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  28. "I think Clinton prob feels like she has to pick a man to satisfy the balance needed to get elected."  I agree.  Unlike a good candidate who feels that the most important thing when choosing a running mate is finding the best person to be next in line for the most important job in the world... Hillary certainly is more concerned with things like... not picking another women because that would take some "shine" off her "historic" coronation.  Further more she is more interested in winning first and foremost and not what is good for the country. "Many of the Bernie bros are being turds"  No hypocrisy coming from you here is there?  We are turds and you are righteous.  Got it. "Bernie doesn't have many friends in the Senate."  You say this like it is a bad thing.  It is more of a badge of honor in my opinion.  It means he is more interested in doing the right thing rather than making friends. "Bernie's not a Democrat"  Who does Bernie caucus with?  Who does Bernie vote with?  How do democrats feel about the issues he champions? "He has refused to acknowledge Clinton's win"  She hasn't won anything yet... or did the convention happen and I didn't hear about it? "her historic accomplishment"  What did she do that was so historic?  A women ran for president in the 19th century.  Try not to diminish her accomplishment propping up your POS candidate. "or endorsed her."  Good for him.  It only makes me like him more.  And don't think for a second that I would care if he did.  I am a free thinker.  I am not going to support Hillary even if Sanders supports her. "When someone welcomes you into their home in this case party and you piss on them the way Sanders has done..."  Is that what they did?  They cheated and rigged the playing field from day one.  Is it so much to ask for free and fair elections from the "democratic" party?  Clearly it was. "I don't think they are going to give him anything"  Every now and then you say something I can agree with.  But don't kid yourself that he would have gotten anything had he just gone away quietly like the DNC and you hillbots wanted. "And after all the heavy handed hate and hostility from Sanders and progressives directed at Clinton"  She is a liar and corrupt.  Our elections were a sham and travesty.  If that isn't something that requires anger then what does? "Sanders would be undercutting her every chance he gets"  What has he done... other than dropping out and kissing the crown that makes you say this? Don't bother answering. It's rhetorical. I don't really care what you think.
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  30. "Nobody likes you Bernie freaks you're rabid haters" Love the hypocrisy. Are you not smart enough to realize you are doing it or do you just not mind being a complete hypocrite? "Sanders is a selfish old man feeding his ego" You support Hillary Clinton. The irony is as obvious as your hypocrisy... too bad you are not smart enough to realize your stupidity. "Bernie and his followers showed who they really are Chronic Independent party crybabies who hate liberals" I am proud to call myself an independent. There are too many people who are loyal to their party first and their country.... somewhere down on the list. I am crying. Either Hillary or Trump is likely to be the next President. This makes me sad. It should also make you sad as well but you are not smart enough to be. Hate liberals? I've proudly called myself a liberal since I became interested in politics. "the DNC" The DNC is corrupt as fk. They biased the entire election process from day one. They allowed DWS be head of the DNC despite a clear conflict of interest... she was Hillary's campaign co-chair in 2008 afterall. They love money in politics because it allows them to hold onto their power. They disenfranchise voters. They allowed their superdelegates to call an election before major elections (voter suppression) the day before elections... as opposed to letting voters vote without them putting their thumb on the scale. They have pushed a corrupt, hated, corporate shill like HRC from day one, only bothering hold sham elections. "overthrow the the will of the voters" It's tough to know the will of the voters when the game has been rigged from day one and it's tough to know the will of the voters when you don't allow people to vote. If we had free and fair elections, which we don't, you would really have a good point. "$220 million down the drain, and in Sanders's pockets.Has there been a more ungracious candidate in recent political history?..." You must be one of Hillary's and David Brock's paid shill right? Part of the her super pac money that is being spent spreading lies, misinformation, hate, false support and BS talking points for the queen? Your attacks are everything that I would expect from a Trump supporter. It really is impossible to tell the difference between talking to them and talking to you. You have nothing to offer in support of your candidate but try your hardest to put others down. You ignore the hypocrisy of your attacks because you live in glass house. "Clinton Won and by the Popular VOTE " Superdelegates tilted the field from day one. 3 million independents in NY alone were not allowed to vote. Exit polls are too far outside the margin of error (when they weren't being canceled). So yeah, if you ignore the cheating, disenfranchisement, and shenanigans you have a great point. Too bad we don't have free and fair elections coming from the "democratic" party or you really would have a great point here. "People didn't want hateful Sanders and his hateful followers" Not like you right? You've called me a twat, loser, turd, and more while living in your glass house. I understand why you support Hillary... she speaks to your values and ethics... none. "us Democrats" Your a democrat huh? You make me embarrassed to think that I used to be proud to call myself one. I won't be making that mistake again anytime soon. I do not support corruption and cronyism so I will not be supporting HRC or the DNC again anytime soon.
