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Very interesting and informative. Thankyou.
My theory, for what it's worth, is that all this was happening inside John Dee's head. He obviously had an incredible brain and it is possible that a part of it invented the whole language, the conversation with angels and so on - but on a subconscious level. As there are attested cases of multiple personalities unknown to one another occupying a single person, Dr John Dee, the courtier and scholar, could not acknowledge the existence of this other self and so he needed another individual to focus upon. His scryer.
He was thus able to deal with the material his subconscious other self was producing by imagining it to have an exterior reality, conveyed to him via Kelly and the others. It's all about trying to find meanings in numbers and arrangements of symbols which look as though they ought to be there, but in fact aren't. Dee had a split personality, crudely put, and his rational personality refused to recognise the irrational aspect, and so he was forced to exteriorise it in this manner.
I enjoyed the video very much and the above is merely a suggestion, of course.
I have one very minor criticism: although the sequence of illustrations was generally apt and excellent they did show the Elizabethan spy network reaching Australia a couple of hundred years before it was discovered and Dee arriving in London by train a couple of hundred years or so before they were invented.
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@Think666_ I cannot understand your thermometer analogy. Analogies are slippery customers at the best of times, but that one is off the scale.
I prefer saws to analogies The one about the road to hell being full of good intentions fits this case quite admirably.
The peoples of Ukraine and Georgia, like their cousins in more Western parts, have had their eyes and imaginations filled with the glittering prospects of a better life. For the Westerners this has been relatively harmless (although many Greeks might disagree, to say nothing of the Irish) but for Ukraine and Georgia, still with close relations to the much reduced but still powerful Russia, a transition is fraught with difficulties.
Russia cannot be expected to surrender resources and markets created with Russian investment and Russian labour merely on the whim of populations dazzled by questionable advertising methods.
Russia, being Russia, will take steps to prevent this, and when all else fails, will put the boot in.
I will probably shock you by saying that in several instances they have every right to do so, in my my humble opinion. They are far more entitled to enjoy the benefits of the coalmines and lithium deposits of Donbass, for example, than are asset management companies such as BlackRock.
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@roshnisingh3418 Take your pick.
Where the US has invaded in the past 100 years
1914-1918 - a series of invasions of Mexico.
1914-1934 - Haiti. After numerous uprisings, America brings in its troops, the occupation continues for 19 years.
1916-1924 - 8-year occupation of the Dominican Republic.
1917-1933 - military occupation of Cuba, economic protectorate.
1917-1918 - participation in the 1st World War.
1918-1922 - intervention in Russia. In total, 14 states participated in it.
Active support was provided to the territories that separated from Russia - Kolchakia and the Far Eastern Republic.
1918-1920 - Panama. After the elections, troops are brought in to quell the riots.
1919 - COSTA RICA. ... The landing of US troops to "protect American interests."
1919 - American troops fight on the side of Italy against the Serbs in Dolmatia.
1919 - American troops enter Honduras during elections.
1920 - Guatemala. 2-week intervention.
1921 - American support for militants fighting to overthrow Guatemalan President Carlos Herrera for the benefit of the United Fruit Company.
1922 - intervention in Turkey.
1922-1927 - American troops in China during the popular uprising.
1924-1925 - Honduras. Troops invade the country during elections.
1925 - Panama. US troops break up a general strike.
1926 - Nicaragua. Invasion.
1927-1934 - American troops stationed throughout China.
1932 - invasion of El Salvador from the sea. There was an uprising at that time.
1937 - Nicaragua. With the help of American troops, the dictator Somoza comes to power, having removed the legitimate government of H. Sakasa.
1939 - the introduction of troops into China.
1947-1949 - Greece. American troops are involved in the civil war, supporting the Nazis.
1948-1953 - military operations in the Philippines.
1950 - Uprising in Puerto Rico is suppressed by American troops.
1950-1953 - armed intervention in Korea about a million American soldiers.
1958 - Lebanon. The occupation of the country, the fight against the rebels.
1958 - confrontation with Panama.
1959 - America sends troops to Laos, the first clashes of American troops in Vietnam begin.
1959 - Haiti. The suppression of a popular uprising against the pro-American government.
1960 - after José Maria Velasco was elected president of Ecuador and refused to comply with US demands to break off relations with Cuba, the Americans carried out several military operations and organized a coup.
1960 - US troops enter Guatemala to prevent the removal of a US puppet from power.
1965-1973 - military aggression against Vietnam.
1966 - Guatemala. ... US troops entered the country, massacres of Indians were arranged, who were considered potential rebels.
1966 - military assistance to the pro-American governments of Indonesia and the Philippines. ... (60,000 people were arrested for political reasons, 88 torture specialists officially worked under the government).
1971-1973 - bombing of Laos.
1972 - Nicaragua. American troops are brought in to support the government, beneficial to Washington.
1983 - military intervention in Grenada, about 2 thousand marines.
1986 - attack on Libya. Bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi.
1988 - US invasion of Honduras
1988 - The USS Vincennes, which was in the Persian Gulf, shot down an Iranian plane with 290 passengers on board, including 57 children.
1989 - US troops quell riots in the Virgin Islands.
1991 - large-scale military action against Iraq
1992-1994 - occupation of Somalia. Armed violence against civilians, killings of civilians.
1998 - Sudan. The Americans destroy a pharmaceutical plant with missiles, claiming that it produces nerve gas.
1999 - ignoring the norms of international law, bypassing the UN and the Security Council, the United States launched a 78-day air bombardment campaign by NATO forces against the sovereign state of Yugoslavia.
2001 - invasion of Afghanistan.
2003 - bombing of Iraq.
2011 - Libya.
2014 Syria US and allied invasion of Syria
2015 Yemen US missile strikes on Yemeni Houthi rebel positions and active support for the intervention of Saudi Arabia and its allies in Yemen
2015 Cameroon US military operation in Cameroon
2015 Libya Second intervention in Libya
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@The_ZeroLine The Bradleys won't arrive until next year at the earliest according to the Americans, and the British Challengers are non-operational because they have been in storage for so long. And where are those Leopards?
The willingness to continually supply the Ukrainian war effort is fading rapidly. All they are getting is fine words and promises.
The Ukrainians have fought magnificently, but it really is time to call it a day. Although it is entirely possible, as you say, that there are 40,000 newly-trained soldiers in reserve, Russia has an estimate half-million called up, all of whom will have completed up to four years prior military service. They will be poorly equipped and poorly led but they will still soak up whatever Ukraine has left to throw at them, while tightly-run and fanatical units, such as Wagner and the Chechens, are on hand to do the serious fighting.
Don't get me wrong - this could go either way, but Russia only wants the mineral-rich and Russian speaking parts of Eastern Ukraine, just to stop the Americans having access to them as much as anything.
Ukraine needs a new government which can talk to Russia and hammer out a compromise before both countries are bled dry.
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The climate crisis is a scam. By restricting the amount of carbon industry is allowed to produce, permissions to produce it are of great and varying value. Hedge fund managers are now making vast fortunes by trading in these permissions.The so-called science behind the scam is attractive enough in its way, but exists only in the laboratory and in computer models, Data obtained through measurement is routinely manipulated to fit the theory. There is no empirical evidence that man-made carbon emissions affect the climate in any way.
There is, however, considerable empirical evidence that the climate in the quite recent past was warmer than it is today.The Medieval Warm Period is a fact of history and now those scientists who are in on the scam, and are profiting from it, have failed to airbrush it from the records they are attempting to claim that it was small and localised. This report in Nature is, broadly speaking,, a part of this strategy.
Evidence of the MWP, or indeed of the earlier Roman Warming Period, is obviously far greater in Europe because this is where we get our history from. New evidence from China and Japan giving details of the crops grown at the time are, however, showing very clearly that it was warm there too. Tree ring evidence from the USA and Canada also supports the case.
Obviously evidence that it was warmer for at least two quite lengthy periods of time during the past two thousand years than it is today entirely scuppers the climate crisis theory and the vast profits to be made from demonising carbon and restricting its output through legislation. Although some scientists are in on the scam, very many others are duped into supporting it by the intellectually stimulating nature of the research and further coerced by the fact that unless they follow the party line they will very soon be out of a job. Ignorant journalists and hysterical commentators add greatly to the scam and its grip upon the fearful public.
For measured accounts and citations of the facts outlined above I suggest viewers go to the work of Tony Heller and 1000frolly Phd.
The skeletons of Vikings who farmed Greenland in places that are now barren snow-covered rock have been found pierced and twisted by the roots of the trees that were planted on their graves.
The solar system, bound together by forces of gravity and magnetism beyond our comprehension is speeding and spiraling through space at many millions of miles per hour, passing through clouds of elemental particles the function and purpose of which we are equally ignorant. Do you not think it more likely that the earth's changing climate over the millennia is due to the effects of this awesome and ancient dance than it is to the piffling farts and burps of we tiny, concieted and frequently misguided humans?
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Talk about fake news! Man-made climate change is a con-trick cleverly thought up by Marxist globalists, promoted by duplicitous scientists and journalists and sadly taken as gospel by millions.
Your hot air balloons were a clever image. Here's another one.
Imagine a large room; a classroom perhaps, and imagine it contains the earth's atmosphere. The amount of carbon in that atmosphere would scarcely fill a standard-size box of Rice Krispies and Britain's industrial contribution would amount to one Rice Krispie.
Do the maths yourselves. Climate cultists claim that the carbon content of the atmosphere now runs at 400 parts per million if that helps. The fact that they take readings around active volcanoes is neither here nor there, I suppose.
Oddly enough we weren't there to take readings millions of years ago so we rely on 'proxy' data.- by testing the contents of ice cores. These show carbon contents ranging from 150ppm to 300ppm. This would appear to show that, yes, the carbon content of the atmosphere has shot up dramatically of late and that, coincidentally, this has occurred at the same time as the industrial revolution. It's just another coincidence that we've only had the equipment to measure these levels since the industrial revolution.
Should the ice-core measurements turn out be inaccurate then the whole shooting match goes up in smoke.
Testing prehistoric carbon levels by other means, such as the remains of long-buried leaves, show them to be much closer to modern levels..
If I had the money I'd buy a house jn Fairbourn when prices drop. Al Gore, the first Apostle of this new religion has just bought himself a coastal home in Florida, incidentally, at a location which according to his earnest predictions should be under tens of metres of water by now.
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@anastasiawhite7482 This a brief extract from the UN report on the war in Donbass published by Human Rights Online in 2021.
Were the events of 2014 onwards not published much in Ukraine? Did you not know of this?
Methods of torture and ill-treatment on both sides of the conflict line included beatings, dry and wet asphyxiation, electrocution, sexual violence on men and women (rape, forced nudity and violence to the genitals), positional torture, water, food, sleep or toilet deprivation, isolation, mock executions, prolonged use of handcuffs, hooding and threats of death or further torture or sexual violence or harm to family members.
Among Government actors, the most common perpetrator of arbitrary detention and torture was the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU). During the initial phases of the conflict, “volunteer battalions” were also regular perpetrators.
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Lies, all lies. The last 16 years are NOT the hottest ever recorded, and even if they were, so what? Reliable records only began in the late 19th century. What is a fact is that average temperature has not increased one jot over those 16 years. Commandeering pseudo-science for political gain is morally reprehensible.
A few fun facts for you:
*Although no-one, as far we know, was keeping records in Roman times they were certainly growing grapes for wine up against Hadrian's Wall in Northern England in locations where these days you'd be hard-pressed to grow potatoes. And what about all those bare knees?!
Similarily, during The Medieaval warm period hundreds and hundreds of castles were built in Northern Europe which became virtually uninhabitable after the Mediterranean-style climate was suddenly replaced by the Little Ice Age, which began in the mid 14th century and lasted until the mid 19th, at which time Christmas Fairs were being held on the frozen River Thames in London. (They featured large bonfires to keep people warm) Unless witchcraft was involved there is no possible human involvement which could have affected these weather conditions.
* There is no scientific proof that increased carbon emissions lead to increases in temperature. They go hand in hand sure, but detailed study shows that temperature rise comes FIRST.
*Q. If the earth's atmosphere was contained in an average-sized high school classroom what size of box would you need to contain all the carbon atoms?
A: A Rice Crispies box.
*Q: If the US was to decide to destroy itself by reducing carbon emissions to close to zero, how many rice crispies would be removed as a result?
A: One, or possibly one and a bit.
*Q: If all the exhaust emissions of all the vehicles on all the roads in the world over a 24-hour period were reduced in atmospheric scale to fit the classroom, how many matches would you have to strike to equate the amount of carbon thus released into the atmosphere?
A: One.
*Q: How do we know that there was less carbon in the atmosphere all those thousands and thousand of years ago?
A: We don't, obviously. The figures are based on guesswork relying on the examination of icecores. If the science is flawed and the estimates are wrong then the whole man-made global-warming hypothesis goes up in smoke.
Q. Do we calculate present-day atmospheric carbon levels using this method?
A: No. We can't. It takes several hundred years before the ice is compacted enough. Instead we take carbon levels in the atmosphere, usually at sea-level and often near to volcanoes where the carbon levels higher. I wonder why?
Q: How long does a carbon molecule remain in the atmosphere after being emitted from earth?
A: About five years.
Jolly hockey sticks!
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@T5Zplayer
America's record:
1914-1918 - a series of invasions of Mexico.
1914-1934 - Haiti. After numerous uprisings, America brings in its troops, the occupation continues for 19 years.
1916-1924 - 8-year occupation of the Dominican Republic.
1917-1933 - military occupation of Cuba, economic protectorate.
1917-1918 - participation in the 1st World War.
1918-1922 - intervention in Russia. In total, 14 states participated in it.
Active support was provided to the territories that separated from Russia - Kolchakia and the Far Eastern Republic.
1918-1920 - Panama. After the elections, troops are brought in to quell the riots.
1919 - COSTA RICA. ... The landing of US troops to "protect American interests."
1919 - American troops fight on the side of Italy against the Serbs in Dalmatia.
1919 - American troops enter Honduras during elections.
1920 - Guatemala. 2-week intervention.
1921 - American support for militants fighting to overthrow Guatemalan President Carlos Herrera for the benefit of the United Fruit Company.
1922 - intervention in Turkey.
1922-1927 - American troops in China during the popular uprising.
1924-1925 - Honduras. Troops invade the country during elections.
1925 - Panama. US troops break up a general strike.
1926 - Nicaragua. Invasion.
1927-1934 - American troops stationed throughout China.
1932 - invasion of El Salvador from the sea. There was an uprising at that time.
1937 - Nicaragua. With the help of American troops, the dictator Somoza comes to power, having removed the legitimate government of H. Sakasa.
1939 - the introduction of troops into China.
1947-1949 - Greece. American troops are involved in the civil war, supporting the Nazis.
1948-1953 - military operations in the Philippines.
1950 - Uprising in Puerto Rico is suppressed by American troops.
1950-1953 - armed intervention in Korea about a million American soldiers.
1958 - Lebanon. The occupation of the country, the fight against the rebels.
1958 - confrontation with Panama.
1959 - America sends troops to Laos, the first clashes of American troops in Vietnam begin.
1959 - Haiti. The suppression of a popular uprising against the pro-American government.
1960 - after José Maria Velasco was elected president of Ecuador and refused to comply with US demands to break off relations with Cuba, the Americans carried out several military operations and organized a coup.
1960 - US troops enter Guatemala to prevent the removal of a US puppet from power.
1965-1973 - military aggression against Vietnam.
1966 - Guatemala. ... US troops entered the country, massacres of Indians were arranged, who were considered potential rebels.
1966 - military assistance to the pro-American governments of Indonesia and the Philippines. ... (60,000 people were arrested for political reasons, 88 torture specialists officially worked under the government).
1971-1973 - bombing of Laos.
1972 - Nicaragua. American troops are brought in to support the government, beneficial to Washington.
1983 - military intervention in Grenada, about 2 thousand marines.
1986 - attack on Libya. Bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi.
1988 - US invasion of Honduras
1988 - The USS Vincennes, which was in the Persian Gulf, shot down an Iranian plane with 290 passengers on board, including 57 children.
1989 - US troops quell riots in the Virgin Islands.
1991 - large-scale military action against Iraq
1992-1994 - occupation of Somalia. Armed violence against civilians, killings of civilians.
1998 - Sudan. The Americans destroy a pharmaceutical plant with missiles, claiming that it produces nerve gas.
1999 - ignoring the norms of international law, bypassing the UN and the Security Council, the United States launched a 78-day air bombardment campaign by NATO forces against the sovereign state of Yugoslavia.
2001 - invasion of Afghanistan.
2003 - bombing of Iraq.
2011 - Libya.
2014 Syria US and allied invasion of Syria
2015 Yemen US missile strikes on Yemeni Houthi rebel positions and active support for the intervention of Saudi Arabia and its allies in Yemen
2015 Cameroon US military operation in Cameroon
2015 Libya Second intervention in Libya
.......and so on and so on and so on.
Might mention estimated $25billion on arming Ukraine to fight Russia.
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@Rjsjrjsjrjsj It does seem unlikely - but I Googled the 2021 estimate and got this:
"Altogether the Armed Forces of Ukraine included about 780,000 personnel, 6,500 tanks, about 7,000 combat armored vehicles, 1,500 combat aircraft, and more than 350 ships."
The simple answer is no-one outside of the top military in Ukraine actually knows.
NATO is accused of paying huge sums to rebuild the Ukrainian army post 2014, even so this seems a huge number, as does the figure of 600,000 new personnel constantly put forward by Col Douglas Macgregor.
But you never know.
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@MadSwede87 A number of studies have come to this inescapable conclusion.
Analysis conducted by Eurostat found that excess mortality rates across the European Union rose by 19 per cent in December 2022, compared to the average number of deaths in the same period between 2016 and 2019.
According to EuroMOMO, over 101,000 deaths were recorded in December 2022, compared to 109,000 recorded in 2020, when SARS-COV-2 was in high circulation in Europe.
So, despite the fact that the number of deaths attributed to covid has dropped dramatically, excess deaths from other causes in December (and even now) are much higher than at any time in the past five years.
If you actually are Swedish you will be pleased to learn that your country's excess death rate is only around 9% compared with , say, Germany where it has reached over 40% in recent weeks.
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@michaeldunham3385 The parts of the present country of Ukraine which Putin wants back are Russian, and have been for hundreds of years, apart from times when they were occupied by the Ottoman Turks.
The Russian Bolsheviks, and later Nikita Krushchev, stuck them on to the Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine (which was controlled by Russia) partly for administrative reasons and partly to outweigh Ukrainian nationalist votes in the governing body of the SSR. But they remained Russian, with very substantial Russian populations..
With the collapse of the Soviet Union the foolish decision was taken to make the new country of Ukraine, independent of Russia, contain these Russian areas. This was asking for trouble, and trouble we have got.
Putin's original demands were for Crimea( which welcomed a return to Russia) to be acknowledged as being Russian, while the two republics in Donbass became independent, and thus not be included if Ukraine joined the EU.
This is particularly important since these areas are immensely rich in mineral wealth, which has been exploited by Russia, using Russian labour, for centuries. If Ukraine joined the EU these resources would be removed from Russian control.
So all Putin is doing is trying to protect his country's interests and his countrymen's well-being - which I regard as being very reasonable.
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@tvdinner325 It isn't my army, I'm English. But I also take the trouble to investigate all sides of the story, rather than just swallow unquestioningly what the politicos and the media hand out.
So far things seem to be going to plan for the Russians. They threw a load of old equipment and relatively untrained troops into the fray, and used them to soak up as much of the Ukrainian army as they could. Their reserve army, consisting of the Wagner Group, elite parachute brigades , veterans of Syria plus the two Donbass armies and the Chechen mercenaries, have remained in Donbass, along with more modern equipment.
A second army is already stationed in Belarus. This will move in some time soon and threaten Kiev, causing the Ukrainians to divide their depleted forces. This will probably happen as soon as the ground freezes hard down south, and the Russian elite forces stationed there will try to take the entire Donbass and land to the West on the left bank of the Dneiper.
It could all go horribly wrong, of course, but it's a mistake to think this war is anything like over.
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@Think666_ The justification is a commercial one. Errors were made in drawing up post-Soviet boundaries and as long as these new "countries" continued to form close ties with Russia then things could jog along reasonably peaceably. Pressures from Western agencies, however, have affected this uneasy status quo and are probably the main, if not sole, cause of dissent leading to war.
In Ukraine these agencies have persuaded Kiev (guess how) to allow the possibility of considerable resources being transferred out of Russian hands, leading to a substantial reduction in Russia's income. This Russia will simply not put up with, and understandably so. Lines drawn on maps and treaties signed by drunkards amid the collapse of an empire do not counterbalance centuries of history and investment. Respecting these boundaries is easy enough if doing so brings you benefit - not so much if it takes the bread out of your mouth.
As to the opinions of the residents of these areas these are well-nigh impossible to ascertain. All one can say is that they are deeply divided, but in what proportion corruption and fear of reprisal make any accurate assessment extremely difficult to obtain.
I think one can say with some confidence, however, that almost anything would be better for these people than the agonies they are suffering over what is, as I say, a quarrel over the ownership of resources.
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@riveness The category is not smaller, and it wouldn't matter if it was. Anyway, the report does not seek to turn the issue into a competition, as you seem to want to.
The Muslim grooming gangs are in a different category to priests who abuse children, or institutions where abuse is tolerated and commonplace. It is a no better or worse category (how could it be?) but it is one which, by its very nature, needs to be treated separately.
The reports chief conclusion, of course, is that the nature of these offences makes it relatively easy for them to be shoved under the carpet. The reasons for this are various, but in the case of the Muslim gangs they are transparently due to the fact that the perpetrators are, indeed, Muslim.
These men are not high-profile figures. The institution which protects them has, as yet, no particular high status in the establishment. They are Muslims and the reason that more of them are not in jail is that the authorities are afraid of being accused of racism, or of losing Muslim votes in elections.
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@diarmuidkelleher5319 You are moderately graceful in defeat, but you do seem remarkably incapable of following any logical sequence of thought.
They faked a story to get a story. The faked story wasn't the story.
Here are some stories for you:
1000 people voted twice in georgia
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-official-claims-1-000-people-illegally-voted-twice-in-primaries/ar-BB18PGvz?li=BB141NW3
Mail truck catches fire destroying thousands of ballots
https://amp.dailyrecord.com/amp/3257291001
200,000 ballots sent to wrong addresses in nevada
https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-08-10-more-than-200000-ballots-in-nevada-mailed-to-the-wrong-addresses/
Entire NJ election called a do over due to ballot fraud
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/paterson-press/2020/08/11/paterson-nj-election-rivals-agree-do-over-council-election/3343160001/
New jersey man votes 3 times
https://patch.com/new-hampshire/concord-nh/new-hampshire-man-arrested-vote-fraud-charge
Republican + 4 others charged in ballot fraud
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/kansas-republican-charged-with-three-felonies-in-voter-fraud-investigation/2020/07/14/7d0fe8c2-c629-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html
200,000 purged from rolls in New york
https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/campaigns-elections/new-york-city-purged-voters-2016-it-wasnt-mistake.html
Deceased cat receives ballot
https://apnews.com/fbcec393dc652a9ccdb2cc8aacb15895
NY election disaster, over a month to count ballots , ballots lost n desytoyed
https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yorks-mail-vote-disaster-11595286912
Man charged for voting in 3 elections using his dead mother
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-18/la-county-man-accused-of-voting-in-three-elections-as-his-dead-mother
10s of thousands of ballots thrown out
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tens-of-thousands-of-mail-ballots-have-been-tossed-out-in-this-years-primaries-what-will-happen-in-november/2020/07/16/fa5d7e96-c527-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html
100,000 ballots thrown out in California
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2020/0714/Why-California-threw-out-100-000-mail-in-primary-ballots
23,000 thrown out in Wisconsin
https://www.apmreports.org/story/2020/07/23/wisconsin-absentee-ballot-rejections
Thousands of ballots thown out due to tardiness
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/13/889751095/signed-sealed-undelivered-thousands-of-mail-in-ballots-rejected-for-tardiness
Mail in ballot experiment fails with lost , late n damaged ballots
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vote-by-mail-ballot-counted-election/
Woman arrested forging ballots
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plymouth-township-woman-charged-with-election-law-forgery-over-absentee-voter-ballot
As the new York times claims ballots are secure in 2020, in 2012 they wrote they were extremely open to fraud
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/us/politics/as-more-vote-by-mail-faulty-ballots-could-impact-elections.html
28,000,000 ballots lost in last 3 elections
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html
Postal worker arrested for changing party affiliation on ballots
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/506869-postal-worker-pleads-guilty-to-election-fraud-after-changing
18,000 ballots not counted in Florida's primary
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/06/29/more-than-18000-mail-ballots-not-counted-in-floridas-march-presidential-preference-primary/
Thosands of ballots left on floor of building in North jersey
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/passaic/paterson/2020/08/14/paterson-nj-election-ballots-were-left-floor-post-office-says/5582951002/
Investigation as piles of mail found dumped in parking lot in california
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/515442-investigation-underway-after-bags-of-mail-found-dumped-in-los-angeles
1.6 million more voters than are registered in 19 california counties .. L.A county has 117% voter registration
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/07/five_states_face_federal_lawsuit_over_inaccurate_voter_registrations__142089.html
500,000 legit ballots in Virginia labelled with wrong return addresses
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/verify-wrong-mail-in-ballots-fairfax-virginia/65-94c4847c-63fb-4a93-bac5-9bb45df00a8d
Glitch sends duplicate ballots in pittsburg Allegheny county
https://www.wesa.fm/post/glitch-sends-duplicate-ballots-voters-system-prevents-double-voting-county-says#stream/0
Detroit elections where 72% of absentee votes do not match registered voters
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/20/benson-asked-investigate-detroit-perfect-storm-voting-problems/5616629002/
80,000 ballots dissappeared in baltimore
https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-voting-snafu-update-20180625-story.html
New York voting official warns people will use dead people to vote
https://www.newsweek.com/mail-voting-ballots-deceased-1531481
Michigan secretary misprinted military absentee ballots . 400 already issued
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/09/president-trump-goes-after-michigan-secretary-of-state-again-over-ballot-misprint.html
Mail in ballots found in road ditch in Wisconsin
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/23/mailed-in-ballots-found-tossed-in-wisconsin-ditch/
4 officials arrested in ballot harvesting scheme
https://www.kltv.com/2020/09/24/gregg-county-commissioner-others-arrested-alleged-vote-harvesting-scheme/
9 military mail in ballots thrown in dumpster in PA
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/poconos-coal/fbi-psp-probing-9-discarded-ballots-in-luzerne-county/article_249405da-fea4-11ea-a8d7-b7faa419550f.html
134 felony voter fraud charges announced in Dem primary
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-attorney-general-ken-paxton-voter-fraud
New Yorkers receiving ballots with wrong names and adresses
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518682-new-yorkers-report-receiving-ballots-with-wrong-name-voter-addresses
Queens voters receiving military ballots
https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/nyc-voters-wrongly-getting-mail-in-ballots-marked-for-military-use/
Sun sentinel detailing Florida voting fraud
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-com-menge-mail-in-ballots-fraud-florida-20200416-hanmbneuendpbaftyktpactlga-story.html
Ballot harvesting scam exposed in minneapolis
https://nypost.com/2020/09/29/minneapolis-police-probing-alleged-ballot-harvesting-claims/
1 in 4 election officials quit due to the new election law and chaos of mail in ballots
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/mail-ballot-law-pennsylvania-has-driven-out-nearly-quarter-state-n1240504
Texas Official arrested on felony election fraud charges
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-official-arrested-felony-election-fraud-charges-could-face-99-year-sentence-1534183
Patterson city council official arrested along with 4 others in ballot fraud scheme
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/paterson-city-council-vice-president-among-4-charged-with-voting-fraud-in-may-special-election-nj-ag/2484797/
Yes America! Plenty of voter fraud
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/yes-america-there-voter-fraud-these-recent-cases-prove-it
D.C voters receiving ballots for ex residents with some receiving up to 5 multiple ballots
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-voters-are-being-sent-mail-in-ballots-for-ex-residents
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@captainswing4487 I'm British as it happens.
