Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "Why Labour Lost: Oligarchs are Gaming Democracy 💰🗳 | George Monbiot" video.

  1. waxed link How curious it is that you believe the MSM is biased to the right! I'm very right-wing and it seems exactly the opposite to me! I have to go all the way to Sky News Australia to get coverage untainted by socialist self-righteousness and pomposity.
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  2. ujean56 ...stick you head in the sand! Put your fingers in your ears and go "wibble wibble wibble"! Surrender all pretensions to reasoned thought! Listen only to things that make you feel warm and fluffy inside! Accept it when you are told you are too poor and stupid and working-class to be able exercise critical judgement! Stay true to Socialism!
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  3. waxed link Which is a great deal better than them being aided and abetted by biased left-wing media. If the people in power read the Guardian we would all be dead by now. In Britain we are having a quiet revolution and sending socialism to its long-awaited rest. That nice Mr Murdoch has played very little part in this I do assure you. We reaiised ourselves what a bunch of self-righteous, patronising pricks the Labour party are all by ourselves, just by listening to them.
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  4. Geffo Me But the Guardian and the Independent do exactly the same thing!
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  5. Ian Graves You're an idiot, and brainwashed too. I don't need Murdoch and Tory billionaires to tell me how to think. I look at Corbyn and his support for the IRA and anti-Israel terrorist groups. I see Labour conferences where the Union flag is scorned and the Palestinian flag is waved instead, I hear Corbyn outline his insane, suicidal pipe-dream policies and I see my country being led into a cesspit. I don't even READ mainstream newspapers and rarely watch mainstream TV. I scour the Internet, giving everyone a chance to convince me. If Socialism has convinced you then you are either incredibly naive or the victim of some weird guilt-complex.And also an idiot.
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  6. Simon Colbeck Are we living on the same planet? I don't read the Sun or the Mail and when I watch the BBC it seems so riddled with LEFT-WING bias that I find myself in support of the RIGHT-WINGERS calling for the licence fee to be abolished. UKIP called for this because of BBC bias. The right-wing populist channels I watch call for its abolition for this very reason. What has the BBC done to upset all you guys?
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  7. MsimpK16 Has it ever occurred to you that climate change hysteria comes very much into the scenario you have outlined? Millions believe that the poles are melting when they are not or that islands are being drowned when they are not, or that reefs are dying when they are not. Compared with these huge lies currently being promoted for political ends tittle-tattle about Corbyn is neither here nor there.
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  8. Astrid Maclean Then we are in agreement. Pity, I was quite looking forward to a bit of a row.
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  9. Geffo Me No they're not you idiot. The real "rocket scientists" hold the climatology department in utter contempt. So much so that in 2012 a while bunch of them, including former astronauts, petitioned the UN asking them not to take any notice of the wild predictions their brainwashed colleagues were making. NASA climate scientists tell lies for a living.
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  10. Anthony Cook We are not fucked, many of us are brainwashed though. Australian fires have got as bad as they are largely because Green policies in the huge national parks have led to traditional methods of fire control being abandoned. Air temperature doesn't enter into it. How can it? There is also the suspicion that arson by extremists trying to push the hysteria is to blame, but personally I find this hard to believe. Flooding in England is perfectly normal There is nothing exceptional here. Temperature charts are faked, New methods and new equipment invariably show hotter than old-style thermometers.This allows climate scientists to dismiss previous readings as "inaccurate". The old records often show temperatures far hotter than those of today. In Australia many people are puzzled because their porch thermometers show temperatures up to 10c below those they see on weather reports. Climate science is full of sheep who have to believe what they are told to believe. They are given pre-packed data and pre-programmed computer models to work on, so invariably reach the same results. Raw data is kept secret. Computer programs are under licence and technical details cannot be revealed. Why is all this going on? The answers are to be found in considerable financial gain and the exercise of totalitarian political control. Have you heard of the carbon futures market? That's just a start.
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  11.  @fredatlas4396  The Left lies just as much, if not more, you know. Just judge by results.
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  12. Uk Gamer Islamaphobia is a funny word. I and many other people in this country find radical Islam utterly terrifying. That doesn't mean we dislike Muslims. Priti Patel is an excellent Home Secretary. I don't know what you mean about her hiding away during Trump's visit. I was referring to the Chancellor of the Exchequer Sajid Javid - another excellent member of the Government - and not to Sadiq Khan the Mayor of London, who is a ghastly little shit.
