Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "" video.

Track and trace and isolation only exist to make money for crooks. How hilarious to see Johnson made a victim of the scam!
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Most on the 1922 would be as happy as you to see the back of Boris.
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Where's the irony?
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@rocketscience4516 And a jolly good morning to you too! Why don't you put The Guradian to one side and have a read of this? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(20)30229-1/fulltext
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I haven't heard of Heard Immunity, but we are heading for Herd Immunity right now.
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Not everyone is motivated by envy you know.
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@atomiccritter6492 Restrictions are undoubtedly killing more people than covid itself. Here's another conspiracy site for you: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(20)30229-1/fulltext
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@lazytitan9987 "Our estimates are based on tentative assumptions and represent a wide range of outcomes. Nonetheless, they show that, if routine health care is disrupted and access to food is decreased (as a result of unavoidable shocks, health system collapse, or intentional choices made in responding to the pandemic), the increase in child and maternal deaths will be devastating. We hope these numbers add context as policy makers establish guidelines and allocate resources in the days and months to come." I draw your attention to the line "or intentional choices made in responding to the pandemic." And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Millions will die and suffer across the world - mostly young and mostly poor - as the result of our selfish efforts to give a few more months of existence to those who have already had a long turn at life, and many of whom scarcely know they are alive anyway.
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@lazytitan9987 Restrictions are designed to allow governments time to get their healthcare service in order ready to deal with an influx of patients. And that's it. To conflate "food shortages" with Brexit is typical of the distasteful way certain people have sought to politicize this pandemic, and in no way comes within the remit of this study. Yes - let the disease run rampant. Now we have vaccines which can go some way to protecting the vulnerable, and the knowledge that the young and healthy will survive, to carry on hiding in our bedrooms pretending that death does not exist is both folly and cowardice.
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@lazytitan9987 The health service managed perfectly well during the previous two waves - despite propaganda to the contrary. Remember the Nightingale Hospitals - never used but full of beds and equipment? Instead of wasting billions on test and trace the government should have organised rush courses to bring ward and theatre nurses up to an ICU standard sufficient to monitor covid patients, but even without that the health service coped. The shortage of lorry drivers and vegetable pickers which appears to be the prime cause of such food shortages as there are has nothing whatsoever to do with the pandemic and should be kept as an entirely separate issue.
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@lazytitan9987 Restrictions only slow down the number of cases. Despite poor planning the health service coped admirably. Figures show that while some areas were under pressure, there was plenty of spare capacity in other areas. You are right in that the government should have ensured that the health services were geared up to deal with subsequent waves. Whether the present level of service is adequate we will just have to see. Given that symptoms are far less severe this time around it seems likely that it well may be. Another panic-stricken lockdown will merely put off the inevitable - as previous measures of a similar nature clearly have done.
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@lazytitan9987 The utter stupidity of forcing them to isolate is the whole point. The chances of either of them passing it on to anyone else or even having it the first place are minimal. And even if they did have it it would be no worse than a cold and that applies to anyone they may give it to. The "pingdemic" is currently doing more harm than the pandemic - as indeed have been most measures taken to combat it.
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@lazytitan9987 The knock on effects of lockdowns on world poverty are irrefutable. As for their effects in the countries where they have been implemented their cost is measurable, whereas their benefits are not. They have been called the biggest public health disaster in modern history by at least one highly reputable epidemiologist So yes, people are suggesting it. Your desire to twist everything into a political weapon against the Tories and Brexit does you little credit, if I may say so. I doubt very much we would have been better served by Labour, but once again this is imponderable. What is not imponderable is the effect of lockdowns upon health generally - both mental and physical - as well as creating pressures on the economy which will still being felt long after covid is forgotten.
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@lazytitan9987 Before anything - I don't want to absolve this government of responsibility. Far from it. They have behaved appallingly, Johnson especially. I do not believe it is possible to extrapolate what the death toll would have been without restrictions. Epidemiologists and mathematicians are practically at daggers drawn. Computer modelling, it seems, can be tweaked to arrive at practically any conclusion you choose. I prefer to look at countries and US states where restrictions have been mandated and compare their results with countries and states where they have not been. And I can see no appreciable difference. So it cannot justifiably be claimed that thousands of lives have been saved. It can be claimed, however, just as one small example, that in 2020, after years of steady decline, half a million more people -mostly young - died of TB because resources were diverted to the pointless task of keeping 90-year olds alive. Dirt farmers are going bust and their children are dying because they cannot get their produce to market and cannot get it distributed anyway because firms in the UK and Europe are locked down. It's utter madness. We should have bitten the bullet months ago and now that the vaccines are here we have no excuse not to do so now.
