been called and with the same result. The UKIP MPs would have seen Brexit through The German position is entirely different. The EU is their construct and other nations are their vassals. Does the AfD demand an end to the EU or Germany's withdrawal by the way? I only ask because I simply do not know.
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  124.  @MrRishik123  You seem to be missing the essential point. The huge amount of money spent by the British government was not intended as compensation to the slaves for their suffering, but simply as a purchase price given to their owners. We literally bought their freedom. And yes, it took this wonderful country of ours up until 2015 to pay off the money spent. What you must sit back and ask yourself what we got for it.
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  125. Absolutely correct in many respects. The fake picture of a walrus falling off a cliff to illustrate the evils of climate change was a particularly good example of spectacle elbowing reality to one side.
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  126.  @RussCR5187  A couple of things: There is considerable literature disputing the efficacy of any safety measures in preventing the spread of Covid 19 which is, as I said, is following the established pattern for viral infections as I described. I can provide you with such information if you wish. Mathematical models indicate that if the R number reaches and stays at 1.4 a 30% infection level will be arrived at quite rapidly in the UK at which point herd immunity will be achieved. Once again I can provide you with the necessary technical information. You are woefully behind with information about hydroxychloroquine. The article you cite was of course published in May at a time when the drug was under attack by pharmaceutical companies as it provides an incredibly cheap alternative to their profitable products. President Trump's endorsement also led to fierce political opposition. Tests were carried out using absurdly huge doses given to patients in the last stages of the disease which led to the widely publicised disinformation you are still sadly not yet disabused of. The tests were shown to be fake and articles about them were withdrawn. The Lancet was especially hard hit and its reputation may never recover from the scandal. Proper studies have clearly shown that small doses administered in the early stages of the disease can reduce death rates by at least one third. In this instance I will provide you with some information which may help you catch up with the present position. Dr Campbell does daily updates on the pandemic. He believed the vilification campaign too but here fully admits that hydroxychloroquine is effective, based on his detailed analysis of a recent study involving some 8,000 patients in Belgium. There are links to that and other studies in the description below the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBn4e69tGlg This is a rather excitable news video from Australia but it sums up the story neatly and accurately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXmwt_8tdNY This is list of the100 or so recently published studies, most peer-reviewed, which indicate the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine when properly administered. https://c19study.com/
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  127. You wouldn't be talking about ISIS, Hamas and the Mullahs, would you?
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  128.  @Fload.Ritlhe  But Zionism is secular.
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  129. Stewart Jennings A truly spontaneous expression of the justifiable anger of the proletariat! Support the movement! Go to Say No to Racism for details of future events and locations where you can pick up your placard and expenses form.
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  130. Stewart Jennings It seems Koch brothers algorithm pirates are deliberately misdirecting traffic to the SNTR site. The comrades at Momentum will direct you to your nearest pick-up point. momentumgim.co.uk/en
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  131. Stewart Jennings It is indeed. Who knows where might all be in five years time?
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  132. I am truly shocked. Was there a common factor? Personal losses on this scale are unusual except in groups of the elderly, or families with a genetic disorder.
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  133. Dawn raids?
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  134.  @adamdin6243  The difficulty is that many people believe that AGW is either a complete con trick- or vastly exaggerated - with the same certainty as those who are convinced it means the end of the world.
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  135.  @adamdin6243  Similar doubts should be addressed to some of the precepts of AGW in my view. The initial conclusions based on proxy data drawn from ice core samples have now been overthrown and the 19th century experiments which indicate increased surface temperatures occurring in proportion to the amount of carbon in the atmosphere bear considerable re-examination. They have stood up to many years of verification in the laboratory, but it is entirely possible that factors at play in the real atmosphere alter their conclusions.
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  136.  @ChrisPage68  No it isn't.
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  137. No comparison.
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  138. ​ @corvus1238  Why should I feel sorry for people who can afford to pay gangsters thousands of pounds to smuggle them half-way around the world and still have enough left over for a smartphone and a pair of £200 trainers? There are very many worthier objects of compassion in the world. Very many indeed.
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  139.  @mattgreek1066  I don't think you get this. These poor refugees pay money to people-traffickers. And they still have enough money for phones and quality clothing.Where's the joke?
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  140.  @mattgreek1066  Thank you for your considered analysis of the situation and detailed point-by-point response.
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  141.  @Lee_303  Not so. I'm only 71, but I stand by what I said. Your attitude towards death changes the closer it approaches, it seems.
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  142.  @downonthestour  With all due respect to your grandmother the economy is more important than she is. Furthermore, the chances of her dying as a direct result of Covid 19 are extremely slim. How slim we cannot know since the figures are being fudged so extensively. I guess my attitude isn't bad at all - it seems rather public-spirited actually.
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  143. Alan Hill Sounds like an obituary. I would have taken my hat off if I was wearing one.
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  144.  @ljt3084  She cut through contemporary misconceptions with the cutting edge of reason is the simplest answer, I suppose. Communities and society are just buzzwords to aid the practice of sociology. They really don't exist in any real sense, unless artificially generated for some political purpose. The family and the nation are the only real and unalienable divisions into which people may be placed. All divisions in between are artificial, fragile and usually meaningless.
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  145. By these definitions there is no political figure more reviled by the media and the establishment than President Donald Trump. Why should that be, one wonders?
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  146. How are they accountable?
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  147. These people all seem young and healthy. Unless suffering from an underlying condition in the unlikely event of contracting the virus they should endure two or three days of severe discomfort at the very most. In the meantime they are going to work and setting about the business of restoring the economy. An encouraging sight.
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  148.  @t.n.3819  Which medical journal? Medical opinion is deeply divided. The Swedish response was based on sound expert medical advice and seems to be doing well. Our response was based on the work of computer modellers and made even dafter by the rabble-rousing press and hysterical politicians. It's a fuck-up. Look at the numbers. Even if the figures are accurate (and there is good reason to believe they have been grossly exaggerated) then the total number of deaths is such a small percentage of the population as to be statistically negligible. It's the equivalent of a bad couple of days on the Somme. The difference is that then the dead were all healthy young men with much to contribute to society. The vast majority of coronavirus deaths are among the elderly whose useful lives are over and who would have died soon anyway. The only other categories are people with existing medical conditions or those - such as health-care workers - who are subject to repeated infections to such a degree that their antibodies can't cope. The only way to come to terms with this thing is to let it run its course while ensuring that those who are most at risk are properly protected. In a short period of time the coronavirus will become like its close relative the common cold - a regular nuisance but nothing to panic about. You're right in that deaths are inevitable, but death is like that.
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  149.  @ianstrange5674  Who said their lives mean nothing? They seem to mean little to the Government who instead of ensuring they were especially protected issued an insane blanket shutdown order.
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  150.  @L_Martin  The number is still tiny. Find out the population of the UK and work out the percentage of people who have died. As to the situation in hospitals, can you explain why the new facilities, such as the Nightingale Hospital, are closing due to lack of patients? There is no surgical procedure to treat covid-19 as far as I am aware and so pressure on theatre time must be due to cancer patients and those with other illnesses whose condition has been made suddenly worse by contracting the illness. Sweden and South Korea are getting this right. We are not. The knee-jerk reaction leading to lock-down can only do more harm than good in the long run. I'm in my seventies and not much good with a mop and bucket; even so I mould be reluctant to work on a covid ward since under the present system I would be subject to the danger of multiple re-infection which, apart from taking advantage of existing frailties, is seemingly the only way the virus can overcome our antibody responses sufficiently to kill us.
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  151.  @t.n.3819  For a start I wouldn't believe the BBC if it told me what day of the week it was. But leaving the whole question of how the figures have been manipulated to one side, your analogy is a false one. If you have unprotected sex you might get HIV if you are unlucky, if you share needles you almost certainly will. If you get on a crowded bus the chances that you will get covid-19 are not that high and the chances that you will get it badly enough to kill you are practically nil - unless you are elderly or have a pre-existing condition. The thousands of deaths that could have been prevented are not those caused by travelling on a crowded bus. They are those caused by the Government failing to isolate vulnerable people - the frail and the elderly - and by not realising that prolonged and repeated exposure - such as that experienced by health care workers - may overcome the immune systems of even the most healthy. By the way, if you spend your life listening to "experts" trotted out by the Government and the lamestream media you are going to get seriously fucked.
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  152.  @saxglend9439  Exactly! Hate and despise you because you're common and don't realise how wonderfully kind and understanding they are!
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  153. Adam God, you're a miserable bastard! Cheer up, it might never happen!
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  154. Paul Blackburn I don't think the workers are either.
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  155. Arcarsenal We all do it. Prediction is very difficult, especially when it involves the future. Sorry you were upset. Try not to be. Johnson has laid out his strategy and if it fails then a newly-constructed Labour party will be able to push the Tories to one side and try again. If he succeeds however... Lets just cross that bridge when we come to it!
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  156. BLM is a protection racket with over 80per cent of the money it gets going straight to the Democrat Party. There's a hell of a lot hanging on the results of the November election. If Biden wins BLM will want its due reward - and that will mean anarchy.
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  157. Ah, happy days! You're quite right of course, but the British, like the Mob, have gone legit now - more or less.
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  158.  alex kennedy  Soros isn't a socialist. He just pretends to be one in order to further his schemes of manipulation. He has realised that lefties aren't very clever and will do anything you want as long as you make them feel good about themselves.
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  159.  @eduardocajias5626  How very kind. There is no reason why people who disagree with one another should not try to be civil.
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  160. If he was going for herd immunity he certainly set about it the wrong way.
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  161.  @commonsense9176  It hasn't happened though. All his actions have actually held up herd immunity - which would probably be here by now if nothing had been done.
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  162.  @commonsense9176  Are you suggesting that people are not becoming eligible day by day to replace those who have died?
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  163.  @curtisalex456  I do it for love. And respect for the truth.
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  164. We don't.
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  165.  @ceales3  Writers and entertainers are generally of a different temperament. I've heard it said that the fall of Rome came at a time when actors and sportsmen were especially revered - chariot drivers and celebrity chefs were widely consulted on political matters.
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  166.  @nakedmolerat437  It's not nobility. They need people to work for them.Poor people need someone to work for. Seems a good arrangement - and one which has been effective for thousands of years.
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  167.  @corvus1238  The dinghies don't leak. Your argument does. It is customers who provide wealth, as is the case here with these young hopefuls paying 5,000 euros for a seat on a dinghy which is escorted out of French waters by the French Navy and thereafter its occupants are taken safely ashore by the UK Border Service.The workers are the employees of the people traffickers who are paid to arrange things. They are a drain on profit, not a contribution toward it. The dinghies and their motors are entirely seaworthy, since drownings would be bad for business.
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  168.  @nakedmolerat437  Your point being?
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  169. ​ @ThatsMe1010  Perpetual whingeing won't help.
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  170. Politics makes strange bedfellows. Right-wing US YouTuber Mark Dice has just putout a video making broadly similar points. Worth watching.
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  171.  @MartintheTinman  Any time.
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  172.  @ChrisPage68  No. It was a charming fantasy, no more.
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  173. Isn't that called a General Election?
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  174.  @AWhileHanlin  Ashton's argument? Precisely.
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  175.  Praxis Alba  I'd rather people have fun, but work is often a grim necessity. I simply don't understand why you paranoid control-freak Lefties suddenly won't believe my age. What part of your group psychosis is it that will not process this entirely mundane piece of information? I have obviously escaped the brainwashing that has you in its grip, and that's because I left school long before it was insidiously introduced. I know my chances of de-programming any of you are pretty slim, but it amuses me to try.
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  176.  Praxis Alba  What a nasty piece of work you are. You simply cannot seem to believe that I am simply someone who disagrees with you. Instead I must be some "troll" who must be criminalised for daring to challenge your conditioning. I wonder which countries you are referring to, by the way? All countries have been affected differently by this disease, and have responded in different ways too. The number of factors involved makes it impossible to extrapolate any definite conclusions as to which has done best. I see no reason whatsoever why the UK should not immediately lift all restrictions and return to normality as quickly as possible.
