Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Jimmy Dore Losing Fans Over His Pivot To Anti Vax Content" video.

  1. "He's OBVIOUSLY just grifting" How many billionaires are paying sedar these days? Last time I checked it was 3.
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  2.  @Dos_Caffeine  "do you know what a grift is?" Yes. It's that thing shit libs like sedar do. "It means holding no real positions" I've watched jimmy for a long time. He has consistently been for things like: universal health care, giving peace a chance, getting money out of politics, and more. Just like me. His positions have been clear and consistent even if we haven't agreed on everything over the years.
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  3.  @scruffopone3989  You know who doesn't question things? Cults.
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  4. "Both are losing followers." I can only think you are intentionally lying which makes sense for people watching sedar.
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  5.  @scruffopone3989  It's what science does.
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  6.  @scruffopone3989  "No, Science asks questions" LMFAO You are literally proving my point. Yes. Science asks questions.
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  7. The deep state is a way to describe unelected officials in government who persist over decades in government. It's hardly a conspiracy to talk about them. Only a person brainwashed by watching too much sam sedar would attempt to deny that they exist like this.
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  8.  @alabamaman8885  "hurt the Democrats" I don't care. I'm not talking about the party. I'm talking about the goal of getting universal health care. That's what I care about. That's where my allegiance is. Not to some corrupt party. "As a progressive, I highly doubt you do." It sure AF aren't corrupt POS like pelosi or bootlickers for the party like sedar that's for damn sure.
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  9. Because he interviewed someone? You act like he joined them FFS. Clowns like you are impossible to take seriously.
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  10.  @scruffopone3989  I thought the story you sedar clowns went with is that he talks about force the vote too much? Try to keep your BS stories straight at least.
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  11.  @scruffopone3989  "they're not the same" LMFAO Force the vote is literally about universal healthcare. You can't be anymore intellectually dishonest if you tried.
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  12.  @scruffopone3989  "anti-vaxx and anti-mandate are effectively the exact same thing" I don't understand how anyone can buy your BS. It's remarkably transparent.
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  13. "he would probably support a US coupe." LMFAO When you have to make up your smears you don't have a legit gripes.
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  14.  @davidowens2067  I get it. You have no intelligent argument to make whatsoever. You have ad hominem, nothing else, and talking to you is an epic waste of time.
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  15.  @davidowens2067  Dore has always been against war and you are just a tool spouting BS.
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  16. "he would probably support a US coupe." FYI that is you making shit up even if you aren't smart enough to realize it or intellectually honest enough to admit it.
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  17.  @scruffopone3989  "What Jimmy does is ask questions with prepared answers that support his worldview." Newton had the audacity to ask questions about gravity because of his "worldview." Einstein asked if space and time are linked because of his "worldview." What's the alternative? Should we be spending our time entertaining all the ideas that don't make sense to us? Is that what you do? Is that how you get to making so little sense with literally everything you say?
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  18.  @scruffopone3989  You are impossible to take seriously.
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  19. I guess there aren't enough billionaires giving sedar a check to make you wise up.
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  20.  @stevencoardvenice  I'm "anti-death penalty." You know how you can tell? I'm against the death penalty. ALWAYS. That's what being "anti" something actually means. You accusing jimmy being "anti-vax" is nonsensical. It would be just as nonsensical if you accused someone of not supporting the death penalty if they merely thought a single person should not be put to death but still wasn't against the practice in all cases... you know... like I am. I'm actually anti-death penalty. I'm the type of person you could describe that way. Not someone who merely has a critique of the death penalty but still thinks people can be put to death by the state.
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  21.  @stevencoardvenice  "Your attempt to defend him is nonsensical." This isn't an argument. It's ad hominem and nothing else. Ironically giving ad hominem and nothing else is nonsensical. If you actually had an argument that made sense I suspect you would give it. I think it's telling that you don't even attempt to offer one. "Are you vac cinated?" This doesn't affect you so it's none of your business.
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  22. Sam Sedar is the type of POS that MSNBC feels comfortable putting on air. He is controlled opposition.
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  23. MSNBC would never allow Dore on air. He actually challenges the oligarchy's BS.
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  24.  @scruffopone3989  "he spends the vast majority of his time being mad about AOC or Ilhan Omar" FYI dems have all the power at the moment. That's why you should be focused on them dipshit. "whining about vaccines giving him an upset tummy." Just like a sedar sycophant to nonsensically frame authoritarian mandates in such a way.
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  25.  @scruffopone3989  "going after the Senate Dems that are holding everything back. I wonder. Why he doesn't do that." He literally is. AOC had real power with her vote for speaker and used it get literally NOTHING of value for progressives. "I love how Jimmy's fans are basically just small boys who can't accept any public health policy" I love how you just mindlessly handwave away what is clearly authoritarian policy. You think you can tell other people what they have to put in their bodies. You don't. But you would have made a good nazi.
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  26.  @pathofzeros  "the deep state made me do it!" That's not what I'm saying. I suspect that even you get that but are disingenuous. I'm saying that you can stop putting "deep state" in quotes like that. It's a real thing that exists. "thank you for guiding me to clarity" I'm not hopeful that you have the self awareness needed for such a thing.
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  27.  @pathofzeros  "this conspiracy" The deep state is not a conspiracy dipshit. It's something that actually exists.
