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So the crooks who send them out in overcrowded boats bear no responsibility?
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@johnjeanb The Nazis weren't very keen on the mentally deficient either. So be careful.
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@byrnemeister2008 Resources which are being diverted to help line gangsters' pockets. Do you think that's right?
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@Dionysos640 They should certainly complain that their services are being abused.
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@lellyparker No-one NO-ONE is suggesting murder! But allowing ourselves to be emotionally blackmailed in order to help line the pockets of criminal people-traffickers should not be a cause of any great satisfaction, should it?
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@khalidacosta7133 If tried very hard to understand this analogy but it makes no sense at all.
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Compassion is certainly something criminals are prepared to exploit in order to make a profit.
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@anglonorse2943 No. He's saying they are being taken advantage of. Which they are.
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@anglonorse2943 No-one is abusing lifeboat crews. No-one. It is just being pointed out that they and the people who support them are being taken advantage of by crooks - and it would be as well to realise it.
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The RNLI is being used as an unpaid taxi service by people-smuggling criminals. They are taking the piss - and you are fools not to see it.
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@Dionysos640 It's totally relevant. If volunteer resources are being used to assist in a criminal enterprise we have every right to complain bitterly.
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@ionnanskilliorus That's no excuse! (As partially true as it may well be. Don't forget SERCO takes over when the RNLI or Border Force drop the immigrants off!)
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@Subjagator Your analogies are inexact. The victims of this crime are predominantly the British people who are having their resources reduced due to excess immigration, and many of the immigrants themselves who are lured here by false promises. We are helping neither by encouraging the trade. The victims of prohibition were largely the gangsters who fought among themselves and the US government, which lost revenue. The victims of prostitution are mainly the prostitutes and those who catch VD. In the present instance the RNLI, the RN, the Coastguard and the Border Patrol are being used in the same way bootleggers and pimps use the police to help their endeavours. The only difference is they aren't getting kickbacks - or at least we hope not, anyway. Not so sure about SERCO which takes over after the immigrants are landed though.
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@stephanguitar9778 Your powers of reasoning certainly leave something to be desired if you imagine complaining to criminals does any good. No, you complain to the government - which is what the RNLI ought to be doing instead of playing the hero. Acting as an unpaid taxi service for crooks is not what all those donations are supposed to be for.
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@BIZZIB3ATZ Since I am doing no such thing I am obviously not a bit as dense as you are.
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@lellyparker Yes. But they shouldn't have to go out in the first place.
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@lellyparker But the RNLI is providing a free resource which allows the gangsters to cut their costs - and make more money.
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@lellyparker Yup.
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@ionnanskilliorus What's wrong with offshore bank accounts? They make money. The RNLI, the Navy and the Coastguard and the Border Service use it up. So do illegal immigrants. See the difference?
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@TheMixCurator A totally false analogy. What's happening is more like encouraging a shooting war by lining up ambulances outside a crack den.
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@andrewpittas1016 I didn't blow anyone's home up. And have you got ten grand to spare to take you half-way across the world? No-one is really saying "let them die" you fool. But if they believe the streets of London are paved with gold they can easily be made to believe they might die getting here.
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@paulhodgers No-one is REALLY suggesting that, you fool. It would just be very useful if they could be made to think it was true.
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@stephanguitar9778 Then why are the dinghy people coming in through the front door then?
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@lellyparker You are insane and offensive. Is it your time of the month or are you always like this?
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@MrSpleenboy A lifeboat can't rescue people if it's still in its shed, can it? And you are wrong about "the first state" too. It has nothing to do with the Geneva Convention as such. In the 1951 UN protocol on refugees it states quite clearly that refugees must arrive DIRECTLY from their country of origin. The government advises would-be immigrants that if they have passed through intervening countries they might not be accepted. It also states that they must also be in fear of harm in their home country - not just fed up with it.
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@tonyy452 I agree with the first part! If they can pick fruit and veg or drive a lorry, welcome them with open arms! But overpopulation through immigration really is a problem. When plans for services were laid in the 80s and 90s they simply didn't allow for the numbers. Immigration outstripped the projected birth rate several years ago.
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@ionnanskilliorus I was waiting for these two to come up. People who are losing arguments usually bring in Krunning Duger or Adolf Hitler before long.
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@khalidacosta7133 That is scarcely a recommendation, is it? What IQ level do you need to make them?
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@lellyparker It does though. Nothing which assists the trade in human beings should be encouraged in any way. The knowledge that the dinghies will be picked up it a plus point in advertising the service provided by the smuggling gangs.
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@Zakalwe76 I don't think we should actually let them drown. Just letting them think we MIGHT ought to provide some discouragement however.
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@andrewpittas1016 The sad fact is there have to be limits. There has to be control. At the moment we are in an absurd situation where Afghanis who have acted as interpreters etc for the British and who are in serious danger of losing their lives as the Taliban take over, are being refused permission to come here while others from Syria, sub-Saharan Africa and anywhere in between are getting in illegally and giving no account of whatever danger they may be in, if any. It's a criminal racket, and all those who allow their kind natures to be taken advantage of to support it are sentimental fools.
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@scot-ei3yy It's been along while since Britain destroyed a country - or even helped to do so.
