Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "David Dayen: Elizabeth Warren for VP?" video.

  1. There are a lot of people I have lost lots of respect for during the current campaign. None more than Warren perhaps. I very much expected her to support Sanders considering the views she claims to value. Now with her supporting Clinton I feel she has really sold out. Never Clinton.
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  2. Elizabeth Warren in her own words about who she now supports... "In the spring of 2001, the bankruptcy bill was reintroduced in the Senate, essentially unchanged from the version President Clinton had vetoed the previous year. This time, freshman Sen. Hillary Clinton voted in favor of the bill. Had the bill been transformed to get rid of all those awful provisions that had so concerned First Lady Hillary Clinton? No. The bill was essentially the same, but Hillary Rodham Clinton was not. As first lady, Mrs. Clinton had been persuaded that the bill was bad for families, and she was willing to fight for her beliefs. Her husband was a lame duck at the time he vetoed the bill; he could afford to forgo future campaign contributions. As New York's newest senator, however, it seems that Hillary Clinton could not afford such a principled position. ... Big banks were now part of Sen. Clinton's constituency. She wanted their support, and they wanted hers — including a vote in favor of "that awful bill.""
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  3. Knight, she certainly talked the talk but I agree that walking the walk is what's really important. She is currently supporting the corrupt, corporate shill named Hillary. Everything else just seems like details at the moment.
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  4. "I think Clinton prob feels like she has to pick a man to satisfy the balance needed to get elected."  I agree.  Unlike a good candidate who feels that the most important thing when choosing a running mate is finding the best person to be next in line for the most important job in the world... Hillary certainly is more concerned with things like... not picking another women because that would take some "shine" off her "historic" coronation.  Further more she is more interested in winning first and foremost and not what is good for the country. "Many of the Bernie bros are being turds"  No hypocrisy coming from you here is there?  We are turds and you are righteous.  Got it. "Bernie doesn't have many friends in the Senate."  You say this like it is a bad thing.  It is more of a badge of honor in my opinion.  It means he is more interested in doing the right thing rather than making friends. "Bernie's not a Democrat"  Who does Bernie caucus with?  Who does Bernie vote with?  How do democrats feel about the issues he champions? "He has refused to acknowledge Clinton's win"  She hasn't won anything yet... or did the convention happen and I didn't hear about it? "her historic accomplishment"  What did she do that was so historic?  A women ran for president in the 19th century.  Try not to diminish her accomplishment propping up your POS candidate. "or endorsed her."  Good for him.  It only makes me like him more.  And don't think for a second that I would care if he did.  I am a free thinker.  I am not going to support Hillary even if Sanders supports her. "When someone welcomes you into their home in this case party and you piss on them the way Sanders has done..."  Is that what they did?  They cheated and rigged the playing field from day one.  Is it so much to ask for free and fair elections from the "democratic" party?  Clearly it was. "I don't think they are going to give him anything"  Every now and then you say something I can agree with.  But don't kid yourself that he would have gotten anything had he just gone away quietly like the DNC and you hillbots wanted. "And after all the heavy handed hate and hostility from Sanders and progressives directed at Clinton"  She is a liar and corrupt.  Our elections were a sham and travesty.  If that isn't something that requires anger then what does? "Sanders would be undercutting her every chance he gets"  What has he done... other than dropping out and kissing the crown that makes you say this? Don't bother answering. It's rhetorical. I don't really care what you think.
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  5. "This is why  you losers Lost . This never ending  toxic hatred." Are you at least smart enough to see the hypocrisy of your statements?
