Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "" video.

  1. @Mark B What's vile about it? If the friend did die after a second infection it would be a very significant development in the progress of the disease and a matter of great public concern.
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  2. Healthy people should abandon masks immediately. If you are double vaccinated a dose of covid will vastly increase your immunity at the cost of little more than a runny nose.
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  3. The conference will go ahead and many delegates will be unmasked. If you are healthy and double-vaccinated a dose of covid will vastly increase your immunity at the cost of little more than a runny nose.
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  4. Keep following. This channel provides a fascinating insight into the mindset of the logically-challenged leftie.
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  5.  @Chrishagen  I've never worn a mask. They are more or less totally useless.
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  6. The majority of those who will died this winter will do so because pre-existing conditions have not been treated properly. When the butchers' bill is drawn up it will show that lockdowns have killed many times more people than covid itself.
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  7.  @Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle  Hopefully they are double-vaccinated too. If not, that's sort of their fault. People in vulnerable categories should continue to isolate -if they wish to.
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  8. I would be interested to know your source for this information. There are currently 928 covid patients occupying ventilator beds in the UK, and as far as I am aware none is under the age of 18. I am fully prepared to be corrected, however.
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  9. This is odd since the number of people who have even had covid twice is miniscule and your friend's death has not yet appeared in government statistics for some reason.
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  10.  @Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle  It's a bit of a grey area. Officially 16,000 people have been recorded as being twice infected within a 90 day period, but it is thought that in many cases this is probably due to the same infection persisting, or because of one or both of the tests being false positives. The actual number of highly probable double infections is just over 50, since the second infection was a different variety to the first.
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  11. @Mark B It only reveals carelessness. The 50 figure is the important one. It's not an agenda, it's the truth. Covid infection provides virtually total immunity. Surely it is important for people to realise this?
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  12.  @user-mg3xr9tz7m  SAGE has said many things, most of them wrong. Herd immunity is acknowledged to be the only way by which an epidemic is halted. Before vaccination the cost would have been high. Now it can be achieved by healthy people becoming immune at very small inconvenience to themselves and so setting up barriers through which the virus cannot pass.
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  13. @Mark B When have I repeated the mistake? In England only 50 or so people are known to have been infected twice. Symptoms were mild and none of them died. People like you, with your weird compulsion to make this pandemic to seem worse than it actually is, are the ones who are being dangerous and irresponsible.
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  14. @Mark B It's 500 probable and 50 confirmed. No deaths. Absolutely tiny numbers. No amount of anecdotal evidence, especially when of dubious veracity, can alter facts.
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  15. @Mark B Are you sure your name isn't Karen?
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  16.  @leftrightandcentre833  But I find some of the things people say utterly fascinating in their absurdity. Tribalism, perhaps; but there does come a point when loyalty seems to lead to something approaching insanity.
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  17. But kids only very, very rarely die of covid now. Why should this be any different in the future?
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  18.  @tomikenic1  No it doesn't. The number of deaths depends upon the number of people available to die. In any case the numbers are so small you can draw no conclusions from any change. Only 30 children under 14 have died in England throughout the entire pandemic, all with severe pre-existing conditions. Even if your reasoning was correct (which it isn't) the entire population could become infected and the number of child deaths wouldn't even reach three hundred.
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  19. So catch covid quickly now. If you are double-jabbed you will achieve near-total long-term immunity at the cost of little more than a runny nose.
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  20. Herd immunity is the way in which nature, via evolution, responds to viral epidemics. We, because we are clever humans, can reduce the inevitable casualties by protecting the vulnerable. We can also attempt, far less successfully, to attempt to prevent the spread by attempting to block its path with dangerous measures such as lockdowns, or ineffective ones, such as facemasks. There is nothing "covert" in this. Herd immunity is the only answer to this problem. All herd immunity means is that the otherwise inevitable victory of fast-reproducing viruses is prevented by a sufficient number of slowly-reproducing hosts developing individual immunity to block the pathways of the virus. It is a denial of territory. The virus. being short-lived and incapable of reproducing without hosts, consequently passes into obscurity. Darwinism works whether Boris Johnson - or you - understand it or not.
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  21. What relevance do cases have? It is their consequences which are important and the UK's death rate is only the 11th highest in Europe.
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  22. Is it true that Irishmen tuck their shirts inside their underpants? Just askin'
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  23. So if you're fit and healthy hurry up and get it before Christmas. You'll gain full immunity in time for the New Year.
