Comments by "Shorewall" (@shorewall) on "Explaining America's Nine Nations part 2" video.

Yeah, that section was a rapid fire of stereotypes. I think people don't think they will be balanced if they just talk to a Mormon to find out what we believe and our history. It's funny because I like that about these videos, that he is a bit irreverant and off the cuff, but it's gives you pause when he is really wrong on a topic you know well. Although it is true to what I've experienced in my life. People want to believe the worst about Mormon ideology and history, and I think it's because then they don't have to act. They don't want to believe that Mormons are vitalized, global, prosperous, and yet traditional, family oriented, Christian. They say we are good hard working people, and then deride or ignore our deeply held beliefs that are the reason we are that way. I think most people have no clue, and like it that way. :D I'm glad to see the return of traditional values for a lot of the younger generation, but we Mormons have been here the whole time, holding it down and taking heat for the team. We actually held to our traditional principles, whereas now the Millenial Generation are just discovering theirs.
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Yep. I grew up in L.A. and was used to that, so when we moved to Utah, I was worried when I saw cow pastures and such. But now I love it so much that I even want to move to a more rural area. :D I don't want anyone to tell me what to do, and I don't want to tell anyone else what to do. And as long as I have the internet and nature, I have all the stimulation I need.
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I have heard anecdotal evidence, but mostly as a, kind of a shame kinda thing. My mom didn't really care if we learned spanish, although we picked some up, because my dad was anglo and didn't speak spanish. We just spoke english. My grandma only spoke spanish, and I had some cousins come to live with us who spoke spanish, so that is how I picked some up. I still think I can learn it if I was immersed, but it never really mattered in my life. :D
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Yeah, the people who get up and move, are the hardworking ones. They are willing to leave the comfort zone to try something new.
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When I moved to Utah, that was the first I'd ever heard of "Water Rights". It is a completely foreign concept. And I came from L.A., which should be worried about water, but we never were. :D
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I think people hear stuff and then think they are an expert on Mormons. All without ever talking to a real practicing one. :D When I was a missionary in the Bible Belt, I heard from people who went to Baptist Churches that taught "classes" on the Mormons. All of it bunk to scare people off. Yeah, I can see how pastors who are paid to preach would feel threatened by a missionary church with a mostly volunteer clergy. ;D I even saw a church sign that said not to pray about the Book of Mormon, that's how they get you. :D And yep, SLC is a 'hole.
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@NeonAnimeDreams Yeah, I think the War on Drugs, although perhaps well intentioned (perhaps), has had a lot of unintended (perhaps) negative consequences. But I think it will get better as the US and Mexico integrate more.
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Yep, because otherwise what would hold the country together? Multi-ethnic states can prosper (Roman Empire was a big one), multi-cultural ones cannot.
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Dude, the Constitution IS hanging by a thread. And people who stand up for it are the ones who are going to save it. I think the White Horse Prophecy makes more sense now than it ever did. I don't think Mormons are gonna be the only ones, but if we are true to our faith, we will definitely be standing up for this Country and the Constitution.
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@DiMacky24 For real, I know that a lot of people were scared that the wave of immigrants were gonna turn the US into Mexico, but the opposite happened. They love this country and the opportunity, and have injected new conservative life that was sorely needed. :D It proves that the US principles and ideals are special, and that people from anywhere can benefit.
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@stevencooper4422 For real. Each nation in this probably deserves its own video, with a good amount of "more" research to boot. :P
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Yeah, I think some Mormons wanted to continue on to California, but we would have just ran into the same thing there. We picked the least desirable place in America, and made it work for us. The Mormon Corridor extends from into Canada to into Mexico. It's concentrated in Idaho, Utah, and Arizona. Mormons settled and colonized this land, including building Las Vegas as he said (though the Mafia was responsible for the Sin City Part). We also sent the "Mormon Battalion" during and after the Mexican America War, which ended up building a fort in San Diego, Los Angeles, and then working in Sutter's Mill when Gold was discovered. They stayed to get some gold, but then headed home to return to their families. I consider the Mormon Battalion almost like Forrest Gump in their proximity to US historical events. :D
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@clovismerovingian7764 More like regional consciousness. The US State System allows a lot of autonomy to states, and you are better off working for change in your city or state than on the national level. The US is so big and divers that policies that work for one may not work for another. It's like the EU. One policy cannot fit every country in Europe, and when they understand that, they will have better luck.
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For real. This is the second time he's tried to compare Utah to the Middle East, and I just don't see it. I don't think you can compare New Yorkers, Ohioans, and British and German Immigrants, with Christian Values, to the Arab Muslim Middle East, even if the land is similar (but still very different, with different settlement and technology). We Mormons are weird, but our weirdness is overrated, especially when you don't compare us to the SJWs.