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  130. Duck there is so much wrong with everything you say its tough to know where to begin but I guess I'll try... "Sanders lost fair and square"  Do you really believe this?  Are you really so blind?  Ug.  I'm one sentence in and I'm already questioning why I'm bothering.  If you don't already realize the system is rigged and not fair I have to wonder why I'm bothering. Superdelegates biased the game before it began.  I could be willing to accept superdelegates and their role in the process if, and only if, they would keep their fking mouths shut during the election process.  To have nearly 500 superdelegates pledge their support to Hillary before any of us mere peasants were allowed to vote is completely unacceptable.  It biases everything going forward and corrupts the entire election process tipping the scales of all elections to follow.  It allows corrupt and lazy newsmedia to report Hillary as having an insurmountable lead, creating a sense of inevitability and suppressing voter turnout... AS INTENDENDED AND COMPLETELY UNFAIR to anyone but the willfully stupid such as yourself.  There are more reasons why the system is unfair but why am I even bothering with you really.  I'd rather save the wasted effort. "by which she lost to Barack Obama in 2008."  Arguments such as this have always been the idiots way of justifying injustice throughout all of history.  Just because something has been does nothing to justify its existence or fairness.  You may as well be a confederate arguing slavery is fine because, "that's just the way it has always been." "Why must he incite volatile people and provoke useless rage?"  The only person inciting rage is you.  Stupidity, lies, and muddying the waters by people like you piss me off.  Unless you would like to be more specific about why you claim he incites volatile people when he time and again denounces violence.  Don't bother it's rhetorical.  We both know you are liar like your queen who has absolutely nothing to back up your BS claim. "he still can’t manage to disagree with people without being disagreeable."  You need to look at yourself in the mirror and think about what you see before you say things like this.  I admit that I can be quite disagreeable because morons like you piss me off and I have no problem telling you that you are a fking idiot.  But I also don't go around and tell others how they are being disagreeable because I am not a complete fking hypocrite like you. "The parties are private organizations. They get to set the rules, "  Every now and then you say something that isn't complete BS.  The problem with this statement is that you say it as an effort to justify injustice.  Just because they get to set the rules does not mean that the rules are inherently fair.  They have nothing to do with one another.  For example let's talk basketball since it was just in the news.  Let's say the NBA decided to change the rules and that from now on Cleveland gets to start each game with 10 points (the NBA dubs them superdelegate points).  That is within their power.  They too are a private organization.  Some teams would even be able to win some games against them.  Would it be fair though?  Obviously not... unless you are dumb as duck. "lies about her."  Have I lied about her at all?  You might want to consider that she is called a liar because she is a fking liar.  It isn't just a right wing conspiracy.  And her being corrupt is also not a right wing conspiracy... she just is corrupt as fk.  She has no principles.  There is nothing she wouldn't say or do to be President.  She just says what she thinks people want to hear. "You, however, want the rules changed because your guy isn't winning."  No.  I want the rules changed because the rules are unfair.  I, unlike your queen, have principles that I hold regardless of how they might affect me or my candidate.  I am willing to accept losing but I am unwilling to accept cheating and unfairness. "Maybe you should stop blaming the DNC," and "It's not the DNC's job to help Bernie win." The DNC on May 26, 2015... "Our goals in the coming months will be to frame the Republican field and the eventual nominee early and to provide a contrast between the GOP field and HRC."  THAT'S ON MAY 26 2015!  They go on to say, "Use specific hits to muddy the waters around ethics, transparency and campaign finance attacks on HRC."  