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  177.  @fritanke2318  What do you mean "links"? Just Google state senate hearings electoral fraud and you will have access to hour upon hour of testimony from Georgia, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona and Pennsylvania. This is straight coverage of process with no cuts or slants. Just have a skim and it won't be long before you find something that ought to make your ears prick up. Election officials admitting that procedures are not followed. Military computer experts explaining how voting machines are tampered with. Observers saying how they were abused and prevented from carrying out their duties. The list goes on and on. There is simply too much of it to ignore.
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  178.  @TheMarsCydonia  The claims have NOT been examined. Judges - probably very sensibly - have found technical reasons not to allow cases to proceed. It would be impossible in any case for any fair and detailed hearings to take place in less than many months. Trump and his teams know this and cases have been filed merely to fit a legal requirement. If justice is done and some form of tribunal IS set up (as it very much ought to be) then Trump's lawyers will simply be able to point to the fact that they tried to make the case at the earliest opportunity. In the meantime Trump and his team are now merely trying to persuade state legislatures to question the veracity of their elections in the forlorn hope that something can be done before Jan 6. It won't be of course but Republican senators (some 14 so far) have indicated that they will not recognise the Biden presidency unless a full judicial enquiry into the election process is promised.
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  179.  @ricos1497  You are right of course. Democracy in the US is an utter sham and all elections are rigged to some degree or another. I would suggest however that this one is a real doozie. The Dems have gone too far and have been rather clumsy. The sheer amount of fake ballots cast and the delight with which they have proved that voting machines are just devices designed to allow fraud to take place will hopefully prove their undoing in the long run. I find it interesting that you seem to assume that voters in minority communities are inevitably going to vote Democrat, and that Republicans therefore seek to prevent them from voting. This can no longer be assumed. Black and brown people have provided voting fodder for the Democrats for far too long. They are starting to realise where their true interests lie and herding them back onto the plantation isn't going to work for much longer. It seems to me probable (if may prejudge the issue) that in this case the cracks were beginning to show by the end of election day and that plan B was brought into operation in the early hours with a concerted flooding of false and repeat votes taking place at this point. As I say, this can only be resolved by a detailed judicial enquiry. If the Biden administration fails to condone such, then it will be forever condemned by its its reluctance to do so.
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  180.  @lolwalters2936  I'm sorry to keep hammering on but there are literally hours and hours of evidence -or allegation if you prefer - readily available from the state senate hearing that have taken place in recent weeks. A simple Google search will give you access to the full hearings. Whatever this may add up to it is certainly a great deal more than zero.
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  181.  @Waltzhybrid92  If your judgement (?) is going to be based on your assessment of character then Biden surely fails the test far more than Trump. If Trump is a crook then he is merely a small-timer as all property developers on his scale have to be - considering who runs the unions and the cement industry. Joe Biden on the other hand is a war criminal who has spent almost half a century abusing public office for personal profit and whose final achievement seems likely to be to allow himself to become the front man for the CCP's schemes to incorporate the US in its strategy for world domination.
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  182.  @TheMarsCydonia  No. It speaks to the reluctance of judges to examine it. If I was a judge I wouldn't touch it with asbestos gloves on. It has not been examined. If it has where is the result of that examination? When did it take place? (A court saying it is not going to look at something is not the same as looking at it.) And what is your interpretation then of the various statements made by Republican senators, headed I gather by Ted Cruz? Trump will be gone in a few weeks, but he is going to leave a deep pile of shit for President Harris to deal with. And I return to my original point. The new administration MUST give full answer to these claims and it can only do so following detailed judicial process. Unless of course we are already operating under CCP rules.
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  183.  @ricos1497  Nothing has been thrown out by any courts. Courts have merely declined to take on the cases. There has been no examination. No detailed presentation of evidence or rebuttal thereof has been permitted. And it is that which is the point. The considerable circumstantial evidence of illegal voting and the deliberate use of electronic machines to alter counts has been ignored. Why, in the latest Georgia hearing an expert witness claimed that he and his team had hacked into a Dominion machine AT THAT VERY MOMENT while votes were being cast. The manual actually tells you how to do it. Accusations like this cannot simply be allowed to hang in the air. A mere denial is not enough. A "fact check" by a prejudiced source is not enough. The literally hundreds of allegations of electoral malpractice simply have to be answered by a due process of law. Failure to do so can only be construed as clear evidence of guilt. And just because poor and ethnic minority voters can no longer be relied upon to vote Democrat, and may instead to choose to support initiatives designed to help them better themselves is a pretty poor excuse for replacing them with computer software.
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  184.  @lolwalters2936  None of the allegations has been "explored". Courts have merely declined to hear cases on the very sensible grounds that to so would be very dangerous to the future prospects of the judges concerned, among other things. Saying something just ain't so is not enough. Offers of proof of allegation have been made - and in considerable detail. Those making the allegations have been questioned by state senators but no court has been willing to hear cases in detail and to pass judgement upon them. The accusations are alive and kicking and won't die on their own. Those making them must be answered or sued for perjury and defamation. This is not going to go away. It has the potential to become one of the greatest scandals in American history.
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  185.  @TheMarsCydonia  That is just silly. So far there have been no answers. If the allegations - or at the very least a fair cross-section of them - are brought before a court and found to be false by due judicial process then so be it. Those making the false allegations deserve to be punished. It is a test of a civilised society that allegations of wrongdoing must be properly refuted and that failure to do so leaves it very much open for those accusations to be true.
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  186.  @mattgreek1066  Hi Matt! How's the therapy going?
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  187.  @stevemak8620  No-one wins here. In the end everyone has cause for sadness.
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  188.  @TheMarsCydonia  The essential difference of course is that there was a lengthy and expensive investigation into the Russiagate allegations against Trump. Surely time and money should be spent on investigations into the far, far more substantial allegations of fraud and malpractice levelled against the Biden campaign in this election?
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  189.  @ricos1497  Sez you. But things are at the stage now when mere opinion is not enough. The numbers are not adding up. I'm no mathematician but people who are come to some pretty thought-provoking conclusions. They, and the humble observers with tales of intimidation need answering. The videos of election workers apparently passing ballots though machines time and time again or apparently palming thumb drives and smuggling them away need explanation. All this and much, much more is generally being withheld from the American public by a media cabal which seems up to is own neck in a conspiracy to circumvent democracy and place a puppet it the White House who probably owes vast debts to the various sinister forces who helped put him there. This will become clear to large numbers of Americans, if it is not clear already, and the only likely alternative to judicially sanctioned transparency will be violent, bloody revolution.
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  190.  @TheMarsCydonia  Your logic (if such it can be called) is somewhat twisted I think. Trump was accused of colluding with Russia to help him win the election. No evidence was found for this. In law the fact that the investigation found no case to answer does, indeed, prove that Trump was innocent. That's how it works. As I explained, the cases brought by the Trump team and others in local courts were brought with no real hope of success, and indeed with the expectation of merely testing the water at best. The exchange you posted between the Trump lawyer and the Michigan judge clearly illustrates this. The lawyer gave the judge good excuses to decline to hear the case and so avoid a dangerous situation for all concerned. I'm sure His Honour was very grateful and the Trump lawyers could surely see no point in instigating a lengthy legal procedure which could in no way reach a conclusion by the time of the Electoral College vote and which would in any case be liable to appeal. It is not a question of the judge being crooked. He is just being pragmatic - as indeed is the lawyer. The situation remains that absolutely no-one - not the state legislatures nor SCOTUS - are prepared to do anything which might allow Trump to win. No-one wants to reap the whirlwind. Unless he really is a brilliant three-dimensional chess player with a series of masterly strokes in reserve Trump will have to give up the Presidency, and he know it. But that of course is just the beginning. Trump probably didn't cheat all that much - and look what happened to him! On the other hand it very much seems as though Biden cheated like hell and this, combined with the alliances he has made with the likes of Antifa, BLM the Chinese Communist Party and George Soros are going to lead to a very volatile and unpredictable situation for America. I think it unlikely that it will be possible to avoid bloodshed.
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  191.  @TheMarsCydonia  You still seem to be missing the point. The case against Trump was the result of a lengthy professional investigation which turned out to have been based in large part on manufactured evidence from a single source ( Steele). It failed. The case against Biden is based upon numerous allegations from various individuals and the authorities have thusfar failed to investigate them. The evidence is there but it has not been investigated. I have, for instance, just watched a video which appears to show Trump's vote actually DROPPING quite substantially at various junctures. Votes which had been recorded for him were quite suddenly taken away. How can this be so? Is it so? Are the analysts who have produced this evidence mistaken or lying? We need to know. And I never said the judge you quoted was crooked. He was just being sensible. Equally well the representatives of the various agencies you mention are also being sensible. It would be a bad career move for anyone to stand up to the Biden crew at this point. Barr is a glaring example of this. Your view of the situation seems overly simplistic. I repeat: the allegations have neither been proved or disproved because no court has had the courage - or folly - to consider them properly - or any investigative agency the instruction to investigate them. And thus they remain hanging in the air and are far more varied and substantial that vague stories about Trump people meeting with Putin people in hotel rooms. If someone can explain how more than 400,000 votes disappeared from Trump's totals in Pennsylvania, then that is just one anomaly to be ticked off. Others spring up to take its place. Even now in Georgia Republican observers are being denied the legal right to observe signature verifications. Why? As to your remark on the final part of my last comment I'm afraid you may be LOLLING on the other side of your face before long. America is a disaster waiting to happen at the moment.
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  192.  @TheMarsCydonia  You can't find something if you don't look for it. Whether or not you believe it exists doesn't enter into it. A thing either exists or it does not. In this instance there are overwhelming indications that fraud has taken place - both from anecdotal evidence from people who observed it on the ground and from statistical analysis of the pattern of the results. There was motive and opportunity. There has been a cynical attempt to circumvent the democratic process engineered by extremists who have infiltrated the Democrat party. Dominion voting systems' HQ was, until very recently in a building in Toronto which housed various extreme left-wing pressure groups financed by George Soros. Ballot manipulation by computer has been added on to more traditional methods of electoral fraud to make the democratic process in the United States no more than a meaningless charade. Think about that. Republican or Democrat you owe it to your country to prevent the reins of power being removed from the people and placed in the hands of tyrants. Cruz has called for an immediate audit. Very many people are descending upon Washington at this very moment to scream very loudly that the election was stolen. Their claims MUST be thoroughly investigated, and not just dismissed out of hand. (Incidentally, believing people who hold opposing views to be insane is a sign of intellectual weakness. In the Soviet Union you were put away in an asylum if you denied the precepts of Marxism.)
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  193.  @ricos1497  Even if not fraud then electoral malpractice to such a degree as to make the elections unlawful. And there was fraud. Lots of it. The Democrat party has been taken over by Marxists who ironically despise democracy. And you poor sweet, trusting souls -you useful idiots in Stalin's words - don't even know it.
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  194.  @ricos1497  What interesting and perceptive questions! I'm so glad to meet such honesty, really I am. I was particularly pleased with your comments about business as usual "green" policies to get the useful idiots on board. Instilling the troops with a sense of virtue is so important to group discipline. If you can't invoke patriotism, making them think about rainforests and naughty, naughty carbon will bring the appropriate tears to the corners of their eyes. What am I doing here? I suppose I'm just out for an argument as much as anything. I despise Marxism on a great many levels and while I admit it is extremely unlikely that I would ever be able to make an intelligent Marxist see the error of their ways it can be fun having a try. Equally well, since most of the occupants of the comments sections of channels such as this appear to be brain-damaged juveniles it is entertaining to taunt and enrage them. I may even be able to sow seeds of doubt in some cases. Does this make me a troll? I am unsure of the definition, but since I believe in everything I say this cannot surely be the case. Mine is more of a missionary position.
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  195.  @TheMarsCydonia  Think nothing of it. I'm not quite sure how I managed to do it, but as long as you're happy that's OK by me.
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  196.  @TheMarsCydonia  I think this must be something like a self-fulfilling prophecy. It gives a whole new dimension to the concept of circular thinking.