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  13. Uk Gamer I see your point and agree entirely. The trouble is that, apart from the very sensible fear of Islamic terrorism there is a real possibility that Muslims will stop being a minority before long. Birth rates and immigration are leading to a steady rise and some predict a Muslim majority by 2050. I don't see that myself but, with all due respect, I don't relish the prospect of your religion dominating my country at any time. Even without the terrorism aspect there is much about Islam that I and many others find distasteful - the attitude towards non-Muslim minorities, for example. Does this make us Islamaphobes? I think not, for it is not bigotry and blind hatred which motivates us, but a genuine fear for the cultural and political future of our homeland.
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  14. michael welby Distinct signs of paranoia I think. The oligarchs will be crawling out of the walls soon.
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  15. Astrid Maclean Britain's educational institutions, especially teacher training colleges and universities, are hotbeds of socialist propaganda. Apart from London the majority of Labour supporting areas were university towns. I only hope that some time over the next ten years this Conservative government will be able to restore the balance.
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  16. BigHenFor Where did you learn all that bollocks? Not in the real world I bet.
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  17. James D Robertson Oxford and Cambridge both bucked the national trend at the General Election and returned their sitting Labour MPs. I did say "socialist propaganda" not "socialist thought", by the way. I was going to shout "Oxymoron!" at this point, but that would be a little unkind.
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  18. James D Robertson You obviously graduated from the University of Call Everything I Don't Like Fascist, A relentlessly easy trope if there ever was one.
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  19. James D Robertson All the best for the coming New Era, Jim Seasons Gloatings from all at Number Ten
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  20. James D Robertson Eat my shorts.
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  21. Geffo Me You've been sold a gold brick my friend. Climate scientists aren't real scientists. If they were the raw data they use and the computer programs and models they employ would be available for independent verification. But they're not. If they were real scientists they wouldn't have to remove and alter data to fit the AGW narrative. But they do. If they were real scientists they would get out of the lab more often. They could try to get to the north pole on an icebreaker say. But they can't because the ice is so thick this winter that even the biggest toughest icebreakers can hardly move, The Odin, Sweden's largest icebreaker is currently making less that three knots. They might take a trip to the Marshall Islands which are supposed to have gone under the waves for the past twenty years but are still miraculously there. The list goes on and on. You may or not be nuts, but you are certainly very gullible and very, very stupid.
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  22. Geffo Me Hullo! Hullo! Anyone home? What windmills? You mean those fucking great monstrosities that despoil the countryside, kill birds, are made of plastic in foreign countries and have steel and concrete foundations the size of city blocks? The ones that come into operation with a carbon bill then can never hope to repay? Or was it the windmills of you mind you were referring to? LOL Man you are STUPID!
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  23. Stephen Paul We are playing fantasy here, but a referendum would have almost certainly been called and with the same result. The UKIP MPs would have seen Brexit through The German position is entirely different. The EU is their construct and other nations are their vassals. Does the AfD demand an end to the EU or Germany's withdrawal by the way? I only ask because I simply do not know.
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  24. Adam God, you're a miserable bastard! Cheer up, it might never happen!
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  25. Paul Blackburn I don't think the workers are either.
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  26. Plant Fuelled A repressive Stalinist bureaucratic dictatorship in other words? Oh no though. PR would mean Tommy Robinson could form his own party and get a couple of seats in the House of Commons. I'm warming to the idea. By the way, it may have slipped your notice but Tony Blair has already reformed the House of Lords He replaced most of the hereditary peers with arse-lickers who couldn't get elected in the Commons. The Tories have been forced to follow suit to match the numbers. It was better in the old days really.
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  27. Plant Fuelled Ah! How much simpler it would be if we could vote purely on a candidate's hairstyle or beard! I welcome the day. To hell with political judgement and suchlike nonsense. Proprep will give us a full array of everything from plaits to a full Jehovah! What could possibly go wrong?
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  28. Plant Fuelled We could do it according to who tells the best jokes. How does that sound? Everyone from Bernard Manning to Russell Howard.
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  29. The oligarchs (whoever they are) don't need fake news to undermine socialism. We "poor people", as you toffee-nosed Commies call us, know our lives will be richer and safer when we are ruled by people who know what they're doing, rather than by a bunch of half-arsed intellectuals with grandiose ideas.
