Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "Kherson Christmas shoppers hit with deadly Russian shelling | DW News" video.

Zelensky does.
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@ismailyahaia3312 Are you talking about Zelensky?
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Ukraine has been attacking civilians in Donbass for eight years. Thousands have died.
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@sergeyb8 There has been a continual exchange of fire along a moving frontline in Donbass, certainly. But both sides are equally to blame for civilian casualties.
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@sergeyb8 Oh far fewer. The bulk of the deaths happened in the first two years, but the separatist armies fought back and until recently I think deaths were running at as few as 50/60 a year. Now though it's all changed and civilian death rate is mounting again.
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@sergeyb8 I continue with that final assertion. Diplomatic solutions were possible but they would invariably involve concessions to Russian interests. Lets face it, this is a war between two sets of gangsters the Ukrainian, American facing oligarchs and the Ukrainian Russian-facing oligarchs. Things has quietened down in Donbass before 2022 but it was clear that things were about to hot up again. America wasn't going to spend billions on training and equipping a large Ukrainian army without seeing a return. In December 2021 Putin offered an entirely reasonable peace deal, but it was scornfully rejected. What Russia either had to invade or skulk away defeated. That it could not do. Ukraine's responsibility lies in the lack of judgement of its leadership, both with Zelensky and with Poroshenko, whose efforts to crush the rebellion only succeeded in strengthening it, and under whose regime the majority of civilian deaths occurred.
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@sergeyb8 I repeat that Ukraine must take its share of blame, for reasons already stated. Russia was provoked - and over a long period too. Ukraine may not end up with any choice. That's what wars are for. Nothing changes, let alone from the Middle Ages, but for thousands of years before. Interests clash. Weapons are rattled. Bribery is attempted. Talks take place. Talks fail . War results . It was ever thus. As I say, Ukraine may end up not having any choice in the matter of the annexation of Crimea and Donbass. Denying choice to your opponents is an essential feature of war. If Ukraine chooses to fight on it has be very sure that it has the resources to continue to do so. Otherwise things will only get worse. Tell me more about the Russians trying to extend their territory in Crimea. I am not familiar with this.
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The Ukrainians did the same thing in Donetsk a couple of weeks ago. Didn't get reported much for some reason.
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