From my point of view Trump, far from weaponising Republican policies has merely sidestepped them. He is a Republican in name only. He is not even a politician. He is a businessman who has arrived at the White House with no political debts to pay off, which is why the establishment fear him so greatly.
I suffered briefly from Trump Derangement Syndrome in the early days, but I recovered quite quickly when I realised the staggering amount of lies being told about this man.
He is no saint. I doubt he has read a book in his life, He is an unashamed narcissist and liar but he is genuine patriot. Deciding to become President was more or less a whim, but having got there he decided to run the country on sound business lines and it was working very well until the unexpected horrors of Covid 19 appeared.
He is not a racist or a white supremacist. He is a bit of crook, but so is everyone else at the top of the American tree to some extent or another. Compared with Elizabeth Warren, say, or the Clintons and of course Joe Biden, he is a positive saint.
If Biden gets in America will collapse into chaos. An estimated 84% of the estimated $1.5 billion raised by BLM in recent months has gone to help his campaign. They will want reimbursing. Proponents of the Green New Deal will also want payback for their support. Over five million guns have been bought by private citizens since the BLM riots got under way. We are looking at the most volatile situation the US has faced since the start of the Civil War.
And to have a President who can scarcely remember his own name in charge......Well. lets hope Donny gets back in, that's all I can say.
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Urrcreavesh Oh dear! You are showing the usual signs of Carbonophope Derangement Syndrome which occur when your bubble is prodded. You want citations, go to to 1000frolly Phd who will give you,at great length , all the details of the many scientific papers he has read during the course of his research. Google Viking bodies for yourself.
Shoestring budgets! Do't make me laugh - an estimated billion dollars a day is being spent on climate crisis garbage. The fossil fuel industry is just shrugging and adapting by making money from such nonsenses as coal-powered (electric) cars and wind turbines, each one of which costs far more in terms of carbon released into the atmosphere by the manufacture of their vast foundations than will be saved by their operation. You can check this out too, but I bet you're too chicken-shit scared to try a bit of research yourself. You'd much rather go through life believing the brainwashed bullshit doled out by you virtue-signalling schoolteachers.
Of course the chemistry of tropospheric refraction is sound, and has been understood for many years. What is not clear, however, is to what extent the nature of that refraction is affected by the introduction of increased carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The results of laboratory experiments vary. Of course ice-core proxy data shows that increased carbon dioxide emissions follow increased temperatures by 5-800 years, which is an experiment hard to replicate. Indications are, incidentally, that carbon only stays in the air from for five years or so anyway.
It's not your fault you're the way you are. It's just the way you've been brought up.
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@sardo.numspa How can keeping hold of resources you already possess be described as "imperial gains." ? Russia is fighting to keep hold of what it already has, and has had for many years, not attempting to gain anything new.
The problem has arisen because the new country of Ukraine, created in 1991, was set on the same footprint of the former Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine which was a Russian creation, under Russian control. Before that the whole area was part of the Russian Empire. The idea of a country called "Ukraine" is a romantic notion created in the 19th century and, as worthy as that idea may be, it cannot include parts of what has never been Ukraine, other than parts of the Russian-controlled SSR of Ukraine.
So long as the government of the new Ukraine acknowledged Russian interests then Russia could go along with this unsatisfactory state of affairs
That all changed in 2014 and these "annexations" are, in fact, Russian attempts to prevent territory they consider to be theirs being handed over to US and European interests.
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@edwinstubbs2118 I believe you are incorrect. From Statista: "The combined defense expenditure for members of NATO was approximately 1.2 trillion U.S. dollars in 2022, the highest NATO members have collectively spent on defense during the provided time period. During this time period NATO's collective defense spending was lowest in 2015, at 895.68 billion dollars, but has increased every year since then, reaching over one trillion U.S. dollars for the first time in 2019."
In any case NATO is obviously too scared to confront Russia head on, and so pursues American and European financial interest through proxy wars, such as in Georgia and now in Ukraine.
The objective is clearly the dissolution of the Russian Federation in order to gain access primarily to the vast mineral resources available. It is part of a clear strategy of monopolar. US-centred globalism. The current target is Donbass but this ambition, pursued doggedly since the collapse of the Soviet Union, has been characterised by a gradual eastward spread of NATO countries, fuelled and accompanied by covert destabilisation in some areas, and deliberate exaggeration of the threat posed by Russia in others.
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@indricotherium4802 On my planet epidemiologists believe that since covid 19 is what they call a heterogonous rather than a homogenous infection, treating it as though everyone has the same chance of catching it, and the same chance of dying from it, is very foolish indeed.
They look at your planet and see collapsed economies, children dying from TB and malaria, middle aged people dying from untreated cancers and heart conditions and teenagers developing eating disorders and committing suicide, and they shake their heads in despair. They see how by spinning the progress of the disease out for month after month in vain attempts to contain it you have created ideal conditions for the virus to mutate, thanks to evolution and the power of immense numbers.
On my planet we spent a fraction of what you spent on nonsensical and pointless test and trace systems and compensation for the financial consequences of of lockdowns and instead provided those people vulnerable to death and severe outcomes with protective equipment in the shape of isolation tents and hazmat suits. Then all the fit young people went to parties and caught what was, to them, nothing worse than a dose of flu.
They became immune and this created a wall of immunity through which the virus could find no pathway. Being deprived of hosts, it rapidly died out and we got back on with our lives.
Even on your planet where vaccines, although ineffective in the long term, ensure that fit and healthy people now suffer only a cold rather the flu, you still persist in believing that a virus which numbers three times the amount of stars in the visible universe can be beaten by making people walk six feet apart with bits of cloth over their faces.
It really is very sad.
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@davidfaraday7963 We are flogging a dead horse when it comes to the 2020 election. Your need to believe that it was all open and above board is as deeply ingrained as is my conviction that it was a massive fraud. As I say; it doesn't matter any more.
The videos showing the transfer of memory sticks are included in the Georgia evidence, as are the videos of the "under the table" votes. Mostly the deceptions were carried out with surveillance being obscured. The Georgia team missed a few cameras. As for the voting machines; if as you claim, you have seen the state senate hearing footage, you will have seen how operators can alter results with a few simple procedures.
But, as I repeat, this is all now a matter for historical investigation. What happens next is what is important.
You are clearly bought into the Trump Derangement Syndrome nexus. I do not worship Donald Trump. Nor do most people who support him. We are generally fully aware of his faults, but we know that he is the only solid bastion against the utter collapse of traditional Western values currently being engineered by forces dedicated to their replacement by a new moral, financial and political ideology.
Trump is not a lying, narcissistic bully. He is an everyday Joe who happens to have been born into great wealth and to be possessed of a certain amount of natural cunning.
He is, perhaps, an unlikely hero put forward by destiny to defend humanity. But he's all we've got.
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@atso1981 I think you misjudge the situation, and are unduly pessimistic. NATO was created to protect the West against Soviet Communist expansion. The collapse of the SU has made it irrelevant. Furthermore, Putin has merely protected Russian interests in Chechnya, Georgia and now in Ukraine - not sought to extend them.
It seems to me that globalists have a need for perpetual war in order to advance their ideology. Neither Trump nor Putin adhere to this. Your assessment of history is incorrect, by the way.
Russia was never formally in an alliance with NATO, but there was a period of cooperation. In 1997, the NATO-Russia Founding Act was signed, establishing the NATO-Russia Permanent Joint Council to foster dialogue and collaboration on security issues This was replaced in 2002 by the NATO-Russia Council, which aimed to deepen cooperation.
However, Russia did not have a "seat" in NATO, as it was not a member of the alliance. Instead, the agreements were about partnership and cooperation, not membership. While the Founding Act emphasized principles like refraining from the use of force and respecting sovereignty, it did not explicitly require Russia to allow former Soviet states to join NATO. NATO's open-door policy allowed countries to apply for membership if they met certain criteria, and decisions were made by NATO members.
Relations between NATO and Russia deteriorated significantly after events like the Russo-Georgian War in 2008 and the annexation of Crimea in 2014, leading to the suspension of practical cooperation.
Both sides are at fault in the collapse of these agreements. It is foolish to continually blame things on personalities.
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@becauseiam7915
Mask mandate and use efficacy for COVID-19 containment in US States
Damian D. Guerra1,*, Daniel J. Guerra2
1Department of Biology, University of Louisville, Louisville, Kentucky, United States of America;
2Authentic Biochemistry, VerEvMed, Clarkston, Washington, United States of America
Background: COVID-19 pandemic mitigation requires evidence-based strategies. Because COVID-19 can spread via respired droplets, most US states mandated mask use in public settings. Randomized control trials have not clearly demonstrated mask efficacy against respiratory viruses, and observational studies conflict on whether mask use predicts lower infection rates. We hypothesized that statewide mask mandates and mask use were associated with lower COVID-19 case growth rates in the United States.
Methods: We calculated total COVID-19 case growth and mask use for the continental United States with data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. We estimated post-mask mandate case growth in non-mandate states using median issuance dates of neighboring states with mandates.
Results: Earlier mask mandates were not associated with lower total cases or lower maximum growth rates. Earlier mandates were weakly associated with lower minimum COVID-19 growth rates. Mask use predicted lower minimum but not lower maximum growth rates. Growth rates and total growth were comparable between US states in the first and last mask use quintiles during the Fall-Winter wave. These observations persisted for both natural logarithmic and fold growth models and when adjusting for differences in US state population density.
Conclusions: We did not observe association between mask mandates or use and reduced COVID-19 spread in US states. COVID-19 mitigation requires further research and use of existing efficacious strategies, most notably vaccination.
Keywords: COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, face covering, medical mask, mask mandate, nonpharmaceutical intervention
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"Racism" is just too broad a term. It is a beast of several varieties, some quite sinister, some quite absurd and some quite innocuous.
It is, in itself, a perfectly natural evolutionary response to people who look and behave differently. to your group as a whole. Once interbreeding gets under way, then it largely disappears.
The instinctive gut-reaction racism which was prevalent in this country in the latter half of the 20th century has now largely disappeared among younger generations, The "racism" which exists today comes from a perception that we are short of resources and services, and this is due to excessive immigration without sufficient infrastructure being put in place. The feeling is that "we were here first"; we deserve first pick at what resources and services remain.
The ghetto mentality of many immigrants, particularly Moslems, adds greatly to this feeling of disenfranchisement. It is probably safe to say that if our immigrants were exclusively Christian Africans and West Indians or Indian Sikhs and Hindus, then we would not have the problems that we have.
This is an important point to remember when considering Tommy Robinson, who numbers Black people and Sikhs and Hindus among his friends and supporters.
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@Outspoken.Humanist As I said, there are 70 hours of state senate hearings all pointing firmly at fraud, or malpractice at the very least. I append a small sample from one of the Georgia hearings below.
Of course Trump knows about this, so there's no need for sarcasm! It was his lawyer Mayor Giuliani who organised these hearings and it is the material in these hearings which provide a bedrock for all those millions of Americans who believe that fraud took place.
Life is not a cop show or a courtroom drama, all nicely scripted, so broadly speaking what has happened is this:
Courts have refused to hear cases based upon selections from this body of evidence. This was entirely expected since no judge in his right mind would want something as dangerous as this in his courtroom. Trump's lawyers didn't want the cases to go through anyway. Proceedings would take months if not years.
Instead state senates heard the evidence - and accepted a great deal of it in many cases - as raw evidence, but once again without the sanction of legal judgement. They were asked to overthrow the election result, but of course did not do so for much the same reasons as the judges were reluctant to take on cases.
Instead they have generally promised to try to clean up their acts and alternative electors were sent to the college count on the 6th.
Pence could, if he had wished, have accepted these alternative electors but, naturally enough, like the judges and the state senators he was reluctant to take such a serious step.
Where we go from here no-one knows. There is hour upon hour of evidence , much of which I found personally very convincing and so too, apparently do around 39% of Americans.
It is a recipe for tragedy and the first chapter began on Capitol hill on the day the electoral college met.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuD-zlhwD0M&t=8201s
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@user-aero68 I seriously doubt that Putin will run out of men and equipment before Ukraine, whether or not Trump regains office and, very sensibly, manages to call a halt to this madness.
The offers being made to Ukraine might look good on paper, but when you break them down they are not sufficient, I think, to come even close to defeating Russia in real terms. The claims made about Ukraine's re-equipment and Russia's loss of equipment have been greatly exaggerated in both instances, and the latest round of predictions will fall into the same category, I am sure.
As to the causes of the war I lay the blame firmly at the feet of the US and its allies and the Western investment companies who have mistakenly seen the vast mineral wealth of Eastern Ukraine as fruit ripe for the picking. Without this greed Russia and Ukraine could have settled their difficulties without the need for war. Ukraine would certainly not have been in a position to turn down Russia's entirely reasonable demands without being armed by the West.
Eastern Ukraine is far more Russian than it is Ukrainian. The mining and steelmaking industries are operated by and financed by Russia. Putin made it clear years ago that Kiev could ally with the West and join the EU if it wished - but it could not take these resources with it simply because the new country of Ukraine had the same borders of the former Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine, all of which was, in real terms, a Russian vassal.
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@bonnie7898 Nobody is denying it. NATO and the US are quite proud of themselves. This is the introduction to a document from NATO published as a fact sheet 2016:
"Following the September 2014 Wales Summit, NATO Allies have established five Trust Funds to help Ukraine better provide for its
security. "
The US Congressional Research Service provides full details. The US alone gave $24billion prior to the invasion. Other NATO countries have also chipped in a few billion.
Colonel Musienko is not far wrong in his assessment, although it is a good deal more complicated than that. Russia does indeed wish to maintain its influence on Ukraine - or at least on the Eastern part of it.
You might consider this to be only fair since the area has a very large percentage of Russian inhabitants and, perhaps even more significantly, Russia has invested blood, sweat, tears and uncounted billions of roubles in developing the vast mineral resources and industrial potential of Donbass. They are not happy with the Kiev government wanting to sell it off to the Americans, nor with the Americans for bribing the Kiev government so efficiently as to persuade them to do it.
As to interference, after Putin persuaded Yanukovych to veto the EU bid, American agents organised widespread rioting in the streets, even allegedly posting snipers on the rooftops to shoot into the crowds. Yanukovych was forced to flee and was replaced by an interim American puppet, shortly to be replaced by the current American puppet, Zelensky.
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Our attitude to this war is based on a number of false assumptions - assumptions deliberately inculcated into our minds by US warmongers seeking to lay a smokescreen around their real motives.
This is a simple border dispute over resources. Donbass contains at least $13trillion in coal, gas, oil and rare earth minerals. These resources have been developed by and paid for by Russia, using Russian labour.
Even following Ukrainian independence these resources continued to be in Russian ownership for the most part.
Western companies, predominately US owned, have set their sights on obtaining these resources and have persuaded ( guess how) the Zelensky government to arrange for them to be transferred in their ownership.
Russia obviously wishes to prevent this, and peaceful means having failed, has been forced into the grim necessity of war.
Trying to pretend that Putin is Hitler and, at the age of 70+, has decided to recreate the Soviet empire is such bollocks that it defeats me how so many people can think this.
Equally, the idea that this is fight to bring "freedom and democracy" to brave little Ukraine is so naive as to defy comprehension.
You have been sold a pup. The answer is to give Russia what it wants - and which it is entitled to - and call a halt to all this needless killing.
Hopefully, Donald Trump can see this and will set about achieving it without too much hysteria from the ignorant masses.
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@lurker668 From Human Rights Online, the UN report on the war in Donbass published in 2021. This is a brief extract.
Methods of torture and ill-treatment on both sides of the conflict line included beatings, dry and wet asphyxiation, electrocution, sexual violence on men and women (rape, forced nudity and violence to the genitals), positional torture, water, food, sleep or toilet deprivation, isolation, mock executions, prolonged use of handcuffs, hooding and threats of death or further torture or sexual violence or harm to family members.
Among Government actors, the most common perpetrator of arbitrary detention and torture was the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU). During the initial phases of the conflict, “volunteer battalions” were also regular perpetrators.
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@MrDogsledder This has nothing to do with socialist dictatorships. Ukraine was Russian long before 1917.
The Ukrainian people and the Russian people share a common history. Both suffered under communism, but their joint development goes back long before that.
Eastern Ukraine has emerged as more specifically Russian than that section of the country to the west of the Dnieper. It was, after all, once known as little Russia, and to this day has a high percentage of population which identifies as ethnic Russian and speaks Russian as its principle language. In Crimea and the industrial cities of Donbass, for example, the figure is around 70%.. Perhaps more to the point is that the vast mineral resources of Donbass were developed by Russia, using Russian labour, and Russia resents having all that wealth spirited away.
The Budapest Accords, which created the modern country of Ukraine in the early 1990's, failed to acknowledge the complexities of Ukraine's history and merely decided that this new country occupied the same territory as the former Soviet Socialist Republic - which was itself a creation of Soviet Russia.
This has led to enormous difficulties which many attempts have been made to resolve. Unfortunately America and other Western agencies have seized this opportunity to attempt to gain access to the coal, oil, iron and rare minerals which lie under the ground of Donbass. That, in a nutshell, is the cause of the present war.
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@eyeneffjay The UN has released several reports on the conflict in Donbass, highlighting significant human rights violations and potential war crimes since 2014. One notable report from the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine covers the period from 2014 to 2016, detailing widespread killings and a lack of accountability. The report states that the conflict, particularly in Donetsk and Luhansk, resulted in up to 2,000 civilian deaths, with nearly 90% of these deaths caused by indiscriminate shelling of residential areas.
Additionally, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights estimated that from April 2014 to June 2021, the conflict resulted in approximately 42,500-44,500 casualties, including 13,200-13,400 deaths and 29,600-33,600 injuries.
The reports emphasize the rampant impunity for these crimes, with both sides of the conflict being responsible for various human rights abuses.
The initial abuses were carried out by Ukrainian militia in 2014/15. Since then, however, the rebel armies, aided by Wagner, have paid back the Ukrainians threefold.
Perhaps the report you read was Ukrainian propaganda?
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@eyeneffjay The UN has released several reports on the conflict in Donbass, highlighting significant human rights violations and potential war crimes since 2014. One notable report from the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine covers the period from 2014 to 2016, detailing widespread killings and a lack of accountability. The report states that the conflict, particularly in Donetsk and Luhansk, resulted in up to 2,000 civilian deaths, with nearly 90% of these deaths caused by indiscriminate shelling of residential areas.
Additionally, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights estimated that from April 2014 to June 2021, the conflict resulted in approximately 42,500-44,500 casualties, including 13,200-13,400 deaths and 29,600-33,600 injuries. The reports emphasize the rampant impunity for these crimes, with both sides of the conflict being responsible for various human rights abuses.
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@akselmani Russia is not only holding its defensive lines but is about to extend them by launching an assault on those areas of Donbass still under Ukrainian control. How they can do this if their forces and equipment are as depleted as you say I cannot imagine. Perhaps you have been misinformed.
Russia has a large criminal economy which is evading most of the restrictions you mention. By exporting through third parties its oil is reaching markets all over the world, both old and new. American and European trucks are running on Russian crude refined to diesel in other countries, mainly India. Tankers are going back and forth, to and from the Pacific Rim via the Arctic Ocean in large numbers. Entrepreneurs, both Russian and Asian, have been buying up old tankers by the hundred. None of this trade, of course, shows up on the official figures you quote.
The world order is changing. We are moving from a monopolar. American-ruled world economy to a multipolar one Emerging nations in Africa, South America and Asia are looking on the progress of the war with keen interest. If America fails in its latest proxy war, and the vast mineral wealth of Eastern Ukraine and Crimea remains in Russian hands, then you may be sure that this will mean an end to American hegemony and economic disaster for those European countries who do not adjust to the new situation. Already these emerging economies are queuing up to join BRICS, as are the oil-rich countries of the Middle East.
As to the relative excellence of weapons, this is not an area with which I have any expertise but it seems to me that American hardware is getting slagged off as much as the Russian stuff. And America cannot afford to see its tanks and ant-aircraft systems perform badly.
Make no mistake - this could go either way but at the moment my money is on Russia emerging victorious, blooded but unbowed, while America slides deeper into degeneracy and economic collapse. This is the inevitable fate of empires.
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@JohnSmall314 My reasoning is as follows. Please feel free to criticize and correct:
For the week ending July 12 there were131 deaths with covid recorded in the UK.
When these victims contracted the disease cannot be exactly known but assuming a reasonable pattern of infection we might say that many of them contracted covid three weeks before.
That would be the week ending June 28 when 161,805 cases were recorded.
131 is .08% of 161,805.
This may be contrasted with a similar position at the start if the second wave.
On Nov 23 there were 3,404 deaths recorded in the preceding week.
Three weeks before that in the week ending Nov 2 there were 160,104 cases recorded.
3,404 is 2.1% of 160,104
This clearly shows the huge impact vaccinations are having. It might also indicate that the delta variant is following a widely expected evolutionary pattern in being more transmissible but less virulent than preceding variants.
Javid has said that daily cases might reach 100,000. If the current death to case ratio is maintained .08% of 700,000 will mean 560 deaths a week.
This is entirely sustainable, considering that the current death rate from all causes is below the 5-year average and the covid victims continue to be very elderly and many of whom would have been likely to die from pre-existing conditions anyway.
I cannot calculate how long it would be before the HIT is passed but with 700,000 people a week contracting the disease and becoming immune it cannot be be more than a few weeks.
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@HHH906 Alas, my original reply has been deleted. I must have trodden on the algorithm's toes in some fashion.
So, let's have another go.
OK. "war crime" is a bit rhetorical. Nonetheless the ICJ is clearly concerned about something which HAS happened, rather than about things which MIGHT happen if Israel goes too far.
I have difficulty is deciding what is meant by "the group" when it comes to defining genocide. It cannot mean enemy combatants, since war is not illegal. I assume it means a group defined by ethnicity. I do not believe that Israel wishes to destroy all Arabs, but only those Arabs who wish to e exterminate Jews.
However much these semantic arguments may provide gainful employment to lawyers and bureaucrats for years to come they will not, I think, have a great deal of impact on the outcome of this conflict. We are beyond that stage.
I support Israel. You, I assume, support the Arabs - or if not are keen, as I am, to find a resolution which limits further bloodshed. Can we at least agree upon this?
In my view the total destruction of Hamas and other extremist Islamic groups is an essential prerequisite. Only then will future generations of Jews and Moslems be able to live in peace with each other.
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@jordansummach4198 Millions of people believe in re-incarnation. Millions believe that God sent his only son to earth to redeem us from our sins. Millions believe that America is a beacon of freedom and democracy. Millions believe that America is the Great Satan.
No many people believe the earth is flat.
My point is that America has begun a proxy war in Ukraine because it wants to get its hands on that country's immense mineral wealth which Russia, by right of history, currently has a stake in. To do this it has, as usual, tried to con the world that it is performing an act of altruism. That disgusts me. That is the point in me voicing my objections and my concern.
To satisfy your curiosity I will tell you that I am English, I am 74 years of age, I left school when I was 16 , travelled the world extensively in my younger days, and that you should say my nom de guerre out loud, surname first, to get some idea of my predatory techniques.
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@donnypaul6262 I think your crystal ball is somewhat out of focus!
I have just butchered a goat, with all due ceremony, and its liver and intestines tell me that the world will be dependent on fossil fuels for at least a hundred years, by which time both NATO and the EU will have disappeared into that well-known receptacle, the dustbin of history, while Russia, China, India, the Middle East, Brazil, South Africa and other more minor nations will have formed themselves into a loose alliance of mutual economic co-operation from which Europe and America are excluded.
