Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "" video.

The more cases there are the better, since this leads to herd immunity. As long as hospitalisations and deaths remain relatively low then this is clearly the strategy to follow.
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@d.russellmoros7841 Herd immunity is the only way. Masks and other measures do not seem particularly effective, and nor do vaccines. A recent study has shown that US counties with highest vaccination rates have the highest rates of transmission. Now look at Florida: castigated for refusing to introduce mandates and where now case numbers are plummeting. Covid is with us forever. Immunity via infection is the only way to contain it.
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@Yeknodathon Have you seen the figures for the decline in cases in the US yet? Or the study which shows that countries and US counties with the highest vaccination rates have the highest rates of transmission? The trouble with you and your ilk is that you confuse medical opinion with Big Pharma propaganda.
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@zam1007 You are confusing Big Pharma propaganda with medical fact. The number of re-infections is minimal. In England, for instance, there were just 53 proven cases up until the end of June. What the current numbers are I don't know but they can scarcely be that dramatic. Infection creates immunity and the more people who are infected the quicker the herd immunity threshold is passed. To pretend otherwise is merely to play Big Pharma's profit game. While reducing symptoms, vaccinations hold up this process. This is clearly shown in a recent study of 68 countries and some 2,000 US counties which reveals that those with the highest vaccination rates are frequently those with the highest levels of transmission.
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The reason double infections are not in a separate category is that the number is so small as to be statistically insignificant.
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I thought cases in the US were falling rapidly. Is this not true?
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@d.russellmoros7841 Even if what you say is true (which it isn't) the situation in most countries has now got far beyond any hope of eliminating covid completely. Neither can any trustworthy evidence be found for any of the measures you mention having any substantial or long-term effect on spread. China's data is totally untrustworthy and in any case there is mounting evidence that large parts of Asian populations have built-in partial immunity due to historic exposure t similar covids which did not reach Europe. The very fact that you are among those who seek to gain cheap political points through criticism of a country's response proves the fragility of your argument. Herd immunity is the only option. All you do by denying this is allow drug companies to prolong the pandemic while making even more obscene profits.
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@d.russellmoros7841 Some nations' data seems more trustworthy than others. China and the US are both at the top of the list when it comes to massaging figures -which I am sure you must admit is quite easily done. All that aside, I would agree that official responses have inclined to extend the pandemic. The virus will circumvent all but the most draconian prevention measures, and the half-arsed and confused strategies generally undertaken have merely extended the period required for the virus to achieve what it has evolved to achieve - the infection of as many hosts as possible. As for "herd immunity" the term is so ill-defined in many people's minds that I am glad to see it becoming replaced with the more neutral "endemic equilibrium." This is now predicted to occur in many countries quite soon. Basically it just means that sufficient people are now immune in these countries to cut down infection pathways to such an extent that many circulating viruses become non-viable before they can find a new host to infect. Cautious optimism is justified, I think. Case numbers are going to fall in the UK and the US and elsewhere and the gap between cases and severe outcomes will grow even wider. We are the stage now when compulsory vaccination is as mad as lockdowns and masking always have been; namely by introducing temporary barriers to the expansion of the virus they merely put off the inevitable - a condition whereby the virus becomes the victim of its own success and runs out of readily available people to infect. Herd immunity, really.
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@grateberk6435 Only some of them.
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@zam1007 We have herd immunity to many things. It is a common misconception that "herd immunity" means wiping out a disease. It doesn't. It just means that the numbers become manageable.
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@zam1007 I know exactly what herd immunity is. It is a condition whereby an outbreak of a disease can be readily contained because a sufficiently large proportion of the population is immune to it. What do you think it is?
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It is because there are so few of them Up until June there were 53 confirmed re-infections in England and fewer than ten in the other UK countries.
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@landsgevaer Even this figure is uncertain. With PCR tests showing a 1 in 14 false positive rate, either of the two positives could be incorrect. The number is just too small to have any meaning. The fact is the drug companies want to make it look as though you can get re-infected easily. It's quite astonishing how many people believe this.
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@landsgevaer The number of reinfections is included, although not as a separate category. It is simply not statistically significant. Drug companies are mendacious beyond belief. Any information which may reduce their profits is suppressed. The idea that natural immunity is superior to vaccinated semi-immunity is obviously something which falls into this category. Covids and influenzas differ greatly- which is why it has been so difficult to create anti-covid vaccines. I am not an anti-vaxxer, it's just that their role in this instance seems to be limited and could even be counter-productive in the long run. We are already seeing case numbers falling in some countries and US states where vaccine take-up has not been high, which is indicative of this.
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