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@lellyparker The attribution of blame is hardly the point. It is the allocation of resources which is important. According to long-established international protocols priority should be given to persons in danger in their home countries. This is even more pertinent when the danger they face owes itself to services they have performed on our behalf. The channel crossing migrants are not in the same category. Many are not even refugees. They see advertisements in social media which offer them the chance to find a better life in a country with free social services and health care - and so they come. Where they get the money from for the fare often doesn't bear thinking about. They often borrow it at exorbitant rates of interest with their family's entire possessions - and even sometimes their lives - as security. As I am sure you can see the two cases are very different. The Home Office is very unfair in the decisions it takes and its mechanisms are very hard to understand but there is little doubt that a quota system is employed and the current spate of cross-channel chancers is making things more difficult for more deserving cases.
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@andysimons9226 The UK is under no legal obligation to grant asylum to anyone who has not arrived DIRECTLY from a country where their lives or wellbeing are threatened on account of their, race, religion or political views. Fact.
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@wolfgangpreier9160 But who in their right mind would want to to North Korea?
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@wolfgangpreier9160 It is when you are charging them thousands to do it, and making promises you cannot keep and lending them money at exorbitant rates of interest and threatening to kill their families if they don't pay the money back three times over.
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@molybdomancer195 On the contrary, they are examples of Hereitisism.
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@mkvk74 Another false analogy. People who buy cars from crooked car salesmen should be warned that it will be their own fault if they crash.
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@lellyparker Actually very few do appear to have drowned. The point is that the fear of drowning might prevent these people from attempting the crossing.
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@lellyparker The point is that they are being milked out of money and put through danger and by advertising the fact that we will pick them up in the channel we are making a rotten deal look more attractive. And the only way they can legally claim asylum is if they faced persecution in France. Which is not likely.
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@lellyparker The trips are advertised on Tik Tok for goodness sake!
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@paulhodgers Who cares? If it scares people away from falling for the traffickers' spiel it's a job well done.
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@MrSpleenboy Have you got ten grand to emigrate to somewhere you fancy? Or aren't you that fortunate?
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@stephanguitar9778 What is?
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@stephanguitar9778 Tax revenue is only one aspect of the contribution made to the economy by the wealthy. Wealthy people - Tory cronies or not - are generally better at distributing wealth than governments are. And the cost of placing increasing pressure on limited resources through immigration is incalculable. If we had a birth rate equivalent to the rate of immigration over the last forty years the situation would be just as bad.
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@gurkslunga It's in the introduction to Article 31. I don't know the exact page number I'm afraid. You look it up.
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@gurkslunga Blasting terrorists out of caves hardly equates with destroying a country - especially as this instance the RAF was acting on behalf of the government of that country.
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@MrSpleenboy Then the cross-channel immigrants are as fortunate as you.
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@lellyparker If the passengers were not assured of the fact that they would be picked up and taken to safety, then the traffickers would have to find another more expensive way of getting them across. That is why it is foolish for us to provide this assurance.
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@TheMixCurator Surgeons would be justifiably pissed off if people continually took risks knowing that they will be saved by the surgeon's skill.
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@lellyparker What do you keep going on about brown for?
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@sbor2020 How do you think these people get here? They pay large sums of money and the RNLI and other UK services carry out the last stage of the journey for free.
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@slartibartfast3041 No - the crooks should be paying them!
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@wolfgangpreier9160 Why do they want to come here then? Any idea?
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@slartibartfast3041 The French seem to be taking the piss as much as the people traffickers.
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@Ian_Carolan I do indeed. It's a great channel which has given me many hours of pleasure to interact with. Reasoned debate is so very important in a free society, don't you think?
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@lythalls Far, far less gullible than the other contributors to this thread whose kindly good natures are being severely taken advantage of!
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@lellyparker Brexit has caused cancer rates to soar, hair loss in young children, severe flooding in Westmoreland and disturbing changes in the sexual habits of goldfish. It really is the most dreadful thing.
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@lellyparker They'd do that for preference I'm sure - but they wouldn't be allowed on without documents and the documents would either have to be forged (expensive) or if they used their own they couldn't be classed as refugees. You'll have to come up with something else if you want to pursue a career as a people-trafficker.
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@lellyparker Again this obsession with skin colour.
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@lythalls Explaining something to someone who already knows and understands it is not only stupid but patronising. What did you come out with all this guff for?
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@lythalls Flattery will get you nowhere.
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@STONEWALL148 I have no time for Johnson and entirely agree that his government's response to the pandemic has been utterly shameful in a great many regards.
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@paulsaunders6536 When? Sorry, this thread is getting a little out of hand, as much fun as it is.
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@adambrickley1119 The point is every effort should be made to prevent these people making this journey. No-one is suggesting that they should be allowed to drown - simply that the idea that they might be should be implanted in their minds. The situation will improve one the pandemic is over. The huge increase in small boat crossings has been fuelled by other routes(ferries, tunnel) being blocked due to restrictions. Another very worrying factor is that families of those asylum applicants already here have been prevented from joining them due to covid concerns, and this has led to a great increase in the number of women and children crossing by dinghy. Hitherto almost all the crossers have been young men. There is no doubt whatsoever that criminal gangs operate this system, and for very large fees. Apart from wives and offspring, a number of the women and children are brought here for sexual purposes, especially from the Far East. Proudly advertising our humanitarianism, as the RNLI is wont to do, is very foolish under the present circumstances.
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They've already chucked them in themselves, silly. And their credit cards.
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Nothing secret about it. It is one of his favourite charities and he has raised thousands for it.
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How many of these cases have there been? I'm all on fire to know.
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Farage himself has raised money for the RNLI.
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