Yup, it wasn't the DNC's job to help Bernie win... it was the DNC's job to help Hillary win. And that wasn't according to me... that was according to THEM you ducking idiot. I suspect you might be one of their paid operatives. This also isn't just some conspiracy theory.  POS David Brock thinks that this is good politics and has spent over a million dollars paying trolls like you because he, like the POS he works for HRC, have no ethics.  For your sake I hope that you are being paid for your willful ignorance and are not really so ducking stupid. "Sanders supporters suggesting that polls point to him as the best nominee - is ridiculous."  The only thing that is ridiculous is you.  We are talking about EXIT POLLS.  Do you know what those are?  Are you smart enough to know the difference?  They aren't polls conducted a week before an election or something.  They are polls taken where people are voting the day of an election.  They absolutely should be in line with election results and when they are not something is terribly wrong.  Go to trustvotedotorg to learn more.  From them, " when exit poll data varies more than 2% from electronic vote totals, the electronic vote totals are questionnable. If fact, 2% is used as the boundary by the US government when determining that the election in another country other than the US has possibly been stolen."  Discrepancy in favor of Clinton from exit polls on March 1, 2016; Georgia 11.9%, Virginia 4.3%, Vermont 1.1%, Mass 8%, Alabama 13.9%, Tenn 8.3%, Oklahoma -6.1%, Ark 5.2%, Tex 6.4%.  That is what we are talking about.  Something is clearly wrong with this picture unless you are a blind moron who either actually thinks we are talking about polls conducted before an election, or more likely the more I think about it, just a POS muddying the water so that hopefully others won't be able to see the truth. Duck you.  You suck at life.  I've wasted so much more time on you than you deserve.  I'm done caring what you think or have to say.  You are a lost cause and not worth any more of my time. Good luck with your POS candidate. You deserve each other.
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  179.  @TheJumpsuitJack  "AOC's one vote" That's not her only inexcusible vote but it perfectly shows how she squanders the power she does have and acts in complete opposite to the values she claims to hold. These are AOCs own words that she has on twitter this very moment... " Sometimes it’s to get members on the record, so ppl can’t make excuses later. Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments. Sometimes we vote for the historical record - to let future generations know we did everything we could." She's also the same person who said that she wouldn't vote for nancy for speaker before she got in office. If you want to defend her how about you at least start with this one vote and then we can move on to her other inexcusable votes. "Sam is personal" LMFAO No. It's not. It's again another example of someone whose actions betray the values they claim to hold. It's evidence that he's a fraud in the same way aocs actions betray her. "It's opinion" Yes. It is. It's the opinion you come to when the values you actually hold and care about are protecting your cult. At best it's a biased opinion to try and maintain his access to AOC. At worst he is straight up controlled opposition whose job it is to sheepherd people into a corrupt party. He might pretend to care about their wrongdoing from time to time but that's only to get the sheep to trust him when he tells them all to vote for them when it matters most. "He's a commentator, not someone with similar power to goverent officials." Thanks captain obvious. Those are words even if they offer nothing of value to the conversation at hand. "knows exactly who Sam is" He's a sheepherder who will tell you to vote blue no matter who. He doesn't care about these people at all. At the end of the day he only cares what color jersey they are wearing. He's a hack. "Your personal beef is irrelevant." So according your "logic" that would mean you have "beef" with me? Then it too is irrelevant. "You probably aren't a "real progressive" in my eyes." I want universal health care, money out of politics, to give peace a chance, to break up the banks, reparations, free college, freedom of speech, freedom to decide what goes into my body and more. I also don't really care if you think I'm not a progressive or not. It's more important to me that you realize that people like sam and AOC are frauds, because they are.