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  197.  @TheMarsCydonia  I do struggle sometimes. Our conversation has put me very much in mind of that excellent book "The Alchemy of Finance" by George Soros, with particular regard to his development of the concept of reflexivity. Are you familiar with it? Your technique of disputation, such as it is, mirrors some of the diagrammatic explanations with uncanny exactitude.
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  198.  @TheMarsCydonia  You seem to be becoming increasingly juvenile. I am rather disappointed.
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  199.  @TheMarsCydonia  George Soros is one of the most intelligent men ever to have lived. I say this in all honesty. Perhaps I did bring him into the conversation to tease a little, but the comparison I made was quite genuine. His ideas on the way people think and how those processes can be manipulated are very insightful. According to reflexivity you and I are both stuck in a perpetual feedback loop at the moment. We know what each other thinks, and we know why they think it. There is little hope of meaningful progress unless the loop is broken. One of several ways to achieve this is the input of new information. I assume you to be left-leaning, though to what degree I cannot tell, and it struck me that it would be both pertinent and useful if you were to have some understanding of Soros' work. That's all.
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  200. Quite right. Democracy in the US has been a tottering invalid for decades. It is now dead, killed in November by a massive fraud carried out by people calling themselves Democrats. The irony!
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  201. Plant Fuelled A repressive Stalinist bureaucratic dictatorship in other words? Oh no though. PR would mean Tommy Robinson could form his own party and get a couple of seats in the House of Commons. I'm warming to the idea. By the way, it may have slipped your notice but Tony Blair has already reformed the House of Lords He replaced most of the hereditary peers with arse-lickers who couldn't get elected in the Commons. The Tories have been forced to follow suit to match the numbers. It was better in the old days really.
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  202. Plant Fuelled Ah! How much simpler it would be if we could vote purely on a candidate's hairstyle or beard! I welcome the day. To hell with political judgement and suchlike nonsense. Proprep will give us a full array of everything from plaits to a full Jehovah! What could possibly go wrong?
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  203. Plant Fuelled We could do it according to who tells the best jokes. How does that sound? Everyone from Bernard Manning to Russell Howard.
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  204. The oligarchs (whoever they are) don't need fake news to undermine socialism. We "poor people", as you toffee-nosed Commies call us, know our lives will be richer and safer when we are ruled by people who know what they're doing, rather than by a bunch of half-arsed intellectuals with grandiose ideas.
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  205. Why this constant obsession with infections when it is the rate of infections to death and serious outcomes which is important?
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  206. @Yevi N. You're no fun, are you? Covid is an airborne respiratory pathogen and has much in common with influenzas and colds. It is indeed probable that the components of the common cold were as severe as SARS-Cov 2 when they first arrived but then adapted and evolved into their present less virulent forms. With the help of vaccines Covid 19 is being kicked along the same route.
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  207. @Yevi N. WE cannot comprehend it fully, but we can take an educated guess as to its place on the list of the horrors which afflict us. Pretty far down, really.
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  208. The opportunity has been lost. There are a very large number of ordinary working people - potential Labour supporters - who bitterly resent the way lockdowns have impacted on their lives. There is also a considerable body of informed scientific opinion which says that lockdowns do very little good and may even be harmful. Instead of taking this view on board Labour has joined the Tories in an hysterical and ill-judged over-reaction to the pandemic. I find this incomprehensible.
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  209. Pomposity too.
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  210.  @amayastrata4629  Yes. I was selecting the most up-to-date figures available. You have made my point exactly. They clearly show that not only have Covid 19 deaths reduced dramatically (which we already know) but would seem to imply the possibility that it is running out of victims. Ie. all those extra deaths in the figures you provide were due to happen in July , August and September but they can't because they have happened already.
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  211. The flaw in your comparison is that unlike the majority of those who have died with covid, those soldiers and blitz victims would have expected many years of useful life had it not been for the war. In terms of years of meaningful life lost covid is still way behind several influenzas. This is not to say of course that this ramshackle excuse for a government has not made a disgraceful mess of dealing with the epidemic.
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  212.  @clivethomas6864  And I am sure that a great many weren't expecting to. People have to die sometime and unless you are particularly miserable and ill, you will want that day to be as far off as possible - but having said that most of the people who have died would have died soon anyway -covid or not and they will have known it.. Those few weeks or months extra have been bought at a tremendous cost to the general community both at home and abroad. Babies in Third World countries are dying of malnutrition as the economic consequences of lockdowns in the West reach them. Is an old person's life worth less than a younger person's? Well yes. They have made their contribution. Most people who have died in this country have been over 90 and 75% over the age of 75. I'm getting on a bit myself but I wouldn't want any kids in Africa to have to starve to death just for a few more weeks in a wheelchair.
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  213. Dulce periculim Tommy Robinson was in the BNP for about five minutes. He quit when he took one of his many black mates along and they wouldn't let him in. Tommy Robinson is not a racist. He just greatly fears the spread of radical Islam. So do I.
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  214. @Covid-19 Education I agree 100 per cent. The lockdown is worse than the disease. The trouble is that if it was lifted tomorrow there WOULD be one or two instances of it causing deaths and these would be seized upon by the media. The politicos are scared of that so we are stuck in this madness.
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  215. Russell Newton Don't sit well with us poor folk neither.
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  216. This is a bizarre view of history. Until Zionists began arriving in the latter part of the 19th century the entire region was a desert occupied by wandering tribesmen with herds of goats. The population was tiny. Jews created a well-watered, productive nation out of this desert and Arabs flooded in from Syria, Jordan and elsewhere to take advantage of these initiatives. To say that the Israelis "occupied" land belonging to Arabs is an utter travesty.
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  217.  @luisbustamante9869  But this is the plain truth of the matter. Today's "Palestinians" only have to look back two or three generations to find they originated in Syria, Iraq or Jordan. Palestine is not a country. It is some arbitrary lines drawn on a map by the British after the Great War and given a name dimly recollected from an English public school Latin education.
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  218.  @caspar_gomez  I have replied to this but although my reply is factual it has been censored somewhere along the line. Peace be with you in any case. This folly must end soon.
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  219. @Arfur Fuxxakes Hi Arfur! It's five actually and in all cases with mild, slightly different forms. Not to say it might not be a problem - but it's not likely to be a big one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUFfhIkA9E&t=668s
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  220. @Arfur Fuxxakes He doesn't actually agree with me in many respects. He is just a useful and objective guide to the official information which has been released and which can be found in the description below the video. Go to the sources if you doubt his analytical competence.
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  221. @Arfur Fuxxakes Peer reviewed reports on what? Official US and UK government statistics?
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  222. Mr Smirnoff By way of contrast US Sec of State Henry Kissinger is reported to have supported the EU because it saved on 'phone calls. "I know who to ring when I wanna find out what's going on over there."
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  223. Jeremy Corbyn wears striped pyjamas.
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  224.  Daniel D.  Hitler said exactly the same thing. Just couldn't stand criticism, that guy. Stalin was much the same.
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  225.  @MrDavidJMa  He's hung like a horse apparently -although this shouldn't make a difference to any decent woman.
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  226. I'd rather be ruled by billionaires than a bunch of whinging leftie losers.
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  227. @Arfur Fuxxakes Hi again Arfur! Why don't you ask that question in a year or so, after the sums have all been done?
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  228. @Arfur Fuxxakes How so? The statistics are what they are. Overwhelming evidence says the disease has a very low death rate, and it is predominantly the elderly (usually the very elderly) and those with pre-existing life-threatening conditions who die or become extremely ill. The facts are what they are. The only question is what to do about them. Do we continue living in fear, growing poorer and hungrier by the day on the off chance of serious re-infection or a new "wave" - or do we take our courage in our hands and move forward in the intelligent expectation that for most of us this might mean, at the worst, a headache and a bit of a cough?
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  229. He's right.
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  230. Where are the rocks you're living under?
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  231.  @TAP7a  He isn't - unless he's changed his mind quite a bit! He escaped Communist Hungary (as well as Nazi Germany earlier on) and is on record as despising all political creeds. His guiding principle is a thing called "reflexivity" which you will just have to look up. It's very complicated.
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  232.  @fredfredrickson5436  I quite enjoy their films myself. "Duck Soup" was rather good as I recall.
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  233. Evolution doesn't work like that. It involves a very great amount of death.
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  234.  @conall5434  In principle. But with a disease as selective as this in that it only kills the elderly,the infirm or those who have been subject to repeated short term infections, it could be entirely possible.
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  235.  @conall5434  Masks are not a universal panacea by any means. There are many factors affecting the rate of infection and death in many countries. Wearing a mask is but one of them.
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  236.  @ONeill01  No-one can quantify the effectiveness of masks. Their use is more psychological than anything else. And over 65 is more like it. Children seem if not immune then certainly far less likely to suffer severe symptoms.
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  237.  @conall5434  The masks worn by medical professionals when dealing with Covids are of a somewhat different order to the little nappies we wear. Our masks offer no protection to incoming viruses, and only partially prevent us from infecting others if we are unknowingly infected ourselves. Fiddling with your mask is likely to cause you to be infected if you have picked up viruses from hand to surface contact. When you start doing the numbers you start to realise that wearing masks is going to have very little effect on the spread of the disease, the fatal outcomes of which are diminishing rapidly in any case. And there is considerable evidence that children not only suffer very mild symptoms but also pass the disease adults very infrequently. In short we are not doing to little to late, we are doing too much too late. Boris's going into 75 different stages of panic isn't something we should emulate.
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  238.  @conall5434  Can you point me to a peer-reviewed study demonstrating how effective n95's or a bit of pillowcase are in restricting the spread of coronavirus? Some effect, but how much? And what is the statistical likelihood of anyone coming into contact with an unknowingly infected person as the figures stand at the moment? And what are the chances of a fit, healthy person suffering anything other than the equivalent of a dose of flu if they do?
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  239.  @ONeill01  I presume these studies have been repeated with confirmatory results and peer-reviewed papers published in reputable journals? This seems very tendentious to me. Did these percentage rates persist to the point where the growth rate reached zero, or was there a ceiling? Hydroxychloroquine has several studies which demonstrate its efficacy - not in preventing infection but in denying the virus the opportunity to replicate. Other drugs, if taken at the right time, can also vastly reduce symptoms. Overall, swift and effect treatment is a better solution. Otherwise we could be walking around wearing masks for years..
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  240.  @ONeill01  It's not a question of lack of efficacy, it's lack of consensus. All the studies I have seen show that the wearing of masks has an impact on reducing the spread of infection and to widely varying degrees. But in all cases the studies, naturally enough, were conducted in situations where participants washed their hands regularly. I have yet to find a study which demonstrates the efficacy of facemasks by experiment ie using free-floating viruses, viruses in water droplets viruses expelled at various speeds etc etc. If you know of one I would be very pleased indeed to read it.
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  241.  @ONeill01  I meant consensus on the degree of efficacy. Obviously. And the WHO certainly has a political agenda which affects its objectivity.
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  242.  @ONeill01  What evidence do you have otherwise? The mask issue aside, all I am saying is that the WHO, like nearly all UN agencies, is the pocket of China, and this clearly affects its pronouncements.
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  243.  @ONeill01  Both I imagine.
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  244.  @ONeill01  Must we keep going over this time and time again? It's simply a question of whether or not the degree of efficacy is worth the trouble of wearing them. This a quote from The Journal of Nursing There are of course many other views "Clinicians tend to depend on medical masks or simply cloth masks. But relying on masks alone may deflect them from practicing other basic safety measures and anomalously it would lead to spread more COVID-19 contagion. Otherwise, once a local outbreak starts in community settings general public begins panic-buying face-masks or sardonically, the N-95 respirators leading to a scarcity in the worldwide supply chain, price-hike and shortage for front-line health-care providers (Fen et al., 2020). No available mask exposes them to a bigger threat during patient interaction. Moreover, the improper face-mask use as well as the repetitive use of disposable masks may increase the vulnerability towards the transmission of COVID-19 (Fen et al., 2020)."
