Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Adam Carolla’s Misogynistic Obsession With AOC Too Much For Hannity" video.

So you agree with AOC that people only criticize her because they want to bang her? What is wrong with you people?
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She has real power in the form of her votes... like the one she used to make pelosi speaker and she got jack shit from it. AOC and sam are controlled opposition and they are leading you to slaughter.
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@TheJumpsuitJack More like true or you would have some sorta intelligent argument to try and combat it.
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@TheJumpsuitJack Or maybe you are like sam "I don't care" sedar.
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@TheJumpsuitJack "around personal feelings" Is that what me talking about AOC's unforgivable voting record sounded like to you? Is this really how you want to mindless ignore her record? Is this how you want to ignore the fact that sam doesn't care about things a real progressive should care about? "What's there to debate?" Just admit you don't care like sam already has.
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@TheJumpsuitJack "AOC's one vote" That's not her only inexcusible vote but it perfectly shows how she squanders the power she does have and acts in complete opposite to the values she claims to hold. These are AOCs own words that she has on twitter this very moment... " Sometimes it’s to get members on the record, so ppl can’t make excuses later. Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments. Sometimes we vote for the historical record - to let future generations know we did everything we could." She's also the same person who said that she wouldn't vote for nancy for speaker before she got in office. If you want to defend her how about you at least start with this one vote and then we can move on to her other inexcusable votes. "Sam is personal" LMFAO No. It's not. It's again another example of someone whose actions betray the values they claim to hold. It's evidence that he's a fraud in the same way aocs actions betray her. "It's opinion" Yes. It is. It's the opinion you come to when the values you actually hold and care about are protecting your cult. At best it's a biased opinion to try and maintain his access to AOC. At worst he is straight up controlled opposition whose job it is to sheepherd people into a corrupt party. He might pretend to care about their wrongdoing from time to time but that's only to get the sheep to trust him when he tells them all to vote for them when it matters most. "He's a commentator, not someone with similar power to goverent officials." Thanks captain obvious. Those are words even if they offer nothing of value to the conversation at hand. "knows exactly who Sam is" He's a sheepherder who will tell you to vote blue no matter who. He doesn't care about these people at all. At the end of the day he only cares what color jersey they are wearing. He's a hack. "Your personal beef is irrelevant." So according your "logic" that would mean you have "beef" with me? Then it too is irrelevant. "You probably aren't a "real progressive" in my eyes." I want universal health care, money out of politics, to give peace a chance, to break up the banks, reparations, free college, freedom of speech, freedom to decide what goes into my body and more. I also don't really care if you think I'm not a progressive or not. It's more important to me that you realize that people like sam and AOC are frauds, because they are.
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@schmoborama "“what goes into my body” LOLOL there it is." To be clear you think that the government should get to tell people things they have to put into their body? You probably think trump is an authoritarian but it really doesn't get anymore authoritarian than that. "freedumb to give covid19 to as many ppl as he possibly can," The jab doesn't stop people from getting or transmitting covid dipshit. "thinks you’re not a real leftwinger unless you also want our hospital system to collapse under the weight of an unvaxxed public." Seems like the problem is that there aren't enough beds. But those extra beds aren't very profitable. "Do you also claim the right to shit while you’re in line at the dmv?" Sam really cultivates some of the most intellectually dishonest MFers I've met. It's very cultlike.
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@miac.4806 "They know she is a threat." A threat to vote in lock step with all the other corporate dems. She's a fraud.
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@nothingtoitbuttodoit "it's Jackson Hinkles burner account" Is that what you want to go with? Sam cultivates probably the most intellectually dishonest community I've ever come across, and I've talked to flat earthers.
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@nothingtoitbuttodoit Am I talking to sams burner account? You still mad hinkle got you to say the quiet part out loud? That you don't care about their shit record?