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  24.  @davideaston8314  I'm sorry but all the latest data shows that a combination of double vaccine and recovery from infection creates more or less total immunity, lasting for an as yet unquantifiable period, but very probably for several years at least. Although 160,000 cases have been recorded of people testing positive twice within a 90 day period, this is strongly believed to be because they are either carrying the same infection, or because one or both of the tests was a false positive. The number of cases where there is a high probability of double infection is around 50 only, since the second test revealed the presence of a different variant. This is immunity. And with symptoms in healthy, double-vaccinated people being no more severe than a common cold there is every reason to encourage such people to become infected as quickly as possible.
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  25.  @davideaston8314  I'm sorry. I don't speak emogi.
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  26.  @davideaston8314  You are obviously as incapable of understanding satire as you are of making making a reasoned response. You get covid. It doesn't hurt much. You are immune. Lots of you become immune. The virus runs out of people to infect. It goes into retreat and becomes entirely containable. What's illogical or irrational in that? As long as the vulnerable continue to be isolated (more than they are now!) the drawbacks are minimal. Shoot me down in flames if you can, but don't fucking patronise me.
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  27.  @davideaston8314  Still no reasoning. Just childish pictures, I see.
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  28.  @davideaston8314  Chicken! You have no understanding whatsoever of the process whereby new variants emerge. You don't even know what a mutation is.
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  29. And if you're fully vaccinated and get infected you will achieve practically total immunity at the cost of a runny nose.
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  30.  @tomd5678  I'm afraid that around half of people who are hospitalised or die are double-vaccinated, and of course the ratio is increasing as more people get jabbed. This is because hospitalisations and deaths do not follow directly or proportionately upon the number of people who become infected. The number depends upon the number of people whose immune systems are sufficiently compromised to prevent them resisting the infection - and this number is constant. So there is a sense in which viral load is only a small component in the equation. It's not how many you infect, or even how badly you infect them, what is important is WHO gets infected along the chain.
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  31.  @tomd5678  I've tried to send a couple of direct links but they aren't getting through. Below is the intro of a story published by The Conversation and in various other outlets on or around July 14 based on a then recent Public Health England Survey. As the article says, these figures are in no way surprising. Deaths continue to be mainly among the very elderly and frail and, sad to say, they are unlikely to survive even the slightest extra pressure on their immune systems, vaccinated or not. This adheres to one of my previous points in that the prevalence of deaths is a consequence not of efforts to reduce infections, but of the continued exposure of those so frail that they will inevitably die if so exposed. "More vaccinated people are dying of COVID than unvaccinated people, according to a recent report from Public Health England (PHE). The report shows that 163 of the 257 people (63.4%) who died of the delta variant within 28 days of a positive COVID test between February 1 and June 21, had received at least one dose of the vaccine. At first glance, this may seem alarming, but it is exactly as would be expected."
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  32.  @tomd5678  Just an extra. Factcheckers are useful. From FullFact in attempting to disparage the story: "These figures are roughly right. Of the 117 deaths, 3 involved people whose vaccine status was unknown, 70 were people who had received at least one dose of the vaccine (61% of the 114 known cases), and 44 were people who had not been vaccinated (39%). Fifty of the deaths (44%) were people who had received both doses." This is just England of course, but there is no reason to suppose the other nations are much different. And the percentage will have gone up since then.
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  33.  @tomd5678  But the facts are the facts. Even the factcheckers say what the facts are. The source is impeccable. But you are right about people being killed by false information. The information that masks of a standard lower than an N95 fitted respirator mask are effective protection against the spread of covid is a good example of this, as is the idea that if you shut down society for months on end people won't kill themselves or go mad, or be unable to get treatment for chronic conditions which will eventually kill them before their time.
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  34.  @tomd5678  The context is of course important and the "ordinary person" (whoever he is) has to grasp the idea that although this might appear that vaccines are ineffective, this is not the case. I have not posted medical misinformation. The figures for that period clearly show that in England 44% of those who died of covid were double vaccinated. The authorities are being understandably shy about giving out more recent data, but since the age demographic for deaths continues to be predominantly the very elderly, and since the very elderly are the most vaccinated, in stands to reason that this proportion must continue, and is in fact probably well exceeded by now.
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  35.  @tomd5678  The last sentence in the Conversation intro offers immediate re-assurance. This is one instance when a certain amount of censorship might be permissible, but don't lets push it, eh?
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  36.  @tomd5678  It has now been discovered of course that the virus is predominantly spread by aerosols against which only high standard masks offer any degree of protection. The objections to the public wearing facemasks during epidemics were (and are) several and at the beginning of the pandemic every medical authority advised against their use. The sudden turn around was politically motivated, and not based on science. It still is. (I'm still scratching my one head over your one testicle and one breast.)