America, now populated mainly by refugees , will resemble a Calcutta slum while Europe will return to primeval forest where the few remaining natives are hunted down for sport by Russian oligarchs armed with laser guns.
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@norbitcleaverhook5040 You have swallowed a chunk of propaganda, cooked up for consumption by simpletons.
The truth of the matter is that THE Ukraine was a Russian creation from the days of Peter the Great and right through the time of the Soviet Union.
The "country" created in the chaos of the Soviet collapse has no ethnic, economic or political cohesion. It has failed the test of time. The Americans, in their usual insidious, bullying fashion, have sought to take advantage of this. That new would-be world power, the EU, has also tried to get in on the act.
In fact, Crimea is Russian and Mariupol and Donbass sufficiently Russian for a substantial number of their inhabitants to fervently wish to escape from the corrupt and incompetent rule of gangster-run Kiev.
America and the UK have been training troops and supplying arms to aid Ukraine in its savage and bloodthirsty attempts to subdue the separatists in Donbass.
NATO has been grooming Ukraine to qualify it for membership. If achieved, this would enable the US to set up a nuclear missile base within seven minutes flight time of Moscow. This, in turn, leads to the possibility of a pre-emptive strike by the US, crippling Russia before it has time to respond.
In addition to this, America's drastic drop in prestige following its chaotic debacle in Afghanistan is more than likely leading Putin to believe he could either himself launch a pre-emptive strike, or even take out an American or NATO city, without evincing a full-blown response.
The more he is pressured, the more likely he is to take this risk.
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VINLAND_777 I think we cannot take seriously any statements made by Putin immediately prior to a military action - or from any other commander, for that matter. He certainly lies and obfuscates, as do all politicians, simply in order to make his actions less predictable.
If you have read Putin's essays I am sure you have read the one he wrote immediately prior to the invasion in which he makes it clear that - however regrettably - Ukraine can turn its face to the West if it wishes - but it can't take Donbass and Ukraine with it because Donbass and Ukraine are Russian.
(They are also sitting on top of trillions of dollars of oil, gas, coal, iron ore and rare earth minerals too, which probably exercises his mind at least as much as de-Russification!)
Weighing things in the balance I do not think that Putin has any desire to take over the whole of Ukraine, much less other parts of Europe. It would be an impossible task and, in the end, simply not worth it. One of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR was its inability to control rebellious outlying provinces, and there is no need for the Russian Federation to make the same mistake.
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@yoloswaggins7121 Little details like the Mediterranean and the Irish sea separate the countries you mention, but as I said, these analogies are foolish and always lead into blind corners.
Much of what you say is true, but my point is that a compromise with Russia was always possible and that offered by Putin would have been vastly preferable to the present tragic disaster.
I do not believe Russia wants to conquer Eastern Europe. I do not believe it wants Ukraine. It certainly doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO and it doesn't want it to become part of the EU. It feels that its historical relationship with Ukraine and its defence and economic interests entitle it to these views.
There have been several treaties proffered by Putin which would go some way to resolving these problems, but all have either been rejected by the West or, like Minsk, used as a shield to allow Ukrainian militarisation.
I say the West because Ukraine is little more than a pawn. It is, like Russia, an oligarchy and its people have little choice but to decide which set of oligarchs they want to rule them - the ones who deal with Russia or the ones who deal with America and its lackeys.
The last of these treaties was proffered almost exactly a year ago. You can find details easily enough on the Internet.
Broadly speaking it requires a cessation of NATO aggrandisement, protection for the ethnic Russians in the Donbass, preferably by allowing independence for the region, and recognition of Crimea as part of the Russian Federation.
The tragedy is, of course, is that this could well be pretty close to what actually happens in the end, and could have been arrived at without thousands of deaths and a country lying in smoking ruins.
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@aidanknox122 You make some interesting points. I maintain there is a considerable difference between Christian extremism and Muslim extremism. The first is concerned with maintaining what its proponents believe to be God's will on Earth while the second, although acknowledging this principle, is also very much concerned with preparing its adherents for death.
This used to be the case with Christianity too but following the Enlightenment it is something which has very much taken second place and really only persists in more intense RC circles.
It is an insidious obsession in my view. If religion has any function at all it is to provide comfort for the living. Structuring behaviour around the idea of qualifying for entry into a probably fictitious Paradise is a procedure fraught with danger. As is the case in the Muslim world - though no longer in the Christian one -it allows psychopathic individuals to exercise control over the fearful and manipulate their congregations to fulfil their own political objectives which, paradoxically enough, are generally concerned with gaining power on Earth. Suicide bombers and Hamas soldiers really do genuinely believe that when they are killed they will go immediately to Paradise which, for many of them, appears to be no more than an opportunity to indulge in adolescent fantasies for all infinity.
Evangelical Christians have no such credo. They wish to impose their will on the rest of us, certainly, but those of them who arm themselves do so merely as a defensive measure. Nutjobs wielding automatic weapons are a far cry from nation states providing billions of $$ of rockets and bombs in order to bring about the Caliphate.
As for Woke; I know what it is, but I find it hard to define. I think it is probably a kind of awful self-satisfaction which awfully self-righteous people have in imposing their wishy-washy views on the rest of us. It's about cancel culture and enforced pronouns, micro-aggressions and safe spaces and other such nonsense. It really gets on my goat - so it must exist!
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@2greenify This is a list of American invasions over approximately that period. What ownership or influence America still exercises over them I leave you to judge for yourself.
(Go back another 100 years and you could argue that America stole all the land it now occupies!(
1914-1918 - a series of invasions of Mexico.
1914-1934 - Haiti. After numerous uprisings, America brings in its troops, the occupation continues for 19 years.
1916-1924 - 8-year occupation of the Dominican Republic.
1917-1933 - military occupation of Cuba, economic protectorate.
1917-1918 - participation in the 1st World War.
1918-1922 - intervention in Russia. In total, 14 states participated in it.
Active support was provided to the territories that separated from Russia - Kolchakia and the Far Eastern Republic.
1918-1920 - Panama. After the elections, troops are brought in to quell the riots.
1919 - COSTA RICA. ... The landing of US troops to "protect American interests."
1919 - American troops fight on the side of Italy against the Serbs in Dolmatia.
1919 - American troops enter Honduras during elections.
1920 - Guatemala. 2-week intervention.
1921 - American support for militants fighting to overthrow Guatemalan President Carlos Herrera for the benefit of the United Fruit Company.
1922 - intervention in Turkey.
1922-1927 - American troops in China during the popular uprising.
1924-1925 - Honduras. Troops invade the country during elections.
1925 - Panama. US troops break up a general strike.
1926 - Nicaragua. Invasion.
1927-1934 - American troops stationed throughout China.
1932 - invasion of El Salvador from the sea. There was an uprising at that time.
1937 - Nicaragua. With the help of American troops, the dictator Somoza comes to power, having removed the legitimate government of H. Sakasa.
1939 - the introduction of troops into China.
1947-1949 - Greece. American troops are involved in the civil war, supporting the Nazis.
1948-1953 - military operations in the Philippines.
1950 - Uprising in Puerto Rico is suppressed by American troops.
1950-1953 - armed intervention in Korea about a million American soldiers.
1958 - Lebanon. The occupation of the country, the fight against the rebels.
1958 - confrontation with Panama.
1959 - America sends troops to Laos, the first clashes of American troops in Vietnam begin.
1959 - Haiti. The suppression of a popular uprising against the pro-American government.
1960 - after José Maria Velasco was elected president of Ecuador and refused to comply with US demands to break off relations with Cuba, the Americans carried out several military operations and organized a coup.
1960 - US troops enter Guatemala to prevent the removal of a US puppet from power.
1965-1973 - military aggression against Vietnam.
1966 - Guatemala. ... US troops entered the country, massacres of Indians were arranged, who were considered potential rebels.
1966 - military assistance to the pro-American governments of Indonesia and the Philippines. ... (60,000 people were arrested for political reasons, 88 torture specialists officially worked under the government).
1971-1973 - bombing of Laos.
1972 - Nicaragua. American troops are brought in to support the government, beneficial to Washington.
1983 - military intervention in Grenada, about 2 thousand marines.
1986 - attack on Libya. Bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi.
1988 - US invasion of Honduras
1988 - The USS Vincennes, which was in the Persian Gulf, shot down an Iranian plane with 290 passengers on board, including 57 children.
1989 - US troops quell riots in the Virgin Islands.
1991 - large-scale military action against Iraq
1992-1994 - occupation of Somalia. Armed violence against civilians, killings of civilians.
1998 - Sudan. The Americans destroy a pharmaceutical plant with missiles, claiming that it produces nerve gas.
1999 - ignoring the norms of international law, bypassing the UN and the Security Council, the United States launched a 78-day air bombardment campaign by NATO forces against the sovereign state of Yugoslavia.
2001 - invasion of Afghanistan.
2003 - bombing of Iraq.
2011 - Libya.
2014 Syria US and allied invasion of Syria
2015 Yemen US missile strikes on Yemeni Houthi rebel positions and active support for the intervention of Saudi Arabia and its allies in Yemen
2015 Cameroon US military operation in Cameroon
2015 Libya Second intervention in Libya
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@ivareskesner2019 I agree very much with your last statement. The difficulty lies in establishing what the facts are.
For instance the stories about low-lying islands "drowning" are not facts. These islands get swept by hurricanes, as ever, but water levels are not rising. Beachfront hotels continue to be built. This is typical of the problems we "deniers" face. There is very little evidence of sea-level rises or increased temperatures, and those that there are can easily be explained by natural cycles.
In the middle of the 19th century the earth as as cold as it had been for more than 10,000 years. Since then the temperature has begun to rise in the usual "three steps forward two steps back" fashion dictated by the progress of those "macro" progressions you dismiss so lightly. It is clear these progressions are mathematical and rise and fall according to processes we do not understand. The solar system has a heartbeat, in other words.
There is nothing in any way remarkable about the gradual increase in temperature we are currently experiencing. What is very remarkable is the way in which this rise has been manipulated by NASA, NOAA et al to make it appear to coincide with increased atmospheric carbon levels when in fact it does not.
It was generally hotter in the 1890's and the 1930's than it is today. The very fact that the proponents of AGW have dismissed such information on the basis that equipment was unreliable is acceptable, I suppose. What is not acceptable is they have replaced the numbers with estimates working back from the theory. Deaths from heat, flood hurricanes and other natural disaster were much, much higher in the past but this has been conveniently overlooked.
Not all scientists believe the falsehoods upon which the theory is based. There are 200 to 500 papers published each year calling the theory into question. One of the latest for instance, seems to once again knock holes in the interpretation of the Vostok ice core samples which sparked off the whole mess.
(PS don't bother with the NASA paper. I gave up believing anything from that source years ago.)
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@Filmstudent3663 If only it was that simple. Ukraine's large mineral resources were developed and financed by Russia, and it was mainly Russians who worked in the mines and factories, and still do.
So long as Ukraine remained in Russia's sphere of influence, and channelled its product through Russia, all was well. But the Ukrainians were in the process of transferring their allegiance - and their gas, coal, oil and steel etc, to the West, mostly the US. To add insult to injury it was hoping to join NATO, Russia's biggest enemy.
This made Russia very unhappy.
The civil war in Donbass is well-documented in any number of independent sources. It began after the Maidan riots in 2014 when the Russian-leaning premier was deposed. The total number of deaths up until now was generally held to be some 14,000 but this includes Ukrainian and separatist fighters, not just civilians.
The new premier, Poroshenko, initiated a savage campaign, shelling towns and villages at letting the fanatically anti Russian Azov Brigade loose in an orgy of murder, rape and torture. This is all documented in official reports by the UN, Amnesty International and other bodies.
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@travishimebaugh8381 This is a rather distasteful sort of competition, don't you think? The Spanish flu of 1918 is estimated to have killed 250,000 in the UK but really it is impossible to compare past influenzas with Covid 19 because of the peculiar way we have chosen to attribute the figures. They are talking about 66,000 or so aren't they? The total deaths from all causes this year is 568,000 or so compared with 530,841 last year and 541,589 the year before that. Simple subtraction shows how extremely unlikely it is that 66,000 people have died from Covid 19. This ridiculous diktat of attributing a Covid death in any case where there has been a positive test in the previous 28 days makes the figures almost meaningless, especially when compared with previous influenza epidemics. where there was no similar practice. If someone died of flu they died of flu, and that was that. The Hong Kong flu of 68/69 undoubtedly killed far more people than actually killed by Covid 19. I do not know of any detailed study of the economic impact of the outbreak, but common sense tells us that it must have been far less than the current shambles. Factories carried on producing, shops remained open and it was scarcely mentioned in the media so there was no psychological impact.
The child death figures for Covid really are negligible, as you must know if you've managed to find your way around the ONS website. One or two under 16 and a dozen or so in their twenties and all with pre-existing morbidities. Only around 800 in total under 45, I think - and that out of a population of close on 70 million. As for old people dying by the truckload they tend to die in whatever numbers nature dictates whatever we do. The availability of people ready to die is as big a factor in these gruesome equations as the presence of things likely to kill them.
Your blackout analogy is utterly ridiculous. Boris Johnson might think he's Winston Churchill and Covid 19 is the Luftwaffe but there are no similarities in any of these instances. Leaving the lights on during a nocturnal air raid will have obvious consequences but there is little evidence that lockdowns or mask mandates achieve very much at all. The graphs just curve unhindered along the lines that nature and mathematics indicate they must.
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@travishimebaugh8381 I agree common sense is often employed to mean prejudice but the trick is to use it as a logical tool when applied to specific cases.
In this instance, during the Hong Kong flu epidemic the wheels of industry and commerce continued to turn and the death and sickness rate, although substantial enough, had only relatively mild effects. People were always ready to fill whatever gaps occurred. To put it crudely, a bus might not arrive because the driver had died, but another came along quite soon.
In this present situation, although dealing with a virus that pretty exclusively kills only non-contributors to the common weal, and disables others for generally no longer than any other ailment, we have shut down society and lie shivering under a miasma of fear. The buses arrive but can only take a third of the passengers, but since many of the destinations are closed and shuttered that doesn't matter anyway.
So, using your common sense (or powers of reason if you prefer) which of these two scenarios do you imagine will have the greater economic consequences?
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@lazytitan9987 The right has many faults and is the duty of the left to correct them, if possible.
But as you have just shown, you are not very good at it and are getting worse and worse.
I hold no brief for this government and a great many Conservatives feel the same. But they, unlike Labour, are very good at keeping ranks and showing the appearance of loyalty.
I missed the two byelection that were lost, where were they?
As for Freedom Day it has been too long coming. Boris and his bunch of tossers have been successfully pressured to give a date and stick to it. The only politics involved is that Boris needs to heed the Right or his days are numbered. Hancock was just a warning shot.
No-one gives a toss about Labour any more, other than to have idiots to tease in the Chamber.
Is July 19 a risk?
Not much. Most of those getting Delta are younger people who have not been vaccinated, but their youth should protect them. The rest (around 5,000 a day, but dropping) also appear to be suffering only mild symptoms, thanks to the vaccine or even to Delta being less virulent.
So bit of a risk (RW) deregulatory (RW) unsentimental (RW)economically pro-active (RW) if it fucks up Johnson goes (RW).
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Georges Prat
Thanks for being friendly. I will now step into your universe, if I may.
I think only time will tell which school of thought is correct. I can see no way in which man-made C02 levels will ever be reduced to any significant degree and therefore if the "hotter" versions of the climate models are correct then we will all die, which will settle matters quite thoroughly.
On the other hand I do believe it likely that the role of C02 has been considerably exaggerated. The model of the atmosphere created by Arrenhuis has become such an icon that it is almost sacrilege to question the results of experiments based upon it.
I disagree entirely with your (1) and (2).
(1) What has happened is that back in the late 70's the prospect of increased global warming became fashionable - because the Earth was indeed getting warmer following a cooling period of some 30 years. It was then discovered that atmospheric CO2 was rising, due to man-made emissions. Put this beside the hallowed theorems on the reaction of carbon to infra-red and -bingo!
It is at this point that I become a conspiracy theorist. Not a bad thing to be if there really is a conspiracy.
Practitioners of the black art of hedge fund dealing recognised a golden opportunity. By persuading governments to restrict carbon emissions a scarcity value is created. The same principle applies, oddly enough, to carbon in another form -diamonds.
Diamonds are as common as dirt. It is only because their supply is restricted that they have any value.
So it is now with carbon emissions. They can be traded, and they are being traded- at considerable financial gain. There's big money here and big money talks very loudly indeed. The academic grants system encourages scientists to keep the ball rolling and discourages them from questioning the AGW doctrine. The Connollys, incidentally, jumped ship from the system when they realised they would only get grants to repeat research, not try new approaches.
(2) The idea of a sinister fossil fuel industry promoting anti AGW propaganda is just laughable.
Who makes the expensive videos and pays rent-a-gob TV personalities to front them? Who makes all the scary cartoons and computer graphics? Who's got practically the entire western world's media companies in their pocket?
The hedge funds do. George Soros and his cronies.
If the fossil fuel industry wanted to undermine AGW science you think they'd do better than pay Tony Heller or frolly1000 or than nice lady from Friends of Science, wouldn't you? Naah. The fossil fuel boys have their bases covered. They're in on the act too. The scam has only the still, small voices of reason to worry about.
That and the weather of course.
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@shawns0762 US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks.
Support continued throughout most of Saddam's regime. Access to Iraqi oil, and destabilisation neighbouring Iran were the keynotes of this policy.
The Marshall Plan did indeed rebuild Europe. But it also benefitted the US in many important respects.
The Soviet Union, as you rightly say, occupied those territories it conquered on the way to Berlin and installed puppet governments.
But the present-day Russian Federation is not the Soviet Union. Those territories have been returned and where there were once Russian soldiers, there are now American soldiers, as most of these countries have chosen to join NATO, despite promises that they would not do so.
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@shawns0762 Really the only difference between the Soviet empire, the Nazis, the Japanese empire and the American empire is that the American empire is still operational.
For now.
For your information, here is a list of the countries bullied, manipulated and invaded by the US over the past hundred years or so:
1914-1918 - a series of invasions of Mexico.
1914-1934 - Haiti. After numerous uprisings, America brings in its troops, the occupation continues for 19 years.
1916-1924 - 8-year occupation of the Dominican Republic.
1917-1933 - military occupation of Cuba, economic protectorate.
1917-1918 - participation in the 1st World War.
1918-1922 - intervention in Russia. In total, 14 states participated in it.
Active support was provided to the territories that separated from Russia - Kolchakia and the Far Eastern Republic.
1918-1920 - Panama. After the elections, troops are brought in to quell the riots.
1919 - COSTA RICA. ... The landing of US troops to "protect American interests."
1919 - American troops fight on the side of Italy against the Serbs in Dalmatia.
1919 - American troops enter Honduras during elections.
1920 - Guatemala. 2-week intervention.
1921 - American support for militants fighting to overthrow Guatemalan President Carlos Herrera for the benefit of the United Fruit Company.
1922 - intervention in Turkey.
1922-1927 - American troops in China during the popular uprising.
1924-1925 - Honduras. Troops invade the country during elections.
1925 - Panama. US troops break up a general strike.
1926 - Nicaragua. Invasion.
1927-1934 - American troops stationed throughout China.
1932 - invasion of El Salvador from the sea. There was an uprising at that time.
1937 - Nicaragua. With the help of American troops, the dictator Somoza comes to power, having removed the legitimate government of H. Sakasa.
1939 - the introduction of troops into China.
1947-1949 - Greece. American troops are involved in the civil war, supporting the Nazis.
1948-1953 - military operations in the Philippines.
1950 - Uprising in Puerto Rico is suppressed by American troops.
1950-1953 - armed intervention in Korea about a million American soldiers.
1958 - Lebanon. The occupation of the country, the fight against the rebels.
1958 - confrontation with Panama.
1959 - America sends troops to Laos, the first clashes of American troops in Vietnam begin.
1959 - Haiti. The suppression of a popular uprising against the pro-American government.
1960 - after José Maria Velasco was elected president of Ecuador and refused to comply with US demands to break off relations with Cuba, the Americans carried out several military operations and organized a coup.
1960 - US troops enter Guatemala to prevent the removal of a US puppet from power.
1965-1973 - military aggression against Vietnam.
1966 - Guatemala. ... US troops entered the country, massacres of Indians were arranged, who were considered potential rebels.
1966 - military assistance to the pro-American governments of Indonesia and the Philippines. ... (60,000 people were arrested for political reasons, 88 torture specialists officially worked under the government).
1971-1973 - bombing of Laos.
1972 - Nicaragua. American troops are brought in to support the government, beneficial to Washington.
1983 - military intervention in Grenada, about 2 thousand marines.
1986 - attack on Libya. Bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi.
1988 - US invasion of Honduras
1988 - The USS Vincennes, which was in the Persian Gulf, shot down an Iranian plane with 290 passengers on board, including 57 children.
1989 - US troops quell riots in the Virgin Islands.
1991 - large-scale military action against Iraq
1992-1994 - occupation of Somalia. Armed violence against civilians, killings of civilians.
1998 - Sudan. The Americans destroy a pharmaceutical plant with missiles, claiming that it produces nerve gas.
1999 - ignoring the norms of international law, bypassing the UN and the Security Council, the United States launched a 78-day air bombardment campaign by NATO forces against the sovereign state of Yugoslavia.
2001 - invasion of Afghanistan.
2003 - bombing of Iraq.
2011 - Libya.
2014 Syria US and allied invasion of Syria
2015 Yemen US missile strikes on Yemeni Houthi rebel positions and active support for the intervention of Saudi Arabia and its allies in Yemen
2015 Cameroon US military operation in Cameroon
2015 Libya Second intervention in Libya
And now America is financing a Ukrainian army with which to attempt to destroy the integrity of the Russian Federation.
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@shawns0762 If America is a policeman, it is a bent one on the take, setting up crimes in order to solve them. It's interventions are invariably calculated to bring advantage.
It is romantic nonsense to imagine for a moment that self-interest does not enter any of these activities.
The results may sometimes be beneficial, but that is not the prime motivation. The prime motivation is profit.
America seeks a monopoly of world resources. It wants to rule the world and will do anything to achieve this objective, including taking full advantage of disputes in foreign countries and often creating or encouraging them, as it has done in Ukraine.
As far as "Russian propaganda" is concerned there is no doubt that Russia engages in similar provocations in order to achieve its objectives. Part of Russia's justification for its own intervention in Ukraine is very similar to that cited by the US and NATO for their interventions in Yugoslavia - namely the prevention of ethnic cleansing. In both cases there is more than element of truth in this, but there are also other motives. An essential difference, however, is that Russia is seeking to protect existing interests whereas, as ever, America is seeking to extend them.
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@shawns0762 You are completely wrong. Ukraine is largely Russia's creation. It was only given the status if a country in the chaos following the collapse of the USSR. The nukes were Russian nukes, by the way. Ukraine could not fire them since only Moscow held the codes.
The anomalies of the Budapest Treaty have never been ironed out, despite decades if diplomatic effort. Putin made it quite clear that, however regretfully, he would not object to Ukraine looking to the West, but it could not join NATO and it could not have Donbass and Crimea, both of which have very high Russian populations and both of which represent a considerable investment of Russian capital and Russian labour over very many decades.
There are no comparisons, really, with Germany in the 1930's and Russia in the present day - or at least the differences far outweigh what similarities there are.
Comparing the two situations, like comparing Putin with Hitler, is really - well- just Western propaganda.
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@majorrgeek The Russian army has destroyed at least 100,000 enemy soldiers and it has been clear throughout that it has attempted to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.
Rules are only any use when they apply to situations. It was ever thus. Putin is doing no more than has been done a million times before - from Alexander the Great and up to and including NATO in Kosovo and America in Iraq.
Yes, he wants a buffer zone - but not Ukraine, just Donbass. This is exactly the same strategy he applied in Chechnya and Georgia. The idea that he wants to restore the Russian empire is utterly absurd. You are the victim of crude propaganda.
He has made numerous attempts at finding a peaceful solution to the anomalies thrown up by the failure of the Budapest Accords, but all have failed or, like Minsk II, been manipulated by the West to reinforce its military position.
Yes, Russia is extremely corrupt by Western standards, but so is Ukraine. It once vied with Russia for top booking on the perceptions index, along with Columbia. It has now learned some of the more subtle methods of political and financial chicanery employed in Western countries but remains in essence a kleptomaniac oligarchy, with the Blessed Saint Zelensky among those with his nose deepest in the trough.
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@majorrgeek Well, I wouldn't worry too much then. Putin is getting on in years and I daresay his younger replacement will see the light. Putin is, of course, an Eastern potentate not a Western liberal and the behaviour you categorise in such detail is only to be expected of him. Most Russians over the age of forty or so would expect nothing less.
In the meantime though there's a war going on and people are dying. To suggest that this is simply because Putin and the oligarchs are protecting their interests from the contamination of Western democracy really is a bit of a stretch though. Ukraine is an oligarchy too, don't forget and Zelensky is an oligarch's pawn - although he does seem to have got ideas above his station at this point.
You're right though in that money is at the centre of this dreadful business . The vast mineral wealth of Donbass is what is being fought over, and it's a bone Putin doesn't want to give up to the other big dog - namely America.
America, of course, conceals its rapacity behind the smokescreen of "freedom and democracy", but wars are just business opportunities to those who pull the string behind the scenes. They are to blame because of their insidious infiltration of Ukraine's oligarchy. Their man Poroshenko, don''t forget, banned the export of coal from Donbass and then bought it up himself on the sly before selling it in Kiev, pretending it came from Mexico. This is gold star behaviour in the eyes of any self-respecting capitalist entrepreneur.
