Comments by "Shorewall" (@shorewall) on "The Future of Europe." video.
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I agree, except what is the unifying vision of the EU? For the USA, the unifying vision was created after a war of Independence by the Founding Fathers who were idealists visionaries. As it expanded, each state was born fresh in a way, as a new baby state, as part of the US. So the states have rights, but they are also creations of the USA, its children, or more like its fingers and toes.
Whereas the European Nations are adults already, with their own ideas and myths. Allying or trading together is one thing. But how do they align without consensus? How do they make hard decisions? What vision leads out? The US had a Civil War where the North did not allow the South to seceede. Will the EU fight a war to keep countries from leaving the EU? Western Europe fighting against Eastern Europe, for example?
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Not only that, but modern pizza, Taco Bell, Chow Mein, a lot of so called ethnic foods are really created by immigrants to America, and then exported to the world.
You can go to the USA and make something new. American culture is Pizza, is Chinese Food, takes the best from all cultures.
American Culture steals, which is why it assimilates. Other cultures aren't overwritten or destroyed, they are assimilated and join in, making a stronger whole. Which is why it is so successful.
Compare to Russification, where the Russian Empire tried to force conquered peoples to only speak Russian and convert religion. Now their neighbors want nothing to do with them and try to stay away.
America says bring your culture, and add it to ours. Which is why America's destiny is to take over the world. The only ones who could rival us are joining us. Who would fight us, when we don't want to destroy you, we don't want anything from you. We just want to be friends and get along.
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@dave_sic1365 Really, the problem is with the Marxist subverters in University. I remember being told that everything bad in the world is the fault of White Men, specifically Europeans, to the point that I started getting depressed. I eventually had to throw off the shackles, and I only went for my two year degree.
Most of what we see in the west is the result of brainwashing in the Universities. Young people are taught a Marxist Conflict Theory of history, and try to atone for it. It started in the 60s, and only now is starting to die out in the younger generations, and only because the world is not going well enough for such lies to be comfortable anymore.
I really agree with this channel putting Social Justice as a religion, but its been around for a while. It's the Marxist professors teaching the kids to regret being born, and hate their race. Some people grow out of it, some never do, but Western Society is sick from that Marxist disease, even as the 3rd world has benefitted from Western inventions and methods in the Post War period.
I think times are going to get worse before they get better, but as a result, the lies are gonna be seen for what they are, and people are going to turn to common sense answers to the crisis of our time.
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I think that hits true, except that the world stands still for no one. Africa and Middle East are growing and overpopulated and poor. When Globalism dies, which is happening right now, those 3rd world countries will starve. And they will try to migrate to Europe, which will destroy Europe as we know it. Just like the Migration period after the fall of the Roman Empire.
And as its happening, each European Country will burn with unrest and violence. Europeans who don't want to stand by, immigrants who don't fit in, 3rd world mentalities crashing into 1st world mentalities, Technocrats trying to hold onto power, and new leaders who are willing to try something new when the old ways are dying.
It doesn't matter what Europeans want. They will either die in a firey train wreck, smothered under a 3rd world tide, or they will find their balls again and fight for their survival. It's one thing to live out your days peacefully in the retirement home, it's another thing when the zombies come breaking down the doors and windows to kill everyone inside.
And with whatever comes in that aftermath, the USA, in its isolation, will gain leverage to pick winners and losers. So those who come out on top, will cosy up to the USA, weakened, but still alive. It will be a new order.
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Peter Zeihan talks a lot about it, and it is basically a result of industrialization and Urbanization. In the old days, children were an asset, manpower. In the modern age, children are an expense. You want to get them the best stuff, healthcare, education, all of which cost. Plus women having more choices instead of staying at home having kids.
So birth rates plummet, but at the same time people were living longer so it masked the decline. But now we are coming to the crisis point where old people are retiring without the younger people to make up the numbers. And this is happening all over the world, even in 3rd world countries, China, Mexico, etc. Some are worse than others.
I think the longer forecast is that eventually this can turn around, but the real problem is that countries will not be able to maintain their economies and current pension setups, so things will revert to semi-pre-industrial levels. Standards of living will go down, and that will cause stress and conflict, which makes it harder to fix things.
I recommend Peter Zeihan's books, which go over a lot of this. He just came out with a new book, The End of the World is Just the Beginning. It was pretty depressing. :D
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I completely agree. We are going to see the USA become something new rather than fall. The US is not overstretched like the Roman Empire was when it fell. The US is currently ready, willing, and able to pull back from its global commitments, which the Roman Empire wouldn't or couldn't do.
It reminds me of the video game Total War: Atilla, which is set at the end of the Western Roman Empire. One of the best strategies to survive as the Western Roman Empire is to abandon the far reaches of the empire that are underperforming, pull back to core territory, and rebuild your strength, before expanding again.
The US is self sufficient, so it doesn't have to keep a tight grip on the rest of the world. It can turn inward and become isolationist, while the rest of the world really can't. And when the US is ready, it will turn back to the world stage, usually after their rivals are done beating each other up.
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I take Peter Zeihan's idea, that the USA gave up its own economic growth, to basically bribe the rest of the world into an alliance against the USSR. Since the end of the Cold War, and I would say since 9/11, which kinda popped the bubble of the Post Cold War good feelings, Americans are frustrated with endless wars, with China selling us cheap shit and then using that to try to overtake us, and yet in the USA, we don't feel like the system is working for us.
So I think the American people are tired of being world police man, with little benefit seen by the average joe (the corpos see all the profit). And while the elites love the current system, that is why you see the conflict in US politics, where the people want leaders who will put America first for a change, which will lead to more isolationism. I would say that is why people voted for Trump, and Zeihan even says that Biden, who ran as the Anti-Trump, and even Obama to a certain extent, were already moving in this direction. It's a large scale political shift, and it will be a while before the USA deals with its internal problems and even wants to look outward.
The American People don't really hate anyone, but they also don't see the world as their problem. And since the world is globally connected, that means that the current order that has been built since the Post War, is going to suffer the removal of the USA for a bit.
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It is interesting to think about what comes after the Demographic crisis. I mean, history won't just end. But the truth is that in order to have a nation, a state, you must have enough of a people to do so.
The USA is in a good place because anyone can become an American, and the American Identity is strong. Take East Asians and Hispanics who are assimilating as this video mentioned. That keeps the American "bloodline" strong, so to speak. Even Europeans can become American.
But the USA was started as an ideal creation, whereas European nations were created as ethnostates. France for the French, Germany for the Germans. The names even reflect this. England, land of the English; Scotland, land of the Scots; Denmark, land of the Danes; etc. It is harder to accept foreign people and assimilate them, when you never had to do that before. They don't have a universal ideal and vigor that could assimilate the new immigrants. So it backfired.
And with Africa and the Middle East growing with young populations, and the coming end of globalism putting the hurt on those same areas, there will be a massive wave of immigration from those areas to Europe. But I think Europeans are tired of it by now. The truth is that Europe would be destroyed by the influx, but the alternative is an Iron curtain over the Mediterranean, that I wonder if the EU and its nations have the stomach for. But if they don't act, Europe will seethe and burn.
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