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  245.  @ONeill01  It is still not established to what degree masks prevent the spread of the virus. When masks, social distancing, frequent hand-washing and selective isolation are all used in conjunction with each other it is impossible to analyse their separate effects. The inconvenience of masks, along with the probable result of increased hand to face infection must be taken into account. That's what I'm implying.
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  246.  @ONeill01  You could say that about wearing bowler hats. I don't wear a mask because I hate them and regard them as symbols of conformity to an unproven ethic.They also provide a false sense of security and are a badge of faith in authority's ability to deal with this crisis - a faith I do not share.
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  247.  @ONeill01  Masks do not stop you from getting Covid. They may prevent you from passing it on if you unknowingly have it. That's all
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  248.  @ONeill01  I really think we are starting to agree with each other now. I don't think the pros outweigh the cons and you do.That's the big difference. There's no long-term future in keeping this virus out. We have to let it in and kill it before it kills us. Preventing viral replication is, I believe, the best answer and there are several ways of achieving this.
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  249.  @ONeill01  Oh dear I BELIEVE you. I simply refer you to my previous answer. I have scientific justification. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xqCg12rOPM
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  250. Everyone has their own agenda. This video proves something I have always believed: that socialism can provide an effective curb on the excesses of capitalism when in opposition, but should never be allowed to really take over the reins. You guys are just to nice and sweetly innocent to be let out on your own.
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  251.  @davecole7795  That is an a rather silly question. It's not really about the number of deaths as such; more about the number of months or years of meaningful existence. It might perhaps be more pertinent to ask how many black babies is it acceptable to cause to die from malnutrition per extra month of life for an incontinent white 90 year old with dementia? Or even , on a lesser scale, how many British schoolchildren with severe lifelong depressive illnesses can we match to our baseline 90 year old? Or small businesses gone bust? It's a game you can play for hours.
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  252.  @ClarkyGuitar  I'm sure I would have the same attitude. Allowing one's rational judgement to be affected by an individual experience is foolish and weak. If my brother was run over I wouldn't expect cars to be banned.
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  253.  @ClarkyGuitar  People die all the time. People get ill all the time and death is just about the most individual experience there is. Covid 19 is just one of the many things out there ready to do us harm. It's not even the worst, not by a long chalk. I have personal experience of two individuals whose lives have been ruined by influenza but I'm not going to hide in a cupboard because of it. Covid has been magnified out of all proportion and I guess because most developed countries have had it so easy for three or four generations we're howling like babies because of it. It's time to grim up and grow up.
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  254.  @stephencapel5630  As far as I'm concerned the jury's out on the effectiveness of immediate lockdowns prior to the virus taking a real hold. It could well be so - although there are many, many factors and imponderables affecting each country's experience of the disease. But it doesn't matter now. The thieves are in the house with us and locking the doors and windows is pretty pointless. (My clubbing days are long over, by the way. I was into them (or their equivalent) in 1969 and far, far too busy to even NOTICE the Hong Kong flu. It could be like that now. Without media hysteria and weak and obnoxious politicians would you know Covid was among us now? Think about it. How many people do you know of who have died? At the worst without all the hoo-hah you might be vaguely aware there's a nasty bug going around.)
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  255.  @ClarkyGuitar  I'm sorry, I don't quite see your point. Vaccines aren't the be all and all of everything. Quite often a new flu strain appears which a new vaccine has to be created for. We've had it very lucky for the past twenty years or so - which is why there have been so many very elderly and frail people around to die from Covid.
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  256.  @davecole7795  Plenty of people do die at home, though not always quietly. It's not worth wasting resources on the very elderly and very frail. Better to use them for 60 year olds 70 year olds and even fit 80 year olds who statistically have every chance of survival if treated correctly. As to ICU capacity, this is the same old tune every winter, Providing this new variant doesn't send things off the chart hospitals will easily be able to cope as they always do.
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  257.  @davecole7795  You don't send them home to die, they're there already. Moving them and shoving them in ambulances and intubating them is just going to cause incredible distress and will do no good anyway. What figures? If you watch the likes of BBC and Sky you are going to be lied to. And you can be sure that, yes, plenty of doctors are going to be stressed and will say so. But take a step or two back and you will realise that in reality while a few hospitals have 80-90% of ITU capacity used up there will actually be empty beds in nearby wards and even if ventilators etc are not on the premises they can be shipped in swiftly from elsewhere or, if the worst comes to the worst, patients can be taken by ambulance to another hospital where there are empty ITU beds. You must realise that this happens every year at this time. Between 1,500 and 2,000+ people die every day in the winter, between a third and a half of them in a hospital and most of these due to respiratory infections such as Covid 19. At the moment the situation is within those limits and we can just hope it stays that way.
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  258.  @davecole7795 People die when they get old. That's the way it is. With proper care the process can be made as painless as possible. The BBC always lies but there's no need to stage the scenes in the wards. Things can get pretty hairy in there sometimes, even without covid. You are quite right about staff shortages. A major problem at the moment is the high level of absenteeism due to covid fears but since nursing agencies supply a considerable portion of staff there is at least some flexibility. I actually don't see much evidence that things this year have been particularly bad until now but it certainly seems as though a sudden surge of relatively serious cases is pushing the situation further than one would like. The trouble with suddenly fast-moving scenarios is that it is impossible to get hold of the figures fast enough to keep up. Many of the dramatic emergencies we have be told about in the past have turned out to be journalistic and political exaggerations and while this sudden most recent one will probably turn out the same way it would be foolish to assume it. Fingers crossed, eh?
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  259. The only trouble I have with this video is that in the thumbnail Javid isn't brown enough. Why?
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  260. As opposed to a campaign of rape, pillage and murder such as the good guys?
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  261.  @stevendurrant1724  No. Those facts were always there in the CDC's own records. They have simply been highlighted, that's all.
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  262. Garlic Breath You are a true philosopher. Well done again
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  263. Garlic Breath I know good one about a parrot, but you've probably heard it before.
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  264. Garlic Breath No. How does it go?
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  265. Garlic Breath Didn't Ingmar Bergman make a film of this?
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  266. Garlic Breath Must have missed it. Funny though, I have a distinct memory of a gloomily lit black and white film with a chubby blonde guy dressed as a parrot and a skinny little girl who was supposed to be the Angel of Death or something. I must be going mad I suppose.
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  267. Deborah Mahmoudieh Only the ones who voted Labour.
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  268. Garlic Breath I don't think that can have been it. I really only remember the last scene in which the fat blond guy, divested of his parrot costume , is sitting on a beach at nightfall looking out to sea rather enigmatically. There's a fire with a bird on a stick cooking on it: a small bird - supposed to be a parrot I surmise. The Angel of Death is nowhere to be seen. It was as boring as shit actually. Memory plays strange tricks, because now I think about it the fat blond guy looked a lot like Boris Johnson and the Angel of Death was the spitting image of Greta Thunberg.
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  269. A two-state solution can never work. Like it or not, a heavily-defended Greater Israel is the only route to anything like a permanent peace.
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  270. They seem to me to be doing everything they can to AVOID herd immunity. If they had done next to nothing at all herd immunity would probably have been achieved by now.
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  271.  @edricaldones9639  I quite agree! I would be delighted to have my children and grandchildren married into such families.
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  272. Grey Wolf How does one get to be an oligarch I wonder?
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  273. Jared Garbo But there must bec a lot of work involved. Being an oligarch must be pretty stressful and time-consuming. Why don't they just play golf and stuff?
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  274. Grey Wolf Then no nice, warm-hearted cuddly oligarchs then?
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  275.  @ChrisPage68  You seem to need your brains tested. Can't you just take pity on me and explain what is wrong with this long-standing arrangement?
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  276.  @StewFairweather  Absurd. The British delegates have no say in Oman's internal affairs and humans rights abuses can be directly traced to the strict application of Shariah law. Nothing whatsoever to do with the oil trade. And what interest are there to declare? Our team get fed and watered exactly as would if visiting any other country. Do you expect them to take sandwiches and a Thermos? And the reason why it doesn't get talked about in the media is because it isn't very interesting.
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  277.  @Galactorate  But it's not secretive and it does not control Oman! Don't you get that? Oman is a strict Muslim hereditary monarchy which has a good relationship with Britain based exclusively on oil trade infrastructure. The fact that have slaves and cut people's heads off from time to time is a pretty clear indication that Britain does NOT meddle in Oman's internal affairs.
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  278.  @nyakwarObat  How so? It strikes me you may have.
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  279.  @nyakwarObat  I've never been entirely sure what the Kardashians are and I happen to have read a great deal of history. Britain's relationship with Oman has developed in a mutually beneficial way, and imposing a Marxist filter on it does nothing to alter that fact.
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  280.  @nyakwarObat  All history books are fabricated to a certain extent, aren't they though? Recent ones especially.
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  281.  @nyakwarObat  None of these gentlemen have offered an account of the history of Oman as far as I am aware. And you do rather prove my point about intellectual deterioration over the years. Chomsky???!!
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  282.  @audreymcgready4329  My days of being brainwashed are long over, I'm pleased to say. I really don't see how anyone who has studied to any degree the history of this area can do anything but conclude that the Arabs are the prime movers of conflict, motivated as they are by Medieval-style religious convictions, whereas the Israelis just want to build a modern country. Good luck to them, I say.
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  283.  @BrazenBull91  It matters.
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  284.  @audreymcgready4329  And learn the history of Palestine? People should.
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  285.  @sososoprano1  That is only part of the story. And what is a "Palestinian" anyway? This whole area was impoverished and vastly underpopulated under the aegis of the declining Ottoman Empire. Only between half a million to a million lived there and a high percentage of them were Jews. Then Zionism came along. The Zionists actually bought large tracts of land from their Ottoman owners and began a process of transforming a derelict semi-desert into thriving farmland. Arabs flooded in from neighbouring countries, either as labourers or in some cases as actual invaders. Today's "Palestinians" are largely the descendants of these people. If it wasn't for Jews they wouldn't be there. The wave of Jewish settlers which occurred after the horror of the Holocaust created enormous problems all round, and things were done on both sides which, in retrospect, were utterly shameful. But the over-riding factor in my view is that the Muslims hate the Jews for religious reasons. The more extreme among them -who have the whip hand, sadly - want them all dead. The Jews on the other hand are quite happy to live side by side with Arabs as long as they behave themselves, work hard and don't steal from them or threaten to kill them. I sincerely hope and pray that the Arabs will eventually be able to cast off their religious prejudices and take part properly in the great experiment which is the creation of the state of Israel. As things stand, however, they have to accept the consequences of their attitude and actions. They have given the Israelis no real alternative.
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  286.  @sososoprano1  This was only part of the problem, as I'm sure you realise. My original reply has been deleted by YouTube's new fiercely fascist, pro Arab algorithm, but I hope I can say that once the religious element is removed from the Arabs' attitude towards the Jews there is a real chance that peace might be achieved.
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  287.  @GillianBailey-s9z  From your comment I doubt you know much of the history of the region, only those parts of it doled out to you by Arab propaganda,
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  288.  @sososoprano1  Israel and the Zionists have, in the past, bent over backwards to establish cordial relations with the Arabs (who make up some 20% of the population, by the way). Unfortunately, religious prejudice has forced the Muslims to heed the voices of extremism and all such efforts have been met with violent opposition. What is happening now in Gaza (donated freely to the Arabs by Israel, incidentally) the Arabs have brought upon themselves by decades of unreasonable and often cruel behaviour.
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  289.  @GillianBailey-s9z  Mere buzzwords.
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  290.  @GillianBailey-s9z  Mere buzzwords.
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  291.  @sososoprano1  What is happening now in Gaza is the result of decades of Muslim extremists failing to listen to reason and preventing their more moderate brothers and sisters from enjoying Israel's proffered hand of friendship.
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  292.  @sososoprano1  I have. It is clear to me that the current "good guy, bad guy" narrative is far from the truth. The history of Zionism and the Arab reaction to it put both the events of 1948 and subsequent conflicts into a somewhat different perspective. Unfortunately the new YouTube algorithm, being both fascist and pro-Arab, prevents me from going into further detail.