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@lazytitan9987 Since you're into the comparisons game, why not compare Brazil with neighbouring Peru where the death total by head of population is higher, despite rigid lockdown restrictions enforced by the military? If you want to look at Africa compare death tolls in countries where malaria is endemic to those where it is not. You might find that more interesting and worthwhile. You might need someone to explain factorisation to you also. And climatology and demographics. In the UK the average age of those who have died is above the average age of deaths as a whole. The largest single category of deaths is men in their nineties. Deaths below the age of 40 are statistically negligible and all deaths have occurred in people with pre-existing severe medical conditions. A good proportion of the deaths which occurred in the second wave happened to people whose care had been impacted by restrictions. Of that you can be sure. And to answer your question I am in my seventies and have type 2 diabetes and hypertension. And would jump off a cliff tomorrow if I thought it would give my grandchildren a greater chance of having a decent, fulfilling life.
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@lazytitan9987 It is utterly absurd and meaningless to compare covid statistics purely on population numbers. Covid kills mainly old people, therefore the proportion of elderly in the population is going to be a major factor. (As indeed has been the case with the UK.) And malaria is far from extraneous or irrelevant. The countries where malaria is most prevalent show an astonishing low level of covid deaths. Your chosen example of Nigeria for example accounts for 23% of all malaria deaths and has a covid death rate of 1.06 per 100,000 of population. Other malarial countries Mozambique(3.63),Congo (.020) and Tanzania(.04) show the same trend. This is clearly of greater significance than the fact that Nigeria's population is similar to that of Brazil. And how about countries with similar populations to both, such as Pakistan (10.52) and Indonesia (26.50) what conclusions can you draw from these comparisons? None, that's what. With all due respect I really think you have to get it out of your head that "bad" covid results have anything much to do with nasty Mr Bolsonaro, or nasty Mr Johnson or nasty Mr Trump. Natural pre-existing conditions have far more to do with performance than any amount of human intervention. These may include climatic conditions, inbuilt genetic predispositions, demographics, population densities and -as is the case with Peru and Brazil totally crappy healthcare systems which preceded the outbreak.
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@lazytitan9987 There are no such confluences - and Nigeria has done better because there is a clear confluence between countries where malaria is endemic and low covid death rates. This may be due to the widespread use of hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic or because resistance to earlier malarias has caused an inbuilt resistance to covid. The comparative excellence of the healthcare systems of Brazil and Nigeria is not particularly relevant, given these facts. As for leadership I don't think that the sterling qualities of the rulers of the Central African Republic or Papua New Guinea have had much influence on those two countries' low death rates any more than the fascist bastards who run Belgium and Montenegro can be blamed for their countries' poor performances. In many Asian countries genetic factors are now emerging as very significant factors in performance. As for Australasia, while it is entirely possible that isolation and swift imposition of strict controls may have saved them, other factors could well be relevant. The question remains: what do they actually expect to happen when they come out of their shells? How long are they going to stay there? As for New Zealand in particular, babies there are dying of colds and other usually mild infections because, thanks to lockdowns, their immune systems have not be allowed to develop.
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@lazytitan9987 You have neither corrected me nor proved my logic to be in any way faulty. The reverse is true if anything. The substance in question does not cure covid nor prevent it. It merely strengthens the cells' resistance and reduces the severity of symptoms. It does this both for malaria and covid, as well as a number of other feverish infections. It is, after all, just a souped up version of quinine. The extremely low covid death rate in malarial countries is just as likely to be due to defences built up by many generations of responding to rapidly changing malaria variants. Although it seems important to your mindset to suppose that right-wing leadership has lead to disastrous consequences this is not so, as I have demonstrated by example. No-one has got this right, except through chance and favourable circumstances. No amount of leadership could have overcome the fact that there are many very elderly people in Britain, many very obese people in the US and many very undernourished people in Brazil.
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@lazytitan9987 Nor it does. It's purely a prophylactic. It has to get into the lung cells before the virus arrives.
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It is.
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@sososoprano1 This one does. More than 20,000 vaccinated people a day are being tested positive.
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@sososoprano1 Actually it's rather good news. If you get infected after being vaccinated then your symptoms are going to be pretty mild - no worse than a cold on most cases. But you will become immune and with thousands of people becoming immune every day the viral pathways are continually being blocked. Herd immunity is on the horizon. Under these circumstances it is highly unlikely that a more vaccine-resistant and more virulent strain will come to the fore. If one was to emerge it would be at a disadvantage because its hosts might die or be hospitalised and so restricted in their capability of infecting others, whereas the delta variant can jump from host to host as they walk about the streets - or even go to nightclubs!
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@sososoprano1 The trouble is there seems no likelihood of getting herd immunity via vaccination at the moment. Mind you, if it does arrive through infection the vaccine goldmine is going to run out- not that this would POSSIBLY affect anyone's thinking of course!
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@sososoprano1 And the profiteering goes on. Injecting children could represent a severe threat to their future development and yet the left seems to be supporting it. The Tories may be a bunch of crooks but they get on with the crooks in Big Pharma. Sweet-natured, innocent Labour would probably have been conned rotten.
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And a victory for sanity.
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