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  37. This morbid paranoia a weird condition that seems to affect many left-leaning people.
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  38.  @ChipsBojosidiotson  Ouch!
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  39.  @66BranDo  Everyone has had the chance to be vaccinated. People in vulnerable groups should be isolating permanently - or take the risk if they prefer. In the meantime their long-term safety is improved as herd immunity is approached.
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  40.  @Chrishagen  Close fitting surgical masks with respirators are of some use in certain conditions, but cloth masks and the little blue jobs you hang off your ears provide no protection at all worth speaking of. As for surgeons, a survey published by the Royal Society of Medicine in 2015 revealed that 4% of surgeons don't actually wear masks during operations and 20% said they only did so because they thought it was expected of them. And I'm not a troll and nor do I watch Fox News.
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  41.  @Chrishagen  The statistics come from a fairly extensive survey. Another 40% said they disliked wearing masks because they made their glasses and face-screens fog up.
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  42.  @ab-ym3bf  What false information? If you believe hanging a bit of cloth on your face has any significant effect on covid then you're the one spreading false information. Only an N95 fitted respirator mask or above has any efficacy and - as the 95 suggests - even this is not 100% effective.
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  43.  @hasse102  The link won't post, but all you have to do is go to the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine Website and scroll down to the July 2015 edition. It's all in there.
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  44.  @RockyScorcese  The ability to read.
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  45.  @ADifferentBias  The best mitigation is for as many healthy double-vaccinated people to become infected as quickly as possible.
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  46. People who disagree with his analysis?
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  47.  @iangriffiths7633  There is much to disagree with. It is an extremely gloomy prognosis which often does not compare like with like and is, understandably, tainted with political prejudice.(I personally am not among your 43, by the way.)
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  48.  @carlossaraiva8213  No, only reputable medical sources. Anything worrying you particularly?
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  49.  @carlossaraiva8213  I scarcely know what Reddit is. My information comes generally from The Office of National Statistics, Public Health England and a variety of medical sources such as ZOE and the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, among others. Once again do you have anything you particularly wish to dispute? I will answer any questions I can.
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  50.  @carlossaraiva8213  The idea that government statistics on covid are somehow altered because if Brexit shows a considerable degree of imagination on your part.
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  51. One wonders what Australia's long term plan is. Since vaccines only provide very partial immunity, and apparently hardly any at all to the frail elderly, and since there is no natural immunity present, Australia has to either stay in lockdown forever or accept the fact that there will be an inevitable wave of illness and deaths. Since the police are brutalising the populace with pepper-spray, rubber bullets and tear gas when they venture to question the official strategy, this outcome is going to be quite hard for the politicians to handle, I would have thought.
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  52. What you have to understand is that because of vaccinations it is a good thing to catch covid, not a bad thing. Your immunity will vastly increase at the cost of a runny nose and you will be performing a service to the community by paving the way to herd immunity.
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  53.  @edwardbernthal160  Are you SURE you're British?
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  54.  @edwardbernthal160  I understand that it is now possible to manufacture human brains with 3Dprinters. You are not one of the first recipients by any chance are you?
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  55.  @hannahdyson7129  How what works?
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  56. This is the first one which has been responded to with widespread lockdowns. Coincidence?
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  57.  @Mishima505  Me too.
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  58. The evidence for catching covid twice is very small. Although 16,000people are recorded as testing positive twice within a 90 day period this is thought to be the result of either the same infection persisting or either of the the tests being false positives. Just over 50 cases are likely to be true re-infections since the second infection was a different variant to the first. In all cases symptoms in both infections were mild. There is no evidence I am aware of children becoming infected multiple times.
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  59.  @sabvixen3374  They are testing positive for the same infection, or one or all of their tests are false positives. Around 16,000 people have tested positive twice within a 90 day period, but nearly all for the above reasons. Only about 50 people are thought to have probably been infected twice, since the second test showed a different variant. As far as I know there are no recorded cases of triple infections.
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  60.  @hannahdyson7129  So it might as well not be.
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  61. I think that probably when the full inquest is completed in a few years time it will reveal that lockdowns killed many more people than were saved, and excessive reliance on masks as a preventer of infection was also extremely counter-productive.
