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Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "Greta Thunberg Experiences ‘Pollution Pods’ at UN Youth Climate Summit" video.
ROHIT GOGOL Climate change is real but it is the result of age-old cyclic patterns in the solar system. CO2 has nothing to do with it. Atmospheric pollution is a totally separate issue. Climate change has, however, become a political issue because it is being used as a bogeyman for purposes of financial and political manipulation.
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Does this have anything at all to do with CO2 emissions into the atmosphere? Or is just part of the plan to confuse the scientifically ignorant?
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Winston Shih This has nothing to do with climate change. Air pollution is a separate issue.
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devoted2trouble I'm getting tired of saying this now but air pollution has nothing whatsoever to do with climate change. The US has some of the strictest air pollution regulations in the world, which is why cities in China and other countries are choking with smog and cities in the US are not.
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Nilavra Pathak I have to say I have seldom seen so much laughable naivety contained in a single paragraph. You are truly ahead of your time. Before very long the size of your "carbon footprint" will be decided for you by the government. If you exceed it your cellphone or your home computer will tell them so, and you will be taxed or fined accordingly. The only way to avoid this will be to be rich enough to buy extra "footprint" on the carbon futures market. This extra will come from allocations made to the governments of poor countries where people don't have cars or much industry and where a Mediterranean diet would be a luxury beyond their widest dreams.
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Felichia Ritter Do people who believe in the climate crisis have some sort of filter in their noses so that air pollution doesn't affect them? How does that work?
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Mister G The dots make a picture drawn by a child.
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Mister G Your scientific knowledge is obviously extensive. Do you have any views on recent assertions that the greenhouse effect is not a radiative phenomenon driven by the atmospheric infrared depth as was previously believed, but a pressure-induced thermal enhancement analogous to adiabatic heating and independent of atmospheric composition?
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Mister G How can you possibly say that? If the composition of the atmosphere is adiabatic its composition does not affect temperature in any way. The amount of carbon in it, whether from burning fuels or by natural exhalation from the sea and other sources, is of no relevance. Temperature is the result of atmospheric pressure combined with the earth's position in relation to the sun -as is the case with all planets in the solar system. No. I am more and more convinced that this entire so-called climate crisis has been created by greedy and clever financial manipulators such as George Soros using faulty science as its basis. AND THAT REALLY IS SOMETHING TO SCREAM ABOUT!
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Mister G No troll, but I have warmed bigly to God Emperor Trump since he came to office; although that is scarcely relevant since I am British. I want to ask you how you react to the fact that We Don't Have Time, the organisation which gave us Greta Thunberg and the school strike, is founded and operated by people with purely financial backgrounds? They are hedge fund managers and have brought out some utterly terrifying cartoons which show they want to rule the world by dictating everyone's carbon footprint. I must say this worries me somewhat.
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RuleofFive No. She's Swedish.
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Jockum T Although you are of course absolutely right about atmospheric pollution are you aware of recent studies which suggest that CO2 returns IR radiation to the surface only in proportion to that required to maintain the atmosphere in a condition of thermodynamic stability? This means of course that the greenhouse effect cannot in fact be increased by increased carbon and that therefore any global warming must be due to other causes.
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Nilavra Pathak Noble enough. But what if your emissions - to say nothing of the emissions from a Chinese cement factory - turn out to contribute absolutely nothing to global warming, which is merely part of a natural long-established cycle? It doesn't matter though. Your regime can do no harm. But do start to worry when such behaviour becomes compulsory.
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Felichia Ritter Sad to say it is people like you who need to question the lies and propaganda you have been brainwashed with. I have taken steps to become informed - man-made global warming is a total myth created for purposes of political and financial gain.
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Mark Buell You are seriously confused. You start off saying saying that scientists didn't take evidence and a few lines later you accuse people of denying what scientists and experts say. How does that work?
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cat lover Even the good ones. New studies are showing that carbon doesn't cause global warming at all, would you believe?