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  184.  @TheJumpsuitJack  "Get a grip." Sam cultivates probably the most intellectually dishonest crowd I've ever come across. That, and comments of yours such as this, make it hard for me to take you seriously. That said you managed to sprinkle in some things that I don't think were downright terrible so I'm going to do my best to address them and ignore all the dumb BS like this. "Your problem seems to be you put too much faith in the political mechanisms of America and the political mainstream." I've made this mistake many times in the past but I don't think I don't this much anymore. I've been fooled to many times and I'm on to their game. "plan on peacefully prying power and wealth away from the capitalist class in the dramatic fashion" The truckers show a perfect way we should be doing this. "overthrow capitalism" I'm not sure this is a reasonable goal but I'm still happy to try to do this. People have to be mad. Sam puts people to sleep. "the planet on a more equitable, sustainable path" This problem is too big for me. I don't have "faith" in science but I am hopeful that people smarter than me can figure this out. "social collapse" I am absolutely not saying this is my goal but I also don't see this as something I absolutely need to avoid. Sometimes something needs to burn down so that something better can takes it's place. I'm not saying I think it would be better if "society" collapsed but I am pretty much over capitalism. And there would be no easy way to transition off it. "ideas" Make sure everyone is as mad as they should be... and use that anger to pressure the oligarchy. Make them fear our pitchforks (in a symbolic way, I'm a pacifist). "anticapitalist" This was mostly why I'm answering. I do consider myself this. "logic behind the speaker vote" It's really not complicated. Nancy needed their votes to be speaker. Use that leverage to get something of value for progressives. Asking for a vote on m4a makes sense. It was during a pandemic. Let people voting against health care pay the price after the fact. And they would. It didn't need to be that. But it absolutely should have been something. "alternative" If dems don't cave then noone is allowed to be speaker and the country debates the topic. Let them explain why they aren't even willing to even VOTE on m4a during a pandemic much less give you m4a. That it's that important to them. Let them pay the price after the fact. My allegiance is to m4a and getting it.... not to politicians or a party.
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  274.  @glen7228  "I'm starting to think you're having two conversations." You are clearly continuing to think silly things. "What point of mine" What? I'm suppose to be making your points? That's not how it works. I'm making my point and telling you exactly what it is. "Nothing about that has anything to do with what we were talking about" Again... I'm talking about sam and why he's terrible. Censorship is another way to do it. Real leftists believe in free speech. Sam isn't a real leftist. He's controlled opposition meant to sheep herd you into a corrupt, warmongering, right wing, "democratic" party. "So there it is, you don't like Sam Seder." Go on you. You figured this out even after I made it perfectly clear. Bravo. "You haven't addressed a single one of my points" Your OP starts with, "Nothing will change..." as if you want things to change right? Well I'm trying to tell you why you are listening to the wrong person. Sam is doing great. He has lots of money. He doesn't care if things change. He'd prefer it if things stay the way they are because as it is he'd doing fine. "you've made some senseless statements" LMFAO I can't make you smarter than you are. They all make perfect sense and I'm even telling you why. If you can't understand that's on you. "haven't backed any of them up with any kind of explanations" LMFAO Me doing this despite your BS, "can you please point to a single election where sam didn't tell people to vote for a dem in a general... I'll wait forever because you can't." Not only have I explained myself but I've given you a way to intelligently address what I'm saying. Instead you are doing this and ignoring my point and rhetorical question. "how about we start with why you don't like Sam Seder," LMFAO I'm doing my best to tell you. How about you try to address my points the way I'm doing for yours instead? "other than you don't like him telling people to vote Blue, or is that it?" Let's say that was my only reason. Would that not be enough? FYI dems have the presidency, house and senate and things aren't changing. Don't you want things to change or not?