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  293.  @sososoprano1  I have. Once again the deeply sinister new YouTube algorithm has deleted my previous replies, but I hope I can safely say that the foundations of the present horrors were laid long before the Balfour Declaration. Even subsequent events are the result of the intractability of certain people who adhere to a somewhat questionable version of reality created over a thousand years ago.
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  294.  @GillianBailey-s9z  Mere buzzwords.
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  295.  @sososoprano1  I have. The deeply sinister new YouTube algorithm has, however, several times prevented me from sharing it with you. All I can say is that you are, like so many people, probably looking at a very broad picture through a very small peephole.
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  296. @prano1 I have. I've several times tried to share my findings with you, but YouTube's new algorithm has decided you must be kept in ignorance.
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  297. Israel is not committing genocide. It is merely taking steps to protects its people. The genocidal maniacs are the Islamic extremists who genuinely want to destroy all Jews. The Jews just want to stop them doing it.
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  298. Adam Powell They don't want to be murdered in their beds you mean. Children are horrible. I put it down to immaturity.
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  299. Adam Powell. I too remember the nuclear threat but was of the opinion that nuclear weapons were the only thing that prevented a vicious and bloody conventional war post-1945. It is a view I still hold. I also hold the view that the threat apparently posed by AGW is vastly exaggerated. Children are idiots as well as horrible. Do you really believe they have come to this state of mind independently? Of course they haven't. They are being wickedly manipulated by their bonkers lefty schoolteachers.
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  300. Adam Powell There are plenty about nowadays. The Watermelon People are using classic totalitarian techniques by enlisting children to their cause. It's an utter disgrace the kind of one-sided propaganda being foisted on children, many of whom are absolutely terrified by this alarmist nonsense.
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  301. Adam Powell I find it hard to see how global warming is a factor in the Australian bush fires. A fire will catch whether the temperature is 30c or 40c. By far the largest factor is the absurdity of green policies which have legislated against traditional methods of bushfire management. In the extensive national forests these have been virtually abandoned. Undergrowth has built up season after season and firebreaks and access routes for emergency vehicles have become overgrown Backburning and other techniques for prevention are now subject to so much red tape that farmers no longer bother with them. If the do-gooders had minded their own business then this tragedy would not have happened. I know little about the mosquito situation in Kenya but unless it is a result of poor management I imagine it is indeed caused by global warming - solar forced global warming mainly. We are now emerging from a cold period which ended in about 1850 and it will certainly get hotter over the next few decades, with or without increases in atmospheric carbon.
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  302. Adam Powell You can't change human nature. Decent people outnumber psychopaths, but the devious psychopath will always come out on top. Everybody has to be a pacifist before pacifism works and that just ain't gonna happen. The motivation and ability to create nuclear weapons will always exist. Amorality and pragmatism beat idealism most days of the week I'm afraid.
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  303. Adam Powell I feel I have a duty to try to disabuse people of harmful notions. This can lead to interesting discussions from which I might learn something myself. I don't see the point in mutual appreciation societies. Arguing is much more fun.
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  304. Adam Powell How do you work that out? A fire takes one match or one lightning strike. Where does global warming enter into that? Does it make it harder to put them out? How so? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNRB8SQbVvE
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  305. Adam Powell I've run into a few psychopaths in my time. Quite a few in fact. I used to be an investigative journalist, specialising in helping to expose religious cults. There's a couple of contenders for the diagnosis in the echelons of climate alarmism, believe you me.
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  306. Adam Powell I disagree. So there!
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  307. And look how that worked out! The Terror and the restoration of the monarchy pretty damned quick!
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  308. It is.
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  309. Thank you very much for this. I knew little of Dominic Cummings until his press conference yesterday, when I came away admiring him greatly. After the information presented here I now admire him more and more. I don't think he got permission from Boris though. It would have been unnecessary if all you say is true and would have been disadvantageous to both of them.
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  310. We need to understand that Donald Trump - of all people - is entirely on board with this message. The conflict is between the forces of control and the will of ordinary, everyday folk to run their lives as best they see fit.
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  311. Insane Arab terrorists?
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  312. The video from successful Conservative council candidate Tiger Patel says it all. He didn't even have to say a word. Elections are won or lost on images, not policies.
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  313. My parents were racists. Most of my teachers were racists. It was the prevalent attitude of mind back in the '50s and early '60s. My generation fought against it and quite frankly I think we won. It's very telling that all the examples of racism in this presentation have to hark back to the past. I'm sorry, but it will take more than this to convince me that anti-racism today is actually about race as such. The left has lost the support of the working class as a whole and therefore has a vested interest in securing the support of minorities. The success of those many black and brown people who have made their mark while at the same time espousing conservative values must be galling , I know, but it exists and there are many examples of it. Examples of contemporary systemic racism, on the other hand, seem pretty thin on the ground.
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  314.  @ChrisPage68  It'd be useful to have a couple of firm examples dating later than 1980 say. Do you have anything in mind?
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  315. If he had been re-elected The Afghanistan withdrawal cock-up wouldn't have happened. Think on that.
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  316.  @peterwright5311  Wriggle as much as you like, the Trump plan if enacted would have prevented much, if not all, of the dire, immediate consequences of the Biden debacle. There were 80,000 named civilian helpers guaranteed safe withdrawal. The token force was there simply to administer this; from both Kabul AND Bagram. Biden, by ignoring the May deadline, blew this out of the water. As far as equipment is concerned there is no way of saying at this stage whether it would have been left behind or destroyed. An intelligent analysis of the Afghan army's reliability in the first few months of this year would clearly have shown the latter to have been very much preferable. Trump is an intelligent and cunning negotiator, capable of making rational decisions. Biden is a senile buffoon.
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  317. I have looked into the future of journalism and it is grim.
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  318. Pot, kettle, black?
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  319. George Monibot is an insane egomaniac.
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  320. This is horrifying. The defeated left seems to be transitioning from mere delusion into raging paranoia. The oligarchs (whoever they are) don't need fake news to undermine socialism. Ordinary sensible, uncomplicated people are sick to death of its patronising self-righteousness. Us "poor people", as you toffee-nosed Commies call us, know our lives will be safer and richer when we are governed by people who know what they're doing, rather than by a bunch of half-arsed intellectuals with grandiose ideas. You are living in a dream world. You'll just have to accept that we don't want to enter into your fantasies. Its game over. Get used to it.
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  321. In the 1920s both the Soviet Union and Canada made plans to exploit the new lands then being exposed in the North. Surveys were undertaken and roads and railways mapped Then the tundra froze over again. Man-made climate change is crap. And I ain't no Russian troll.
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  322.  @hanimazen5717  Beats me. But there it is..Previous versions are still available. This one has been taken down and then re-uploaded.
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  323. Yeah, what happened to that?
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  324. I hope this comment lasts. Mine in a similar vein has now been removed.
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  325.  @accc9090  Has is crossed your mind that there might be some sort of overlap here? The sort of people who have died from Covid - the elderly, those with lung and heart conditions - are exactly the sort of people who die from influenza. We can therefore expect the flu deaths this coming winter to be much reduced. Covid got 'em first.
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  326.  @accc9090  How do you know they have long lasting effects to their pulmonary system etc etc?And how many of them are there? Very probably, as with practically all conditions, there will be a small percentage who will suffer anomalous long-lasting side effects. It is very unfortunate but that's the way it is. It's obvious that the fewer who catch it the better -but there has to come a cut-off point. There has to be a time when we can say:look the deaths are dropping drastically, the number of people suffering from serious long term effects is small. Let's come out of hiding. A lot has been learned about the best ways of dealing with this disease. Unfortunately it has become politicised by some and seen as an opportunity to make money by others. There is an incredible amount of misinformation around. Personally I think the fact that deaths from ALL causes in the UK are now running at a figure below a five year average is a strong indicator that Covid has harvested practically all it is likely to. For this reason one can predict that flu deaths this winter will be lower than normal. .
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  327.  @accc9090  Then you must give me links to these studies so I may assess them. I would be grateful if you would do so.
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  328.  @accc9090  Newspapers tell lies; now more than ever before. I was a journalist myself for thirty years and saw standards drop. They are even lower now. Back in the day the joke was "never let the facts interfere with a good story." Bad enough, but now the deceptions are often politically motivated. I have gone to a few primary sources as you suggested and - as I expected - all the "might", "may be" and "scientists fear that" stories you have presumably read all have very shaky foundations. The simple and obvious fact is that we are at too early a stage to predict long term outcomes. That is not to say that there won't be any. There certainly will. Influenza, for instance often has severe long term effects. Reduced lung function persists in the majority of cases, Crippling depression and exhaustion can persist not just for months, but years. There is considerable evidence that schitzophrenia can result in later years in people whose mothers had the flu while pregnant. It has been cited as a cause of Parkinson's disease in later life. It is important to remember that all these things - and indeed the symptoms themselves - are not actually caused by the virus itself, but by our bodies' reactions to the invasion. This is why prophylactic precautions are just as important, if not more so than trying to keep the disease at bay by wearing a shred of cloth on your face. I have evidence for everything I say. When I speculate I make it clear. I am afraid that propagandists posing as journalists you have read in publications such as the Guardian do not adhere to these standards.
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  329.  @Paul-eb2cl  It's pointless arguing In fact doctors often have great difficulty in determining the cause of death when a number of factors is present, but they are told in a pandemic to include the pandemic disease on the certificate if they have any suspicion that it may have been present. In the case you mention the doctor, if he was doing his job, would have put the cause of death as myocardial infarction, but included on the certificate that Covid 19 was present. That death would have been entered as coronavirus related and would have appeared in the daily "death toll" figure. This injunction was made very shortly after the outbreak was discovered and it is false to suggest that deaths in care homes would not have had coronavirus entered as possibly present on their death certificate, and thus they too would have appeared in the official figures. No test would have been necessary. The fact the deceased was running a temperature and was coughing would have been enough. All this suggests that the actual number of deaths attributable to Covid 19 are probably LESS than the official figure, but it seems churlish to argue the point. What interests me more is why people find it necessary to exaggerate and amplify a situation which is bad enough as it is. This mindset seems to occur in people who have some deep inner need to take as many precautions as possible, to regulate as much as possible, to find someone to blame and to try to apply rules of juristiction to what is a manifestation of cruel nature, rather than any fault of man.
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  330.  @Paul-eb2cl  Sorry for being so defensive then. You were , however, attempting to provide information in support of a falsehood. I'm afraid I am getting increasingly riled by the quantity of misinformation being accepted as gospel by so many people.
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  331.  @Paul-eb2cl  Covid deaths now in single figures almost every day. Deaths from all causes now below the five-year average for the sixth week running. Total official death figure now reduced as new stricter criteria applied. I think you must be including excess deaths from causes other than from Covid itself, but indirectly caused by panic (not pandemic) ie cancer and heart patients not getting treatment, excess suicides etc etc. Anyhow. It's all ancient history now. We must look to the future. If there IS a second wave it will be entirely due to our failure to deal properly with this one. Lockdowns and facemasks are all very well, but the virus is still out there when we ease lockdowns and stop wearing masks. Prophylactics and very swift treatment with viral reproduction inhibitors are the answer I think. And the drugs are out there, tried and tested and usually very cheap. What I fear most is the introduction of new untried vaccines, created with profit in mind.
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  332. The only reason Labour was successful was because it isn't the Conservative Party. The only reason Reform didn't gain more seats is because those protesting the failures and deceits of the Conservatives didn't wish to risk wasting their votes. Next time round it will be a different story for, contrary to Mr Monboit's assertion, there is absolutely no desire for left-wing policies in this country among the great mass of the populace, and nor will there ever be.
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  333.  @zzztefanos  What are you babbling about?
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  334.  @zzztefanos  What does productive policy-making mean?