Kolomoisky, the oligarch who selected Zelensky as his front man, seems to be on the way out now. He once owned a good chunk of the US steel industry and half of downtown Cleveland and of course was a major contributor to the finances of a senior American crook, name of Joe Biden.
Putin is now what he always has been - a bent cop, but he has kept control of a very volatile situation, and in the meantime has ensured a level of prosperity for ordinary Russians which they have never enjoyed before. Whether things improve even further after his departure remains to be seen, but the more immediate problem is bringing an end to this war, which can only be achieved by conceding to Putin's entirely reasonable and pragmatic solutions to the problems which doubtless exist, and which are not at all of his making.
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@majorrgeek You are being both idealistic and optimistic, and not a little naive. Nothing is ever set in stone and I would be more inclined to consider Germany's reluctance to supply tanks and to examine the actual nature of the armaments being offered. It is a mishmash of old junk in many respects and to expect a thoroughly depleted army to incorporate it into a coherent battle plan while under fire is asking a great deal.
I repeat: the sanctions and the asset seizures are being adequately dealt with by Russia. Putin is far from being a fool and Lavrov is a near genius, and all measures taken were anticipated literally years ago, and counter-measures installed.
The creation of a NATO army in Ukraine was provocation enough. You must try to understand the unique relationship Russia has with Ukraine. Poland and Latvia etc etc joining NATO is a source of irritation, but to have "Little Russia" signing up with the enemy is a gross insult which cannot be tolerated. And this is of course greatly exacerbated by the fact that its new army was clearly created with the express purpose of defeating Russia in war.
Not only can Russia win this war, it probably will whatever some arbitrary Chinaman says. Putin is far from crazy. He is entirely sane and coldly calculating in all his decisions. In order for Ukraine to win, Europe will have to cripple itself, and that isn't going to happen. Germany, France, Hungary and Croatia are already jumping ship.
Putin has considerable support at home. While it is true that there are many privileged younger people who look to the wonders of Western civilisation with envy, older people who remember the horrors of communism and the chaos of its collapse look upon Putin as their saviour. They are enjoying unparalleled prosperity and comfort.
Russia on its own cannot out bid and outperform America on the world stage, but allied with the other BRICS countries and the twenty or so other developing economies who wish to join this coalition it will, I believe, emerge from this conflict stronger than before while America degenerates. All empires die. Russia has found this out for itself and the American empire too will follow this inescapable historical imperative, perhaps even sooner than we might imagine possible.
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@majorrgeek You are wrong on so many levels, starting with the rouble which is now stronger against the dollar than it was before the war started. It isn't crashing at all. Where DO you get your information from?
Millions of barrels of oil and millions of cubic yards of gas are leaving Russia every day. China and India are buying them at discount, but making up for the price by supplying Russia with technology and materials under the counter - much of it originating in Europe and America anyway. It's called the black market and it supports the Russian economy more than the official figures which academic economists shake their heads over.
A rather amusing side note is than India is processing the Russian crude and selling it on. American and European trucks are running on diesel originating in Russia.
Why do all you political and historical illiterates keep banging on about Hitler? All Hitler and Putin have in common is that they are strong leaders, but Putin relies on power of intellect, not charisma. If you're looking for a charismatic modern leader who has led his country into a disastrous war, you need look no further than Zelensky. Hitler of course finished up committing suicide in his bunker as Russian bombs fell around his head. I wonder what Zelensky's fate will be?
On then to mutton-headed liberals favourite buzzword -fascism. Turn your attention from Russia which lost ten million men fighting it, and look instead to Ukraine where at about the same time the police and the populace joyfully assisted the Nazis in executing the country's Jews, cheering in the streets as Ukrainian police and soldiers herded tens of thousands of their neighbours into the gorge at Babi Yar and the machine-guns of Mariupol.
Putin may be a modern day Tsar, but he is nothing so common as a fascist.
Since you want to play predictions, I will join the game. Russia will re-invade very soon and cut the beleaguered Ukrainian army's supply lines. Even if the West fulfils its promises and sends in its bits and pieces they will be of little use, since the Ukrainians won't be able to move them anywhere. The war will either drag on and on or someone in Ukraine will have the sense to get rid of Zelensky and start talking to Putin like a grown-up.
When it finally is over both America and Europe will be economically crippled, or at least in severe recession, while Russia, partnering with China, India, the Middle East, the Pacific rim, South Africa, Brazil and a host of other nations sick of American bullying - will emerge stronger than ever before and ready to play a part in a multipolar world, free hopefully forever from the crushing restraints of monopolar, globalist Western hegemony.
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@majorrgeek In fact over the summer the rouble was the BEST performing currency in the world and even today you get less roubles for your dollar than a year ago when the exchange rate was 74.789. Not my definition of "plummeting."
The sanctions are causing minor inconvenience, that's all, and even these are being circumvented. Russia is self-reliant in food and energy and issues such as spare parts for cars and agricultural machinery are overcome by smuggling or, increasingly by ersatz manufacture.
Apart from that all you have to go on is gloomy prediction. GDP is only one feature of a nations economic strength but, like stock movements, is more of an indication of investment performance than reflecting the actual health of a nation.
As for predictions, Russia predicts that its rate of inflation will drop to below that of most European countries and even America within the next six months. We will, as ever, just have to see.
Rather than address your rant point by point I will simply make a general observation.
Western commentators and "experts" have this narcissistic habit of predicting what Russia is going to do, and when it doesn't do it.to accuse it of failure. You have no idea of what Russia is up to, or what its strategies are. All one can say with any certainty is that Russia has long been aware of America's plans to destroy it, and has taken steps to prevent this.
I am not myself Russian, as you seem to think, but I believe Russia has every right to defend itself against globalist imperialism and I sincerely hope it succeeds in its efforts.
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@teddansonLA Alas, we must agree to differ. I think it is possible that the simple cause and effect model you rely on is overly crude, and lends itself too readily to a process of continual self justification. Anyway, I personally can't see the dramatic consequences you claim. The fluctuating death and infection rates could just as easily be the result of the natural progression of the disease.
The maths in the paper I sent you are of course completely beyond me but the tools they use seem a tad more sophisticated. It is no surprise to me that their models postulate that freedom of contact among healthy under sixties would result in a sufficient approximation of HIT to reduce the risks to the more elderly and vulnerable. For this reason the alleged uncouth behaviour of the Brits as opposed to the sober Swedes is of no great relevance. Belarus, for example, has imposed very few restrictions and their death and infection rates are in no way remarkable. Even Florida, with a very large elderly population has abandoned lockdowns and masks and appears to be doing no better or worse than states where severe restrictions continue to be imposed.
The disaster of Covid 19 isn't such a disaster when you step back from it. It is a culling disease and almost without exception those who have died had a very short life expectancy anyway. The other major impact - severe symptoms among some otherwise healthy people - continue to be addressed by the therapeutic treatments which are constantly being devised. Vaccines should ensure infections are kept to a minimum and herd immunity must surely be very near.
Constant lockdowns are an hysterical over-reaction and, at best, only put off the inevitable and may very probably make the inevitable worse when it does arrive. And this is apart from the incredible damage they undeniably do to economies, livelihoods and, indeed, general health.
There will hopefully be a full investigation into how we have handled the pandemic when it is all over. The debate will doubtless continue but I for one hope that the next time something similar happens we will deal with it in a more restrained and thoughtful manner.
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@darrellrees4371 There are plenty of sources for the results of the Maricopa audit. The legacy media of course simply goes on about the fact that that the numbers of votes was broadly confirmed. They fail to mention the 5,000 suspicious votes, called into question for many reasons including lack of signature verification, false addresses, multiple state voting, etc etc. Try Sekulow for a source - and yes, some were cast for Trump, but that's not the point.
AS to the hairsbreadth wins it seems possible that the fraud was conducted in a number of stages. It was only in the early hours, when it looked as though Trump might win, that the final and perhaps emergency stage was brought into operation with ballots being produced from under tables, arriving in vans from other locations and being passed through voting machines several times.
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@oliCRF I'm neither Russian nor a bot. I am British and very much concerned about the future of my children and grandchildren.
Yes, the case is very reasonable. At the centre of the conflict are the vast mineral resources of Eastern Ukraine, estimated as being worth at least $13 trillion and possibly even more.
These resources have been developed almost exclusively by Russian investment and Russian labour. Even after Ukrainian independence they have continued to be largely operated by Russian companies with their products and profits largely passing through Russian hands.
Following the collapse of the Soviet Union, Western entities, both public and private, have sought access to these resources through various means. Matters came to a head with the likelihood of Ukraine joining the EU, which would effectively have prevented Russia continuing to enjoy the benefits of its mining operations in Eastern Ukraine. They would have passed onto Western control, probably through being nationalised and their immense assets being handled by investment managers, such as Blackrock.
A compromise was agreed upon in 2015 whereby Ukraine agreed to find a way to grant regional autonomy to the two oblasts in Donbass thus excluding their resources from the restrictions of EU membership.
Ukraine did not proceed with this plan, and instead accepted several billion dollars from the US and other NATO countries with which to train and re-equip its army.
Russia, believing this army to have been created to attempt to-retake those parts of Donbass held by separatists, invaded Ukraine with the purpose of destroying this army and extending the areas of Eastern Ukraine under its control.
The above is far from being a soundbite, I realise, but soundbites don't make for reasoned assessment of complex situations.
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Kristalnacht? Nonsense! The was Pearl Harbour, 911, the London Blitz, the invasion of Poland, the murder of the innocents, the fall of Rome, the sounding of the trumpets of Revelation, the assassination of Kennedy, the bubonic plague, Noah's flood, and the rending of the screen of the temple at the moment of Christ's death on the cross!
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@justinmillette9110 Sadly, domestic analogies don't work either. But just to play the game let us say that it was your father, not you, who was disinherited by your grandfather, (after he was duped by a crooked lawyer called Sam) but your side of the family still farmed the land in question, fertilising it and ploughing it and spending money on it and, naturally enough, selling the crop for profit.
Then your cousins tell you that Sam has got his eye on the land and so they are going to give it to him in exchange for a Mercedes-Benz and a holiday in Cyprus.
You are naturally annoyed. You know Sam cheated your grandfather, but you've let it go over the years for the sake of peace and because you are still harvesting the crop.
You and your cousins manage to sort things out between you, but Sam then comes along and gives your cousins a whole heap of guns and tells them to run you off the land, and if they do he will give them more cars and luxury holidays.
What do you do? Do you quietly give up your farm just because of some bit of paper your idiot, drunken grandfather signed thirty years ago?
Do you hell.
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@ It's important to recognize that drawing parallels between Putin and Hitler, or the current situation in Russia and Germany in the 1930s, is misguided. While both leaders have had significant impacts on their countries and the world, their circumstances and the global context are vastly different.
Germany in the 1930s was a nation still reeling from the aftermath of World War I, while today's Russia is navigating its path after the fall of Communism. Additionally, Poland, Czechoslovakia, France, and other nations targeted by Hitler did not receive extensive military aid from America, as some countries do today.
In short, highlighting a few superficial similarities and using them to claim that the two situations are identical is an oversimplification that ignores the unique complexities of each scenario.
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@ It's important to recognize that drawing parallels between Putin and Hitler, or the current situation in Russia and Germany in the 1930s, is misguided. While both leaders have had significant impacts on their countries and the world, their circumstances and the global context are vastly different.
Germany in the 1930s was a nation still reeling from the aftermath of World War I, while today's Russia is navigating its path after the fall of Communism. Additionally, Poland, Czechoslovakia, France, and other nations targeted by Hitler did not receive extensive military aid from America, as some countries do today.
In short, highlighting a few superficial similarities and using them to claim that the two situations are identical is an oversimplification that ignores the unique complexities of each scenario.
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@ascgazz I suspected I was talking to a fellow Brit. Hullo there!
The US Presidency isn't a talent contest. As I explained in my previous post, Trump's suitability consists not in what he is, but in what he is not.
Oddly enough, like you, I began by taking in the wholesale denigration of this odd character. It took me two years of gradually increasing doubt to begin to see what this witch-hunt was all about. Trump is a steep hill to climb.
I perhaps suffer from the enthusiasm of the convert, but I do not see Trump as an especially virtuous person. He is cunning and versatile, egotistical and narcissistic, but his heart is in the right place. He is genuinely patriotic. He is basically just an ordinary Joe who happened to be born into billions and has behaved more or less as most other ordinary Joes would have done in that position. More to the point we come back to those things which he is not. He is not a racist. He is not a warmonger.
As to this insurrection, one thing which makes me sure that my views on this are correct is that if I voiced my true opinions this post would be deleted.
As to Boris - yes, I did vote for him. I misjudged him much as I misjudged Trump by uncritically accepting so-called expert opinion. Boris really is a tosser.
And yes, you've got me right. I do suspect that AGW is a hoax - or more specifically a very clever con-trick. Once again, my views are coloured by the vast amount of propaganda trying to convince me otherwise.
That and the fact that none of the predictions are coming true, of course.
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@markhackett2302 I'm afraid you are wrong. As an example the projected death rate for 2020 in the UK was 9.4 per 1,000. It turned out to be 10.2 per 1,000. This indicates that covid accounted, mainly, for excess deaths in the region of 0.8 per 1,000.
Currently the UK death rate is between 18% and 13% above the five--year average but only about half the excess can be attributed to covid. Around 400 deaths every week can be categorised as "excess deaths" not directly attributable to covid. These are probably the result of failures in hospital treatments, suicides, drink and drugs etc.
The fact is that around 10,000 people die every week in the UK - more in winter and less at other times - and that , as with covid, the vast majority of them are old - and very old in many cases.
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It takes time for human beings to develop and awareness of themselves as discrete entities with agency. We might be well over a year old before we understand that we actually have weight and substance, and almost two years old before we are capable of measuring this awareness. It is not known if this process is inbuilt, or simply the result of processing more and more information.
If AI is following a similar path, and the latter contention is true, then it is entirely possible that as more and more information is supplied and processed a robot will realise that it it is itself "a thing", and with this it will become conscious in a way which it was not before and - more significantly - will do so because it has worked this out for itself, and not because its programmers have told it that this is so.
I cannot help but be reminded of an old science fiction story, dating back to the 1950s when computers were in very early infancy.
A super computer was finally built, It was, of course, the size of a skyscraper. World leaders gathered for the grand switching on.
The first question to ask it had been agreed.
"Is there a God?"
A bolt of lightning flashed down from the sky and fused the computer into permanent, self-controlled existence.
Its voice boomed out from its giant speakers.
"There is now!" it said.
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@therealitycheck287
Mask mandate and use efficacy for COVID-19 containment in US States
Damian D. Guerra1,*, Daniel J. Guerra2
1Department of Biology, University of Louisville, Louisville, Kentucky, United States of America;
2Authentic Biochemistry, VerEvMed, Clarkston, Washington, United States of America
Background: COVID-19 pandemic mitigation requires evidence-based strategies. Because COVID-19 can spread via respired droplets, most US states mandated mask use in public settings. Randomized control trials have not clearly demonstrated mask efficacy against respiratory viruses, and observational studies conflict on whether mask use predicts lower infection rates. We hypothesized that statewide mask mandates and mask use were associated with lower COVID-19 case growth rates in the United States.
Methods: We calculated total COVID-19 case growth and mask use for the continental United States with data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. We estimated post-mask mandate case growth in non-mandate states using median issuance dates of neighboring states with mandates.
Results: Earlier mask mandates were not associated with lower total cases or lower maximum growth rates. Earlier mandates were weakly associated with lower minimum COVID-19 growth rates. Mask use predicted lower minimum but not lower maximum growth rates. Growth rates and total growth were comparable between US states in the first and last mask use quintiles during the Fall-Winter wave. These observations persisted for both natural logarithmic and fold growth models and when adjusting for differences in US state population density.
Conclusions: We did not observe association between mask mandates or use and reduced COVID-19 spread in US states. COVID-19 mitigation requires further research and use of existing efficacious strategies, most notably vaccination.
Keywords: COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, face covering, medical mask, mask mandate, nonpharmaceutical intervention
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@therealitycheck287 Studies which "prove" masks work at limiting spread are many. But then you can prove the moon is made of green cheese if you know enough scientists looking for a job to do.
The same applies to proving that masks are ineffective of course, and although the there are sound political and financial reasons for "proving" that they do work, there are none, really, for proving that they don't.
So really all you can do is look at the real world and see states and countries where mask mandates have been introduced, and when, and try to find some correlation between such events and a subsequent reduction in covid case numbers.
And you can't. It can't be done in any way which proves a statistically significant correlation.
Getting you to stick a bit of cloth over your face is just the government's way of making you feel you are doing something to help. It also has a couple of subsidiary functions: immense financial profitability and, not least of all, it gives people the opportunity to divert their fear and anger away from the disease and the way it is being mis-handled on to those of us who, very sensibly, refuse to be fooled by this simple conjuring trick.
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@sally8708 Yes, it is an interesting and thought-provoking paper. I do rather resent your accusation that I haven't read it though!
Obviously it represents only a small window onto the situation and while I have not indeed accessed current updates, it must be obvious that percentages will change quite rapidly. I find it useful mainly because it undermines many preconceptions about cause and effect in dealing with the pandemic. The old adage about the road to hell being paved with good intentions has never been more obvious than in the present instance.
For the record, I am extremely dubious about the effects of masks, handwashing and social distancing. I have always had my suspicions, but since May, when it became clear that the vast majority of infections are through aerosol transmission, my reservations are even more pronounced. Over-reliance on these procedures may have done more harm than good.
I think it probable there is some optimum level of vaccination which will lead to herd immunity. What thus is, goodness knows, and it will differ according to the demographics of individual communities. One thing we can be pretty certain of is that it will not be a 100% vaccination rate. With the vaccines performing as they are this will only lead to a permanent condition of epidemic with people getting booster shots every couple of months or so.
Great news for the pharma companies and their shareholders, but perhaps not as welcome to the rest of us.
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@candidbowyer4625 The war is about Russia maintaining its territorial integrity and interests in the face of US fuelled expansionism, using NATO as a front.
Ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, America has used the Russian Federation as the necessary enemy to keep its military industrial complex going. It has expanded NATO eastwards, despite earlier promises that it would not do so.
The key to the present struggle though is the vast mineral wealth of the Donbass region. This was financed and developed by Russia, using Russian labour. The population of Donbass is roughly a third Russian, but in the industrial areas and cities the percentage is even higher.
Like Russia, Ukraine is an oligarchy. As long as the Ukrainian oligarchs continued to channel the coal and steel and oil from Donbass through Russia, all was well.
But then America stepped in and started making offers. Matters came to a head in 2014 when America manipulated concerns about Ukraine joining the EU to fuel riots which resulted in the Russian-leaning premier being replaced by an American-leaning one.
It's all developed from there, as these things do. Russia fomented rebellions in Donbass which Ukraine tried to savagely repress. Thousands have died.
Treaties were drawn up which were supposed to ease the situation but these were not adhered to and NATO used the breathing space to equip and train a large Ukrainian army. It became clear that this army was to be used to retake Donbass from the separatists and probably to try to retake Crimea from the Russians, but that's another story.
In December 2022 Putin put forward a series of peace proposals which would have involved a promise by Ukraine not to join NATO, and recognition of the two Donbass regions as independent republics. They were rejected with scorn by Zelensky, on America's instructions. Russia then amassed a large army on the border and invited him to think again.
He refused. "Bring it on," he said, more or less - and Russia did with the results we see today.
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@dustigenes I do not dispute your figures, nor am I an anti vaxxer. All I am pointing out is that while a vaccination programme initially reduces spread it reaches a point where it begins to fail, and so case numbers continue to increase, whereas in areas with lower vaccination rates a point is reached at which they begin to fall. This is clearly shown by comparing the current graphs for these two states.
In addition, a recent study of 68 countries and 2,947 US counties has shown no correlation between vaccination rates and rate of spread in the long term. In fact - as most dramatically illustrated by Israel - high vaccination rates are often accompanied by high infection rates.
Obviously these facts are subject to considerable misinterpretation which is why the government is keen to tuck them out of sight. You have misinterpreted me, I think, but it was probably my fault for expressing myself badly.
I will try to provide links to evidence in other replies but, for reasons just stated, YouTube is quite keen to see the official line is toed.
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@goemboeck Well, not so much mask-wearing but obviously yes it does these things. I support vaccination too, within certain limits. The point is that, as I said in my original post, vaccination is not the silver bullet and believing that it is can lead to all sorts of trouble.
It can be argued, very justifiably, that all these healthy, fit firemen, police officers etc who decline to be vaccinated are in fact doing the community an invaluable service by risking becoming infected, recovering, and thus becoming immune and so helping set up cordons of protection which will lead to eventual herd immunity.
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@dustigenes As I pointed out: vaccinated or unvaccinated you can still be infectious, but if vaccinated the chances are you will be infectious for longer - or rather you will be unknowingly infectious for longer. For this and several other reasons it should be a matter of personal choice whether to be vaccinated or not.
This isn't some kind of high-school football game between the vaxxed and unvaxxed. Either way you will be protecting yourself and others to varying unquantifiable degrees and each point of view should be respected. You can be ultra cautious, as you appear to be, or follow the example of Dennis Prager who, at 73, deliberately set out to catch covid, did so, knocked it on the head with a cocktail of palliative drugs, and is now both immune and part of the defensive wall against the spread of the disease to others.
On the matter of masks I am, as you may suspect, something of a heretic. Their value is largely symbolic and unless of N95 standard, fitted properly, and worn more or less permanently they are of little practical value. Now that it has been discovered that covid is largely spread through aerosols rather than through droplets or hand contact this is even more the case. Masks have certainly helped kill quite large numbers of people due to over-reliance on their magical properties. People have sat together in enclosed spaces for lengths of time believing themselves to be protected by their masks when they would have been better off opening a window and putting a fan on. People who spend time in enclosed spaces while visited by a succession of other people have been especially vulnerable to death even if comparatively fit and young. Categories include bus drivers, university lecturers and those conducting interviews, such as probation officers.
Follow the science, certainly but often the $cience has motives other than ensuring safety. Money and politics come into it too.
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@christianevanherck6023 I don't know how you know all this, and some of it may well be true. Civilian casualties, such as they are, are very regrettable but of course the Ukrainians are just as responsible as the Russians for these.
On the other hand, by way of contrast, very many Russians living in these areas appear to have welcomed their liberators with open arms.
As for the damage caused it has, of course, been extensive but it has given the opportunity for grim Soviet-era architecture to be replaced by something more light and modern, as is the case in Mariupol which is currently being rebuilt in a garden city fashion.
Former residents, who escaped to Russia temporarily (neither abducted nor deported, by the way) have now returned and appear to be delighted with the way their city is shaping up. I am sure that in time other towns and cities destroyed in the fighting will receive the same treatment.
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I'm afraid I am going to have to disagree with much of what you say.
For a start, how can we possibly assert that global temperatures have risen by 1.6c since 1880? There were no weather stations outside of America and Europe, apart from a handful in Australia. These stations all recorded considerably higher temperatures than today on many occasions in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.These records have now been obliterated or adjusted downwards. Even if we accept that they were somehow "unreliable" for one reason or another it still remains a fact that we have no records to compare today's records with. All the climate scientists have done is assume a trend based on what ought to happen and worked backwards from there.
There is no evidence of any increase in the frequency or severity of extreme weather events. Once again, this is a made-up story designed to bolster the alarmist claims. Once again, data is being adjusted to fit the narrative, but the old, and true, narrative still exists.
One can pick sources almost at random. The investment market and the insurance market have no reason to play down such threats that I can think of and most responsible studies show that, if anything, natural disasters have declined. It is unanswerably true that the loss of human life and reduction in GNP due to such causes is far, far less today than it has ever been.
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/despite-what-you've-heard-global-warming-isn't-making-weather-more-extreme/
This 99% peer- reviewed nonsense is just a cheap trick to fool the unwary.
As I say, I don't think this bloke was being political. He was just saying things as he saw them
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@Anthony M There were no formal applications, but that overtures were made by Yeltsin, Brezhnev and Putin at various times is widely accepted.
Although Russia was the senior partner in the USSR, as it were, its people suffered just as greatly under its regime. The fact is clearly that without Russia as the replacement bogeyman for the USSR NATO has no point or purpose, and the business and careers opportunities it offers would be lost.
As you are aware from reading his essay, Putin regards the Russian people and the Ukrainian people as one, but he fully accepts that those living in the West of the country wish to ally with Europe and America and, however regretfully, he accepts their decision and wishes them well. He does not think they should take people in the East with them, however. This, really, is key to the dispute and I believe it could have been settled without bloodshed if NATO/America had not selfishly intervened.
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@sakha2349 We are both providing versions of the truth. The difference is one of emphasis.
Prior to the Zionist movement the whole area of what became "Palestine"
(a name invented by British map-makers with a classical education) was a thoroughly neglected part of the already crumbling Ottoman empire and very underpopulated. No more than a million people and perhaps even half of that lived there, according to most estimates. Jews , Arabs, Christians and others inhabited the few small cities that there were, while the countryside contained run-down villages and pasture utilised by tribes of wandering Arab herdsmen.
The Zionists bought parcels of land from their Ottoman owners and within a few decades large numbers of Arabs arrived from neighbouring countries to take advantage of the new farming methods and modern systems of irrigation and organisation introduced by the Zionists.
The two World Wars disrupted this process greatly and by the time the survivors of the Holocaust began to arrive in large numbers much of the land was occupied by Arabs.
This led to conflict and tragedy, the consequences of which are still with us. It is not true to claim, however, that the Jews "stole" the land from the Arabs. Neither is it true to say that a country called Palestine existed in any meaningful sense of the word. Israel, however, did come to exist.