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  276.  @glen7228  "I was asking you to make your own points," I already had. And instead of addressing them you are claiming I'm not making any. It's wasting my time. "putting things in quotation marks" I do this to tell you exactly what I'm addressing. "cryptic statement and expecting me to read your mind" LMFAO I'm being as clear as I can. Again, I can't fix your comprehension problems. "You're making a lot of assumptions about who I am and who I listen to." LMFAO You don't think it's fair of me to assume you listen to sam? While you are commenting on sams message board? I'm having a tough time taking you seriously. I legit hope you are just trolling. "My original comment had absolutely nothing to do with Sam Seder did it?" LMFAO I don't really care either way. "I don't know why you decided to jump in and act like I'm some idiot" You do keep acting like an idiot. You do have seem to have an impossible time understanding even the simplest of points. "doing as I'm told" LMFAO Actions speak louder than words. Look at your OP, "comfortable wealthy people, living comfortable wealthy lives." Do you only care about this when talking about politicians? Or maybe you should also care about this when talking about sam? Like I'm pointing out. Like I'm arguing. And just putting your fingers in your ears doesn't make that point go away. Address it or don't. But don't pretend like I'm not making an argument. "I can't see how my comment implied that," You comment implies you should care about all the things I'm pointing out about sam. I'll just figure you are a hypocrite who doesn't care about any of it. You are just virtue signaling. My mistake. I thought you cared if things changed. I thought you cared if someone was rich and it was changing their perspective. It's clear to me now you really don't. "I don't think he's a shill for the corporate Democrats" Which is why I'm trying to wake you the f up. Every election he tells you to vote for those corporate dems. Because they are less evil. Nevermind that they are evil... sam will tell you to vote for them. And you will won't you? "Just because a person is wealthy, doesn't mean they're corrupt or disingenuous." Have you talked to the person who wrote your OP? The one who said, "Our law makers are all comfortable wealthy people, living comfortable wealthy lives. Even the progressives lose touch..." What happened to that guy who seemed to care about that sort of thing? "I'm not even sure he's a Democrat." LMFAO He's been a pundit for a really long time. Whose advocated for lots of politicians. If he's not a dem then you should be able to cite at least one general election where he didn't advocate for the dem. Of course he's a dem. What is wrong with you? "vote for the person who you think will do the best job" LMFAO You both voted for joe biden right? I know sam did but so did you right? You think he's the best person for the job? The corrupt guy? Who proudly wrote the crime bill? Who voted for the Iraq war? Who would veto m4a if it made it's way to his desk? Who wants a ministry of truth? That's the guy you think would do the best job? LMFAO You CLEARLY listen to too much sam. "real leftist" Real leftist care about corruption and money in politics. We care about the enviornment and don't want fracking. We want peace and to stop giving money to the MIC. We want to defund the police so that money can be used for other priorities. I want criminal justice reform and more. The dems are obstacles to ALL of that. But if you listen to too much sam you will think you need to vote for them anyway.
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  279.  @glen7228  "That's a cop out. Simply answer the questions I asked without writing a novel" LMFAO Sorry not sorry a novel isn't good enough for you. "Which party has consistently voted against change and protecting big money's influence on policy makers?" LMFAO Both major parties. Obviously. "How would Trump have been a better choice than Biden?" Most importantly we wouldn't be fighting the same proxy war with russia and wouldn't be implementing sanctions that are raising the cost of fuel and crushing americans. If trump were president you would care about all the people the US is deporting. While biden does it you don't care. "Are you saying it's better to not participate rather than pick a side?" Not once. I say pick the side of good. And neither major party represents it. I say lots and lots and lots of things. Too much maybe. Address the things I actually say instead of doing this. "What do you think it is to be a real leftist?" They believe in money out of politics, giving peace a chance, protecting the environment, universal health care, and more. They support all the things that dems are obstacles to achieving much like republicans. "Those are simple questions, no need to write a book" You can't even comprehend simple answers. I'm going to say what I want to say. You are going to be triggered and confused regardless. "you have a point about posts not showing up." Just like I have a point that sam supports censorship. "Are you saying those posts are being censored?" I am. Or would you like to propose an alternative theory? I could use a good laugh.
