Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "" video.

@31Blaize Who took part in these discussions? As far as I can recall discussions following the failure of the Minsk accords resulted in a treaty ready to be signed in Istanbul, but which was not signed because Western agents, notably our very own Boris Johnson, persuaded Zelensky to go to war instead. And Putin did not get try to take Kiev. The whole exercise was designed to decimate the Ukrainian army on its own territory - which it did.
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Russia's quarrel with Ukraine has got Western leaders losing their minds -and none more so than Macron who once seemed conciliatory towards Russia and dubious about NATO. Russia presents no threat whatsoever to Europe that I can see. The very fact that we have to pretend that Putin is Hitler and that 2024 is like 1939 in order to justify this paranoia seems to indicate that the fears are artificial - and that there are other motives behind these distasteful displays of jingoism.
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@LordDim1 Ukraine is not a democracy. It is an oligarchy, same as Russia. Neither is it fighting a war of survival. All it has to do is give Russia back the bits of Russia which were mistakenly included in it in 1991 and the war is over.
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Why not? Be democratic in your own country if you like, but trying to export it to other countries is just colonialism.
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@Calvito- I am not a troll nor a Russian. I am a concerned British citizen fearful of seeing my country dragged into a needless war with an imagined adversary. The war in Ukraine is a quarrel over mineral rights which should not concern us in any way. The collapse of the Soviet Union was partly due to being over-extended in an unwelcoming Europe - so why on earth would the Russian Federation want to make the same mistake?
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What has WWII got to do with anything?
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@Boghopper9999 It never does. Not exactly. There are always differences which are generally more significant than the similarities, which is why historical analogies are so dangerous.
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No it's 2024. Wake up.
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@Rene-pn4kb You've got me mixed up with someone else on this thread. I never referred to Macron as "little Napoleon". Nor did I use WTF. I dislike these computerspeak acronyms.
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@Rene-pn4kb Fully accepted. I've done similar things myself!
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Has anyone tried?
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From what? Putin? What makes you think he could care less how free you are or how democratic?
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@janickpauwels3792 How about you get out of the world as it was, and the world as it might be, and start trying to deal with the world as it is?
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@janickpauwels3792 What needs to be done? Get ourselves all worked up about a threat that isn't there? That's the way wars start. (Do what needs to be done sounds remarkably sinister, by the way.)
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@rocketscience4516 Put another record on, Rocket. You can do better than this! You'll be accusing me of being a Kremlin troll next.
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@rocketscience4516 What do you mean "go to bed?" I've just got up!
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@rocketscience4516 "Early to bed and early to rise Makes a man heathy, wealthy and wise".
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@rocketscience4516 You seem a bit off form today, Rocket. Your insults are usually pithier than this. Perhaps you're not getting enough sleep?
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@rocketscience4516 Now that's more like it!
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@bobjohnbowles Not in the minds of true poets.
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@adrianbell6041 You make my point exactly. By imagining Putin to be like Hitler you completely fail to understand the true situation we face at present. He does not " constantly invade other countries." He merely fights to retain control over counties already within Russia's sphere of influence. Do you not understand that by selling us the idea that Putin wants to act like Hitler and take over the world we are being manipulated into supporting the American war machine? Hitler was in his fifties. Putin is in his seventies. Hitler had declared his intentions of expanding Germany and of massacring the Jews. Putin, in his writings, has declared that while it might be a fine, romantic notion to restore the Russian Empire, it is neither possible nor even desirable to do so. But he will not allow the West to encroach upon his country's interests by a strategy of divide and conquer, as it is doing now. By allowing yourself to be manipulated as you are you are supporting the worst and most vicious capitalist state ever to come into being.
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@jean-pascalesparceil9008 Putin doesn't want Ukraine. He just wants Crimea and Donbass for their mineral wealth and their function as buffer states.
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@Rene-pn4kb The West is exporting democracy - as a cover for colonialism.
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@hayleyxyz By giving the new country of Ukraine the same borders as the former Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine a very serious error was indeed made. Crimea and much of Eastern Ukraine had been added on to the territory during the Soviet era for purely administrative reasons. They had large Russian populations and large investment their mineral resources, which had been developed by and staffed by Russians. The whole area previous to this had largely been occupied by Tatars - not Ukrainians. This problem was not too serious up until 2014 when Ukraine decided (or was persuaded) to hitch itself to the Western waggon. This meant that the benefits of these industries would pass out of Russian hands. No treaty lasts forever and The Budapest Accords were flawed from the start and despite best effort a peaceful resolution has sadly not been possible. All in all a pretty big mistake, I feel.
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@jean-pascalesparceil9008 Russia doesn't want Ukraine. Far too much trouble. It just wants Donbass as a buffer state.
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@Rene-pn4kb America is exporting democracy.
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@Rene-pn4kb But I'm a Russian troll. Of course I've been there!