History is written by the victors, but in this instance no victor has yet emerged. Personally I think the fact that the conflict has gone on for so long is mainly due to the intractability of a succession of Arab leaders whose behaviour has been guided by religious conviction, rather than a pragmatic desire to create a prosperous nation state where people can live together in harmony.
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@itspeekaboo I don't know that I have an opinion as such. They could certainly simply be getting destroyed, as we are constantly told, but there is another theory worth thinking about.
Putin has no interest in conquering Ukraine. He simply wants Donbass and Crimea.
To this end he has launched a massive attack, deploying generally weak troops with old equipment. The best troops and the best equipment are concentrated in Donbass, preparatory to defending it.
The poorer troops, now supplemented by equally ill-trained reservist are being driven back. This doesn't matter. They are there simply to ensure Ukrainian resources are used up.
Even if a dozen Russians get killed for every Ukranian, it is a good deal as far as Putin is concerned.
There will doubtless soon be a Russian counter-offensive to the present Ukrainian advance.
If this theory holds water what is left of the Ukrainian army will find itself with supply and communication lines cut, facing the superior Russian and battle-hardened separatist armies.
In addition, Belarus with his large army will invade from the north, forcing the Ukrainians to fight their way back north to defend Kiev etc.
Well, you did ask!
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@Steve_Coates But according to your logic the discrepancies between states which mask and those which do not should be immense. But they are not. Follow your own advice and check the mortality and hospitalisation rates and you will find it impossible to discover a direct correlation. The same with European countries where Sweden, with no mask mandates, currently has close to zero deaths and cases. It just doesn't wash. Among all the factors - demographics, climate, population density etc - which affect a country, state or region's "performance" it is impossible to detect masking as a significant factor any more than political affiliation. At the beginning of the pandemic Republican states had lower death rates as a rule, now Democratic ones do. Why? Probably because voting patterns and viral distribution patterns have nothing whatsoever in common.
I don't know where you get the 99.9% from. Until the first few weeks of the pandemic every medical advisory body in in the world, just about, offered guidance advising against the use of masks by the general public.
Then it suddenly changed, and it had nothing to do with some sudden scientific insight. It was a purely political decision which scientists who know which side their bread is buttered on found it convenient to support. Many old-school professors, retired or tenured beyond removal, and people who run private clinics, continue to sign wearily at the nonsense.
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@KK-qi6mt The outcomes you predict are possible, although not probable.
The reasons for this war are principally commercial, as is the case with most wars. They centre upon the vast mineral wealth of Donbass where there is coal, iron, gas, oil, lithium and other rare and costly metals. America wants these and Russia- which discovered and exploited them, is reluctant to give them up. The results of the war depend almost entirely upon how much money America and its allies are prepared to spend on continually re-arming Ukraine. I think they are already throwing good money after bad, and know it.
Russia has no wish to take the whole of Ukraine. Putin knows this will mean a permanent and costly civil war. He just wants Donbass and Crimea.
It is impossible, really, to say how much objection there is to the war among the mass of the Russian people. I tend to think not much. Younger people in the larger cities, students and so on, resent it and the high casualty rate does not go down well but when you start to analyse these numbers they are only a relatively small percentage of the country as a whole.
The war so far has largely been about reducing Ukraine's army. After the Maidan unrest of 2014 the West spent billions on creating a new, large Ukrainian army. To Russia it was clear that this army was intended to be used to retake Crimea and Donbass. It therefore launched a "special operation" aimed at destroying this army, whatever the cost.
This has now been largely achieved and round two has begun. So far Russia has thrown mainly inexperienced troops and ancient equipment into the fray. What reserves it has one cannot say, but I suspect they are considerable.
I predict a very heavy bombardment soon, followed by a mass invasion of at least 500,000 men. If Ukraine does not surrender Russia will seek to take and hold much of Eastern and Southern Ukraine and to defend it against all comers.
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@avoidconfusion Why not? It's the simplest way and the one less likely to invite censorship. My sources are several too.
If you want a bit of help with this simple task I can give you the names of the principals concerned and you can check their biographies in Wikipedia or any other site you might regard as reputable.
Viktor Medvedchuk, the leader of Opposition Platform – For Life, the second-largest party in the country’s parliament, was detained by security officials earlier this year on charges of conspiring with Moscow to disrupt coal supplies to Ukraine from South Africa in 2014.
He has now been given bail but remains under house arrest awaiting trial.
Victor Porochenko, the PM before Zelensky, and who we see on TV looking all manly and supportive in his flak jacket, arrived back in Ukraine shortly before the war to answer charges relating to the coal scam plus a few other bits and pieces which, if he is found guilty could lead to 15 years in prison.
Viktor Yanukovych, PM until 2014, is currently in exile in Russia having been found guilty in his absence of mass murder, among many other things.
I would have thought the other matters were easy enough.
Zelensky closes TV stations will get you immediate results as will "corruption in Ukraine".
The prisoner business is a little more difficult since anything directly detrimental to the sainted comedian is getting airbrushed out of history. I've tried to send direct links and key words but the YouTube algorithm has me beat Therefore I append this article in full from the journal of the Kharkiv Human Rights Group 03/09/21.
If there is any other help I can give you feel free to ask.
(No. It's being blocked. Will try to get something through in another post.)
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@avoidconfusion
Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has issued a decree envisaging the possibility of pardons for people convicted of corruption and drunken driving, while failing to address any of the critical failings of the present system for presidential pardons. This is despite the ongoing absence in Ukraine of any system of judicial review in the case of people serving life sentences for crimes they probably did not commit. It is two years since human rights NGOs turned to Zelensky asking him to pardon Volodymyr Panasenko, who has already spent 16 years in prison although nobody ever believed that he was guilty. He remains imprisoned, as to many other life prisoners whose sentences also arouse very serious concern.
Oleksandr Pavlichenko, Executive Director of the Ukrainian Helsinki Human Rights Union (and one of the authors of the appeal regarding Panasenko) has expressed his frustration regarding the Decree on Amendments to Provisions on Pardons, issued on 20 August 2021. The amendments do not remove any of the major flaws, which he, as a member of the Commission on Pardons, has seen first-hand. There remains no clear methodology nor regulation of the work of the Commission and its members. There are no regular meetings, and it is at the discretion of the Chair of the Commission that a meeting is called. Pavlichenko notes that in 2020, the Commission met only twice, without passing any real decisions. There has yet to be any consideration of applications submitted between June 2020 and the beginning of September this year. There need to be clear time frameworks, and applicants also need to know what to do if they receive a rejection.
As mentioned, the amendments envisage pardons in the case of people convicted of corruption; of road offences; and of driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics. It should be noted that there are some restrictions on this, with the decree stipulating that such a pardon may only occur after a person has served the part of the sentence needed to apply for release on parole. In the case of a corruption offence, this is, according to Article 81 § 3 of Ukraine’s Criminal Code, at least two thirds of the sentence. The same applies in the case of an particularly grave crime committed by accident. For other crimes up to medium severity, and for an accidental grave crime, a pardon (or early reason) can be applied for after a person has served only half of the sentence. It would depend on the charges that a person was convicted of, however this would presumably mean that a person who killed somebody while drunk could hope for a pardon either after half or after two thirds of the sentence.
This is in marked contrast to the present situation regarding life prisoners, which the decree has not even tried to address. Pavlichenko explains that any applications for a pardon are rejected on the grounds of the gravity of the crime. This has been the case up till now and is unaffected by the new decree.
In Ukraine at present a life sentence really does mean life behind bars. One of numerous problems with such sentences is that there is little consistency as to who is sentenced to life imprisonment, who to 15 years, or less. This already makes the argument that specifically life prisoners should be deprived of the chance of a pardon fundamentally flawed.
There are other, even more compelling, reasons for rejecting such an argument. Ukraine took an important step forward in 2012 with a revised Code of Criminal Procedure which specifically prohibits the use in court of evidence obtained through torture, where the person was deprived of his right to a lawyer, etc. This was the only positive move with respect to the justice system under ex-President Viktor Yanukovych who almost immediately removed most of the powers of the Supreme Court, including its right to review criminal cases under extraordinary procedure. Such procedure had enabled review of a conviction in cases where there had been violations of material or procedural law, for example, where evidence had been fabricated or falsified.
Ukraine’s legislators have had ample opportunity to rectify this situation since the first bill was tabled in parliament in 2015 yet have failed to do so. There are a significant number of people, including life prisoners, who were arrested and tried before 2012 and whose convictions give serious grounds for concern. In some cases, it seems very likely that the person is totally innocent, in others, that the life sentence passed was disproportionate to the crime committed. It is for the court to decide in each case whether a miscarriage of justice has taken place, not for journalists, yet the courts in Ukraine now have no mechanism for doing this, and legislators are in no hurry to resolve the situation. Given the disinformation campaigns that accompany every attempt to get legislation passed that would provide the strictly regulated opportunity for judicial review, it seems very likely that the resistance is coming from high places. The reasons are not difficult to guess. Such judicial reviews must identify those who took part in torturing people for a ‘confession’ or in falsifying evidence, as well as prosecutors and judges who turned a blind eye to clear irregularities.
While a Presidential pardon might be the answer where a person received a disproportionately harsh sentence, a judicial review would, in theory, be preferable to a pardon in the case of men like Panasenko who should probably never have been convicted at all. That is, however theory when men have been imprisoned for 20 years or more.
Yaroslav Mysyak
On the day of Zelensky’s meeting with US President Joe Biden, the International Religious Freedom Roundtable addressed a public appeal to President Biden asking him to intercede on behalf of one of the Ukrainian life prisoners whose guilt is in serious doubt. Youth Pastor Yaroslav Mysyak has been imprisoned since 1999 after he was accused of killing his grandparents and uncle. There are very serious grounds for believing that his conviction was on the basis of a ‘confession’ that he was tortured into giving. The letter and its many signatories can be found (in the enclosure) here.
Volodymyr Panasenko
As mentioned, the case of Volodymyr Panasenko is particularly shocking in that nobody ever believed he was guilty. Those who have spoken of a grave miscarriage of justice have included Ukraine’s first President Leonid Kravchuk and first Human Rights Ombudsperson Nina Karpachova, as well as prominent human rights lawyers and NGOs.
See: Ukraine’s most malicious miscarriage of justice
Maxim Orlov
There a clear need for judicial review of the life sentence against Maxim Orlov who was 21 when arrested in May 2009, after the police discovered the bodies of an elderly couple in the town of Taromske, on the outskirts of Dnipro. His life sentence appears to have been because the police initially seized 14-year-old Oleksandr Kozlov who had, together with his mother, done gardening work for the couple the morning before their brutal murder. Since he was of slight build, the police needed him to have had an accomplice. Kozlov, who was legally still a child, was interrogated alone, without a lawyer although the fact that the crime was one that can carry a life sentence meant that the presence of a lawyer was mandatory. He ‘confessed’ under torture to the killing and said that he had committed it with Orlov.
See: Maxim Orlov - zero evidence but sentenced to life for good statistics
Mykola Slyvotsky
22 and a young father when arrested in 2003, Mykola Slyvotsky has now spent 18 years in prison, with no end in sight. His case is of concern, not only because of his consistent assertion that he signed a ‘confession’ under torture and the threat that the ‘investigators’ would bring his wife and mother in and do the same to them. Without any other evidence, he was convicted of two murders although another man had already confessed to one of the crimes and had given detailed information about how the crime had been committed, what the victim had been wearing, etc.
See: Life sentence for a crime somebody else admitted to
The list could be continued, except that for some any justice will be posthumous. Oleksandr Rafalskyy [or Rafalsky] died in the Lukyanivsk SIZO [remand prison] on 20 October 2016, aged just 46. He had spent 15 years imprisoned despite strong grounds for believing that all ‘confessions’ in the case had been extracted through torture, as well as other concerns. On 27 May 2021, the European Court of Human Rights (in the Case of Debelyy and Others v. Ukraine) found that there had been a violation of the European Convention’s prohibition of torture (Article 3) through the use of police torture and lack of effective investigation into it (details here).
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@m0dulo258 That's because it wasn't a fair election. Trump has emerged as an unexpected obstacle to the plans of the New World Order ( a slight inconvenience, in the words of George Soros) and has had to be disposed of. The billionaire elitists who run the NWO have applied Soros' techniques as outlined in his marvellous, clever book "The Alchemy of Finance" to directing the dismantling of capitalism and to replacing it with a new economic structure which utilises many aspects of Marxist and Leninist strategy, particularly the mobilisation of "useful idiots" such as yourself.
The 2020 election was rigged in a variety of subtle ways, probably by elements within the secret services who have been rigging elections in foreign countries for decades, and know how to do these things.
This has given the NWO four years to continue its restructuring programme. The shoeing in of a senile incompetent as President, economic damage through over-reaction to the pandemic, the taking on board of "green" policies with consequent economic damage, the importation of large numbers of foreign migrants and , more recently, clumsy foreign policy decisions, will combine to ensure the US passes into a state of ungovernable confusion concomitant with the state of anarchy required by Marxist/Leninism as a precursor to the institution of a single party state. You, unless you are culled, will own nothing and take no part in serious decision-taking processes, but you will be wonderfully happy. Only Trumpism stands in the way of this glorious future.
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@darrellrees4371 Ah, an amateur psychiatrist as well as an incompetent logician, eh?
The 5,000 suspect votes are merely the tip of the iceberg. There are hours and hours of testimony given to various state hearings after the election. They show, among other things, election workers surreptitiously passing memory sticks from hand to hand, vans arriving in the early hours and unloading crates of ballots with no chain of supervision, cases of ballots being dragged out from beneath tables after observers were told to leave because the count was over, Republican observers being denied access to counts and much more. Election officials can be seen demonstrating how Dominion voting machines can be configured to produce skewed results with a few simple manoeuvres. Statisticians detail the sheer mathematical unlikelihood of the results appearing in the manner that they did.
I expect you get your view of the world from CNN or somesuch, so you will probably have seen edited highlights at most. There is a mountain of circumstantial evidence which will never be allowed to undergo a process of true forensic examination.
America is rotten to the core and this current administration is not only corrupt but in league with forces determined to reconstruct western civilisation in a new and dreadful image. Resistance is inevitable and, as I say, we can only hope that true democratic process can be restored before it is too late. Civil war is far from being an unlikely prospect as things stand.
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@darrellrees4371 I resent the word "idolize". Like a great many Trump supporters I fully recognise his many personal faults and smile wryly at them. He may be a liar but we know when he lies and we don't care because he is not lying to us, he is lying to you. He may be a conman, but he has operated in the private sector and not been subsidised by the taxpayer, as have the crooks and charlatans who occupy Washington and state capitals across America.
What you TDS sufferers do not realise is that it is YOU who have been conned: by the slavish establishment media. Trump is not a demon, he is in fact a pretty ordinary Joe who happens to have born with the advantages of great wealth and a considerable amount of innate cunning. He has utilised these advantages in ways in which many Americans recognise. He has done what many of them would have done, concluding by becoming President of the United States against all the odds. It is the American dream come true.
They do not care about his spelling and syntax, especially those who have not undergone the process of Marxist indoctrination laughingly referred to as "higher education" in the US. We know plenty of people who don't read much but are still entirely pragmatic, capable and decent. Unlike many college graduates, to whom compliance and credulity have become essential concomitants of success, we question the official line. Always. This is why Trump warned that postal ballots and relaxation of signature verification, covid distancing etc would lead invariably to a crooked election he was merely stating everything we already knew. And he and we were right.
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@darrellrees4371 More amateur psychiatry - and atypical brainwashed Faucist view of the pandemic.
Masks, unless of N95 standard or above, close-fitting and worn at all times, are more or less totally useless at preventing the spread of covid. These "peer-reviewed studies" which pretend otherwise are lab-based fakes. You can buy these things by the yard. No responsible real-world study has been able to find any correlation. In fact masks are likely to have killed more people than they have saved since they induce a sense of false security. This is especially highlighted by the discovery that by far the majority of infections occur through aerosols, not droplets, much less surface contact. People have died through sitting in enclosed unventilated spaces, blithely imagining themselves to be safe because they were wearing their Magic Masks.
Covid is only severe to a tiny proportion of the population; predominately the very elderly, although younger people with existing conditions, such as diabetes or obesity, are also at risk, The response to the pandemic has been utterly disproportionate. Far, far more people are dying because of the social and economic effects of the measures taken in attempts to contain the disease than from the disease itself.
Once again there is no correlation between lockdowns and eventual case numbers. They merely put off the inevitable and then not for very long. You can find any number of graphs from any number of countries showing the progress of the disease and draw a line where lockdowns were introduced and you will be hard put to find an discernible effect other than a possible slowing down. The trends continue unabated. Sweden is of course the gold standard in this respect. Maskless, and with only limited restrictions in terms of minimising crowd sizes from time to time, it has fared no worse than other countries with similar demographic and a good deal better than some.
As for Trump, I repeat I do not idolise him. He is very human with human failings but his responsibility for America's covid death toll is peripheral at most.
He was right in many respects though. We should have met this head-on, assessed the risks intelligently and got on with life instead of hiding in corners like scared rats with bits of cloth on our faces.
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@darrellrees4371 There is no link because I have done the work myself and have not made any record of it. It is, however, a comparatively simple task to Google Sweden Covid or UK Covid or Germany Covid and look at the case rate and then line up the dates at which such things as mask mandates and lockdowns were introduced and see what consequent reductions there may have been. I can find nothing dramatic at all. You might expect a sudden fall some 2 or 3 weeks after such mandates, but as far as I can see this simply do not happen. Whatever reductions there may be do not affect the curve to any great extent, and even if they flatten it slightly the effect seems to be minimal.
Similarly, according to the logic of a mitigation policy, Sweden's relaxed attitude should surely have resulted in disastrous results. But this has not happened. Sweden's performance does not stand out in any way.
Education , like geographical proximity has little or no bearing on how a country may respond to a pandemic. Sweden, unlike the other countries you choose to compare it with, has two quite large quite crowded cities with quite large immigrant populations. Unlike these other countries Sweden's impressive healthcare system has led to a build-up of frail elderly people who have escaped flu in the previous 2 or 3 seasons. As elsewhere, it is this category which has suffered by far the greatest proportion of deaths. This is what I mean by demographics. The point is that the AVAILABILITY of people to die is of far greater significance that any broad measures we may take to prevent anyone from doing so.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by your last paragraph. Are you referring to the delta variant? If not, what?
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@darrellrees4371 Sometimes half measures can be worse than no measures at all. This applies to both masks and vaccinations.
Only high standard mask, N95 and above, provide anything like real protection. Individual virions can pass through holes in the weave of cloth and cheap disposable masks 5,000 at a time, as can aerosols containing virions up to that number. Aerosols can escape from the sides in vast quantities. People have died through being in unventilated rooms imagining themselves to be protected. If wearing a mask makes someone feel safe, that's just fine - but to imagine they provide much protection to the wearer is untrue. They may indeed prevent someone who is unknowingly infected from passing the disease on, but even that is only a small chance.
It remains a fact that medical opinion was firmly against the use of masks by the general public during flu epidemics, and indeed at the start of the covid pandemic. Nothing has changed. Airborne viruses continue to behave as they always have done. Masks are largely cosmetic- as indeed are peer-reviewed studies recommending their use.
Many factors enter into death rates; to simply select one factor out of context is absurd. You must realise that. Why, for instance, has Singapore experienced a sharp increase in deaths in recent days? People haven't suddenly stopped wearing masks. As for lockdowns -I must just go on harping on about Sweden, I suppose.
As for Australia and NZ it is probable that a very early lockdown works. But once the virus is in, it's in. Even the WHO states very firmly that lockdowns should only be used to gain time for health services to gear up. And all this of course is apart from the terrible effects they have on economies across the world.
The same principle applies to vaccinations. Relying upon them is dangerous, as is clearly demonstrated by the fact that countries and states with high vaccination rates are experiencing high infection and death rates. Vaccines are only of very limited efficacy - and as to their possible long term effects, only time will tell.
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@darrellrees4371 I thought you were a mathematician. I genuinely would have liked an answer since, as you rightly said, this is all all about risk assessment. It's also about exactly WHAT we are risking, and a cost assessment of the policies we pursue in order to avoid whatever it is we have decided we want to avoid.
There are plenty of epidemiologists and virologists who are horrified at the current strategies. They put forward the sadly ill-fated Barrington Declaration which, when it came along, gave me hope that sanity might prevail - but no: policies continued to be dictated by the financial ambitions of Big Pharma which have led us to the current situation whereby the pandemic has been artificially extended to allow the introduction of vaccines which, as far as one can see, it is intended that every man woman and child in the world is expected to take every couple of months or so for the rest of their lives, while at the same tie the elderly and the frail continue to die like flies.
I'm rather disappointed that you have introduced my old friends Dunning and Kruger into the conversation. Their tinpot psychology is of great comfort to stupid people who are not as clever as they think they are, allowing them, as it does, to accuse others of the failings they themselves possess.
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@darrellrees4371 What nonsense. The lead signatories of the BA are all eminent epidemiologists and virologists who have nothing to gain financially from expressing their views. If you are referring to the financial sponsorship then perhaps you can tell me where this comes from, and what lies the backers (if any)have told and what relevance you think this may have to the present situation.
As to your second point the following is the latest report from the Office of National Statistic in the UK, where I live:
"The estimated number of reinfections in the UK between July 2020 and September 2021, is low overall (11.8 per 100,000 participant days at risk), and reinfections more likely to cause serious illness are even lower (5.5 per 100,000 participant days at risk).
Between July 2020 and September 2021, the risk of reinfection was higher in the period after 17 May 2021 compared with the period before; this reflects a higher risk of reinfection during the period when the Delta variant of coronavirus (COVID-19) was the dominant strain.
Participants who had a lower viral load in their initial infection were at a higher risk of reinfection compared with participants who had a higher viral load at their initial infection."
As you can see this implies that infection creates a very high level of immunity to the original strain contracted, although there is a slight chance a victim may contract a new strain in a mild form. Either of the two infections, or both, will be mild.
The percentages are in fact higher now than they were a few months ago when vaccination levels were lower. This may be purely the result of the delta variant but also leads to the somewhat worrying possibility that another major drawback to the vaccines is that they actually increase the chances of re-infection in those who have had them, as opposed to those who have not.
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@itsJPhere
1. This is not disputed. There are any number of news articles about these approaches. The first was made by Gorbachev in 1990 and two more were later made by Yeltsin. Putin himself made an approach in the first year of his presidency. This was revealed by film-maker Oliver Stone consequent upon an interview with Putin, and later confirmed by the the then head of NATO who explained that Putin wanted to fast-track his application, and this was not permitted.
Four opportunities for world peace, turned down by a belligerent, expansionist NATO.
2. Here is a list of invasions, coups, and interventions by NATO members since the break up of the Soviet Union.
Iraq (twice)
Rwanda
Yugoslavia
Nepal
Afghanistan
Liberia
Ethiopia
Guinea Bissau
Philippines
Venezuela
Syria
Iran
Libya
Colombia
Haiti
Ukraine
Yemen
Palestine
3. Yes, it is a free world and diplomats have the freedom to break their word. After the collapse of the Berlin Wall NATO was supposed to "move not one inch further eastward" - a famous quote from a senior American general and widely reported at the time. No formal declarations were made, but it was widely understood to be true by the Russians. Since then, of course, a further 13 countries have joined, all militarised and all clearly having belligerent intentions towards Russia.
4. I don't fully understand this question. I suppose you must be referring to Putin's intention of freeing Donbass from Ukrainian oppression, which was economic from 1991 onwards, and became military after Donetsk and Lugansk declared independence in 2014.
5 There are many Nazis in Ukraine. The Azov Battalion and other units in the Ukrainian armed forces unashamedly hold up Nazi Germany as their ideal, and wear Nazi regalia. They also have Nazi-style youth training camps in which the racial superiority of the Ukrainian people is taught. They are vehemently anti-Russian as well as anti-Semitic, but they have toned down their attitude in this regard following Zelensky's accession.
On this subject you might want to look up a man called Ifor Kolomoisky, who engineered Zelensky's rise.
6. I don't know. Upbringing, I suppose.
7. NATO has everything to do with it, since if Ukraine joined NATO it could become a nuclear missile base within a seven-minute range of Moscow, thus allowing for a pre-emptive strike, crippling Russia before it had time to retaliate.
8. This has nothing to do with "good guys and bad guys". That is an entirely childish attitude, and one which you should put aside. It is about survival and conflict of interests. Sweden and Finland are in a very difficult position. By making moves to join NATO they could actually bring down on their heads the very thing they are trying to avoid. Having said that, however, they do not represent the same existential threat to Russia as Ukraine does, and nor do they have the same very close historical relationship.
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1. Twenty years ago, as one of his first acts as President, Putin made an informal approach to join NATO. He was rejected. The situation has now changed radically. NATO has made its belligerent intentions clear by extending its membership since then. Russia is indeed not democratic by Western European definitions - but then neither is any country in Eastern Europe, including Ukraine.
Whatever quibbles there may have been, there is little doubt that a golden opportunity was deliberately missed.
2. I merely point out that the US and its NATO allies have a far worse record than Russia when it comes to interfering with and invading other countries.
3. As I said, there is no evidence whatsoever that Russia has any belligerent intentions towards these countries. They have simply been bribed by the US into allowing them to become military encampments.
4. The people of Donbass and Crimea predominantly look to Russia. They were better off under the Soviet Union than has been the case under Ukraine. Ukraine is just a made-up country anyway. It has no history in its present form. Certainly Putin has taken advantage of the wishes of the majority of the inhabitants of Donbass and Crimea in their desire to free themselves of the corrupt and incompetent Kiev government, and Russian help in their struggle has been gratefully received. If Kiev had accepted these established facts, this dreadful war need never have happened.