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  353.  @Regenmacher175  "If you're actually a left-winger" I definitely am. "think Hinkle is left-wing" He clearly is. You know how I can tell? He actually cares about it when the state department is getting a raise and so called "lefties" go along with it and get nothing for it. And so do I. Sam doesn't because he hack who cares about his cult. "your point of view does not really interest me." You are not intellectually curious about things you should... just like sam. You virtue signal to lefties like me while demonstrating you don't actually care about me or my interests. Just like sam I don't care sedar. I'm a person who used to support the dems. I gave money to AOC but now I call her a fraud and you don't care why. It's telling. "You're mad at 6 people" They are the few who actually pretended to care about the things I do before selling me out. Nancy used to pretend to care about universal health care a long time ago but she doesn't anymore. I can only get mad at people I had expectations for or mad at them for breaking their promises. AOC and the squad promised to fight for universal health care so of course they are the ones I care about when they don't. "all the other politicians" Who never pretended to be on my side. Who I've never supported. Who were never suppose to be on my team in the first place. I actually have more respect than them because they don't even pretend to be on my side while so called lefties stab me in back and their shills like sam don't care about it. "Hinkle does not make videos about right-wing corporatists or Republicans" You can go everywhere for this. You act like he thinks they are good. You act like you need to be told that they are terrible when you clearly do not but you ABSOLUTELY need to be told how AOC sucks because you don't realize it even when it's clear as day. No one here is saying republicans are good. You are just deflecting to point at them because you can't intelligently defend the people in your cult. When I talk to right wingers I don't spend my time telling them how AOC is terrible. They already know. But I will tell them trump sucks and you know what they do? They do the same stupid BS you do. They deflect to talk about the other team and how they suck as if it has jack shit to do with the flaws in their own cult. "easy scapegoat" LMFAO It's like even you understand they can't be defended on some level. Sorry not sorry if the truth hurts and you can't handle it. The facts simply are not on your side no matter how much you put your fingers in your ears to ignore it. "magically make the policies happen" LMFAO They are deciding votes in must pass bills while you pretend they have no power or leverage. Their is nothing magic about what I'm talking about. If you think it is it's only because you have been brainwashed by too much propaganda. "Getting them elected is great because their ideas become part of the mainstream discourse as opposed to fringe ideas but there's not much else you can expect" Wait... we can't expect them to live up to the ideas they claim to hold while running? We need to just take in the ass when they bend us over. Sam doesn't care. Neither do you. You are part of the problem. You and your ilk are straight up stopping me from getting things I care about. You and sam are the white moderate MLK warned everyone of.
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  354.  @Regenmacher175  "you CLAIM to be left-wing." Yup. I should know. Sam claims to be left wing but doesn't care when the state department gets a raise and so called progressives vote for it and get nothing for it. "You SAY he cares" Yup. I even concede I could be wrong about it. I even concede I don't care if he doesn't if his actions help me. And it works the other way too. For all I know for certain sam's heart is actually in the right place and I'm unable to figure that out because he acts like a useful idiot. At the end of the day all that matters is a persons actions and not why they do what they are. If your actions are hurting my cause I will treat you like my enemy and if you actions are helping me I'll treat you like my friend. "he came across as an insufferable wokescolder and as a performative virtue signaler" Nonsense attacks that have nothing to do with substance. Its just a string of smear words as if it's his fault he might be mad about things. Look in the mirror. How insufferable are you? You keep blaming peasants for being mad, you signal virtue but do it to protect terrible politicians. You want so scold jackson because reasons that have nothing to do with his arguments. It's pathetic and transparent. "right-wing" You are talking about the guy who cares about cops getting a raise. The left is suppose to be ones who want to defund the police. I'm pretty sure the right winger is the guy who doesn't care that they are getting extra money even after knowing what they are doing with that money and it's abhorrent. "Part of defending left-wing ideas is calling out right-winger" LMFAO We are. Right wingers want more money for the state department. Right wingers vote for nancy pelosi and get nothing for it. Nancy pelosi and the dems are right wing party. "Curious why you lot don't do that" LMFAO Curious why you don't call out people acting like right wingers. But it's fine as long as they are in your cult. Look.. you wrote a lot more but I honestly don't take you seriously enough to want to address it all intelligently. Much like sam I find you impossible to take seriously and I'm not really talking to you... I'm only really talking at you.