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  335.  @zzztefanos  Different approaches by different forces, I suppose. Even if if is true (as may well be the case) that more black youths are represented in the knife-carrying communities of London and Manchester, the fact that the approaches are dissimilar cannot surely be due to racial prejudice? Racial realism, perhaps, since it is undeniably true that racial groups behave in different ways according to ethnicity and custom. Certain groups specialise in particular crimes and have a particular attitude towards them. As little time as I have for the British police they seem generally to be bending over backwards to appease the perceived requirements of minority groups and I would imagine the only reason such conciliatory measures as are employed in Glasgow and elsewhere are not favoured in cities with larger young black populations is because the feeling is that they wouldn't work. Having said all that I feel that this disparity might possibly be categorised as an example of systemic racism in the broadest and loosest sense of the term. Thankyou. Well done. Got any more?
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  336.  @zzztefanos  There are considerable differences, I agree, between natives of various African countries and indeed between people from different Caribbean islands. This is why it is so foolish to designate the colour of a person's skin as the most important thing about them. The discrimination that exists is generally that exercised by authority against people who won't do as they're told. This is why the current white liberal obsession with "racism" is so dangerous. Black people should not allow themselves to be drawn into it. It is extremely divisive.
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  337.  @zzztefanos  I think it was Malcolm X who said something about white liberals being the most dangerous people in the world. He was probably right. Racism was dying a death until it was revived by the left for political gain. I resent this because my generation was the first to really fight back against it - and we pretty much had won until socialists discovered that the working class didn't want them and decided to create a new oppressed proletariat as the beneficiaries of their self-righteousness.
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  338.  @zzztefanos  Just a PS and perhaps a helpful hint for the day. Back in the late sixties and early seventies I found it useful to carry around a DS cop's card and also put a couple of station numbers in my address book. That way if you get shaken down they think you're a grass and let you go. Worked for me twice.
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  339.  @andrewwotherspoona5722  No guarantee of that. I suppose it depends on how you define "elites". The sons of the wealthy and privileged died in their thousands in the wars of the twentieth century and Biden's son Beau served in both Bosnia and Iraq, just as an example.
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  340.  @brynleytalbot778  Actually the Greenland ice cores show a similar event at the end of the 19th century. Anecdotal evidence suggests conditions were similar in the 1920s but apparently ice core data is no use that recently. Something to do with the snow not impacting enough, I believe.
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  341. ​ @arnehofoss9109  Thanks! Many of my links get blocked by YouTube but I'll try one in another post.
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  342. Kim Shepherd On the contrary, laws of libel in the UK are incredibly strict. Once you start conflating interpretation with fact you are on a slippery slope towards state censorship. But perhaps that's what you want?
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  343. Adam Dear me, you do have quite a chip on you shoulder, don't you old chap?
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  344. I like rich people. They must be very clever to get as rich as they are. I want my country to be run by clever rich people, is there anything wrong with that?
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  345. Louvre360 Yes. Thank you for asking.
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  346. Louvre360 I hope there is nothing wrong with you. Your 2nd message said "goof" and finished strangely. I hope you haven't had a stroke.
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  347. The change came from the IPCC.
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  348. Why is the word "corruption" used in this context I often wonder? It seems a perfectly healthy and time-honoured way of conducting business to me. Under a full-on Socialist/Marxist system money would still be disiursed in various ways, but only after lengthy committee discussions and the end results in terms of services and facilities available to the general public would be far inferior.
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  349.  toriesrdemons tories kill  I agree we need Socialism to exist - if merely as a threat to prevent Tories from grinding the faces of the poor too ferociously. It may even be allowed to rule for a year or two to hammer the point home. To expect it to actually run a country fairly and efficiently for any length of time is, however, just plain ridiculous.
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  350. Stephen Paul Spot on! With proportional representation UKIP would have had sufficient MPs to help ensure a smooth transition into Brexit without all this fuss!
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  351. Stephen Paul Well we'll never really know, will we? I think nationalistic German imperialism was buried under the rubble by the 1950s. It still existed on paper though - in the form of a plan drawn up by the Nazis in 1939 , much of which formed the basis for the earliest efforts towards European unification.
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  352. Stephen Paul Probably so! It is a thing though, but how real a thing I don't know. I'll try to check it out.
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  353. skyblaze eterno Ah yes. It was called Europische Wirtshafts Gemeinschaft, roughly the same as European Economic Community. It was produced in 1942 when the Germans thought they were going to win and were planning how to run Europe. It was written by economists and bankers under the leadership of Prof Walter Funk, Hitler's economics minister and President of the Reichsbank. There were sections on agriculture, industry communications etc and made provisions for a harmonised currency system. There are those who say that this document bears remarkable similarities to the provisions of the 1957 Treaty of Rome which of course kicked off the EEC. Without the tedious task of placing the two side by side it is difficult to say how much truth there is in this. It's an interesting thought though.
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  354. atomic critter But with plenty of meat in it.
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  355. Cromwell 1 You have written a lot of question marks. There are 31 question mark. That's a lot of question marks. Why did you do that?
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  356. Cromwell 1 You also write in Upper Case. Why do you do that?
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  357. Cromwell 1 I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.
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  358. What do you find so hard to believe?His eyes were bad when he was ill. They were OK now but he wanted to make sure they were up to the strain of driving. If you want parallels with the USSR or 1984 consider Emily Maitlis on Newsnight or the BooBoris nonsense.
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  359. All you have to do is lock people up and torture them until they agree with you. Simple really.
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  360.  @aarondavis9290  Yes they are. The walrus fell off the cliff because they were being approached by a pack of hungry polar bears. The drone cameras buzzing round their heads didn't help. Nothing whatsoever to do with climate change. Walrus always crowd onto dry land to birth so theoretically the more of it there is, the happier they are.
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  361. Surely fossil fuel companies are major investors in green energy?
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  362.  @Ian_Carolan  But they are covering their bets by investing in wind and solar power, electric vehicles etc. It is foolish to suppose they do not realise that diversification is necessary. Objection to the AGW hypothesis comes generally from individuals who fail to see much evidence for it in the real world, and clearly see images and data manipulated to give it credibility. They are reacting to propaganda, not succumbing to it.
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  363.  @toyotaprius79  As I understand it the six major oil companies are investing in all green energy areas, including wind and solar power and electric vehicles. This may currently only account for slightly more than 1% of their total budgets, but it us clear they are hedging their bets and do not see alternative energies so much as rivals as strategies to be incorporated into their future business plans.
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  364.  @BrianMcGuirkBMG  They are currently only spending about 1% or so of their budgets on it I admit. That's only a few billion dollars, but I don't quite know where the rest of the money comes from.
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  365.  @burner9147  About 1% of their budgets at the moment. Only a few billion dollars though.
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  366.  @BrianMcGuirkBMG  Not really. I know what I know and don't know what I don't know.
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  367.  @dalstein3708  Have you got any idea how MUCH 1% of the combined budgets of the six major oil companies must amount to? Manufacturing wind turbines is a costly business, but at least it's subsidised. What's a FUD tactic? Does it really cost more than manufacturing wind turbines and electric cars?
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  368.  @BrianMcGuirkBMG  I don't see the connection. Trump got elected to drain the swamp, not to revise cosmology. Shame his efforts have been interrupted, considering present events on the other side of the globe.
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  369.  @dalstein3708  I don't hear much denial from fossil fuel companies. I get my denial from individuals and sites who, like me, regard the whole AGW hypothesis with deep suspicion. I'm an old journo and back in the day the watchword was: "Where's the pile of bodies?" The cancerous effects of tobacco became clear, but even then people continued to smoke - not because of tobacco company pressure but because smoking was so bloody nice. I still haven't seen the piles of bodies promised by man-made climate change yet. Lots of luvverly coloured graphs yes, but nothing on the ground. The ice caps are not melting. Seas are not rising. There is no evidence that natural disasters are any worse or more frequent than they have ever been. It's looking to me very much as though it is the climate crisis industry which is performing the tobacco company's role - throwing out propaganda to support a money-making enterprise - one in this instance which is part of a general move to reshape capitalism.
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  370.  @RussCR5187  They weren't overwhelmed in the first wave which was far, far worse than this very minor hiccup is likely to be. Therapeutic measures already exist, particularly in the form of hydroxychloroquine which reduces death rates by at least a third if administered early enough, and also acts as an effective prophylactic.
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  371.  @mattgreek1066  Oh Matt! Isn't it past your bedtime? I've just given Russ some proper science to read and I'm sure he's to bright to listen to your nonsense. What Dale is, as you know, is someone who worries about all you poor children being told nasty stories by bad grown-ups and is doing his very best to open your eyes to reality.
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  372.  @RussCR5187  It actually helps with your issues https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03592823 Once again the Big Pharma shills shoved ten or twenty times the proper dose down their trial patients to get the bad results. Hydroxychloroquine cost $37.50 for 1000 in the US - and even less in the third world. There's no money in it -which is why Big Pharma hates it. (Don't take any notice of little Matt. He follows me around like a dog. He thinks I am a Russian bot, I believe. He is probably slightly insane, poor boy.)
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  373.  Lala Ghana-Love  Difficult unless you are a contortionist.
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  374. What tosh! Racism and racists are dying out day by day and are not being replaced. You're right, you can't get people to change their view, you just have to wait for them to die. Which inevitably they do.
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  375. Of course the Moslems want to take over. It says so in the Koran and no amount of moral obfuscation will alter that fact.
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  376. Lenny Harry The average individual contribution to CO2 emissions is 58.6 tonnes a year. A transatlantic flight will add 1.6 tonnes A vegan diet will reduce your carbon footprint by .8 of a tonne. Every little helps I suppose.
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  377. lenny harry The Financial Times says so. Not a tablet of stone I agree, but I would imagine the figure is based on some sort of evidence. If you want to be a vegan then be a vegan. I don't see why you should want to add to your feelngs of virtue by imagining you are helping cool the Earth down in any way.
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  378. lenny harry. You were perfectly clear and I understood you perfectly. You just happen to be wrong.
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  379. lenny harry The .8 of a tonne is .8 of a tonen a year, by the way. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.
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  380. Dr Diablory Are you a DENIER??!! Me and Millie probably won't even be ALIVE long enough to become horrible stereotypes. We will go down fighting. We will laugh when we see you deniers choke to death on your own vomit. Great clouds of evil C02 are due to engulf the planet before me and Millie even get to be grown-ups. You must be grown up already I suppose which makes you double-dead selfish in this regard, you bloody DENIER!!
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  381. Dr Diablory You are a dillytanti! Nothing more! No-one cares about your bicycle. Fly all over the world, it won't matter. The carbon is ALREADY THERE!! Me and Millie don't eat meat neither but that's because we love animals more than people. Bicycles and vegan is just the Oligarch's way of making you harmless. Me and Millie don't want to be harmless. We want ACTION. Gluing yourself to stuff and starting bushfires in Australia just don't hack it bro! When get a bit older me and Millie are going to get flying lessons and fly a plane into some big buildings. just like those Musclemen guys did back in the day. That's if we DO get older. You bastards have had YEAR and YEARS to sort this out but all you've done is ride your fucking bicycles and make a big deal about your crappy fucking diet. Wankers!!
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  382.  @DG-iw3yw  And what about those vicious Welsh choirboys?
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  383.  @DG-iw3yw  Those Welsh choirboys can be quite vicious too.
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  384.  @DubanaburiDubanaburi  But he isn't talking about ALL Jews - just the little group of Jews he's arguing with!
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  385.  @2spliffs41lifetime  Who is invading who exactly? I think we are at cross purposes.
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  386. What do you mean CAN'T? You can carry on chaining yourself to railings or gluing your face to a road as much as you like. You'll just get punished for it, that's all. Your protests will thus become more effective. as well as separating the REAL revolutionaries from the middle-class twits who think it's all just a game.
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  387. On the contrary, Big Corporate is restructuring capitalism and utilising mind control as expertly uses in communist states is part of the process.
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  388. Stewart Jennings This becoming terrifying. Obviously following the election of the racist/fascist Johnson the Koch brothers and their one-percenter allies are following up with a concerted attempt to shut down legitimate opposition. We must mobilise immediately. The Hope Not Hate website appears unaffected SO FAR. Go to www,hopenothate.org.uk IMMEDIATELY and report the difficulties you have experienced.