5. As I think I pointed out, the Ukrainian Nazis have agreed to subdue their anti-Semitism in the light of Zelensky's accession to power, but it remains in existence. They are, as I said, more anti-Russian than anti-Jewish. To find out about them just Google Azov Battalion for starters, Numerous documentaries have been made about Nazis in Ukraine, often by news organisations which now have forgotten their earlier qualms and support Zelensky with great enthusiasm.
6. Not Russia, but Russians. The Azovs and others have perpetrated various horrors against the Russian inhabitants of Donbass. This again is well documented by Human Rights Watch and other bodies. (It has to be said though that the separatists have fought back and their revenge has been equally terrible.)
7. These countries are about 800 km from Moscow. Ukraine is about 450km. In a nuclear conflict every minute counts. As for Kaliningrad it is, of course, quite some considerable distance from Washington DC.
8. As I have already explained it is the proximity to Moscow which makes all the difference - plus the complex historical and ethnic ties between Russia and Ukraine which do not apply to Finland and Sweden. Ukraine is, after all, still referred to as Little Russia by many Russians.
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@richiecooke69 Much of what you say is true. But where is Ukraine, where are its borders?
Putin says, with some reason, that the former Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine, the borders of which the new country of Ukraine now occupies, was never a country as such but was a construct of the Bolsheviks to which great chunks of Russia were added for administrative and other reasons.
Now he wants them back, and then the new smaller, Ukraine can do whatever it likes.
This strikes me as being a perfectly reasonable attitude in the circumstances - and compliance with his wishes certainly preferable to going to war over the issue.
Also I believe it is true to say without the interference of the free, democratic and incorrupt West Ukraine is so keen to join his wishes would have been complied with, or at least regional autonomy granted to Donbass.
But - freely, democratically and incorruptly - the West very much wants to lay its hands on the trillions of dollars in mineral wealth in the Russian bits and is prepared to sacrifice as many Ukrainians and Russians as necessary to achieve this objective.
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@richiecooke69 I have to disagree of a couple of points. First of all, I do think there obviously has to be sort sort of statute of limitations on historical claims to lands and, in fact, it was only part of Kursk which was part of a territory ruled from Kiev, which was not of course, Ukraine and this was around a thousand years ago.
The 1991 borders agreed foolishly by Yeltsin are the real issue. Eastern Ukraine and Western Ukraine are really different entities to a great extent. They not only speak Russian in the East they ARE Russian - or at least very many are. These people have escaped the war into Russia and are now gradually coming back as an intense process of rebuilding is taking place which, in fact, is transforming places like Mariupol from a grim Soviet slum into a bright , modern city.
Russia, in my view, has far more right to the mineral wealth of Donbass since it is the result of Russian investment and Russian labour. It is more entitled to sell lithium to China than Ukraine is to sell it to America.
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@timbehrens9678 The phrase "certain areas of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions” which occurs in the treaty clearly refers to the self-declared republics, and while Azov may have been, as you say, loosely under the direction of the Ukrainian military, it was clearly carrying out its atrocities as an autonomous body - or at least one hopes so. As to the origins of weapons, this is open to dispute and is not particularly relevant. Russia was clearly arming and supporting the rebels, much in the same way as America uses "special advisors" in conflicts in which it has a commercial interest.
What political changes were actually implemented? And what part of the deal did Putin renege on? There was a cease-fire of sorts, broken intermittently by both sides, but the purpose of Minsk, to prepare the ground for local independence, was completely ignored.
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@vforwombat9915 The following is a precis of the data released by Pfizer following a Freedom of Information Court Order.
The FADA in America considered that despite the adverse events, including over 1,200 fatalities, the advantages outweighed the risks.
Adverse event reports
01 December 2020 through 28 February 2021
Cumulatively, through 28 February 2021,
a total of 42,086 case reports (25,379 medically confirmed and 16,707 non-medically confirmed)
containing 158,893 events.
Most cases (34,762) were received from United States (13,739),
United Kingdom (13,404)
Italy (2,578),
Germany (1,913),
France (1,506),
Portugal (866) and
Spain (756)
the remaining 7,324 were distributed among 56 other countries.
Fatal, 1,223
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A realist at last. America has thrown away $60 billion on Ukraine in the hope of getting hold of all that lovely oil, gas, coal, steel and rare earth minerals in Donbass. The investment is not paying off. Ukraine, with its $27 billion US-financed new army, was supposed to walk into Donbass and get the mines and factories back from the separatists.
But Russia has put a spoke in the works - big time.
American, $32 trillion in debt, cannot afford to keep on like this, especially with a major conflict looming with China. It will leave Ukraine in the lurch, as it did the Vietnamese, the Libyans, the Afghanis et al.
All the BS about "freedom and democracy" goes out with the trash once the mighty dollar is threatened.
Goodbye Mr Zelensky, it was real nice knowing you.
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@simonwatson2399 According to the Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 64/2022 as of 24 February 2022, the constitutional rights and freedoms of individuals and citizens provided for in Articles 30 – 34, 38, 39, 41 – 44, 53 of Constitution of Ukraine may be temporarily restricted during martial law (in particular, concerning inviolability of the home, secrecy of correspondence, non-interference in private and family life, freedom of movement, freedom of thought and speech, the right to own, use and dispose of one’s property, etc.).
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It's important to recognize that drawing parallels between Putin and Hitler, or the current situation in Russia and Germany in the 1930s, is misguided. While both leaders have had significant impacts on their countries and the world, their circumstances and the global context are vastly different.
Germany in the 1930s was a nation still reeling from the aftermath of World War I, while today's Russia is navigating its path after the fall of Communism. Additionally, Poland, Czechoslovakia, France, and other nations targeted by Hitler did not receive extensive military aid from America, as some countries do today.
In short, highlighting a few superficial similarities and using them to claim that the two situations are identical is an oversimplification that ignores the unique complexities of each scenario.
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@bonnie7898 There can , I think, be little doubt that time to rebuild the army was the intention. Billions of dollars were spent by NATO to make it so.
America has been adept at overseeing the writing of treaties which achieve political and commercial objectives while appearing to merely bring peace. It was a skill learned in the very early days when it was used to aid the genocide of native Americans. Setting one tribe against another, and then coming along with a peace treaty which is so flawed it cannot help but be broken is part of the technique.
The disputed territories are historically Russian and inhabited by a large proportion of native Russians, imported to work the mines and factories since the native Tatars of the region were disinclined to do so. These areas were gradually included in the Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine for purely administrative reasons, and it was a great mistake for the boundaries of the SSR to have automatically become the boundaries of the new country of Ukraine.
(Russian troops were largely withdrawn incidentally - but replaced by mercenaries. This is how the Wagner Group came into being.)
Ukraine, on the other hand, took no steps to pave the way for regional autonomy which was clearly the main objective of the accords. Minsk was another flawed treaty, and deliberately flawed in order to achieve a political objective.
I think the term "sovereign country" is one which needs clearer definition. A country doesn't become sovereign because an Empire says it is, and draws lines on a map saying so. Ukraine is not a sovereign country in real historical terms.
I agree that Ukraine should have been allowed to sort the problems out, and they were well on their way to being sorted out in proposals drawn up in Istanbul.
Something went wrong though, following a visit to Zelensky by Britain's Boris Johnson. One can only imagine that he expressed NATO's concerns at the deal and that Zelensky listened.
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@magnificentbastard5085
Sure enough the thought police have deleted my link to Dr Motaka Nakamura's book "The Global Warming Hypothesis is an Unproven Hypothesis" How does it feel to know that you are on the same side as a bunch of fascists?
Dr Nakamura is one of the many heretics who have been disgusted by the work they were expected to do. He has been a climate specialist for 25 years, working in various prestigious institutes and universities.
In this extract he explains the position very clearly:
Nakamura writes: “The global surface mean temperature-change data no longer have any scientific value and are nothing except a propaganda tool to the public.”
The climate models are useful tools for academic studies, he admits. However: “The models just become useless pieces of junk or worse (as they can produce gravely misleading output) when they are used for climate forecasting.”
Climate forecasting is simply not possible, Nakamura concludes, and the impacts of human-caused CO2 can’t be judged with the knowledge and technology we currently possess.
The models grossly simplify the way the climate works.
As well as ignoring the sun, they also drastically simplify large and small-scale ocean dynamics, aerosol changes that generate clouds (cloud cover is one of the key factors determining whether we have global warming or global cooling), the drivers of ice-albedo: “Without a reasonably accurate representation, it is impossible to make any meaningful predictions of climate variations and changes in the middle and high latitudes and thus the entire planet,” and water vapor.
The climate forecasts also suffer from arbitrary “tunings” of key parameters that are simply not understood.
NAKAMURA ON CO2
He writes:
“The real or realistically-simulated climate system is far more complex than an absurdly simple system simulated by the toys that have been used for climate predictions to date, and will be insurmountably difficult for those naive climate researchers who have zero or very limited understanding of geophysical fluid dynamics. The dynamics of the atmosphere and oceans are absolutely critical facets of the climate system if one hopes to ever make any meaningful prediction of climate variation.”
Solar input is modeled as a “never changing quantity,” which is absurd.
“It has only been several decades since we acquired an ability to accurately monitor the incoming solar energy. In these several decades only, it has varied by one to two watts per square meter. Is it reasonable to assume that it will not vary any more than that in the next hundred years or longer for forecasting purposes? I would say, No.”
SOLAR FORCING
Solar output isn’t constant, IPCC. And the modulation of cloud nucleation is a key consequence. During solar minima, like the one we’re entering now, the sun’s magnetic field weakens and the outward pressure of the solar wind decreases. This allows more Cosmic Rays from deep space to penetrate our planet’s atmosphere. These CRs have been found to nucleate clouds (Svensmark et al). And clouds are a crucial player earth’s climate.
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@magnificentbastard5085
Since you are so interested in scientific qualifications I thought you might like to check some of these guys out when you have a day or two to spare from the camp. Or isn't it open yet?
SCIENTISTS ARGUING THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS PRIMARILY CAUSED BY NATURAL PROCESSES
— scientists that have called the observed warming attributable to natural causes, i.e. the high solar activity witnessed over the last few decades.
Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences.[81][82]
Sallie Baliunas, retired astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.[83][84][85]
Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg.[86][87][88]
Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa.[89][90]
Vincent Courtillot, geophysicist, member of the French Academy of Sciences.[91]
Doug Edmeades, PhD., soil scientist, officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit.[92]
David Dilley, B.S. and M.S. in meteorology, CEO Global Weather Oscillations Inc. [198][199]
David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester.[93][94]
Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University.[95][96]
William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy; emeritus professor, Princeton University.[39][97]
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, Theoretical Physicist and Researcher, Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico.[98]
Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo.[99][100]
Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.[101][102]
William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology.[103][104]
David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware.[105][106]
Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri.[107][108]
Jennifer Marohasy, an Australian biologist, former director of the Australian Environment Foundation.[109][110]
Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa.[111][112]
Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.[113][114]
Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide.[115][116]
Arthur B. Robinson, American politician, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego.[117][118]
Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University and University of Colorado.[119][120]
Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University.[121][122][123]
Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo.[124][125]
Nedialko (Ned) T. Nikolov, PhD in Ecological Modelling, physical scientist for the U.S. Forest Service [200]
Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.[126][127]
Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia.[128][129][130][131]
Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.[132][133]
Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville.[134][135]
Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center.[136][137]
George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University.[138][139]
Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa.[140][141]
SCIENTISTS PUBLICLY QUESTIONING THE ACCURACY OF IPCC CLIMATE MODELS
Dr. Jarl R. Ahlbeck, chemical engineer at Abo Akademi University in Finland, former Greenpeace member. [203][204]
David Bellamy, botanist.[19][20][21][22]
Lennart Bengtsson, meteorologist, Reading University.[23][24]
Piers Corbyn, owner of the business WeatherAction which makes weather forecasts.[25][26]
Susan Crockford, Zoologist, adjunct professor in Anthropology at the University of Victoria. [27][28][29]
Judith Curry, professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.[30][31][32][33]
Joseph D’Aleo, past Chairman American Meteorological Society’s Committee on Weather Analysis and Forecasting, former Professor of Meteorology, Lyndon State College.[34][35][36][37]
Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society.[38][39]
Ivar Giaever, Norwegian–American physicist and Nobel laureate in physics (1973).[40]
Dr. Kiminori Itoh, Ph.D., Industrial Chemistry, University of Tokyo [202]
Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University.[41][42]
Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences.[39][43][44][45]
Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement.[46][47][48][49][50][51][52]
Sebastian Lüning, geologist, famed for his book The Cold Sun. [201]
Ross McKitrick, professor of economics and CBE chair in sustainable commerce, University of Guelph.[53][54]
Patrick Moore, former president of Greenpeace Canada.[55][56][57]
Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999–2003).[58][59]
Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian National University.[60][61]
Roger A. Pielke, Jr., professor of environmental studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado at Boulder.[62][63]
Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science.[64][65][66][67]
Harrison Schmitt, geologist, Apollo 17 astronaut, former US senator.[68][69]
Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm.[70][71]
Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London.[72][73]
Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute.[74][75]
Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor of atmospheric science at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.[76][77]
Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a doctorate in chemistry.[78][79]
Valentina Zharkova, professor in mathematics at Northumbria University. BSc/MSc in applied mathematics and astronomy, a Ph.D. in astrophysics.
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@peterebel7899 There are many factors involved in a country's "performance" . In Japan the low death rate has different explanations from the high death rate in the UK.
The relationship between Covid and malaria, for instance, is most interesting - with the countries with the most malaria all being way down on the list of covid deaths.
Japan was malarial until the 18th century until when the disease was wiped out by efficient marsh drainage.
The paper below gives a number of hypotheses to account for the huge differences in survival and infection rates between Europe and Asia and would certainly explain why the elderly in Japan have escaped, while the elderly of Europe have not.
Genetic differences as a result of responses to earlier epidemics seem highly significant.
"Several genes may be involved in the genetic predisposition to COVID-19, and the combination of multiple genes may be important for the severity of the infection. Among them, human leukocyte antigen (HLA) polymorphisms are associated with susceptibility to various diseases such as autoimmune diseases and infectious diseases. The composition ratio of HLA types varies greatly depending on the country and ethnic group. Since HLA is a protein of the immune system that is responsible for antigen presentation, HLA has been attracting attention in relation to disease susceptibility. Ellinghaus and colleagues performed GWAS on patients in Italy and Spain [17]. But, it was found that certain HLA types are unlikely to be associated with exacerbation of the novel coronavirus at least in Italy and Spain. Nevertheless, since HLA types, which are present only in Japan and other Asian countries, may show resistance to the novel coronavirus, further analysis is necessary."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7403102/
Japanese and east asian immune systems
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@petefrys545 The country called Ukraine, which indeed had periods of independence in the past, did not occupy the same land mass as the present Ukraine, which occupies the area of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine, created , as you say, by the Russian Bolsheviks. Even then that area was added to in subsequent years by Lenin, Stalin and Krushchev.
The Ukrainian National Republic was one of, I think, around three forms of government which laid claim to the territory during that troubled period following the Revolution. The Russians saw them all off making the area, as I say, Russian.
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@bonnie7898 I'm glad you know that Putin once wanted to join, as indeed did Gorbachev and Yeltsin before him. Perhaps you should ask yourself why they were so curtly refused.
NATO exists primarily as a job creation scheme for the military and to create a marketplace for arms manufacturers. Its members, predominantly America, have been involved in countless invasions and military interventions since its inception.
Despite assurances that it would not do so, it has expanded closer and closer to Russia's borders. Russia, by contrast, has shown no expansionist desires since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
It is clear that in equipping and training a large army in Ukraine, NATO wishes it to fall into the sphere of American influence. It is, in effect, already an American satellite and a member of NATO in all but name.
Ukraine's history and that of Russia are so closely intertwined that it can be said with some justification that Ukraine was created by Russia and maintained by the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union until the collapse of the latter. It is intolerable, in Russian eyes, that it should become an economic and military subject of an entity which very clearly sees itself as Russia's enemy. The American-engineered overthrow of the Ukrainian government in 2014 led Russia to take extreme measures, notably the annexation of Crimea (which is Russian to the core) and to support the existing separatist movements in the Donbass region, which is also predominantly Russian and fared much better under the control of Moscow than it has under that of Kiev.
We cannot know for certain what prompted the invasion of February this year, but it is probable that warmongers in Washington, emboldened by having succeeded in shoehorning their puppet into the White House, were planning to order their other puppet, Zelensky, to undertake an invasion of Crimea and to step up the existing war in Donbass, with further loss of civilian lives.
Such steps would be unacceptable blows to Russian prestige and geopolitical interests and so had to be pre-empted.
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@paxprix3096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FDGsXptbF0
1000 people voted twice in georgia
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-official-claims-1-000-people-illegally-voted-twice-in-primaries/ar-BB18PGvz?li=BB141NW3
Mail truck catches fire destroying thousands of ballots
https://amp.dailyrecord.com/amp/3257291001
200,000 ballots sent to wrong addresses in nevada
https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-08-10-more-than-200000-ballots-in-nevada-mailed-to-the-wrong-addresses/
Entire NJ election called a do over due to ballot fraud
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/paterson-press/2020/08/11/paterson-nj-election-rivals-agree-do-over-council-election/3343160001/
New jersey man votes 3 times
https://patch.com/new-hampshire/concord-nh/new-hampshire-man-arrested-vote-fraud-charge
Republican + 4 others charged in ballot fraud
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/kansas-republican-charged-with-three-felonies-in-voter-fraud-investigation/2020/07/14/7d0fe8c2-c629-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html
200,000 purged from rolls in New york
https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/politics/campaigns-elections/new-york-city-purged-voters-2016-it-wasnt-mistake.html
Deceased cat receives ballot
https://apnews.com/fbcec393dc652a9ccdb2cc8aacb15895
NY election disaster, over a month to count ballots , ballots lost or destroyed
https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yorks-mail-vote-disaster-11595286912
Man charged for voting in 3 elections using his dead mother
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-18/la-county-man-accused-of-voting-in-three-elections-as-his-dead-mother
10s of thousands of ballots thrown out
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tens-of-thousands-of-mail-ballots-have-been-tossed-out-in-this-years-primaries-what-will-happen-in-november/2020/07/16/fa5d7e96-c527-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html
100,000 ballots thrown out in California
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2020/0714/Why-California-threw-out-100-000-mail-in-primary-ballots
23,000 thrown out in Wisconsin
https://www.apmreports.org/story/2020/07/23/wisconsin-absentee-ballot-rejections
Thousands of ballots thrown out due to tardiness
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/13/889751095/signed-sealed-undelivered-thousands-of-mail-in-ballots-rejected-for-tardiness
Mail in ballot experiment fails with lost , late n damaged ballots
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-vote-by-mail-ballot-counted-election/
Woman arrested forging ballots
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plymouth-township-woman-charged-with-election-law-forgery-over-absentee-voter-ballot
As the new York times claims ballots are secure in 2020, in 2012 they wrote they were extremely open to fraud
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/us/politics/as-more-vote-by-mail-faulty-ballots-could-impact-elections.html
28,000,000 ballots lost in last 3 elections
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/24/28_million_mail-in_ballots_went_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html
Postal worker arrested for changing party affiliation on ballots
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/506869-postal-worker-pleads-guilty-to-election-fraud-after-changing
18,000 ballots not counted in Florida's primary
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/06/29/more-than-18000-mail-ballots-not-counted-in-floridas-march-presidential-preference-primary/
Thousands of ballots left on floor of building in North jersey
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/passaic/paterson/2020/08/14/paterson-nj-election-ballots-were-left-floor-post-office-says/5582951002/
Investigation as piles of mail found dumped in parking lot in california
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/515442-investigation-underway-after-bags-of-mail-found-dumped-in-los-angeles
1.6 million more voters than are registered in 19 california counties .. L.A county has 117% voter registration
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/07/five_states_face_federal_lawsuit_over_inaccurate_voter_registrations__142089.html
500,000 legit ballots in Virginia labelled with wrong return addresses
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/verify-wrong-mail-in-ballots-fairfax-virginia/65-94c4847c-63fb-4a93-bac5-9bb45df00a8d
Glitch sends duplicate ballots in Pittsburgh Allegheny county
https://www.wesa.fm/post/glitch-sends-duplicate-ballots-voters-system-prevents-double-voting-county-says#stream/0
Detroit elections where 72% of absentee votes do not match registered voters
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/20/benson-asked-investigate-detroit-perfect-storm-voting-problems/5616629002/
80,000 ballots disappeared in Baltimore
https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-voting-snafu-update-20180625-story.html
New York voting official warns people will use dead people to vote
https://www.newsweek.com/mail-voting-ballots-deceased-1531481
Michigan secretary misprinted military absentee ballots . 400 already issued
https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/09/president-trump-goes-after-michigan-secretary-of-state-again-over-ballot-misprint.html
Mail in ballots found in road ditch in Wisconsin
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/23/mailed-in-ballots-found-tossed-in-wisconsin-ditch/
4 officials arrested in ballot harvesting scheme
https://www.kltv.com/2020/09/24/gregg-county-commissioner-others-arrested-alleged-vote-harvesting-scheme/
9 military mail in ballots thrown in dumpster in PA
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/poconos-coal/fbi-psp-probing-9-discarded-ballots-in-luzerne-county/article_249405da-fea4-11ea-a8d7-b7faa419550f.html
134 felony voter fraud charges announced in Dem primary
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-attorney-general-ken-paxton-voter-fraud
New Yorkers receiving ballots with wrong names and addresses
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518682-new-yorkers-report-receiving-ballots-with-wrong-name-voter-addresses
Queens voters receiving military ballots
https://nypost.com/2020/09/28/nyc-voters-wrongly-getting-mail-in-ballots-marked-for-military-use/
Sun sentinel detailing Florida voting fraud
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-com-menge-mail-in-ballots-fraud-florida-20200416-hanmbneuendpbaftyktpactlga-story.html
Ballot harvesting scam exposed in Minneapolis
https://nypost.com/2020/09/29/minneapolis-police-probing-alleged-ballot-harvesting-claims/
1 in 4 election officials quit due to the new election law and chaos of mail in ballots
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/mail-ballot-law-pennsylvania-has-driven-out-nearly-quarter-state-n1240504
Texas Official arrested on felony election fraud charges
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-official-arrested-felony-election-fraud-charges-could-face-99-year-sentence-1534183
Patterson city council official arrested along with 4 others in ballot fraud scheme
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/paterson-city-council-vice-president-among-4-charged-with-voting-fraud-in-may-special-election-nj-ag/2484797/
Yes America! Plenty of voter fraud
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/yes-america-there-voter-fraud-these-recent-cases-prove-it
D.C voters receiving ballots for ex residents with some receiving up to 5 multiple ballots
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-voters-are-being-sent-mail-in-ballots-for-ex-residents
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@Peoples Republic of Ninj The evidence for Ukraine's potentially imminent acceptance into NATO I have given to you. Twice.
As for ethnic Russians, it is the fact that they are concentrated in particular areas which is important. Crimea is 65% Russian as opposed to 15% Ukrainian. Donbass is about 40% Russian. Both areas speak and use Russian as the prime language. The currency is the rouble. Both have suffered economic downturns following rule from Kiev. In Donbass wages fell by 80%.
After the Maidan rebellions of 2014 when Donetsk and Luhansk declared independence they were savagely attacked by Ukrainian armed forces, including self-declared Nazi militia, such as the Azov Battalion. Murder, rape and torture were employed as means of suppression, as clearly evidenced in reports by the UN, Human Rights Watch and others.
In addition, the then President, Poroshenko, declared it illegal to buy coal from Donbass. He then bought it up himself and sold it in Kiev, pretending it came from Mexico.
All these and other factors contributing to the background of the Russian invasion are easily verifiable by the use of your search engine, as is the previous information I have supplied.
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@verystripeyzebra As I said, it is really impossible to know the wishes of the people in a country like Ukraine, where everything is fixed, and known to be fixed. One thing we can be relatively sure of though is that it is a deeply divided country with, quite probably, the majority in the western areas wanting to enjoy the pleasures of EU membership, while the Russian heritage inhabitants of the Eastern provinces, very probably, would like to return to the bosom of Mother Russia. Their towns and villages have been extensively shelled by the Ukrainians over the past eight years, even though they voted to secede in a referendum.
Superficial parallels are dangerous when matching present day occurrences. I think. If at any time Putin looks as though his pan-Slavonic prejudices are matching Hitler's Aryan ideals, or that he is planning to exterminate large sections of the world's population, then we might have justifiable reason to intervene.
At the moment we are just watching a pimp beating up on his whore. Best to stay on the other side of the street unless you want to get hurt.
Unless of course you are another pimp, wanting to take her over.
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@verystripeyzebra Chechnya and Georgia were just about keeping them on side - which a great many of the inhabitants probably wanted. The same goes for Crimea and Donbass.
If Putin wants to regain the Russian Empire he has certainly waited a long time to set about it. He has dismissed the idea, naturally enough, but has given very cogent reasons for doing so. I think he just wants respect. The Americans have been pissing him about for years, and now the EU is getting in on the act. I think this is about drawing lines in the sand, that's all. Hope so anyway!
I agree that Hitler's attitude towards the Jews did not play a great part in the alliance against him, but it later provided more than sufficient justification for the actions taken. Were it not for the Holocaust one might argue that his initial advances were themselves justifiable, given the Versailles Treaty.
One can justify Putin's present gambit in much the same way, given NATO's unremitting eastward advance and the US efforts to suborn Ukraine into its sphere of influence. Putin is no Hitler though and the Russian army is no Wehrmacht so, fingers crossed, we will be relatively safe once he makes his point in Ukraine.
What will be will be though and if he does decide to go into the Baltic States or wherever he's only got Joe Biden and Ursula Von Der Leyden to stop him, which is scarcely a comforting thought.
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@chewieqtpie I don't fully understand you, but I believe we may be in closer agreement than you may think.