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  355.  @Regenmacher175  " Note how you didn't address Dimmy kissing Tucker's boots all day" I don't care. And not for terrible reasons like sam has but for good reasons. I want people who watch fox news to be able to hear the message that jimmy preaches of: giving peace a chance, universal health care, getting money out of politics, freeing assange, and more. This is just a mindless smear to act like he goes on to tucker to talk about right wing issues or come at anything from a right wing perspective. He talkes to people that are cultists and gives him tools to possible break free. You act as if jimmy is giving tucker a platform. It's the opposite. Tucker is giving jimmy a platform to preach the things you should care about but don't because tucker. I don't like tucker. I don't watch tucker. But if I did I would definitely need to be exposed to the ideas that jimmy brings and it's good that he brings them to them. They need to be broken out of their cultlike mindset as much as you do. Shutting people up doesn't prove them wrong. It only proves you are scared of what they have to say. Even if tucker was a tool who was wrong about literally everything so freaking what. Go there and tell them all why they are wrong. "Tucker... the Squad" Look at you. You are making excuses for me wanting to hold POLITICIANS accountable. But think I should care very deeply about holding a single pundit accountable? Like I said... I don't watch tucker. I can't defend him and don't want to defend him. I want his audience to be broken out of their cult as much as I do you. I might not take you very seriously. Or fox viewers very seriously. Or tucker very seriously. But I have no problem with anyone talking to anyone. Debate is healthy. Fun fact: nancy pelosi literally refuses to debate anyone and has for a long fucking time. If I were a partisan hack for the dems I might not care about this. But I'm not a hack. I'm a person with principles so I do. "your hero is not even willing to use that tool at his disposal or to support voting third party" I'm not sure what you are talking. I'm pretty sure it's BS. "I didn't even mention examples like Greenwald's" LMFAO What? Greenwald? When did this start having something to do with him exactly? "Maybe this is language you understand:" I think that at best you are useful idiot. At worst I think you are paid to mindlessly smear people the way you are. "those guys are right-wing sellouts" You bootlick for corrupt dems. The establishment projects it's faults 100 percent of the time and this is just another example of it. "the Office of Foreign Disaster Relief" Yeah. I've noticed this is the BS being used to act like giving a raise the to state department was like the only way to get this passed. The BS is so remarkably transparent I am left baffled how anyone takes it seriously. I mean... really. Do you want to act like if they didn't get that raise this would never have happened? You clowns are professional turd polishers. Sorry I'm not buying your BS. It's still a turd. OBVIOUSLY. "Hinkle just seems to have conflated the state department with the Pentagon" LMFAO No dude. You are making excuses for what the state department is doing with that money. Even that intellectually dishonest sam conceded that what the state department is doing is wrong. But that was after he conceded that he didn't speak out against it.
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  359.  @Regenmacher175  "you're full of shit because you claim you want to hold people accountable while not using the tools necessary to hold them accountable." LMFAO You say this to me but not to sam as he makes excuses and rationalizations for her failures. "while not using the tools necessary to hold them accountable." AOC isn't in my district dipshit. I have my wallet and I have my voice and little else to hold her to account. "You want to posture" Nope. I want her to actually fight for the principles she ran on. "Sometimes it’s to get members on the record, so ppl can’t make excuses later. Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments. Sometimes we vote for the historical record - to let future generations know we did everything we could." I want the AOC who wrote that... not the sellout who betrays those words. "posture and have people tell you how virtuous and principled you are without ever doing anything" I'm going to copy and paste this again. This is AOC posturing and pretending to have virute without ever doing anything she says in her own tweet.... "Sometimes it’s to get members on the record, so ppl can’t make excuses later. Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments. Sometimes we vote for the historical record - to let future generations know we did everything we could." Those are AOCs words. But I'm the one posturing? I'm the one virtue signaling. But not her? Yeah right. You are completely full of shit.
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  362.  @maytalcliff9497  "Tucker had already said that Trump should pardon Assange" Did he really? I don't watch his show but is that really what happened? Because I saw the show with jimmy where he told his people that jimmy changed his mind. Why would he do that if his audience should have known that was BS even I couldn't? Why would he have to gain to lie to people about that when his fans are the ones who could know that he lying? And if tucker was lying about this then that should only hurt his credibility while you act that jimmy gives him credibility. Furthermore I thought that tucker is a pure right winger. You mean to tell me that he's further to the left than the democrats on an issue that is INCREDIBLY important to me? If that's the case are you sure tucker is the right winger (I mean he is) and not the dems (but so are they)? "outright and easily disprovable lie" LMFAO Like I said. Then disprove him. Which you aren't actually doing. You are merely claiming that he was lying. He might have been. Like I said I don't watch him. But I've also made it perfectly clear why I don't care about it and you have given nonsensical BS to try justify your hate. (well, not you but the other guy mostly). " He goes on Tucker’s show and says that having progressives in the democratic party is actually worse than not having any." So what? That's his opinion and there is nothing wrong with it. You are only triggered because you think it hurts your cult when you should be caring that cult sucks. "His anti-intervention talk" Thanks for at least admitting this... that jimmy goes there to talk anti-intervention. Jimmy rightfully trashes CNN and MSNBC but he would certainly go to those propaganda outlets too to talk if it means he can spread an anti-interventionist message. But CNN and MSNBC aren't going to have him on for that and beggars can't be choosers. I'd prefer to be on major networks even if they are garbage to tell everyone that sam, the squad, the democrats, the republicans, and the corporate media all suck. That isn't an option for me. I have to settle for what I can get so I'm telling you here instead. Now while you are here stop being an idiot.