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  30. Dulce periculim Tommy Robinson was in the BNP for about five minutes. He quit when he took one of his many black mates along and they wouldn't let him in. Tommy Robinson is not a racist. He just greatly fears the spread of radical Islam. So do I.
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  31. Russell Newton Don't sit well with us poor folk neither.
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  32. Grey Wolf How does one get to be an oligarch I wonder?
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  33. Jared Garbo But there must bec a lot of work involved. Being an oligarch must be pretty stressful and time-consuming. Why don't they just play golf and stuff?
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  34. Grey Wolf Then no nice, warm-hearted cuddly oligarchs then?
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  35. This is horrifying. The defeated left seems to be transitioning from mere delusion into raging paranoia. The oligarchs (whoever they are) don't need fake news to undermine socialism. Ordinary sensible, uncomplicated people are sick to death of its patronising self-righteousness. Us "poor people", as you toffee-nosed Commies call us, know our lives will be safer and richer when we are governed by people who know what they're doing, rather than by a bunch of half-arsed intellectuals with grandiose ideas. You are living in a dream world. You'll just have to accept that we don't want to enter into your fantasies. Its game over. Get used to it.
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  36. Kim Shepherd On the contrary, laws of libel in the UK are incredibly strict. Once you start conflating interpretation with fact you are on a slippery slope towards state censorship. But perhaps that's what you want?
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  37. Adam Dear me, you do have quite a chip on you shoulder, don't you old chap?
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  38. Stephen Paul Spot on! With proportional representation UKIP would have had sufficient MPs to help ensure a smooth transition into Brexit without all this fuss!
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  39. Stephen Paul Well we'll never really know, will we? I think nationalistic German imperialism was buried under the rubble by the 1950s. It still existed on paper though - in the form of a plan drawn up by the Nazis in 1939 , much of which formed the basis for the earliest efforts towards European unification.
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  40. Stephen Paul Probably so! It is a thing though, but how real a thing I don't know. I'll try to check it out.
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  41. skyblaze eterno Ah yes. It was called Europische Wirtshafts Gemeinschaft, roughly the same as European Economic Community. It was produced in 1942 when the Germans thought they were going to win and were planning how to run Europe. It was written by economists and bankers under the leadership of Prof Walter Funk, Hitler's economics minister and President of the Reichsbank. There were sections on agriculture, industry communications etc and made provisions for a harmonised currency system. There are those who say that this document bears remarkable similarities to the provisions of the 1957 Treaty of Rome which of course kicked off the EEC. Without the tedious task of placing the two side by side it is difficult to say how much truth there is in this. It's an interesting thought though.
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  42. atomic critter But with plenty of meat in it.
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  43.  @fredatlas4396  What is?
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  44. Uk Gamer The Chancellor and the Home Secretary are both Muslim. What are you worrying about?
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  45. frostek I hadn't heard this. What's the juice???
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  46. stephen elkington I guess I am. I certainly voted Conservative in the recent election; but that was more to help hasten Brexit and see off Corbynism than anything. I've certainly become incredibly right-wing of late, and found it to be a wonderfully liberating experience overall.
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  47. George Monbiot is a saint. The working class poor who voted Tory are too stupid to understand the true meaning of Socialism As quickly as possible these ungrateful racist bigots must be replaced with immigrants more deserving of the munificence and intelligence displayed so unselfishly by the left-wing intelligentsia.
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  48. Adam In your mind
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  49. Adam Watch a few more comic movies. It'll take your mind off things.
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  50. Redthirst It's purely academic question now, thank God. I suppose the idea of replacing capital ownership with bureaucracy is at the heart of my objections; although I regard such novelties as intersectionality and positive discrimination with utter scorn. Labour's pro-Muslim, anti-Jewish prejudices are another factor. The fact that its policies are often based on some half-arsed principle of virtue signalling niceness rather than pragmatism is worrying too. Just because an idea makes you feel warm and fluffy inside doesn't make it a good idea as such.
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  51. Hoxton Dave I also get the impression that the BBC hierarchy is somehow very YOUNG as well as foolish. It seems to be run by spoiled brats for the most part. There are also probably too many women occupying positions for which genitalia is an irrelevant qualification.
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  52. Dan Snikliw That's odd. At most demonstrations it always seems to me that the Left are far more expensively catered for, bannerwise. George Soros is quite rich I believe.
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