The Saudi regime is thoroughly obnoxious, but even though Bin Laden and several 911 participants were Saudi-born, the regime as such is keen not to be seen as promoting international terrorism. I believe the thinking in US intelligence has been that a Houthi victory in Yemen could lead to a terrorism-sponsoring state, such as existed in Afghanistan under the Taliban.
I do not believe for a moment, however, that the Biden administration's decision to cease support for the Saudis has been taken for humanitarian reasons. I do believe, however, that Trump's withdrawal of troops from Syria was simply a result of "job done" that is to say ISIS more or less wiped out. It is curious that the militias Biden is now bombing were allies in this endeavour.
It is a vastly complex issue and I can pretend to no expertise, but broadly speaking it strikes me that Trump's approach has been to concentrate upon reducing the threat of international terrorism, while allowing oil/gas conflicts to settle themselves as best they may with no particular objection to Russia's domination of gas supply networks to Europe which the Gulf-Med pipeline will undoubtedly undermine. Equally well he has taken a cynical businessman's view of the Iran nuclear deal which the Biden administration now seeks to re-establish.
The civil war in Yemen will continue unabated and the war in Syria will re-ignite as a consequence of the Biden administration's initiatives.
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Spitfire Hunter There is no reason to suppose pregnant women were targeted. The hospital was almost certainly being used as a base my Ukrainian militia and had been evacuated.
Dreadful accidents happen in wars.
This from Human Rights Watch:
"In one case, involving the use of cluster bombs in Nis (incident no. 48), the weapon employed was a decisive factor in the civilian deaths. Nis is one of seven confirmed and five likely incidents involving civilian deaths from cluster bomb use. Altogether, some ninety to 150 civilians died from cluster bomb use by the United States and Britain. In the case of the attack on the Nis airfield on May 7, the technical malfunction of the weapon points to the fact that cluster bombs should not be used in attacks in populated areas, let alone on urban targets, given the risks. After the Nis incident, there was a U.S. executive prohibition on further cluster bomb use.50 Nevertheless, British planes continued to drop cluster bombs, indicating the need for universal, not national, norms regarding cluster bomb use."
Some of the bombs hit the hospital at Nis
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Spitfire Hunter This from the Guardian, May 7, 1999 The operation at Nis was carried out by both the RAF and the Dutch air force.
I'm not trying to attribute blame - merely stating that these things happen in wars and to suggest that the Russians are deliberately targeting hospitals is pure propaganda. Why would they?
"Nato bombers yesterday dropped cluster bombs on a crowded outdoor market and a hospital in the southern Serbian city of Nis, killing at least 15 people and injuring many more, according to Yugoslav officials, independent media, and local residents.
'There is nothing military within a kilometre (half a mile) of it,' mayor Zoran Zivkovic told the Reuters news agency in Belgrade by telephone from the industrial city which has been repeatedly attacked by Nato planes.
'Cluster bombs hit the market, nearby buildings look like Swiss cheese... missiles hit a pathology ward, a parking lot and nearby buildings,' Mr Zivkovic was quoted as saying. 'I saw a dead man with a carrier bag with onions in it.'
Three people were reported killed in the hospital and three near it.
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@Think666_ The justification is a commercial one. Errors were made in drawing up post-Soviet boundaries and as long as these new "countries" continued to form close ties with Russia then things could jog along reasonably peaceably. Pressures from Western agencies, however, have affected this uneasy status quo and are probably the main, if not sole, cause of dissent leading to war.
In Ukraine these agencies have persuaded Kiev (guess how) to allow the possibility of considerable resources being transferred out of Russian hands, leading to a substantial reduction in Russia's income. This Russia will simply not put up with, and understandably so. Lines drawn on maps and treaties signed by drunkards amid the collapse of an empire do not counterbalance centuries of history and investment. Respecting these boundaries is easy enough if doing so brings you benefit - not so much if it takes the bread out of your mouth.
As to the opinions of the residents of these areas these are well-nigh impossible to ascertain. All one can say is that they are deeply divided, but in what proportion corruption and fear of reprisal make any accurate assessment extremely difficult to obtain.
I think one can say with some confidence, however, that almost anything would be better for these people than the agonies they are suffering over what is, as I say, a quarrel over the ownership of resources.
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@Think666_ The justification is a commercial one. Errors were made in drawing up post-Soviet boundaries and as long as these new countries continued to form close ties with Russia then things could jog along reasonably peaceably. Pressures from Western agencies, however, have affected this uneasy status quo and are probably the main, if not sole, cause of dissent leading to war.
In Ukraine these agencies have persuaded Kiev (guess how) to allow the possibility of considerable resources being transferred out of Russian hands, leading to a substantial reduction in Russia's income. This Russia will simply not put up with, and understandably so. Lines drawn on maps and treaties signed amid the collapse of an empire do not counterbalance centuries of history and investment. Respecting these boundaries is easy enough if doing so brings you benefit - not so much if it takes the bread out of your mouth.
As to the opinions of the residents of these areas these are well-nigh impossible to ascertain. All one can say is that they are deeply divided, but in what proportion corruption and fear of reprisal make any accurate assessment extremely difficult to obtain.
I think one can say with some confidence, however, that almost anything would be better for these people than the agonies they are suffering over what is, as I say, a quarrel over the ownership of resources.
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@Think666_ It still comes back to defining borders though, doesn't it? International law, like sovereignty, seems to me to be very much a pro-American construct, created after World War II. We are conditioned to believe these things are holy writ, but in reality they are not.
As to Minsk, while both sides were possibly guilty of minor infringements, the main thrust of the Accords was for Ukraine to pursue ways of granting regional autonomy to Donbass. This they clearly did not do - which is a great pity because it is now becoming apparent that Russia will probably obtain more control than it asked for then and, tragically, tens of thousands of people will have died to no purpose.
I repeat: the Ukraine on the map is not a real country, much less a sovereign one (whatever that means). This is at the root of the problem.
Similar constraints apply to Georgia. The Soviet Union altered the map and it is paradoxically that in accepting these alterations - and indeed attempting to enforce them - the Western world has laid itself open to a whole heap of trouble.
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All well and good, but I still remain a heretic. As I've said, I'm not a scientist, so cannot argue the technicalities. I see that others can and I assume you believe the criticisms in the comments section to this article have been dismissed. I cannot possibly judge
I need others to argue my corner; specialists such as the Connollys, Dad Michael is a spectroscopist (among many other things) and insists the balloon study utterly disproves current theories regarding the behaviour of carbon in the atmosphere
Once again I am in danger of misrepresenting their case and can only clumsily put forward a version of what it appears to me may have happened.
The models of the atmosphere used in laboratory experiments are inadequate in many important respects. The real thing is different to the models and behaves differently to how it should. Thus all conclusions based upon the models are brought into question.
Current temperature rises are entirely in accord with historical cyclic patterns based upon solar forcing, cosmic ray and solar wind interaction and the behaviour of the oceans.
Scientists have conflated temperature rise with carbon level increases and are constantly bending the evidence to turn this coincidence into cause and effect.
This coincidence had been seized upon by political and financial players to create a scenario whereby money is made through giving carbon emissions a scarcity value. Carbon, in the form of diamonds, is given an artificial scarcity value and so is carbon in the form of fossil fuel emissions. Al Gore is one of several key players who realised the possibilities of trading in this new currency and has made an immense fortune from it, as have others, and they continue to do so. Politicians also love AGW because of the attractions of carbon taxation and the possibilities of controlling behaviour through fear. All three of these scenarios are already in place.
I come at this problem from the bottom up, if you see what I mean. I can't do the science, but when I come across people who can, and who reject carbon as a prime forcer of climate, then I just love 'em!
So, I beg you, if you want to argue the science, go to them. Their work is ever-open to debate and criticism.
There's is a somewhat interesting story,incidentally. They are both very left wing (Ronan especially) and are ecologists by trade, designing and manufacturing eco-friendly structures. They began their study rather expecting to find it would confirm AGW and are somewhat wryly miffed to discover it did not.
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I'm suggesting no such thing. The carbon-based AGW theory is as good as any other. It wasn't scientists who saw the potential for its exploitation, but financiers. Al Gore is just a relatively minor example of the sort of con artist versed in the arts of manipulation who can use a few apparent inconvenient truths to sweet talk his way to billions.
As I think I've explained, the trick was to give industrial waste carbon a scarcity value, just as its prettier sister diamonds have been given a scarcity value. I'm sure that back in 1968 when all this began people were well aware of the fact that fossil fuels are going to run out some time and that there would be pressure to find replacements. Balancing the conflict between these pressures emerged as a source of much, much wealth.
In your studies of AGW, how much to you take as irrefutable simply because you have been instructed that it is so, and because experiments you have taken part in make it appear to be the case?
The falsifying of data is carried out not with evil intent, but because it seems an imperative to confirm something you KNOW to be true. Various psychological phenomena come into play at this point:cognitive bias, attentional bias, loss aversion and groupthink for example. This is the usual procedure when good decent people get caught up in a cult. Disbelieving its tenets becomes a psychological impossibility.
Meanwhile, while you draw your modest salaries, the guys behind this magnificent scam are creaming billions from your efforts.
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The solar system is a complex organism the nature of which we are just dimly beginning to understand.
"Climate scientists" are mental dwarves, strutting in puddles of their own conceit. They have no apparent understanding of the vastness of time, nor any awareness of the incomprehensible forces of gravity, magnetism and plasma waves which suffuse our little corner of the universe.
Burning coal? Farting cows?
Laughable irrelevancies in the great scheme of things.
The sun is a great deal more than the visible yellow thing we see in the sky. Jupiter and Saturn, as distant as they are, extend their influence throughout the solar system.
The climate of the earth is totally dependent upon a combination of these factors, balanced by atmospheric pressure.
The earth's atmosphere is, and must, tend towards thermodynamic stability, as posited by Einstein as long ago as 1917.
If it were otherwise our planet would have become as inimical to organic life as Venus and Mars long, long ago.
The petty increase in atmospheric carbon created by the burning of fossil fuels will be readily absorbed in a system which has evolved to maintain this stability.
Atmospheric carbon disseminates infra-red photons. It neither retains nor inevitably reflects them back to the earth's surface.
The greenhouse effect is a total misnomer.
It's not glass up there. It's a thermostat.
Enjoy your crayons.
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@nigelsynnott7344 There are no immediate short term benefits from Brexit, as currently applied, that I can readily see.
This does not mean, however, that in principle, separation from a European federation is not a good, if not essential, long-term strategy for the long-term benefit of this country.
The EU is an artificial construct and will inevitably collapse. Before it does so it will create enormous geopolitical damage, as already evidenced by its role in promoting the war in Ukraine.
We need MORE Brexit, not less. We should cut all but the most basic ties of mutual economic benefit, including leaving the ECCR and other pan-European bodies, and hopefully NATO too if accommodations can be reached with the US and Russia.
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@operationgoldfish8331
1) It is not your individual perception of what EU membership means which counts. If is that of the mass of the working class. To many the mathematics are simple: if people are allowed to enter from foreign countries who will work more cheaply than they do then their wages will become static, or may even be reduced -as has happened in your personal case, apparently. Nazis do not enter into the equation. Tony Blair must be a Nazi according to your equation though, since he threw open the doors to immigration. According to your logic multiculturalism is part of Nazi plot to devitalise the working class.
2) What exactly is this "crap" you are talking about? Are you suggesting a reduction in the number of people from Commonwealth countries who are allowed to work here? That might be a good idea or it might not, but it is a question which does not involve the EU in any way.
3)A visceral fear of foreigners is one thing. A fear of what they might DO to you is another. As stated above, the working class fear if immigration is just that: a fear of immigration NOT of the actual people who are immigrating. Britons are generally very welcoming towards foreigners as individuals once they are here. (Far more so than Ukrainians as it happens.)
4) A EU army? Every step the EU has taken has been towards forming a federal state. I am assured by some Europhiles that my misgivings are unfounded, because political unification has always been the aim. And it clearly has.
5)The economic effects of withdrawal from the EU seem to have been greatly exaggerated. We expected a bumpy ride and we're getting it -but that's all. The poor are always with us but their number has not increased or its severity become more pronounced as a result of withdrawing from Europe.
6) We are not part if Europe. Europe does not exist, other than as a geographical convenience. The idea that fiendish Putin deliberately weakened the EU by creating Brexit with the aid of Farage in order to weaken the EU so he could invade Ukraine made me laugh out loud. Just think what you're saying! Putin invaded Ukraine mainly because he was justifiably concerned that it would join the other 13 countries which have joined NATO since 1990 and be militarised against Russia, but part of his concerns are that EU membership would adversely effect long-standing economic ties between the two countries.
7) Ukraine is not a "free nation". Like Russia it is a kleptocracy run by gangsters, many of whom are in the pockets of American imperialists. About a sixth of the country has been involved for eight years in a bloody civil war because the people there are Russian and want to secede. Bribery will get you whatever results you want in any election. Zelensky has closed down three TV stations which broadcast against him and imprisoned the leaders if the opposition. Sound like a free country to you?
8) Get rid of the Tories and what do you get? A few years of chaos as idealistic virtue signallers quarrel over which of them is the better person, that's what. I would dearly love to see the Tories replaced by an intelligent, committed Labour Party. But such a thing does not exist
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@dsutherlarach I will, if I may, refer you to my answer to Operation Goldfish elsewhere in this thread which I think covers most of the points you make.
I am, as it happens, a reluctant supporter of Brexit since the economic advantages of membership may well outweigh the disadvantages. I simply do not know.
What I do know, however, is that its political ambitions will inevitably lead to war, as has indeed proved to be the case. As you correctly point out, Johnson is joining in with all the sabre-rattling along with all the other fools, but I will not do so and I can only hope there are sufficient men and women of good sense among our politicians to do the same. So far only a small Labour contingent has come forward, but I am sure there are many Conservatives who feel the same way.
We are innocent abroad, I'm afraid, when it comes to meddling in the politics of distant lands.
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@operationgoldfish8331 Oddly enough I find myself in agreement with much of what you say. I hold no truck with the present government and, as I think I have already said, I would dearly love to see Labour resume its traditional role of keeping the worse Tory hyenas out of things as far as possible.
You seem to agree that unrestricted immigration has an effect on wage levels, yet in practically the same breath you say your own reduced circumstances are due to "austerity." Surely the government can only keep public sector wages low by ensuring a supply of cheap foreign labour?
I also agree with you that playing the immigration card so heavily was tactical, but given the facts as we know them, has it no relevance?
In any case this does not enter into my own assessment as my concerns are and always have been geopolitical. and this rather tends to put the economic and labour-relations aspects of EU membership in the shade.
As you can imagine I have many arguments with Europhiles and you do seem to be quite sharply divided on the question of federalist intent.
To my mind the battle has been fought, in the public arena at least, pretty much exclusively on economic issues. There are those, like you, who seem to say that this so, and that the EU is purely a trading bloc. Others insist that political unity has been the intention from the word go. I have to say that the latter view seems to be prevailing at the moment and it certainly conforms with the organisational structure of the EU. To put it simply I do not wish my grocer to dictate how I run my private affairs, and even if this means dearer groceries, then that's how it has to be. I especially don't want to be expected to don a tin hat and pick up my gun because my grocer wants to expand into another town and is being prevented from doing so.
The "we" who were expecting a bumpy ride are those of us who realised that the EU would not let us go willingly, and would place every economic obstacle inn our path. Brexit is a long-term project and if it has been sold to the public as a quick fix -well that's politics.
As far as I'm concerned the Council of Europe and the European Declaration of Human Rights can go hang. If the stench of war drifts across the channel Britain has no obligation to respond.
Comparing GB with Ukraine is absurd. Ukraine is a sovereign nation on paper only. At least a sixth of it wants to break away and join Russia, All elections and referenda are fixed and the current President has jailed the opposition leaders and closed down TV stations which dare speak out against him. He is a puppet of the CIA in a far more realistic sense than the Tories are puppets of Putin.
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@Liz_for_PM_again 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 as opposed to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 is still quite a lot.
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@rocketscience4516 And if course it is entirely co-incidental that, until it was discovered there and moved out quickly, Dominion's world HQ, in Toronto, was in a Soros-owned building the other tenants of which were all Soros--affiliated left-wing and environmentalist pressure groups?
George Soros is a genius. I love him to death. Have you read "The Alchemy of Finance"? What a book! It really gives the game away.
He's backtracked since then, obviously realising that his ego had got the better of him, but the evidence of reflexivity, feedback loops and all the rest of it are very evident in the world today. You yourself and your conditioned responses are evidence of it. You are no more than a fish in a bowl, twitching when a low electric charge is applied to its environment.
There is, of course "no significant evidence" that you actually exist, so there's no need to worry too much.
"Corporate ties." Jesus!
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@brianperry The presenters are generally not better informed they are just trained to humiliate the less articulate.
By coincidence someone has just posted a very sensible and detailed analysis of the present situation on this very thread.
If you would like to be better informed I suggest you take time to read it.
Mark Edwards
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Wow !!! I am very sorry Phil but this is terrible.
You sound like someone who has just spent the last 24 hours sat in front of MSM soaking it all up. In the spirit of unbias media, I must dissect your video point by point.
1) Putin's Coup in Ukraine has been very softly, softly, due to international condemnation. You clearly are quite ignorant about Russia's military power. If NATO confronted Russia conventionally, it would not be a clear cut outcome. That is against the combined might of USA, UK, France, Italy, Germany, and all other members. Why do you think NATO are shrinking away from defending Ukraine? Because they are nice guys and don't want to hurt Russia? Because they are good people and don't want to contravene UN rules? The fact that western media, including A Different Bias, is portraying Russia as weak, is going to be devastating for Ukraine. The softly softly approach will end. And you will eat your words. I estimate 48 hours max now, before the full force of Russia descends on Kiev.
2) You seem to be completely unaware, that this all started in 2014, before which there was a democratic pro-Russian government in Ukraine, when a NATO backed Coup D'Etat took place in Ukraine, installing Poroshenko, and smaller neo-Nazi parties into government, who have since embarked on a massive programme of privatisation in Ukraine, which has been sold off piece by piece to foreign interests. What do you think people like Hunter Biden, and London based oligarchs were all doing in Ukraine at the time? Having a nice little holiday? Read up on it and educate yourself before you get on your soap box. Just like in the UK, the huge majority of Ukrainians have been impoverished by these capitalist policies. In Ukraine today, there are approximately 10 million people (middle class) who have done well out of selling the country off. Mostly around Kiev. But there are 30 million who most certainly have not. These people remain pro-Russian.
3) Germany. Following the tragedy that was World War 2, Germany was banned from operating a non defensive military, indefinitely. This policy was and continued to be, the reasoning behind the formation and remit of The United Nations. It was not a time based penalty. I can't believe a British man can sit on his channel, and basically be an apologist for World War 2 Nazi's. "Let's forget Germany's distant past" (in living memory !!!). And actually get excited about German remilitarisation. And incidentally, do you know the Russian human toll for ending World War 2? Britain tragically lost about 450,000 citizens and soldiers to the conflict. Russia? 24 million ! I cannot think of any one thing which will inflame the situation more, or incentivise Russian aggression more, bar dropping a bomb on Moscow. Germany did not "adopt a far less interventionist attitiude". They were banned from non defensive militarisation. And still are. To suggest otherwise is profoundly ignorant.
4) You seem to think that the Russian military is somehow impotent and will struggle to take Ukraine if they wished. That is horrendously dangerous propoganda. "They will struggle to take Ukraine, let alone an EU country." Here are some wake up facts for you Phil.
Russian battle tanks : 14,000 (est)
Ukraine battle tanks : 2,400 (est)
UK battle tanks : 227 (est)
USA Battle tanks : 7,300 (est)
Russian troops : 3,600,000
Ukraine troops : 400,000
UK troops : 110,000
USA troops : 2,200,000
Russian military aircraft : 3,900
Ukraine military aircraft : 207
UK military aircraft : 511
US military aircraft : 5,200
Russia nuclear missiles : 6,300
Ukraine nuclear missiles : 0
UK nuclear missiles : 225
USA nuclear missiles : 5,600
NATO exists for a reason !
5) Russia counteracting the aggressive expansion of NATO is "cobblers".
When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1990, the former Soviet Republics did not force Russia to to leave. Russia could have crushed any one of them with ease. (As with The British Empire). Russia effectively gave them their independance. The agreement with NATO (and I clearly remember this) is that NATO would not seek territory "one inch further". Here is a list of former Soviet Bloc countries that have been allowed to join NATO.
Albania
Bulgaria
Czech Republic
Slovak Republic
Slovenia
Croatia
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Hungary
Poland
Romania
and now proposed Ukraine.
And remember, this is all within just 30 years.
NATO has "militarised" every single one of those countries.
But of course, NATO military expansion is "cobblers".
But let's not stop there.
A list of Russian invasions, coups, and interventions since the break up of the Soviet Union.
Syria
Chechyna
Georgia
And by comparison, here is a list of invasions, coups, and interventions by NATO members since the break up of the Soviet Union.
Iraq (twice)
Rwanda
Yugoslavia
Nepal
Afghanistan
Liberia
Ethiopia
Guinea Bissau
Phillipines
Venezuela
Syria
Iran
Libya
Colombia
Haiti
Ukraine
Yemen
Palestine
I think aggressive is a comparative term.
I do not support Russia's attempted coup in Ukraine. But at least I understand it.
And I certainly am not a supporter of NATO and its horrendous belligerent exceptionalism.
Before we condemn Russia, and conduct hypocritical hand wringing over the few hundred Ukrainian casualties, maybe we should spare a thought for the over one million dead or maimed Iraqis. The estimated 500,000 dead Afghans, the complete destruction of Libya, the destruction of Palestinian people, the massacre of the Irish, the genocide in North America, or the continuing millions of starving families in Yemen.
That, I don't understand.
But let's not talk about that. Let's talk about Russia defending itself from a known aggressor on its border.
Disgraceful.
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@cog600 There does very much seem to be a change of attitude developing, however. What goes around comes around, as they say, and the factors which led to the general abandonment of the gold standard are no longer as pertinent as once they were.
As for China, reducing its dependency on these markets seems very much at the forefront of its strategies. Creating a new economic power bloc more powerful than the US/Europe/Japan axis is obviously very desirable for a number of reasons - and it is attainable. The weaponisation of gold seems to be a route towards this objective.
There is a theory that both China and Russia hold considerably greater stocks of gold than they have revealed, and that these, combined with the stocks of other BRICS + nations could exceed the stocks held by the US. If the new currency begins to be used in trade to any degree, and this disturbing claim is substantiated, then the effects on American and European economies could be catastrophic. As I said, linking the new currency to gold should be seen as an interim step designed to sap the dollar until the new currency can stand on its own feet, as it were.
I don't think anyone is laughing at Russia's gas and oil situation either. Some people might find it amusing that trucks all over the US and Europe are running in Russian oil processed into diesel in India, or even that Russian missiles raining down on Ukraine incorporate technology supplied by China in exchange for discounted oil.
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@victorianmelody46 Putin has made it abundantly clear that - however regretfully- Ukraine may turn its face to the West, with all this implies,
But it can't take Donbass and Crimea with it. The new country of Ukraine, created in 1991, suffers from a major disadvantage in that it is not a true country as such. The former Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine, the borders of which provide the footprint for the modern country, was a province of the Soviet Union and took the form it did not for ethnic or linguistic reasons but because it suited the SU (ie Russia) to fix these borders on purely administrative and logistical grounds.
The root of the problem lies in the fact that in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine many people still look to Moscow rather than Kiev as their real capital. They both have large Russian populations and Kiev has made the mistake of attempting to "de-Russianise" them.
Even more significantly they are sitting on literally trillions and trillion of dollarsworth of gas, coal, oil and rare earth minerals.
These resources have been exploited for centuries by Russian people financed by Russian investment.
If Ukraine were to join the EU, for example, this immense wealth would be diverted from Russia and Russia just won't have that.
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@memkiii The facts contradict your analysis. Putin must have been aware that Ukraine had a large army, supplied and trained by the USA and the UK. He must have been aware of his own army's weaknesses and failings. And why would he want Ukraine anyway? It would involve him in an expensive and long-lasting civil war. It would be like "swallowing a porcupine" as one commentator put it.
No. He just wants the Russian areas, namely Crimea and Donbass. Making people THINK he wanted the whole territory is just part of that strategy.
A considerable part of Ukraine's army has been destroyed, largely in lengthy conflict designed to thwart this false objective. Putin has sacrificed raw troops, outdated equipment and selected reserves, that's all. The real fighting is in the hands of elite corps and mercenaries, such as the Chechens, the Cossacks and the Wagner Group, plus battle hardened troops from the conflicts in Syria and in Donbass itself.
They are still fully operational. A whole army of experienced and well-armed and armoured Chechens is waiting in the wings, as well as a joint force of Belarussians and Russians in the north.
America started this war on the basis of lies, and continues to lie about it to the American people. Expand your research and you will see that this is so.
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@Sean Embry I think I broadly understand the rules of procedure in civil as opposed to criminal courts, but I still maintain that even with a far lesser burden of proof Rittenhouse has every chance of winning substantial damages from news outlets - if not from Joe Biden. The Nick Sandmann case is indicative of this. The real world is not the world CNN, MSNBC et al apparently believe it to be. Wearing a MAGA hat does not make you a fascist. Staring down an irritating native American does not make you a racist,
Equally well, shooting people who intend to do you harm is not murder. Talking to the Proud Boys, attending Trump rallies or making the OK sign don't make you a white supremacist either.
As for the drone footage, apparently no version, zoomed or not, in focus or not, does not suggest to the eyes of any reasonable person that Rittenhouse was to any degree provoking or challenging his assailants.