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  389. Stewart Jennings Welcome Comrade!
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  390. Stewart Jennings Wonderful stuff. These family connections are so important, aren't they? I myself am a descendant of Robert Noonan who, under the name Robert Tressell, wrote that great socialist masterpiece The Ragged-Trousered Philanthropists. Have you read it? As you say, let's keep going forward with hope in our hearts and a smile on our lips! Victory is just around the corner.
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  391. No it was him telling a bunch of lies which did that.
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  392. And went to the trenches. What would Boris do I wonder?
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  393. Odd how it's the nuttiest Jews who support the nuttiest Muslims.
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  394.  @jamesallen4050  It's just that it seems so unlikely. I wish we could have more details, that's all.
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  395. Rebuild Britain and save the planet. I like the sound of that, Will it take long do you think?
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  396.  @BambiTrout  Your analogy is absurd. Israel has as much right to the land it occupies as do the so-called Palestinians, most of whom are the descendants of Arabs from neighbouring countries who flocked into the area to take advantage of the prosperity engendered by Zionism. The Jews consistently attempted to be fair to these people in the early days, but were met with general hostility created by the religious intolerance of Islam. Their attitude has understandably hardened over the years and they have met fire with fire in order to survive. It is a tragedy that matters should have reached this point, but it is undoubtedly the intransigence of Islamic fundamentalism which is the prime cause - not a cruel and savage colonialism on the part of Israel.
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  397.  @DJ25-g4l  I suggest you follow your own advice. The modern Jewish presence in Palestine goes back to the 19th century, when large tracts of land were actually purchased from their Ottoman owners by Zionists. At this time the area was vastly underpopulated and there were soon as many Jews as there were Arabs. The Zionists created farms out of deserts and Arabs from Syria and Jordan flooded in to take advantage of this prosperity. Arab warlords also conquered large tracts. These are the ancestors of the poor, oppressed Palestinians your heart bleeds for.
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  398. Can someone tell me where I can get figures showing the effectiveness of renewable energy sources? As far as I can see a wind turbine, made of oil-based plastic, its components shipped across vast areas of ocean and driven along roads on low-loaders before being set up in foundations the size of a six-bedroom house comprised of concrete interlaced with tons of steel rebar netting is going to enter the world with a considerable carbon debt . How long will this take to repay? Just asking. Honestly. Do set me straight if you can.
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  399. It's probably more a question of temperament than susceptibility to media propaganda. To right-wingers the left often seems paranoid and easily influenced, addicted to authority and control and lacking in necessary cynicism. The climate change issue typifies this as indeed does typical responses to the covid pandemic.
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  400.  @fredatlas4396  What is?
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  401. So right about masks. I've been through a lot of evidence from both sides and I'm convinced the disadvantages outweigh the advantages to a considerable degree. They are a psychological prop, that's all.
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  402.  @jonathanhurst980  Wot?
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  403.  @RictusHolloweye  Any idea why? It seems that his is the only media empire offering any critique at all. Most objections come from individuals and very small organisations who do not seem to attract much financial support from anyone.
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  404.  @ChrisPage68  It absolutely isn't.
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  405.  @BrianMcGuirkBMG  No it isn't.
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  406.  @RictusHolloweye  No, I was thinking more of individuals such as Tony Heller and little two or three man outfits like Friends of Science. Most of the money seems to get poured into the other side. All media outlets apart from Murdoch's seem to spend millions of whipping up the hysteria and even YouTube channels like Just Have a Think have high production values. Much more money in feeding this monster than trying to attack it.
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  407.  @jonathanhurst980  I do. The climate is constantly changing in response to a series of rhythms the causes of which we cannot fully understand. There is no direct evidence that atmospheric carbon levels, man-made or otherwise, have any particular influence, other than to initiate a possible thermostatic mechanism.
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  408.  @jonathanhurst980  That's when two and two were first added added together to make five.
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  409.  @jonathanhurst980  I'm a denier and I'm not on a public forum highly invested in fossil fuels. Obviously it is now more or less essential for political survival to pay at least lip-service to the notion of AGW - and it is very profitable in many ways, which is what counts. The idea wasn't made up; it seems to have been the result of a series of errors, compounded by repetition and then realised to open new paths to creating a world currency while exercising control over human behaviour. It works very well, but it doesn't mean it's true.
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  410.  @jonathanhurst980  Tony Heller is a man hated and reviled by the climate change mafia. He is a brilliant archivist and has kept all the NASA etc graphs from the past and shows how they have been altered, as well as newspaper articles demonstrating the differences between what happened and what the "scientists" pretend happened. Just go to his YouTube channel and make your own mind up.
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  411. You are sick.
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  412. The indigenous people of America had been there since the last ice age. The so-called Palestinians have been there for five minutes - and most of them wouldn't be there at all if it wasn't for the Zionists.
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  413. The indigenous people of America had been there for tens of thousands of years. The so-called Palestinians are more recent interlopers, and many of them wouldn't be there at all if their grandparents and great-grandparents hadn't moved in to take advantage of the prosperity introduced by the Zionists they now so despise.
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  414. The Palestinians are not indigenous to Palestine.
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  415.  @ljt3084  All very impressive, but who givers a fuck?
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  416.  @patrickgrove3469  Because the native populations of America had been there since the last ice age. The Palestinians aren't even Palestinians for the most part. They wouldn't even be there if it wasn't for the Zionists.
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  417.  @patrickgrove3469  Because the original inhabitants of the American continent had been there since the end of the last ice age. The Palestinians not quite so much.
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  418. Thahkyou THANKYOU for oll the wonderful work George and Greta and your pretend news channel are doing to turn ordinary people against the cynical madness of climate change hysteria. The gig is up. You have been rumbled. We have seen through you. You are all going to die in a blizzard of contempt while your weasel words freeze in your,sick, sad hearts.
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  419. Trump 2020!
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  420. Good. Can I live in your house while you're gone?
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  421.  @bobjohnbowles  Fortune favours the brave. And everyone winds up dead, or haven't you noticed?
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  422. Uk Gamer The Chancellor and the Home Secretary are both Muslim. What are you worrying about?
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  423. frostek I hadn't heard this. What's the juice???
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  424. stephen elkington I guess I am. I certainly voted Conservative in the recent election; but that was more to help hasten Brexit and see off Corbynism than anything. I've certainly become incredibly right-wing of late, and found it to be a wonderfully liberating experience overall.
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  425. All contrarian comments are deleted here. Think about that.
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  426. Very similar to 1894 and 1936.
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  427. When the system fails it leads to extremism - but not necessarily towards the right. The Russian revolution springs to mind. Trump isn't a fascist. He is a populist and a conservative who believes strongly in individual freedom. He has been subjected to a constant stream of vilification because he opposes state control, not because he wishes to strengthen it. Unfortunately the propogandists have done a great job - not enough to bet him beaten at the election though. They had to cheat to do that. Welcome to the Brave New World Order and the Great Reset. You have been conned just as thoroughly as Germans were conned by the Nazis in 1932. And he didn't even have to cheat to win HIS election.
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  428.  @BigHenFor  No. What's that got to do with people-trafficking though?
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  429.  @mattgreek1066  For someone named after an invasion you are remarkably broad-minded about this, if I may say so.
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  430. The price of change is always paid in blood?1? Social change in the UK has been achieved by democratic process. Race-baiting seeks to overturn this in order to achieve that BLOODTHIRSTY revolution which Marxism needs in order to justify itself. These two sad old fuckers can carry on their conversation in some other distant realm as far as I'm concerned.
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  431. I very much doubt man-made climate change. And I feel very much the same about as you as you feel about me.
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  432. It rubbed me up the wrong way, I have to say.
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  433.  @DevonExplorer  Try thinking with your head, not your heart. The economy IS human beings for goodness sake! If the economy crashes then many, many people will suffer and many will die. Life is a risky business and no-one gets out of here alive. We should be concentrating on protecting health care workers and doing what we can to ease the passing of the frail and elderly NOT getting into a panic and hiding under the duvet trying to think beautiful thoughts.
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  434.  @dwaynericketts882  I prefer to think of it as cool and rational, you silly boy!
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  435.  @DevonExplorer  I agree with all you say. Those very much at risk of death are, however, elderly in care homes where as well as being frail and vulnerable they are constantly re-infecting each other. I myself am missing grandad duties (a bit!) and would not hesitate to go on holiday with my grandchildren tomorrow were it not for the fact that some officious policeman would arrest us all. Social interaction may well cause the spread of coronavirus but by now evolution should see it weakened. Forcing people to occupy confined spaces and re-infecting each other is what adds to the death toll.
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  436.  @cobbler40  I don't want to die either. Being a porter on a Covid ward must increase the chances ( but not by all that much, I would guess). I'd rather try to persuade managers to institute some sort of staggered shift system (four hours on, six off?) for vulnerable staff plus regular (48hour?) infection checks.
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  437.  @DevonExplorer  I like it when this happens.
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  438. George Monbiot is a saint. The working class poor who voted Tory are too stupid to understand the true meaning of Socialism As quickly as possible these ungrateful racist bigots must be replaced with immigrants more deserving of the munificence and intelligence displayed so unselfishly by the left-wing intelligentsia.
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  439.  @sugerbear586  Thank you. I have read several. We are just arguing terminology. The government bought the slaves from their owners, and then freed them. A commercial transaction. This is different to paying reparations to the descendants of slaves.
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  440. and she was right on both counts.
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  441. @somedeveloperblokey I understand reality very well. Communities, societies etc only exist when a group pf people formally agree that they should do so. Even then the segregation is entirely artificial. If I am a senile black person living in Hackney. for example. what community to I belong to? The senile community? The black community? The Hackney community?
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  442.  @djturbine7565  Communal groups exist. Societies exist. But "society" as a concept covering a country, or the whole of humanity, does not exist.
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  443.  @sososoprano1  The concept of nationhood is clearly important to the process of governance. It is not an abstract thing. It is a reality. It is a political unit. But it is not "society" which is jus an amorphous notion; an abstraction, in other words.
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  444.  @maggiehyder7075  Greed is simply the urge to survive.
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  445.  @andysimons9226  This is hardly central to the initial argument. Society is an abstract notion. A country is not. It has clearly defined legal parameters and a system of governance agreed upon by either force of arms or democratic process.
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  446.  Bell in Da Night  How do you know what a chimp thinks?
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  447.  @RussCR5187  That's where you're wrong. A nation is a defined administrative unit. "Society" and "community" are just vague concepts.
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  448.  @maggiehyder7075  I'm not sure where St Francis describes greed as such, but you could be right. In any case I think it can be safely said that while greed fuels endeavour, excessive greed may have unwelcome consequences!
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  449.  @RussCR5187  I think the difference lies between the definition of "society" as a semi-ephemeral concept and "a society" which is indeed one of several words which can be used to describe an aggregate of people.
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  450.  @djturbine7565  Exists in the abstract? Sure, but an abstract concept has no place in the harsh world of political reality, other than as an idea which can be utilised as some sort of slogan.
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  451.  @sososoprano1  You've got me with "Morris aware". What is that?
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  452.  @capturedflame  No I'm not.
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  453.  @mjc01  Not at all! It is the sweet voice of reason if you listen hard enough!
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  454.  @mjc01  Pathetic, Paul
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  455.  Bell in Da Night  These chimps are clearly socialists!
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  456.  @djturbine7565  The point I am making is the point you make: some concepts are purely conceptual, whereas others have an actual reality.
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  457.  @djturbine7565  You're probably right. I'm not all that intelligent - I just like asking awkward questions.
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  458.  @mjc01  Without greed there would be no progress. Sad but true.
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  459.  @modularsamples  Greed is not synonymous with competition though. Hunter gatherers eat till they burst because they don't know when they're going to get lucky again! Greed is motivation. Capitalism structures that motivation. Greed is good. Capitalism is good.