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@TheJumpsuitJack "Get a grip." Sam cultivates probably the most intellectually dishonest crowd I've ever come across. That, and comments of yours such as this, make it hard for me to take you seriously. That said you managed to sprinkle in some things that I don't think were downright terrible so I'm going to do my best to address them and ignore all the dumb BS like this. "Your problem seems to be you put too much faith in the political mechanisms of America and the political mainstream." I've made this mistake many times in the past but I don't think I don't this much anymore. I've been fooled to many times and I'm on to their game. "plan on peacefully prying power and wealth away from the capitalist class in the dramatic fashion" The truckers show a perfect way we should be doing this. "overthrow capitalism" I'm not sure this is a reasonable goal but I'm still happy to try to do this. People have to be mad. Sam puts people to sleep. "the planet on a more equitable, sustainable path" This problem is too big for me. I don't have "faith" in science but I am hopeful that people smarter than me can figure this out. "social collapse" I am absolutely not saying this is my goal but I also don't see this as something I absolutely need to avoid. Sometimes something needs to burn down so that something better can takes it's place. I'm not saying I think it would be better if "society" collapsed but I am pretty much over capitalism. And there would be no easy way to transition off it. "ideas" Make sure everyone is as mad as they should be... and use that anger to pressure the oligarchy. Make them fear our pitchforks (in a symbolic way, I'm a pacifist). "anticapitalist" This was mostly why I'm answering. I do consider myself this. "logic behind the speaker vote" It's really not complicated. Nancy needed their votes to be speaker. Use that leverage to get something of value for progressives. Asking for a vote on m4a makes sense. It was during a pandemic. Let people voting against health care pay the price after the fact. And they would. It didn't need to be that. But it absolutely should have been something. "alternative" If dems don't cave then noone is allowed to be speaker and the country debates the topic. Let them explain why they aren't even willing to even VOTE on m4a during a pandemic much less give you m4a. That it's that important to them. Let them pay the price after the fact. My allegiance is to m4a and getting it.... not to politicians or a party.
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@TheJumpsuitJack "I can tell you're from one of those pseudo-left communities like Dore." I can't tell if you are paid to make smears like this or just a useful idiot. " Because you've clearly never read any theory" Does it matter that I have? This seems like lazy stupid ways to avoid all points I made. Me: ""anticapitalist" This was mostly why I'm answering. I do consider myself this." Your response to that: "you seem averse to any serious anti-capitalist rhetoric." You don't seem very serious to me. "So anti-dem yet never once do I hear any coherent ideology based in Marxism, much less a stated adherence to Marxism." I'm sorry I'm not using all the labels you think I should. I personally find all the labels distracting and try to focus on the ideas behind them. Me: "The truckers show a perfect way we should be doing this." You: "We're gonna pressure the oligarchy with our mean words" I was wrong to take you seriously, even if only for a moment. "not sure you're able to grasp this: global capitalism is diametrically opposed to anything that means losing their grip on power. " I'm not sure you are able to grasp this: I've never said this isn't the case. You are arguing against a strawman and wasting my time. "Neoliberalism will break fascist and America will be ruled by fascists before you will "pressure" congress to get M4A" If you say so. "Revolution" I'm a pacifist or this is probably what I'd be advocating for. But I am a pacifist so... do the math. "protests like in Canada?" If you think actions like this don't help then you are DEFINATELY part of the problem and not someone I take very seriously. "Did you ever leave your house in 2020 and attend the myriad of large protests?" Let's say I didn't but only spent my time "protesting" as a "keyboard warrior." Who let my voice be heard in only that way would that really be the devil? Or does it only count if you are on a street corner using your freedom of speech? "the US is a police state on the verge of fascism!" LMFAO Are you really trying to blame this shit on me? As if it's my fault we can't have nice things? Meh. Somehow, someway I still think I will find the strength to sleep like a baby tonight. I know that I'm the victim and not the problem even if you do not or are pretending that's the case for bad reasons. "Pelosi won by like 10-15 votes" Meanwhile, in reality, the vote was 216-209. Are you lying to people? Politically illiterate? Or lazy and stupid? "McCarthy would be speaker" To be speaker of the house you need a MAJORITY of the votes in the house. Mccarthy can't get that unless dems vote for him. If no one gets a majority of votes no one is speaker and they do it all over again until someone is. Let's say that happens.... a debate starts about m4a during a pandemic and it's merits as people are made to answer for the side they are picking. Sam lies about mccarthey being a possibility. It's not. I mean... hypothetically dems could be out sick one day and only republicans show up for work. They have a majority and vote him in. So what. Dems still have a majority and can kick his ass out immediately for someone else when they actually choose to show up for work. You are wasting my time. I'm done with you.