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Bmanritche Does that include all those GOP members who own factories and are faced with huge carbon tax bills?
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Bmanritchie The penalties are not there to curb bad business, they are there to create a market in carbon emission permissions. If you have a factory which HAS to emit carbon as a result of its processes, then the only alternative to fines or taxation is to buy extra permissions on the cap and trade market. The people who are shouting loudest about the evils of carbon are the same people who control this market. They have fixed it so that underdeveloped countries are granted large quantities of permissions on the pretext that they need to develop an industrial base. The governments of these countries are, sadly, often somewhat corrupt and they are quite willing to sell these permissions, which is perfectly legal. The hedge-fund traders buy them cheap and then pull off some stunt ( ie Greta Thurnberg) which causes the market price of permissions to shoot up. They then sell off the permissions they hold for a vast profit. You are being conned. Your good nature and your concern for the environment are being cynically abused by these snakes. What makes it even worse is that carbon does not cause warming anyway. That is the result of atmospheric pressure combined with the heat of the sun.
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Bmanrichie I remain unembarrassed. You have just spouted the jargon the salesman told you when you bought the dodgy car. If curbing emissions reduces output and profitability (which it will) then you simply buy in more permissions on the cap and trade market. The people selling you these permissions are the same people who created the formula you quote in your first paragraph. I think you misunderstood me when I said "The people shouting the loudest" etc. I did not mean fossil fuel producers, who are well on top of the game. They play the cap and trade market too, often very successfully. What I meant was organisations like We Don't Have Time which shipped Greta to the US and also largely organised the school strike. The founders and board members of this organisation pretend to be eco-warriors. In fact they all have financial backgrounds. They are hedge fund managers. Greta was not discovered on a lonely protest vigil outside her school. She was selected by WDHT from the winners of an essay competition designed to find the "face" for the latest stage of their scam. She has been extensively trained and coached. Her Asperger's makes her an easily malleable actress.and I doubt very much that her parents, professional actors/singers themselves, would let her work for free. The MSM coverage of her activities in Europe has been widespread there. What is the real stinger is that it's looking increasingly likely that carbon doesn't cause global warming anyway. The science that says it does is all based on "models" of the atmosphere, ie educated guesses as to what it's actually like. New research using information directly obtained from the real world, using satellites and weather balloons, seems to show that these models bear as much resemblance to the real thing as a kiddies drawing with crayons on the side of a cardboard box does to a high-resolution photograph. In the real world carbon seems part of a sophisticated mechanism designed to regulate temperature, not an agent causing it to increase.
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V. Lee Walker Such a shame she is an actress employed by the George Soros One Foundation to help spread climate crisis alarm, and thus enable him to make even more money on the carbon futures market.
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ROHIT GOGO! You are making the common error of confusing pollution with climate change. Mankind's pollution of the planet is truly horrendous and much, much more needs to be done about. This is one of the things that makes me so angry about all the energy being devoted to this climate crisis BS.
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ROHIT GOGO Recited like a good little parrot! Why should greenhouse gas emissions cause temperatures to rise anyway? Surface temperature is the result of a combination of atmospheric pressure and proximity to the sun -as is the case with all planets in the solar system. Why should earth be any different? The oceans are turning to ACID?? Brrrr. Be careful you next go swimming! Seriously, these are all scare stories designed to keep the AGW myth going through the use of fear. The yarn that the sun is cooling off is just another trick to excuse that fact that the climate crisis predictions are so wildly wrong. The sun - the whole solar system - is a great spiraling organism barreling through space at millions of miles an hour. It goes through very complex cycles and it is this -and purely this -which causes variations in temperature. You are being conned for purposes of financial and political manipulation. Wise up. Do your own research and don't just believe what teacher tells you.
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ROHIT GOGO There are very, very many scientists who disagree with the "facts" upon which climate crisis hysteria is based, It certainly is being used for political purposes, as well as for financial gain.
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