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@jean-pascalesparceil9008 Well, apparently it does.
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@Rene-pn4kb How. Me name Big Chief Crockerdale.
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@Rene-pn4kb Well I haven't actually. It was a sort of joke. Have you been to Crimea or Donbass though? They appear to be vastly different in character to Kiev and the rest of Western Ukraine. I imagine people who have visited London 50 times might think they know Britain, but they don't.
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@jean-pascalesparceil9008 I think you will find that the quote goes on to say that "neither do other civilisations." Rather than being a declaration of intent, this is a declaration of historical fact. Civilisations do not have borders. They expand or contract according to circumstances. Attempts to draw rigid lines on maps and award the areas they contain the spurious title of "sovereign" is merely a ploy by one particular modern-day empire (scarcely a civilisation) to establish its hold on the world. I have read Putin's essay on the relations between Russia and Ukraine and I take the liberty of quoting from its introduction. This statement seems to me to have the ring of truth. "First of all, I would like to emphasize that the wall that has emerged in recent years between Russia and Ukraine, between the parts of what is essentially the same historical and spiritual space, to my mind is our great common misfortune and tragedy. These are, first and foremost, the consequences of our own mistakes made at different periods of time. But these are also the result of deliberate efforts by those forces that have always sought to undermine our unity. The formula they apply has been known from time immemorial – divide and rule. There is nothing new here. Hence the attempts to play on the ”national question“ and sow discord among people, the overarching goal being to divide and then to pit the parts of a single people against one another."
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@Rene-pn4kb I don't deny you your right to an opinion, but I defend my right to disagree with it. Perhaps you would be kind enough to point out my exact areas of ignorance so that I may either correct or deny them to be such.
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@jean-pascalesparceil9008 I don't see why it would go to such trouble. Buffer states on immediate borders, certainly.(After all that was Putin's plan for Donbass) but he is wise enough to know that even trying to rule Ukraine will result in an endless civil war. Putin has learned from the SU's mistakes - which is why it is so bizarre that we should think he plans to repeat them.
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Is that really his election slogan? Do you have a source?
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@Hiltok Thanks for that. Putin has said it too apparently, both in an article and a TV interview - but he has immediately qualified it by saying "no civilisation's does." By this I imagine he is trying to counteract this idea of "national sovereignty" which Ukraine's supporters use to laud the Budapest accords, insisting that if a treaty sets borders, those borders last forever. This is clearly a nonsense, as history illustrates many times.
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@31Blaize Remind me.
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@31Blaize I think we are at cross-purposes. I meant meaningful discussions prior to the event, not hysterical phone calls when it became clear that the invasion was practically inevitable. At that time what needed to be done was to assure Putin that the terms of the Minsk Accords would immediately be attended to and he would have left his troops at the border. Instead, gripped by war fever, the West sent the poor Ukrainians to their doom. The tragedy is that it now seems more than likely that Putin will actually achieve objectives in excess of his original demands, and tens of thousands will have died to no purpose,
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@handarokadath1515 Ae you a bit dim? To suggest that Putin gives a damn about how any other country rules itself or how much freedom its people have is just plain ridiculous.
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@coolbanana165 All Putin wants are the highly Russianised and mineral-rich parts of Ukraine mistakenly included in the newly-created country of Ukraine. He doesn't even want the whole of Ukraine, let alone other bits of Europe. He know full well that such expansionism led, in great part, to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Why would he want the Russian Federation to make the same mistake?
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Yup. He'll stop the war in Ukraine and stop Washington war pigs from starting another one. What a disaster!
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@Calvito- I am not a troll nor Russian. I am a concerned British citizen fearful of seeing my country being dragged into a needless war. Quarrel, yes. This is an argument over mineral rights which could have been settled relatively amicably if the US and its allies had not interfered with an eye to laying hands on the mineral wealth of Donbass. Threat to Europe? No. No way. Why should the Russian Federation wish to emulate the errors of the Soviet Union? Putin is far too sensible for such adventuring and has clearly said so. Look at the trouble he's having taking back a tiny corner of Ukraine. How can you possibly imagine he has either the will or the capability needed to invade Europe???
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@emm_arr If that's obvious to you then you are a fool - because I am not. Is your case so weak that you cannot comprehend that someone might disagree with you BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE WITH YOU???
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@janickpauwels3792 How about you get out of the world that was and the world as it might be and look more carefully at the world as it is? All Putin wants are the mineral resources in Crimea and Donbass to which - quite justifiably - he feels Russia is entitled. He was happy to obtain them by peaceful means but has been forced into war by Western intransigence. It is extremely doubtful that he has any further ambitions, but if he does we must meet them as they come and not allow their remote possibility to colour our behaviour. (I didn't vote for Brexit, but I support it now simply because the EU's global political ambitions have been a major factor in sparking this bloody and needless war.)
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@emm_arr Idiot. You're the troll and I'm falling for it!
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