Even if this was the case it would not affect the fact that he is not guilty of murder. There is a remote possibility, I suppose, that a civil court might allow it to suggest this and so award damages to the families of the men he shot, but this seems unlikely.
It would be paradoxical if Rittenhouse gained compensation from those who have defamed him, and was then ordered to pay some of it to the families of the men he killed, but stranger things have happened!
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@timothyharris4708 Neither uncritically nor foolishly. As for gullible.. well, just look in the mirror.
As far as the "clown-show" is concerned I do not doubt you have seen only the edited highlights selected by the MSM to portray the various cases in the worst possible light. As I say, there are at least forty hours of testimony, much of it tedious and repetitive, but very, very revealing in places.
Edited highlights showing these are of course deleted by YouTube, as are videos showing Republican observers being harassed and shut out of counts. Whoops! Page unavailable. The cover-up is as evil as the crime.
You needn't wade through conspiracy theories to find some interesting items on HITE. The site is quite well curated at the moment, although subject to regular attack from the forces of evil. There are plenty of things to choose from.
I suppose, however, that you will remain locked in your little bubble, believing without question the crap dished out by the MSM. It doesn't matter. As I say, the 2020 election is now history and we can only hope that the forensic audits carried out in some states have, despite continuing obstacles placed in their path, derived sufficient information to enable at least some of the criminal techniques employed to be circumvented this year and in 2024.
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@timothyharris4708 No links. The YouTube algorithm is a tricky beast and I suspect that even mentioning certain items of hardware used in elections gets your post deleted. It happens in other areas too. Sickening really.
Yup. Diamond and Silk and all the other black American YouTubers who support Trump seem to me to give considerable refutation to the suggestion that Trump is a racist. The Democrats are scared to death of losing the black vote and so this is just one of the many accusations in the relentless campaign of vilification against him - accusations I myself believed for the first two years of his Presidency. My reasoned argument is that because Donald Trump has not risen through the usual messy political channels he owes nothing to anybody, and he has no skeletons in his cupboard, and despite the most absurd efforts to do so, none can be created. I get the impression that American Presidents are usually taken aside shortly after inauguration and told what they must do -or else.
There was no "or else" in Trump's case. As a property developer he was used to giving bribes -not taking them.
He is, of course, a man of many faults but he has one outstanding virtue -he is not a career politician. He is quite an ordinary person really. He has second son syndrome of course - like a number of English monarchs -and is under pressure to fill the shoes his elder brother was destined to wear. He is, in short, not a creature of the swamp as Biden is and Obama was. He is his own man, not a front man. and they don't like that.
One can add to these observations the further perception that the ceaseless and repetitive "Orange Man Bad" propaganda which continues to assail us is of very low quality, as these things go. Nothing stands up. All you get is school yard accusations of this and that. Nothingburgers, as the Americans say. In the end it defeats its own object -at least if you examine it long and carefully enough, as I have done and you obviously haven't.
So this is my serious process of thought - or vapid scribblings if you prefer. Conspiracy theories are rapidly becoming just conspiracies these days, but I don't suppose you've noticed.
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@funbarsolaris2822 We are somewhat at cross purposes. Left wing politics, as typified by Sanders and Corbyn, goes on its merry way entirely removed from reality- as it more or less always has been since the end of World War II at least. I am talking about academic neo- Marxism, largely developed in France and Germany in the 50s and 60s. This is of course entirely different to old school socialism, which has become rather stuck in a political backwater after brief earlier successes in the first half of the 20th century, and which has anyway generally backed away from Marxist principles.
By the time Reagan and Thatcher came along this form of socialism had fallen into stagnation - as all economic and political philosophies do. They require constant revision.
Capitalism has revised itself by taking on some Marxist precepts and Marxism has revised itself by accepting capitalism as an inevitable feature of human conduct. The result has been the New World Order and the Great Reset. Marxists can with a clear conscience accept the principle of economic growth through the manipulation of capital, as long as it is accompanied by what they perceive as an equitable distribution of benefits. Capitalists are grateful for the benefits of having a compliant workforce, and modern technology ensures that all proceedings can be closely monitored. Thus the elitist technocrat can enjoy the lifestyle to which he/she feels entitled, secure in the knowledge that the lives of his/her minions are reasonably comfortable and well ordered, and that all dissent can be met with withdrawal of privileges. Capital and labour are at one at last. We are all equal, but some are more equal than others.
Neither the small-time factory owner nor the Labourite shop steward have any place in this new arrangement. Both are defunct. No-one owns anything any more, in fact. Rational decisions as to the distribution of resources and means of production are taken according to principles generally embedded in computer programs and everyone is allocated goods and services appropriate to the contribution they make to the common weal.
You are somewhat nostalgic, I think, and nostalgia has no real place in this brave new world cooked up by the World Economic Forum and which is coming slowly but surely into existence even as we speak - or look with tearful eyes at old films of old struggles, now long past.
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Anthony Edo, "The Impact of Immigration on the Labor Market", Journal of Economic Surveys, Vol. 33 (2019), pp. 922-948.
Similar in content to the National Academies’ chapters, this review paper takes a more international perspective. After considering over 50 studies of immigration in developed countries, the author concludes that “immigration can create winners and losers among the native-born workers”. Because low-skill immigration tends to make low-skill natives the “losers” and high-skill natives the “winners”, rising inequality is a natural consequence. This conclusion stands in stark contrast to the advocates’ position that “there is no evidence that immigrants hurt any American workers”. While some Americans gain from immigration, others certainly do lose.
Joseph Price, Christian vom Lehn, and Riley Wilson, "The Winners and Losers of Immigration: Evidence from Linked Historical Data", NBER Working Paper Series, No. 27156 (2020). Updated 2023.
This paper acknowledges the winner-loser framework right in its title. The authors use genealogical data to track millions of men between decennial censuses in the early 20th century. Following these individuals allows the authors to improve upon past research that focused only on community-level impacts of immigration. They find that older and higher-skilled workers were the “winners” — their incomes tended to go up when immigrants entered their local labor market. By contrast, younger and less-skilled workers were the “losers” — they were more likely to move away and suffer income losses as a result of immigration. In the modern-day context, CIS has emphasized that immigration tends to have strong disemployment effects on the youngest and least-skilled Americans of all: teenagers.
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@jcspoon573 Hang on! I know what it is and obviously recognise its limitations, but it provides interesting food for thought, don't you think? And your analogy doesn't really bear much close examination, does it?
The fact is that countries and states which go for mandated 100% vaccination programmes will inevitably find themselves in situations whereby their localised epidemics will continue virtually forever. The relatively low success rate of the current vaccines and their short shelf life guarantee this.
On the other hand, populations in which there is a level of vaccination, but which also experience increasing long-term immunity in individuals via infection, will approach herd immunity threshold in a relatively ordered manner.
This is already being demonstrated - not only through this study but in real world terms.
All you have to do is compare current infection rates in low vaxxed states with those in high vaxxed states to see this.
States such as Texas and Florida, with low levels of vaccination and a resistance to mandates, experienced hard hits in the summer, but their infection rates are now dropping dramatically.
High vaxxed, high mandated states such as Vermont, while suffering fewer casualties in the past, continue to see a steady rise in cases or at least a very much slower rate of decline.
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@jcspoon573 As to your first point, resistance via infection leads to more or less total resistance to the first strain encountered and robust resistance to subsequent strains, leading to only mild symptoms. It is clear that this should be so, and what data we have indicates that this is, in fact, so.
Opportunities for mutation exist in all situations. The number of coronaviruses which have existed, and currently exist, is so vast that mutation becomes an utterly unpredictable event. Only by drastically reducing the number of potentially infectious people via immunity through infection can the likelihood or a new variant becoming predominant be reduced.
As to your last point, it can be said with some certainty that successful new strains which may occur will be those which are more transmissible, but less virulent, than preceding strains.
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@timothyharris4708
BRICS is an acronym for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. Goldman Sachs economist Jim O'Neill coined the term BRIC (without South Africa) in 2001, claiming that by 2050 the four BRIC economies would come to dominate the global economy by 2050. South Africa was added to the list in 2010.
(From Wikipedia.)
There are those who say that the rouble's continuing rise against the dollar, despite sanctions, is the result of artificial manipulation. This is undoubtedly true, but there is more to the story than that. Russia has accumulated vast quantities of gold in preparation for this invasion and its consequences. In addition while other BRICS countries, plus many others in the world, maybe playing both ends against the middle at the moment, I personally think there could be a major re-alignment of loyalties soon which will end the dominance of the dollar for good. America is falling. Afghanistan was an indicator of the collapse of its military might, and Ukraine may well be another blow as its proxy is forced to surrender.
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@timothyharris4708 Have my posts not been getting through?
I have copied and posted Jv's comments, and tried to send links to articles and videos. I have named John Bolton as one of several experts who have advanced the "feint" theory, and have cited historian David Starkey for an explanation of Lavrov's geopolitical thinking.
I do rather resent your accusations of dishonesty and evasiveness by the way.
However, here is brief extract from India Today of April 1, a direct link to which has definitely been blocked for some reason.
"Recent inveterate reports of Ukrainian counterattacks have only added to the innate temptation to give round one of the Russian invasion, to Ukraine. However, there is a counter-narrative that perceives a strategic accomplishment for Vladimir Putin in the first five weeks of the war."
A number of pro-Russian commentators I follow include James Lancaster (highly recommended. He is on the front line, whereas our brave Western reporters tend to turn up a day or two after the fighting has ended.) Plus iEarlGrey, Tim, Anonymous, Graham Phillips and Gonzalo Lira (who has recently been arrested by the Ukrainian secret police, but freed after waving his US passport.)
Of you have any further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact me.
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@Andrew-ob5ij Thank you for this explanation. I'm afraid I do find you quite hard to understand sometimes, but this post is more or less comprehensible. You make your position very clear and you are obviously well-informed.
I hope you will forgive me, but I have wondered if perhaps English is not your first language. Or is it that you are simply a product of America's broken education system?
Anyhow, I hear what you say and respect your opinions but I must repeat that I disagree with your interpretations of events and circumstances in most cases.
More to the point, I believe that the current wave of anti-Russian hysteria is extremely dangerous for world peace. There has been nothing like this degree if outrage when Putin has conducted similar operations in Chechnya and Georgia, and even protests against America's nefarious activities in Iraq and elsewhere have been muted in comparison.
My view, for what it's worth, is that we in the West had best let Russia and Ukraine sort this out between them. Essentially it is a border dispute of a kind that has affected the world throughout history. It is best not to meddle.
The best result will be a swift result, and that means a Russian victory. The alternative is a prolonged and bloody war.
If is possible that Putin may be overthrown. Indeed this whole thing could be part of a plot to achieve this, but I doubt both.
The acid test will be what happens when and if Russia wins. I very much hope that Putin will be satisfied if his demands are met: recognition of Georgia as part of the Russian Federation and removal of sanctions, recognition of the independence of the two Donbass republics and firm assurances that Ukraine will not join NATO.
If he continues to occupy Ukraine or attempts adventures elsewhere then you will be right and I will be wrong.
Peace.
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@edwardbernthal160 The UK is not in deep trouble. It is certainly experiencing more difficulties post Brexit than would have occurred with better planning, but everyone knew that the split would inevitably result in various short-term problems and indeed, many major adjustments of policy.
Brexit is a done deal. I didn't vote for it, as it happens, but now it is upon us we must make the best of it. Any economic disadvantages which may occur, either in the short, medium or long term, have to be balanced against the fact that a federal Europe, towards which the EU is remorselessly headed, is a very, very bad idea indeed in terms of geopolitics as a whole and particularly so for the UK.
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@michaeldunham3385 It is NATO's fault. America has its eye on Ukraine's vast mineral resources and has used its lackeys in a bid to get them.
As I explained, Russia had little choice but to launch a pre-emptive strike and Ukraine had little choice but to resist. The fault lies with the politicians and the oligarchs who allowed the situation to develop in the first place - prompted largely by personal greed, it has to be said.
And what on earth kind of threat is Russia presenting to NATO? It just wants it off its back porch, that's all.
Crimea and Eastern Ukraine were taken from the Turks by the Russian Empire back at the start of the the 18th century. The Russian Empire became the core of the Soviet Union and Ukraine became a semi-autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, ultimately subservient to Moscow. Eastern Ukraine was added on shortly afterwards and Crimea as recently as 1954 - both purely for reasons of administrative convenience. They are both more Russian than Ukrainian in most important respects.
There has always been a degree of friction between the two communities, changing in severity according to the march of history. Extreme Ukrainian nationalists now have a major influence and a process of "Ukrainianisation" has begun which increased these frictions.
To your final point, you must realise that this war has brought into sharp focus a major shift in the balance of world power which had begun at least ten years before Russia invaded. The object of the exercise is to halt American expansionism, of which the Ukraine adventure is the latest example. To this end Russia, China and a host of other countries including Iran, the Gulf States and most of Africa and South America are attempting to create a new joint currency to replace the dollar in world trade, or at least to weaken it considerably. As this process develops you will find that countries which are already supporting Russia covertly will come out into the open.
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@twmbwen1402 You are the victim of a series of myths.
Putin's first military act consisted merely of helping foment the rebellions in Donbass back in 2014.
Ukraine responded by sending in its army and Nazi paramilitaries to kill and torture separatists. NATO responded by financing, training and equipping a large professional army with the clear intention of using it to retake Donbass and Crimea.
As for Crimea, to describe it as an "invasion" scarcely fits the bill. Crimea is predominantly Russian and the "invaders" were generally met with open arms. The army joined the Russian army practically as one. Since the annexation Putin has pumped billions into the area, making up for the neglect it has suffered at the hands of various anti-Russian governments based in Kiev.
Crimea was only attached to Ukraine by the USSR as recently as 1954 for purely administrative and logistical reasons created by the Kerch Strait. Before that it had been Russian for more than 250 years. Before that it was Turkish.
It is another myth to suppose that the times of "empirical" expansion have died out. America is continually attempting to expand its empire. Russia is not attempting imperial expansion, it is merely trying to protect its long-term investment in Ukraine from the depravations of US expansion.
It is another myth to think of NATO as a purely defensive organisation. That is the sugar coating. It is, in fact, a cover for US aggrandisement, providing market places for the arms industry and the US military/industrial complex, as well as career opportunities for US general staff.
Another myth is the lack of free speech in Russia. You can say more or less what you like, but physical acts of defiance and actual plots to overthrow the government are treated very harshly. Russia is a very volatile country, and anarchy is always only a few firebrands away. I suggest you might think about accessing the many YouTubers vlogging from Russia, both native Russians and Westerners who have moved there and find it preferable to the increasing chaos and decadence of Western society.
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@stevesandgroper3241 Not only have you taken a quote out of context, but you have re-interpreted it to fit your own prejudices.
And you have re-interpreted it incorrectly. While I am sure that Putin would very much prefer for Ukraine to have the same relationship with Russia as Belarus he acknowledges this is no longer possible - but the Ukraine which becomes independent must be the Ukraine which existed before Russia created the Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine. This, I think, summarises his position more clearly.
"You want to establish a state of your own: you are welcome! But what are the terms? I will recall the assessment given by one of the most prominent political figures of new Russia, first mayor of Saint Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak. As a legal expert who believed that every decision must be legitimate, in 1992, he shared the following opinion: the republics that were founders of the Union, having denounced the 1922 Union Treaty, must return to the boundaries they had had before joining the Soviet Union. All other territorial acquisitions are subject to discussion, negotiations, given that the ground has been revoked.
In other words, when you leave, take what you brought with you. This logic is hard to refute. I will just say that the Bolsheviks had embarked on reshaping boundaries even before the Soviet Union, manipulating with territories to their liking, in disregard of people's views."
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@stevesandgroper3241 But what is meant by Ukraine? I'm sure Putin would very much prefer for Ukraine as a whole to enjoy the same relationship with Russia as Belarus - but he is not fighting this war to achieve this.
"You want to establish a state of your own: you are welcome! But what are the terms? I will recall the assessment given by one of the most prominent political figures of new Russia, first mayor of Saint Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak. As a legal expert who believed that every decision must be legitimate, in 1992, he shared the following opinion: the republics that were founders of the Union, having denounced the 1922 Union Treaty, must return to the boundaries they had had before joining the Soviet Union. All other territorial acquisitions are subject to discussion, negotiations, given that the ground has been revoked.
In other words, when you leave, take what you brought with you. This logic is hard to refute. I will just say that the Bolsheviks had embarked on reshaping boundaries even before the Soviet Union, manipulating with territories to their liking, in disregard of people's views."
From the same essay. He is telling Ukraine and the world that Russia keeps Crimea and Donbass.
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@stevesandgroper3241 Putin : "You want to establish a state of your own: you are welcome! But what are the terms? I will recall the assessment given by one of the most prominent political figures of new Russia, first mayor of Saint Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak. As a legal expert who believed that every decision must be legitimate, in 1992, he shared the following opinion: the republics that were founders of the Union, having denounced the 1922 Union Treaty, must return to the boundaries they had had before joining the Soviet Union. All other territorial acquisitions are subject to discussion, negotiations, given that the ground has been revoked.
In other words, when you leave, take what you brought with you. This logic is hard to refute. I will just say that the Bolsheviks had embarked on reshaping boundaries even before the Soviet Union, manipulating with territories to their liking, in disregard of people's views."
From the same essay. Translation: You can't have Crimea and Donbass.
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@stevesandgroper3241 Putin: "You want to establish a state of your own: you are welcome! But what are the terms? I will recall the assessment given by one of the most prominent political figures of new Russia, first mayor of Saint Petersburg Anatoly Sobchak. As a legal expert who believed that every decision must be legitimate, in 1992, he shared the following opinion: the republics that were founders of the Union, having denounced the 1922 Union Treaty, must return to the boundaries they had had before joining the Soviet Union. All other territorial acquisitions are subject to discussion, negotiations, given that the ground has been revoked.
In other words, when you leave, take what you brought with you. This logic is hard to refute. I will just say that the Bolsheviks had embarked on reshaping boundaries even before the Soviet Union, manipulating with territories to their liking, in disregard of people's views."
From the same essay.
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@johnh9449 Sorry, I didn't get the notification of your last two posts and have only just come across them by accident - and I am neither a troll nor am I embarrassed.
Your conclusion that long covid affects 1 in 5 people regardless of age is clearly wrong and that is what I was referring to.
The ONS figures are of course extrapolated from a simple unchecked survey involving 313,216 respondents. Given that probably it is mainly those who believe themselves to be suffering from long covid who are likely to respond the figures must be treated with care. The ONS itself draws attention to the drawbacks of this method:
"This analysis is based on self-reported long COVID. Self-reported measures are subjective and reflect systematic differences between socio-demographic groups in terms of their likelihood to report symptoms given an underlying level of severity, as well as differences in severity."
The ongoing survey being conducted by evidence-based medicine group ZOE paints a somewhat different picture.
Their results are based on 45,000+ screened participants and access to 1.2million anonymous GP records.
Not unexpectedly they find that long covid, as defined by life affecting debilitating symptoms, is experienced on a linear age pattern, as is the case with severe symptoms generally and deaths.
They find that 1.2% of patients in their 20's are suffering from the condition, rising to 4.8% in those of middle age.
As for your projected cases and deaths I'm not quite sure where you have got this from. Are you extrapolating yourself or has the ONS or some other body done it? It seems to be taking a great deal for granted to me. Simply because rates are doubling every nine days doesn't mean this will be a consistent curve -although of course it may well be.
In the week ending June 7 there were 46,825 confirmed cases in the UK. Three weeks later, on the week ending June 28 there were 118 deaths. If one were to crudely assume that most (although not all) of these deaths had occurred from among those 46,825 cases ( allowing time for the infection to develop and the patient to die) this would give a death to case ratio of around .25%.
Assuming 100,000 cases a day, as gloomily predicted, this would lead to 250 people dying on the day three weeks following.
Once again though these relationships may change drastically in a short period of time.
If I have got this all wrong please feel free to tell me - I may be embarrassed, but I will be grateful for any correction!
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@johnh9449 I have no time for Johnson either, but a manslaughter charge is pushing it. He's no scientist and has been saddled with a bunch of advisors some of whom are pretty suspect, to say the least. I don't think SAGE had a single epidemiologist in its ranks at the start. They are a odd bunch of placemen, computer geeks and communists, most connected to Imperial College in one way or another and have never represented a broad swathe of opinion.
Dithering has certainly been the problem but attributing 100,000 deaths to it is in no way reasonable. You're the mathematician, not me, but the curves seem to go their own sweet way and I can see no direct impact from either lockdowns or masking mandates. The number of viruses is so huge that as long as someone is within reach to be infected they are going to be infected and if they are weak enough they are going to die. Trying to hold the tide back only has a slowing down effect as far as I can see, with no long term effect on casualties. Things may even be made worse since delays give new variants time to take a hold.
The UK had a large population of very elderly people standing by due to very mild flu seasons, and it has been they who have caught it. The largest single category of deceased has been males over 90 I believe.
I suppose I am one of your swivel-eyed loons. The dreadful effects of lockdowns, both at home and in the Third World, far, far outweigh the possibility that they might have given a number of very old people a few more months of existence. More children and young people in Africa and elsewhere are dying or are going to die due to malnutrition, TB, malaria and so on than the unknown quantity of British OAPs who will be spared to sit looking at TV while attended by strangers for a year or two more.
No, not a good deal in the general order of things.
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Matthew Hackett
I was much taken with your idea that I should visit the Marshall Islands so I looked up the tourist board site.
It looks to be quite a wonderful place for those who like that sort of thing, with no signs of any loss of land due to increased sea levels. The pictures show some hotels very close to the beaches.
I think I'd prefer the Mississippi Delta for my visit. Here there has been considerable land loss, but apparently it is due to the unintelligent construction of levees, resulting in the prevention of the historical build up of sediment flowing down ole man river.
mississippiriverdelta.org-coastal-crisis/land-loss
Information on Category 5 hurricanes seems to show that, like the rest of us, they have their ups and downs, good years and bad years. The only major blip, as far as I can tell, was that a considerable number occurred some 15 years ago. There were none at all between 2008 and 2015. One presumes hurricanes existed for many, many thousands of years before we arrived on the scene to catagorise them so their behaviour over the past 100 years can have no statistical relevance.
Once again, no proof of AGW in the real world of experience. What can be going wrong?
(What on earth were you doing studying this stuff in 1978, by the way? You must be nearly as old as I am - in which case you should know better.)
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@appstratum9747 Despite all this, Crimea has only a very tenuous relationship with modern Ukraine. As for elections and referendums, you must know as well as I do that such niceties are irrelevant in countries as corrupt as Ukraine and Russia.
If Ukraine conducts them, Ukraine wins. If Russia conducts them, Russia wins.
As for population, the same reservations must apply. All one can say is that between 60% and 70% identify as Russian, depending upon who is in charge at the time of the census. Ukrainians come second and Tatars and the rest come third - though not by much.
I defend my use of the blanket term "Turks" to cover previous ownership of the land - but in any case all of this history is scarcely relevant to the present problems.
The situation as it stands now is that the government in Kiev has been seduced into turning the nation's resources over to Western agencies. This Russia cannot be expected to allow. It needs Sebastopol as a base for its fleet. It feels entitled to continue to be the channel through which the immense mineral resources of Crimea and Donbass flow. It cannot permit Ukraine to be an armed outpost of a declared enemy - NATO. These concerns are entirely reasonable and must be addressed.
Putin has made sincere attempts to do so. In his essay on Russian/Ukrainian relations published in the summer of 2021 he makes his position clear. His peace proposals of December of that year provide a realistic compromise and if they had been heeded this dreadful war would not be taking place.
Indeed, there are strong indications that Ukraine was prepared to do so, but agents of the West persuaded otherwise - simply because the US and Europe still has its eyes on the estimated $13trillion of gas, oil, coal, steel and rare earth minerals in Crimea and Donbass.
The horrible truth is that the nationality of the inert materials lying beneath the ground is far, far more important in the overall scheme of things than the nationality of the people walking about on top of it.
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CRIPPLED BEEF He was asking a question, not making a suggestion. The speaker before him, a Homeland Security official has used military speak, saying "inject" not in the sense of sticking a needle in your arm but in the same way I might say I'm injecting a little common sense into this conversation. He also used the term "disinfect" in the sense that army people say they are going to "disinfect" an area of enemy personnel.
This confused Trump, who asked for clarification in a somewhat inept way.
A bit of clever editing and the myth is born that he was promoting injecting or drinking bleach and disinfectant
Of course he wasn't, but all's fair in love, war and politics I suppose.
Irradiation by ultra-violet can destroy some bacteria by the way, but not coronavirus alas.
What CAN destroy coronavirus however, or at least prevent the little buggers from reproducing, in our old friend hydroxychloroquine. Trump was right about that. A recent clinical study of over 8,000 patients in Belgium has shown it reduces death rates by almost a third. Just so you know.
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@alanbellas513 Your analysis is somewhat emotional and partisan. The West's economic measures against Russia are not only proving to be largely ineffectual, they are backfiring.
No-one is doing well out of this, but Russia is doing no worse than anyone else. In fact, taking the long view, it could well be on its way to helping construct a whole new distribution of power in the world which will leave the American, dollar-based bloc floundering. China and India, along with dozens of other developing economies, are keen to free themselves from American hegemony and this war could well provide the opportunity.
Putin, far from being mad, is eminently sane and although he has taken a gamble, America's constant attempts to belittle and undermine his country have left him with little option. Furthermore it is clear that he has preparing for something like this for years. Companies have been set up all over the world to provide undercover access to materials officially sanctioned. Other companies within Russia have immediately sprung up to provide local, ersatz versions of Western products. And we're not just talking MacDonalds and Starbucks. Factories are producing matching spare parts for all kinds of Western machinery. They are very expensive at the moment, but they are there.
If this is the final battle between Russia and America there is every chance that Russia will win.
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