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Yesterday the deaths in Sweden were back down to zero. Aren't you pleased? The death rate in the UK continues to soar because of the new variant - created as the virus' response to lockdowns - which Sweden, very sensibly, did not implement.
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Neither does include those who have died from cancer and other illnesses because their treatments were cancelled. (It does actually include those who died at home by the way. Just so you know.)
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You do realise, don't you, that the efficacy of lockdowns in reducing the number of deaths is very much in dispute. There have been at least two extensive peer-reviewed studies which strongly indicate that while lockdowns slow down the rate of infection, at the end of the day the number of deaths is hardly affected at all. It is, as you rightly say, the number of properly-staffed ICU beds which is the problem. You can't stop elderly and vulnerable people from dying. But you can provide facilities to help ensure borderline cases survive and suffer less. Failure to do this is the government's most grievous fault.
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As a schoolteacher I'm sure Phil must be pleased to know that his profession has suffered the least loss of life from covid than any other occupation in the country.
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@f_f_f_8142 I don't think it works like that. The virus is mutating all the time. There are trillions upon trillions of them, don't forget. In a situation where new hosts are easily accessible it is of no great advantage to a variant to have a swifter and more efficient means of infecting cells. There are plenty to go around. There is no competition. When the number of potential hosts is reduced, however, a variant (which already exists) and which has this advantage will beat slower and less efficient variants to those hosts which are available and will thus succeed and prosper. It's how evolution works. Adaptation to circumstance ensures survival and further reproduction.
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@alexanderlarsen6412 You'd be wrong then.
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@bringitbex I'm afraid some of your facts are out. The figures include all those who have died at all locations, including care homes and domestic residences. These are people who have died within 28 days of a positive test. Of these around 80% died with covid as the underlying cause. The 28 days was selected for a reason, since the impact of a positive test on the possibility of covid being a major contributory cause of death decreases with time. The majority of deaths (over 75%) occurred in the elderly and very elderly. The overall death rate from all causes in the UK in 2020 was around 10.3% - the same as in 2003 and less than almost any year in the previous century.
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These are not just hospital deaths. Deaths at home and in care homes are included. Just so you know. Figures for deaths within 60 days are available, but show little significant increase.
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@ThePurityControl Have the ONS suddenly removed care home deaths from their figures? As you will see from section5 of the latest report (below) they are clearly included. The 60 day figures go up and down, but I'm not quite sure what relevance they have. It's rather sordid playing this more than/less than game though, don't you think? It's bad - but not as bad as some are trying to make out. Perspective is needed. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending15january2021#deaths-registered-by-place-of-occurrence
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@ThePurityControl It's already hard enough to put into perspective the relevance of a death within 28 days. Generally of those deaths around 80% are recorded as Covid 19 being the underlying cause. Death within 60 days of a positive becomes even more of an abstraction. Your 9,000 is swallowed up immediately. But as I said, this is an unwelcome situation enough, why do people want to make it seem worse than it actually is? The deaths have overwhelmingly occurred among the elderly and the frail. Children and young people have thankful been spared. Even in terms of the death toll itself 2020 was no worse than 2003 and far far better than any year in the preceding century. What is important is that the government has dealt with this situation very, very badly indeed.
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