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Comments by "Dale Crocker" (@dalecrocker3213) on "Mayor has theory why Russia is evacuating Ukrainian cities" video.
While congratulating Ukraine in its efforts to reduce corruption and become more democratic, picking a fight with Russia doesn't seem the best way to set about it.
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@neosapienz7885 Absolutely. Putin didn't invade out of the blue. He is not mad. He has no notion of "recreating the Soviet Empire". He is involved a border war with Ukraine over Crimea and Donbass, both of which have substantial Russian populations. Zelensky, shoehorned in by the US and with an army largely paid for by the US, was told to try to recapture Crimea and Donbass. He was setting about doing so when Putin decided to get in first.
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@zipperpillow Zelensky, ordered by Washington, was ordered to recapture Crimea and Donbass. Putin no like this.
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@spelunkerd They shouldn't have invaded Donbass.
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@Backtotheshadowsagain They started the war by threatening to retake Crimea and Donbass and to join NATO and the EU. This war didn't start eight months ago, it started eight years ago, and the Ukrainians had killed thousand before the Russians invaded in February. But you're not supposed to know that.
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@ericconnor8419 What naughty fibbers they are.
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@neosapienz7885 This has stopped being about moral rights and wrongs. It's about stopping a war which didn't need to start in the first place and the after-effects of which will be with us possibly for centuries. Ans as far as I am aware the Russian populations of the Baltic states have not been fighting a bloody war with their national governments for eight years and nor have they (yet) agreed to be a launch pad for US nuclear missiles.
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@zipperpillow It doesn't matter who wins. We will all be losers after this. Ukraine should have negotiated.
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@s.d.7595 America started this war by using the idiot Zelensky to provoke Russia.
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@neosapienz7885 Appeasement usually works. Without appeasement the human race would be in a state of permanent bloody conflict. The trouble is that the history of Nazi Germany is, for some reason, just about the only history taught in schools these days and that was a case when appeasement didn't work. Putin is not Hitler, and the circumstances are entirely different. The very fact that you and many like you think that this war is about picking sides and treating it as some sort of game is at the heart of the problem. Russia's demands are entirely reasonable and could provide the basis for negotiation. Instead Ukraine has been pushed by America into provoking Putin to such a degree that he has decided to invade.
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@zipperpillow You may be right in much of your analysis, but I do not believe that Putin threatens Ukraine's existence. He wants Crimea to be acknowledged as part of the Russian Federation and for Donbass to be independent. He also demands that Ukraine should not join NATO. These are entirely pragmatic and reasonable solutions to current problems. Nobody gets hurt and we can all tick along quite nicely. But America won't have it. The warmongers of Washington have their senile puppet in the White House and an oligarch's yapping lapdog as president of Ukraine. This is going to be another Vietnam or another Iraq but much, much worse.
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@Backtotheshadowsagain Russia is not targeting civilians, although some may well be killed as civilian infrastructure is destroyed. As for the EU this whole thing kicked off when attempts were made to join it in 2014. NATO and the US are pretty synonymous. The other nations are really just the lapdogs of the US military/industrial complex.
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@neosapienz7885 Appeasement is an important feature of compromise and, in any case, it is by no means certain who is the aggressor here. America gave Zelensky the go-ahead to rattle a stick along Putin's back fence and Putin jumped over and whopped him one. The relationships between Russia and Ukraine, Russia and Moldova, Russia and Belarus or anywhere else for that matter have nothing to do with anyone else. This war, like practically every war in the past eighty years or so is the result of interference by ham-fisted Washington warmongers. We don't have any obligation to pick sides. Picking sides means supplying weapons and the sooner Ukraine runs out of them the better.
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@zipperpillow Crimea was tacked on the Ukraine because the Kerch strait made infrastructure and administration difficult for Russia. Since they were both Soviet Russia anyway it didn't matter. I am fascinated by your idea that Ukraine has been fighting with one hand behind its back. Only a couple of minutes ago I was listening to Gen Douglas MacGregor telling me exactly the reverse. Ukraine's armed forces have been utterly depleted and the Russians have a substantial force of regulars and mercenaries ready to move in. We will just have to see. As to the border -well, that's predominantly what this is about. Are Crimea and Donbass going to be in Ukraine or in Russia? Will Europe get their oil and gas, or will it go to China?
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@Backtotheshadowsagain It's a puzzle to me how brainless people can be brainwashed, but there we are. When did I say the Ukrainians are retreating? Clearly they are not. As for Bucha other similar incidents it has yet to be decided who was responsible. Given the appalling human rights records of both countries we can safely assume that both are guilty of war crimes.
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@zipperpillow It could still go either way. The West is heading for economic collapse while Russia is busy forging relationships with Asia and the middle east. The economic background will decide who wins. You can be sure aid from the US will be reduced if there is a MAGA victory in the midterms. EU countries may well stop being as generous soon. The tragedy is that at the end of the day we may simply return to the situation that existed before the war began.
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@neosapienz7885 You are a brainwashed fool. Russia is protecting itself from US aggression. Is it supposed just to sit back and take it? Any decent person who is neither Ukrainian nor Russian should take a step back and then support any action which brings an end to this dreadful war. This means being extremely sceptical about the pro-Ukrainian stance foisted upon us by the corrupt Western MSM. You, like so many others, seem to have sucked it up somewhat uncritically. Use your brain for once and try to see the broader picture.
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