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Nice. I think we are entering, or have been in, a migration era within the US, and I believe that God is moving people where they need to go. Or maybe its just economic and social forces. :D Either way, I think the US will go through some changes as a result, and I think rather than the rest of the country becoming like LA, I think the people who move to new places will eventually adapt to a healthier way of living.
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Yep, I completely agree. It was like a speed run of anti-mormon stereotypes.
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It basically already is. Visigoths were on both sides of the border. And if America ever collapsed, the Mexi-American culture will be a big contender in the power vacuum. They are powerful in the US, and Mexico.
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Is it better to get your own cloud rather than a planet? If we colonize the galaxy, you might get your own planet in this life, so what is so strange about believing that in the hereafter, with immortality and full knowledge, that we can go anywhere and do anything in God? And our garments are religious clothing, like a yamulke, or a head scarf in Islam, or a pastor's collar, or the Pope's hat. Make fun if you want, but religious clothing isn't as weird as you try to make it seem. :P
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Yeah, it kinda woke me up out of complacency. I guess we all have a responsibility to be careful not to accept simplifications as the real truth. :D
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The Mormon Church has more members outside the US than within it. And I would argue it is the strongest Christian Institution in the world. Most Christian Churches got weak or sold out, and now people aren't returning to church, but rather turning to traditional christian values as they understand them. Which is fine, but the other Christian faiths don't get to look down their noses at us. :D People just don't care to learn the truth about Mormons, probably because then we'll send the missionaries. :D
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@sluggo206 Gentile mean non-jewish, and that's how Mormons use it too. We consider ourselves Gentiles too, unless we actually had jewish ancestry. The one difference is that we believe that all people can join the family of God, and become part of the House of Israel, or God's chosen people. That's also why we do baptism for the dead, to give them the opportunity to accept. No force. It would feel foolish to call anyone a Gentile, because we are Gentiles too. :D And finally, I think its funny that people throughout the country are agnostic, atheist, or non-practising, but they are quick to pass judgment on our beliefs. I'd say we are the most fervent large sect of Christianity, not Protestant (and proud of it :D), and the proof is in the pudding. We are successful, and even well liked. When the worst thing people can say about you is that you are odd, I'll take that. Better than accepting this world's slide into moral decay. Now everyone wants to talk about traditional values, but we Mormons organized and helped pass an anti-gay marriage amendment in California! Before the Supreme Court overruled the States. We are organized, we are conservative, we are family oriented, and we did it when it wasn't popular. We took flak for our beliefs. We believe in the US Constitution, and freedom of religion and speech. The Mormon Church has more members outside of the US than inside the US. We have churches and temples all over the world. We have lots of Hispanic and Pacific Islander Members, and I hope we continue to spread. I served a mission and saw people's lives change when they joined the Church, for the better. It was like night and day. I really think people need something to believe in, something to work for, that goes beyond this life. I think religion can be that thing, but you have to see what fruit it bears. If you look at the fruit of the Mormons, you will see that it is good.
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@taylorc2542 Elaborate. :D
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@sluggo206 It could be an outdated kind of thing. It comes from the fact that Mormons believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, and restarted the true Church of God. And members of the true Church are the covenant people of God, and others are Gentiles. That's why it's most often used with the Jews, who are considered God's covenant people, and the rest of us are gentiles. But with Mormons, we believe you can join the covenant. So in a Jewish Sense, Mormons are Gentiles. But in a Mormon context, Gentiles can join the covenant, so being a Gentile is just a passing phase.
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It would be interesting, same as parts of Canada. If the US can come out of its current leadership crisis stronger, it will either make Canada and Mexico stronger, or it could lead to the break up of both or either.
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I looked at a Population map of the US, and in the empty quarter, it was basically SLC, Denver and that's it. :D Until the West Coast and the Mississippi.
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Where are they gonna get the water from? :D
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US also had the one drop of blood rule, back in the day. Hell, we didn't even consider Irish and Italians as white when they first came over. :D Now though, I think it's just a matter of time until Hispanics and East Asians are accepted as white. It takes a minority away from the Marxists, and helps out the White Team. :D It helps that both are intermarrying with Whites at high rates.
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Ezra Taft Benson was President of the Mormon Church, but before that he was the Sec of Agriculture for Reagan. He said he met with a higher up from the USSR, and the guy said that Communism was going to come to America. And of course Benson said no way. But then the other guy said that when Communism came, it would be welcomed with open arms. You look at the Yuri Beznev interview and what we know about the Commie Marxists, and it runs 100% true. Patriots who stand by the Constitution and traditional Christian Values are the only one who will stand against it, and I see tons of people waking up to that fact these days. It justifies my faith every day. Mormons are US Patriots. We love America, it is part of our religion. We think America is the Promised land. To me, everyone else is jumping on the bandwagon now that things are getting bad, but there is always room for more. :D The tide has turned, and the Swamp is terrified. God Bless America, and may we live as to be worthy of that blessing.
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NYC and LA are too big to fail. They'd get bailed out.
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