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  6. "Nobody likes you Bernie freaks you're rabid haters" Love the hypocrisy. Are you not smart enough to realize you are doing it or do you just not mind being a complete hypocrite? "Sanders is a selfish old man feeding his ego" You support Hillary Clinton. The irony is as obvious as your hypocrisy... too bad you are not smart enough to realize your stupidity. "Bernie and his followers showed who they really are Chronic Independent party crybabies who hate liberals" I am proud to call myself an independent. There are too many people who are loyal to their party first and their country.... somewhere down on the list. I am crying. Either Hillary or Trump is likely to be the next President. This makes me sad. It should also make you sad as well but you are not smart enough to be. Hate liberals? I've proudly called myself a liberal since I became interested in politics. "the DNC" The DNC is corrupt as fk. They biased the entire election process from day one. They allowed DWS be head of the DNC despite a clear conflict of interest... she was Hillary's campaign co-chair in 2008 afterall. They love money in politics because it allows them to hold onto their power. They disenfranchise voters. They allowed their superdelegates to call an election before major elections (voter suppression) the day before elections... as opposed to letting voters vote without them putting their thumb on the scale. They have pushed a corrupt, hated, corporate shill like HRC from day one, only bothering hold sham elections. "overthrow the the will of the voters" It's tough to know the will of the voters when the game has been rigged from day one and it's tough to know the will of the voters when you don't allow people to vote. If we had free and fair elections, which we don't, you would really have a good point. "$220 million down the drain, and in Sanders's pockets.Has there been a more ungracious candidate in recent political history?..." You must be one of Hillary's and David Brock's paid shill right? Part of the her super pac money that is being spent spreading lies, misinformation, hate, false support and BS talking points for the queen? Your attacks are everything that I would expect from a Trump supporter. It really is impossible to tell the difference between talking to them and talking to you. You have nothing to offer in support of your candidate but try your hardest to put others down. You ignore the hypocrisy of your attacks because you live in glass house. "Clinton Won and by the Popular VOTE " Superdelegates tilted the field from day one. 3 million independents in NY alone were not allowed to vote. Exit polls are too far outside the margin of error (when they weren't being canceled). So yeah, if you ignore the cheating, disenfranchisement, and shenanigans you have a great point. Too bad we don't have free and fair elections coming from the "democratic" party or you really would have a great point here. "People didn't want hateful Sanders and his hateful followers" Not like you right? You've called me a twat, loser, turd, and more while living in your glass house. I understand why you support Hillary... she speaks to your values and ethics... none. "us Democrats" Your a democrat huh? You make me embarrassed to think that I used to be proud to call myself one. I won't be making that mistake again anytime soon. I do not support corruption and cronyism so I will not be supporting HRC or the DNC again anytime soon.
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  7. It really is amazing to me how many people have dumb ideas as to what a VP is suppose to be. Regarding, "Your VP candidate is suppose to shore up a portion of the electorate that you aren't certain that the presidential candidate can secure on their own." No they are not. Nobody but the dumbest of folks vote based on the bottom of the ticket. The VP first, foremost, and solely should be based on who would be the best person to run the country in the event of a catastrophe befalls the President. Yes there are other reasons that politicians use in their determination. But those are all terrible no good reasons that reflect terrible no good candidates.
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  8. It's not that people like myself are "giving up on her." We just feel that actions speak louder than words. If I thought someone's words were what is important I wouldn't think Hillary is the POS I think she is. For example I think Hillary is a POS because of what she does. I still respect Warren much more than the average politician.... but that really isn't saying much. And I respect her far less since she is willing to help support corrupt, corporate Hillary. She of all people should know better. She either doesn't know, doesn't care, or has sold out. Ultimately it doesn't really matter much which reason she is willing to help Hillary... none speak well on her behalf. Never Hillary.
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  9. Daffy Duck regarding, "Your sense of entitlement to hate and smear Clinton relentlessly is bullshit It has everything to do with your candidate losing.You need to give it a rest it's just classless trolling at this point and makes you look like the twat" You gather all this just because I called Hillary a POS? You might want to consider that I call her that because of her actions. Because she seems to think she is entitled to be President. You might want to consider that I resent the fact that she has zero principles and that she would say or do ANYTHING if it meant that she would be president. If you think that I am a "twat" because I do not like the facts that she is liar and corrupt so be it. If you think that the only reason I feel the way I do is because my candidate lost... well... I can't stop you from being stupid. Don't think your insults hurt me. Remember that you said all this BS the next time you hate on smear Trump... no doubt you will. But that is probably different in your mind because he deserves to be insulted and smeared... not like your queen. Good luck with her anointing. I will not be a part of it. Never Hillary.
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  10. "a powerless useless position like VP" I know right. Is that even a real job? If I had the misfortune of such a position I don't think I would even bother to put it on a resume. What does a real man such as yourself do for a living?