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  363.  @maytalcliff9497  "Assange helped out daddy Trump" You only care about your cult. You don't care that cult is terrible. I protect journalists. I don't want them persecuted. Wow do people like you suck. "Sam happened to be a guest on Chris Hayes’ show" Yeah. Sam gets access to MSNBC because he's a fucking tool of the establishment. Jimmy would go there to even though they are POS. They aren't about to invite him because they are scared of what he has to say. "Sam was the only one pushing back against that cable news narrative" Jimmy has absolutely pushed back on that exact same narrative... "While Jimmy was..." But don't let that stop you from lying about it. This isn't like talking about tucker. I'm familiar with jimmy's work and you are full of it. "relentlessly trashing Bernie" Again... you are just straight up lying. I was a bernie supporter. I was furious that jimmy endorsed tulsi over bernie. But jimmy absolutely was not "trashing" bernie even if he had criticisms of him at the time. Your lies are straight up transparent. I watched jimmy that whole time, had my own criticisms of him, but you just lying. "Sam used his Hayes..." Hayes is a propagandist... as is tucker (note: I'm not saying they are "equally" guilty of this before you go there because you clowns always do) But I don't care if sam goes there. I'm not a hypocrite like you are. "he hasn’t been invited on cable news for ages" He instead gets access to AOC because that's who he's covering for and making excuses for these days. Do you think AOC would talk to jackson? Of course not. Jackson would hold her to account for her indefensible voting record and sam doesn't care about it. "I certainly don’t mind one bit being called an idiot" I know. That would take self awareness you do not have. "I’ll wear it as a badge of honor." The feeling is mutual when I get insulted by people in your cult.
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  536.  @peterbondy  "you limp me in with others" You are criticizing me like sams sycophants. You are not going after the blatant lies of sams fans like sams fans. You are defending sam and not in any sort of good way like sams fans. You were trying to use a thought experiment as a way to ignore what I'm saying as if you are not capable of thinking. You have yet to acknowledge the fact that sam has never told anyone not to vote for a democrat in a general election. So yeah. I'm going to lump you in with all the others with you act like all the others. And the same thing can be said of AOC while she votes in pretty much lock step with all the corporate dems and while she squanders the leverage she has to get jack shit for progressives. That's how it works for me. I'm going to judge you by your actions. "That’s not fair to me or you if I did it to you." I call out everyone. You were trying to call out me right? But not the guy with blatant lies wrapped in smears? I want to you to say why because I think it's telling and hypocritical of you to pick and choose who you call out like this. You continue to address your problems with me and have yet to say their behavior was wrong a single time even when pressed. Repeatedly. "Because some other commentor didn’t look and see the channel you recommended did cover the Israeli issue isn’t anything to do with me or Sam or anyone else." So instead of calling it a lie which it obviously was you are going to polish that turd instead? "I’m not responsible for other viewers commitment to accuracy." I asked you what you thought of it. And instead of just calling it out like you seem so wanting to do for me you polished it. That's what I'd expect someone in sams cult to do. "They all have their dodgy moments." Do you have any breaking points? Where you decide that maybe it would better to not be exposing you to blatant propaganda? If you willingly listen to partisan hacks like sam not caring that he's a hack then you probably get what you deserve. Pundits are like politicians... have some standards. Don't listen to people that prove themselves frauds. Fool me once, well the point is that you can't get fooled again. "appreciate every single journalist" What about the ones that actively work with the CIA to propagandize the people? Don't get me wrong real journalists are heros. But fake journalists who are actually controlled opposition are the worst of the worst. "bottom line is I don’t need to agree with every segment I watch" Of course. But if you listen to people that completely disingenuous you are listen to propaganda out of some sense of duty to listen to all sides or some shit then you are being a dupe.
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