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@TheJumpsuitJack So when I'm commenting here it's dumb. When you do it it's fine because of hypocritical reasons. And when I tell the truth I'm being stupid but when you are straight up lying to people "Pelosi won by like 10-15 votes. And if she lost, McCarthy would be speaker. Not "nobody," it's fine. All righty then. "How old are you? And how long have you been politically engaged? Really weird lack of basic knowledge." You are suffering from dunning-kruger. Do everyone a favor and STFU.
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I wish morons like you would call her out for how she uses the power she has... aka her votes. Go back to sleep. Let sam convince you that republicans are the problem when dems have literally all the power.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 Yeah. That doesn't mean that so called "progressives" don't have deciding votes in must pass bills. That means they have leverage. Leverage they have squandered to get jack shit for the people that are suppose to be on their side. They were suppose to be different than the corporate dems but instead they are voting in lock step with them. They are just as full of it as the corporate dems. They played you.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "They don't have leverage at all." Meanwhile, in reality nancy pelosi needed their votes to be speaker. Stop listening to sam's BS. He's lying to you.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "corporate Democrats wouldn't be getting away with everything" Actually they are getting away with everything because the so called progressives are sellouts and frauds.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 Sorry not sorry if the truth hurts.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 I see you got a "fuck joe manchin" playlist. Sam might virtue signal and tell you how mad joe manchin makes him but at the end of the day when it matters most sam will tell you you should be voting for joe as long as he is the one representing your cult in a general.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "Progressives don't have control at all." They have control of their votes. And they use their votes to act just like the corporate dems. Actions speak louder than meaningless words. If it votes like a corporate dem it's a corporate dem.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "You're being truthful" You got one thing right at least.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "Manchin... is too powerful" So you are able to understand that a single senator has power and leverage because of his deciding vote but fail to understand that the squad has any power or leverage when pooling their deciding votes? Are you being intentionally obtuse?
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "Progressives were against..." So how did it pass?
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "The rest of the Democrats voted for the gutted" Fair enough. I concede they did not have deciding votes in this specific instance. Why did AOC vote for pelosi? Because that example is different.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 So why did AOC and the squad vote for her?
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 You just showed how joe manchin had power and leverage because of his deciding votes. AOC and the sqaud had it here. What did they get for it? Manchin got the world.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "kevin mccarthy" He couldn't be speaker unless dems voted for him. Sam is just lying by suggesting he might have been speaker.
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 "There weren't other other Democrats to challenge Pelosi" They could have wrote my name if they needed to. Stop with the excuses. " is a coal baron millionaire," LMFAO Is that why he's powerful? And not because of his deciding votes? What is this? How about an answer to my simple and direct question... what did AOC and the squad get for their votes for nancy as speaker?
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@anibalhyrulesantihero7021 So what did AOC and the squad get for their deciding votes? Oh right... nothing. They sold you out.
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Sam and his crew are controlled opposition and they are leading you to slaughter. They would tell you to vote for donald trump if he represented their cult and say it's for "harm reduction" or because he's "less evil."
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@scruffopone3989 Ad hominem and nothing else, how predictable from sam's sycophants. Were you always intellectually dishonest like this or did you learn the behavior from sam?
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