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  11. Duck there is so much wrong with everything you say its tough to know where to begin but I guess I'll try... "Sanders lost fair and square"  Do you really believe this?  Are you really so blind?  Ug.  I'm one sentence in and I'm already questioning why I'm bothering.  If you don't already realize the system is rigged and not fair I have to wonder why I'm bothering. Superdelegates biased the game before it began.  I could be willing to accept superdelegates and their role in the process if, and only if, they would keep their fking mouths shut during the election process.  To have nearly 500 superdelegates pledge their support to Hillary before any of us mere peasants were allowed to vote is completely unacceptable.  It biases everything going forward and corrupts the entire election process tipping the scales of all elections to follow.  It allows corrupt and lazy newsmedia to report Hillary as having an insurmountable lead, creating a sense of inevitability and suppressing voter turnout... AS INTENDENDED AND COMPLETELY UNFAIR to anyone but the willfully stupid such as yourself.  There are more reasons why the system is unfair but why am I even bothering with you really.  I'd rather save the wasted effort. "by which she lost to Barack Obama in 2008."  Arguments such as this have always been the idiots way of justifying injustice throughout all of history.  Just because something has been does nothing to justify its existence or fairness.  You may as well be a confederate arguing slavery is fine because, "that's just the way it has always been." "Why must he incite volatile people and provoke useless rage?"  The only person inciting rage is you.  Stupidity, lies, and muddying the waters by people like you piss me off.  Unless you would like to be more specific about why you claim he incites volatile people when he time and again denounces violence.  Don't bother it's rhetorical.  We both know you are liar like your queen who has absolutely nothing to back up your BS claim. "he still can’t manage to disagree with people without being disagreeable."  You need to look at yourself in the mirror and think about what you see before you say things like this.  I admit that I can be quite disagreeable because morons like you piss me off and I have no problem telling you that you are a fking idiot.  But I also don't go around and tell others how they are being disagreeable because I am not a complete fking hypocrite like you. "The parties are private organizations. They get to set the rules, "  Every now and then you say something that isn't complete BS.  The problem with this statement is that you say it as an effort to justify injustice.  Just because they get to set the rules does not mean that the rules are inherently fair.  They have nothing to do with one another.  For example let's talk basketball since it was just in the news.  Let's say the NBA decided to change the rules and that from now on Cleveland gets to start each game with 10 points (the NBA dubs them superdelegate points).  That is within their power.  They too are a private organization.  Some teams would even be able to win some games against them.  Would it be fair though?  Obviously not... unless you are dumb as duck. "lies about her."  Have I lied about her at all?  You might want to consider that she is called a liar because she is a fking liar.  It isn't just a right wing conspiracy.  And her being corrupt is also not a right wing conspiracy... she just is corrupt as fk.  She has no principles.  There is nothing she wouldn't say or do to be President.  She just says what she thinks people want to hear. "You, however, want the rules changed because your guy isn't winning."  No.  I want the rules changed because the rules are unfair.  I, unlike your queen, have principles that I hold regardless of how they might affect me or my candidate.  I am willing to accept losing but I am unwilling to accept cheating and unfairness. "Maybe you should stop blaming the DNC," and "It's not the DNC's job to help Bernie win." The DNC on May 26, 2015... "Our goals in the coming months will be to frame the Republican field and the eventual nominee early and to provide a contrast between the GOP field and HRC."  THAT'S ON MAY 26 2015!  They go on to say, "Use specific hits to muddy the waters around ethics, transparency and campaign finance attacks on HRC."  Yup, it wasn't the DNC's job to help Bernie win... it was the DNC's job to help Hillary win. And that wasn't according to me... that was according to THEM you ducking idiot. I suspect you might be one of their paid operatives. This also isn't just some conspiracy theory.  POS David Brock thinks that this is good politics and has spent over a million dollars paying trolls like you because he, like the POS he works for HRC, have no ethics.  For your sake I hope that you are being paid for your willful ignorance and are not really so ducking stupid. "Sanders supporters suggesting that polls point to him as the best nominee - is ridiculous."  The only thing that is ridiculous is you.  We are talking about EXIT POLLS.  Do you know what those are?  Are you smart enough to know the difference?  They aren't polls conducted a week before an election or something.  They are polls taken where people are voting the day of an election.  They absolutely should be in line with election results and when they are not something is terribly wrong.  Go to trustvotedotorg to learn more.  From them, " when exit poll data varies more than 2% from electronic vote totals, the electronic vote totals are questionnable. If fact, 2% is used as the boundary by the US government when determining that the election in another country other than the US has possibly been stolen."  Discrepancy in favor of Clinton from exit polls on March 1, 2016; Georgia 11.9%, Virginia 4.3%, Vermont 1.1%, Mass 8%, Alabama 13.9%, Tenn 8.3%, Oklahoma -6.1%, Ark 5.2%, Tex 6.4%.  That is what we are talking about.  Something is clearly wrong with this picture unless you are a blind moron who either actually thinks we are talking about polls conducted before an election, or more likely the more I think about it, just a POS muddying the water so that hopefully others won't be able to see the truth. Duck you.  You suck at life.  I've wasted so much more time on you than you deserve.  I'm done caring what you think or have to say.  You are a lost cause and not worth any more of my time. Good luck with your POS candidate. You deserve each other.
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