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  460.  @modularsamples  Then most of us are sentimental fools. And you don't have to be jealous or hateful to be greedy; quite the reverse, more often than not.
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  461.  @thoughtfortheday7811  Hypocrisy and politics go hand in hand, as do credulousness and religious belief. St Francis would have made a poor Prime Minister.
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  462.  @EM-lz9kg  Who is the "we" in this case? I lived under her Prime Ministership too and , being young and foolish, I failed to appreciate her pragmatism. (Incidentally, one of the most unpleasant memories of my childhood was being required to drink a third of a pint of lukewarm milk each morning.)
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  463.  @BigHenFor  Certainly: to four years of lies and vilification from both the mainstream media and the political establishment. Trump has been treated far more badly and unfairly than Corbyn ever was.
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  464.  @musopaul5407  You've got it. Mind you, I think the deregulation and tax cuts proved to be good for the country as a whole, and his foreign policy has been brilliant. With the new administration we can expect to see America go back to its warmongering ways and for taxes to soar.
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  465.  @MrThorfan64  In what way? He revived the economy, reduced unemployment to near zero, pulled out American troops from all over the world and brokered peace deals in the Middle East. You have been brainwashed by the crooked political establishment which now back in power. Cue soaring taxation and wars.
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  466.  @MrThorfan64  It wasn't even remotely a coup. More brainwashing. It was a demo. His tax cuts boosted the economy to a huge degree. The US healthcare system is a joke and needs total re-organisation. Stopping big pharma from making big profits by overcharging for medicines is another of Trump's achievements.
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  467.  @MrThorfan64  But he did none of these things! More brainwashing. Give me a single credible example! He did, however, sanction gay marriage as well as introduce programs designed to get mainly black people given excessive jail sentences their freedom. What about Walkaway with thousands of black people getting out of the Democrat plantation? You and many like you have been suckered by the media who are in cahoots with the corrupt political establishment, now sadly back in power.
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  468.  @MrThorfan64  But surely this is just an adjustment to legislation brought in by the Trump administration in the first place? I mean, is this all you've got? It's scarcely as though he want the alphabet people dragged away to be shot, is it? As far as I can make out he is throwing a sop to his ultra-religious supporters who believe they have found some details in the legislation which discriminate in favour of same-sex parents. A sensitive area, but to suggest that this indicates anti-gay prejudice on Trump's part is ridiculous.
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  469.  @MrThorfan64  What does it say other than I like to choose my own jargon, rather than have it forced on me by others? I have no problem whatsoever with people of differing sexual orientations. Sticking together a string of initials and claiming a "community" exists is political and has nothing to do with the way people ought to get along with one another. And I can never quite remember what the initials are anyway.
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  470.  @marmadukescarlet7791  Curses! You have found me out, you swine!
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  471.  @GTJWilding  What nuances? Is she saying anything other than free speech is a good thing - not just for moral reasons, but because the cancel culture will eventually do harm to the Socialist cause? Are you implying she might be suggesting that only when power is gained should opposing viewpoints and iconography be destroyed, as was Lenin's contention I believe? Do share. You must not keep all these profound insights to yourself.
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  472. Are we supposed to just hide in our holes until rescued by the warriors of reason and socialist virtue? I only ask because I'd like to know.
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  473. nigel jones You will be rewarded in heaven.
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  474. Ice man A movement over the edge of a cliff. Perhaps he was a Koch brothers shill all the time!
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  475. Moxy1 And nothing for that nice Mr Bercow I think it's jolly unfair.
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  476. The BBC lies to push forward a political agenda Murdoch lies to make a buck or two. If you analyse his products you will see they are given considerable editorial freedom. He doesn't care all that much what they say as long as they hold their niche in the market and turn a profit.
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  477. It really isn't these people. They are victims too - victims of power-mad religious loonies they just can't seem to get rid of.
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  478. And he is himself an oligarch of course - or at the very least the puppet of one.
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  479.  @michaelgrey1351  And how permanent is the elimination? And at what cost has it been achieved? Your population is heavily non-immune and you will have to keep returning to extreme lockdown until such time as a safe and effective vaccine is widely available. (And Covid 19 doesn't kill everyone. Just those who immune systems are weak. In the UK most deaths have been in people in their nineties and late eighties.)
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  480.  @Madyetmellow  And we can expect deaths from respiratory illnesses (predominantly Covid 19) to increase until the New Year at which point they can be expected to decline at about the same rate as they have increased since September.
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  481. @Dean Clark Here are the latest provisional figures from ONS. As you will see the mortality rate is above the five year average, but only slightly above that of 2018. I have also included stats from the Institute of Actuaries which puts things in a long term historical perspective. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending20november2020 https://www.actuaries.org.uk/learn-and-develop/continuous-mortality-investigation/other-cmi-outputs/mortality-monito
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  482.  @michaelgrey1351  You are not immune unless, as is increasingly likely to be the case in SE Asian countries, there is a natural immunity to Covid 19 in Australasia due to resistance built up to previous covids. I will concur, however, that it is possible that the strict lockdown may have been beneficial simply because it was put into place before Covid 19 arrived in quantity. In the UK we keep shutting and opening the gate long after the beast has got into the fold, which is pointless. What is undeniable is that the economic impact on Victoria has been huge - to say nothing of having to put up with the ghastly Gestapo tactics employed by the police. Too high a price to pay for what may well be just be a case of kicking the can further down the road.
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  483. Adam In your mind
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  484. Adam Watch a few more comic movies. It'll take your mind off things.
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  485. chris jones She is run by a hedge fund company pretending to be an environmentalist group. It's called We Don't Have Time. Go to their website and much will be revealed to you.
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  486. Is there any evidence that Johnson has blamed BME people for the epidemic? All I can find is quotes from one Tory MP who appears to suggest that crowding people together in sweatshops is not a good idea. The fact that most of these people are of Pakistani or Bengladeshi origin is irrelevant - other than the fact that their ethnicity makes them more likely to die of the disease. .
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  487. You need help.
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  488. Arcarsenal Needs some very serious editing - otherwise not bad. Word of warning: detailed predictions should be avoided. Keep them more vague so when they don't come true you can wriggle out more easily.
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  489. As an AGW denying shrieking idiot I strongly deny I have been created by a media owner. Like most in my class my suspicions have been aroused over the years by the fact that absolutely none of the creed's dire predictions have come to pass, nor ever seem likely to.
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  490.  @jonc67uk  But these events are nothing new. Tens of thousands of people have died in heatwaves all over the world since time immemorial. Forests have always burned. They have to in order to promote new growth. Floods have always occurred. The world is certainly warming, but that is part of a natural process and this has been happening since the mid 19th century when it was colder than it had been for ten thousand years; and it has been happening, as always, in fits and starts and with no relationship whatsoever with man-made carbon emissions.
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  491.  @jonc67uk  And a foolish and cowardly thought, if I may say so. For a start the petrochemical industry spends billions of dollars investing in green energy projects and very little, if any, on supporting doubters and cynics who question the AGW hypothesis. Your attitude is typical. Like any other religious maniac you cannot bear the thought of heresy. That's the real problem here.
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  492.  @jonc67uk  No. I'm actually a high grade Russian bot on permanent loan to Rupert Murdoch.
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  493.  @jonc67uk  I must apologise. I didn't realise rain was a new thing and it didn't happen until this month. The 250 people who died in flooding in Nebraska in 1935, and the millions of others who have died in floods across the world were obviously hallucinating.
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  494.  @jonc67uk  The frequency of such events is not increasing. Loss of life in natural disasters is a fraction of what it was in the first half of the last century And why should producing energy contribute to climate change? Heat rises into space and while cloud formations certainly reflect some of it back to the surface this is not a "greenhouse". It is more like a very thin and very tattered net. It has been much hotter, much rainier and much windier in both the recent and distant past than it is now. If I had any doubt that AGW is not a scam that would be immediately overcome by the fact that "scientists" have destroyed all records before 1970 or so and replaced them with made-up ones designed to fit their theories.
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  495. Ice Man I fear I may have misjudged you. You are clearly a Koch brothers troll seeking to undermine the Left by double-bluff. Well done!
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  496. Redthirst It's purely academic question now, thank God. I suppose the idea of replacing capital ownership with bureaucracy is at the heart of my objections; although I regard such novelties as intersectionality and positive discrimination with utter scorn. Labour's pro-Muslim, anti-Jewish prejudices are another factor. The fact that its policies are often based on some half-arsed principle of virtue signalling niceness rather than pragmatism is worrying too. Just because an idea makes you feel warm and fluffy inside doesn't make it a good idea as such.
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  497. Hoxton Dave I also get the impression that the BBC hierarchy is somehow very YOUNG as well as foolish. It seems to be run by spoiled brats for the most part. There are also probably too many women occupying positions for which genitalia is an irrelevant qualification.
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  498. This is so weird! I cannot abide UK media because it always seems to biased towards the Left! I have to go down under for UK news - to Sky News Australia, one of the few MSM channels that seems to have escaped socialist indoctrination. And if the BBC is so biased towards the Tories why do they now want to stop the licence fee?
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  499.  alex kennedy  Too messy. What right do the ignorant bastards have to argue about anything anyway? They should just do as they're told or face the consequences.
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  500.  alex kennedy  But he is not a socialist - or any kind of ist except possibly a narcissist. In his very, very interesting book "The Alchemy of Finance" he makes this quite clear. Having suffered under both fascism and communism he will have nothing to with either of them. What I mean to say is that he is not , I think, motivated by idealism or a moralistic desire for change. As you say, I think he does what he does more or less for the fun of it. Toying with the world is an expression of his genius - and he is a genius, of that there is no doubt. As I expect you know he wanted to be a philosopher, but was rejected by the academic establishment and so turned his discoveries on the concept of reflexivity to practical use, initially to making money in vast and improbable quantities and latterly towards establishing himself as god on earth. He may also want to lever the yuan to short the dollar before he dies -who knows? No. I think he is far too intelligent to be a socialist. PS. Thanks for the link. God, this guy is such an enigma!
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  501.  @eduardocajias5626  Soros is impossible to fathom. I think he may be one of the most intelligent people ever to have lived and there is no way of telling what he is playing at. The only thing you can be sure of is if you think you know, you are wrong! (I have actually grown to quite like Donald Trump. It was an uphill struggle but he has been so maligned and falsely accused that he has aroused my sympathy, and indeed my admiration to a certain extent. Soros is several million times richer and cleverer, but the Donald really is a man of the people. He has considerable cunning and fortitude and is really just an ordinary guy who was born into riches and has done what many other ordinary guys would have done in his position. That's why ordinary guys (and gals) like him so much.)
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  502. @Don Doodat "Cognitive dissonance"? You forgot the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Instead of trying to be smart, just take a moment to ask yourself who benefits from this war. Putin certainly doesn't, much less the people of Ukraine. The beneficiaries are that "cabal of warmongers" in Washington who have engineered the whole scenario from the start. By supporting Zelensky you are supporting them and the Ukrainian oligarchs who pull his strings. This is a war between villains, not some kind of battle between good and evil. The swiftest and most rational way to end it is to grant the more modest of these villains his not unreasonable demands.
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  503. Dan Snikliw That's odd. At most demonstrations it always seems to me that the Left are far more expensively catered for, bannerwise. George Soros is quite rich I believe.
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  504. Instead of compensating people for the effects of on and off lockdowns, money should have been spent on acquiring and training ICU nurses. Several peer-reviewed studies have shown that lockdowns do little if anything to reduce death rates - but they do buy time to allow you to build up sufficient resources to care for borderline cases and put them back on the road to health. It wouldn't matter if these trained nurses spent nine months of the year arranging flowers and making Tic Toc videos, they would be a cheaper and more efficacious option than lockdowns.
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  505.  @saoirsehaslonglegs2313  Nothing against nurses There just aren't enough of them trained to ICU standards, that's all.
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  506.  @saoirsehaslonglegs2313  None taken, I assure you.
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  507. Tom c You sound very angry, You should try to get richer if you can. I think that is what is the matter with you.
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  508. @duncan hackett Was Trump's father an oligarch?
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