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  62. Nothing sadistic about it. If you are double vaccinated and get infected you will achieve near-total immunity at the cost of a runny nose. And NZ is heading for big trouble. Although it is true that vaccinations reduce symptoms in the fit and healthy they offer very little protection to those whose immune systems are seriously compromised, such as the very elderly or those with long-standing medical conditions. This means that NZ, like Australia, will face an onslaught of infections in a population protected only by the inadequate immunity provided by vaccination alone. The virus will reach the elderly and the vulnerable and they will die.
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  63.  @badfairy9554  Only very fat ones.
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  64.  @badfairy9554  According to the BMJ there are less than 2,000 children under 18 in hospital in the US with covid. In hospital. Not in ICU. And that's out of an estimated population of that age group of 71 million.
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  65.  @badfairy9554  Obviously there even fewer of them then. Very few pre-pubescent children suffer ill effects from covid.
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  66.  @badfairy9554  I doubt that figure. So far 350 children under 17 have died from covid in the US. If only 175 have died from flu they are doing well. Delta, if anything, seems less virulent than preceding variants. Clinical obesity is of course a factor in a great many US deaths, including those of children.
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  67. Those who are dying continue to be mainly elderly. A new factor is that many of them have not received proper treatment for existing conditions because of lockdowns.
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  68.  @hannahdyson7129  You know this how?
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  69.  @hannahdyson7129  Can you point me to one such study?
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  70. @Mark B There are no recorded cases of anyone dying after a reinfection in this country. It's not me that's spreading misinformation.
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  71. @Mark B Data on re-infections in the UK is readily available. There have been just over 50 instances of likely re-infection throughout the course of the pandemic. None were fatal.
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  72.  @MrFuckwit999  Yeah, I left out a nought. Silly old me!
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  73. I agree it will be bad, but how bad? The death-to-case ratio is roughly a tenth of what it was without vaccines and they also reduce symptoms very considerably indeed.
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  74.  @totokfr  I think the government is prepared to let both deaths and admissions reach high levels. The big drawback is the general health of the population. Many people have untreated conditions due to previous lockdowns, and this makes them extra vulnerable.
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  75.  @totokfr  The high vax rate among the very old doesn't seem to account for much. Many of those dying seem so frail that anything will send them off. A new more virulent strain isn't all that likely, although possible. A new strain will probably be more transmissible, but likely less virulent. It's the high death toll among the 60-75 age group who haven't been treated for conditions such as heart problems, diabetes and slow cancers etc which will feature this season I fear.
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  76.  @totokfr  There are still plenty of old and frail left over here and I strongly doubt the US figure. In the UK the number of deaths among the vaccinated is being kept quiet, and for very sound reasons. Vaccinations do not provide protection to the very frail and it is the frail 80-yrear olds and above who continue to suffer by far the most deaths. Since they have mostly been vaccinated it gives a false impression. All I know is that back in June the number in England was running at 44%.
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  77. Children in a post-vaccinated world will be performing a great service if it is actually true that they infect adults to any great degree. Double vaccinated healthy adults will build up considerable immunity if they are infected and, like kids, at the cost of little more than a runny nose.
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  78. Masks are useless, more or less, and always have been. There is no point in keeping the pretence up any longer.
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  79. Another factor of course is that many Asian peoples are now being shown to have an inbuilt resistance to covid due to exposure to similar pathogen epidemics in the past which did not reach Europe.
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  80. You are very wise. The only thing that is going to offer anything like protection for the vulnerable is for as many healthy people as possible to become infected and recover and so hasten herd immunity.
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  81.  @leftrightandcentre833  Re-infection is incredibly rare. Latest figures say that while about 16,000 people have tested positive twice over a 90 day period, most are probably due to the same infection persisting, or one or other -or both - of the tests being false positives. Only around 50 cases are regarded as showing a high probability of re-infection since the second test showed a different variant to the first -but even then the false positive possibility remains. As for new variants this is an issue rich in controversy. There are those who say that the more cases there are, the more chances there are of a new variant being created. There are others who suggest that since the number of viruses is thought to be about three times the number of stars in the observable universe it is a statistical certainty that all viable variants have already come into existence many times over. They only achieve pre-eminence when conditions alter to allow whatever small variation they posses to provide them with an advantage - such as reducing the number of available hosts through lockdowns, for example. I expect you can guess which school of thought I favour.
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  82.  @leftrightandcentre833  More instinct based on my understanding (such as it is) of the way in which evolution works.
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  83. Even those who run the tests admit that one in 14 results are false positives.
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  84.  @leftrightandcentre833  I agree wholeheartedly. Objective assessment is everything.
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  85. Does this mean they will keep covid going forever? Otherwise the elderly and disabled will be replaced as time goes on.
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