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  28.  @Dos_Caffeine  "it's a conspiracy" Nope. It's a thing that actually exists. It's just a way to describe unelected people that spend decades in government shaping our lives. They are completely unaffected by whether or not democrats or republicans have power. Their jobs are unaffected by such things.
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  29.  @Dos_Caffeine  If you deny their existence you are just denying reality and are demonstrating you are not to be taken seriously. We can disagree about some things. Whether or not a deep state exists or doesn't is not one of those things. It clearly does.
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  30.  @pathofzeros  "when you're back to reality, maybe you can have actual conversation" This is funny coming from someone who wants to deny the existence of nonelected government officials who spend decades in government regardless of what party is in power. "I'm not into conspiracy" Don't kid yourself. You aren't into reality.
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  31. Rogan is a pundit who has no real power. Long story short you are using the word "bootlicker" wrong.
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  32. An example of a correct way to use the word would be: sam sedar is a bootlicker for the democratic party.
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  33. I've never respected sedar. Or his sycophants.
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  34. LMFAO Last time I checked sedar was getting checks from 3 different billionaires.
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  35.  @Dos_Caffeine  "used to work with TYT." Sedar didn't just "used" to work with TYT. He does right now. I'm sure this bothers you very much right? I'd hate to think you are a hypocrite.
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  36.  @alabamaman8885  "Forcing the vote is almost always political suicide" If forcing a vote would bad for the cause pelosi and company wouldn't be willing to fight tooth and nail to stop it. Hell, if it would actually hurt the cause they would bring it up for a vote themself. They do everything they can to not vote on it because everyone knows it obviously would be good for the cause. "It's a Republicans wet dream." So republicans are trying to bring it up for a vote because it would be bad for the cause? Oh right... they aren't.
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  37.  @alabamaman8885  "attack their own allies" I'm confident I have a much better idea who is actually on my side than you do.
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  38.  @alabamaman8885  If the party burnt to the ground so that something better might replace them that would be a bonus. But getting universal health care is really what I'm fighting for and what I really want as an actual progressive.
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  39.  @alabamaman8885  "Forcing the vote is bad for Democrats." If the party actually cared about winning elections it would give people health care. But their job is to maintain the status quo, not win elections. "which is your party dude" Since when? George Carlin said it best back when it far harder to see it... they don't give a f about you. At all. "take over the Democrats" I thought that was a good idea back when justice dems were being created. That was BS. I'm more in line with the thoughts of people like chris hedges and richard wolfe who see the party as dead and as only an obstacle for change. The oligarchy will only give the peasants just enough crumbs to keep them from picking up their pitchforks. And the peasants are too busy wasting their lives on their cell phones to even think about picking up a pitchfork.
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  40.  @alabamaman8885  "Herbert Marcuse" I've honestly never heard of him. He sounds smart thou. Maybe I should. "completely reject progressive ideology" As a progressive I want things like: universal health care, giving peace a chance, breaking up the banks, protecting the environment, criminal justice reform, money out of politics, freedom of speech, freedom to decide what goes into my body, and more. This are all widely popular ideas with the peasants. The war that matters is between the top and the bottom... not the left and the right. The elite divide us into a left and a right to get us to fight amongst ourselves. That way we don't blame the powers that be, like we should.
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  41.  @alabamaman8885  "get rid of the all the idpol nonsense" Are you talking about identity politics? I'm not bringing that to the table. That's just another tool the elite use to try and divide the peasants. It can't possibly be gotten rid of because there will always be disingenuous people using it to divide. I can only call them out and I already do that.
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  42.  @alabamaman8885  "Until progressives let it go y'all be on your own." That sounds like today. Literally none of the people I follow and listen to treat this as important. They all recognize it's just another tool the elite are using to divide the peasants into camps so that they are easier to conquer. "calling more than half the country 'racist fascists'" You are talking about corporate media pundits. They are not progressives. They are elites. Brian williams essentially did this in his going away speech recently. Jimmy dore called him out for it.
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  43.  @alabamaman8885  "Most progressives..." Don't paint with huge brushes like this. "I'm not disagreeing with your assessment on why this happens" Then it should be easy to know who to blame.... and it's not the peasant being propagandized and pit against you. I get that it's not easy. I get called a "commie" and crap like that. But I know that the peasants are not really my enemy even if lots of them are useful idiots for my real enemies.
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  44.  @palestalemale1779  "when you say you’re pro vaccine but just don’t want to take THIS vaccine, you’re being anti vax." So you need to be willing to take all vaxs to not be anti-vax? What a joke. Fun fact: the word vaccine was recently redefined so that this "vaccine" could be called one.
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  45.  @ndb9248  "I would still call Jimmy Dore an "anti-vax-mandater" as opposed to an "anti-vaxxer". Would you be able to explain where I'm wrong?" Don't sweat it or expect an intelligent answer from pale. You are clearly correct.
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  46.  @robsreality  Understanding the world in which you exist is the first step in changing it.
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  47.  @MichaelAronson  "He hasn't pushed back on Tucker once." You must live in an alternate universe. I live in this one. The one where tucker carlson said: "I didn't use to think that and now I do because you convinced me through the force of your argument." He said that while talking about pardoning assange.
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  48.  @MichaelAronson  "provided an example of them agreeing," It's like you are going out of your way to intentionally miss the point that they didn't always agree. That dore used tuckers platform to move him to the correct position. You clearly don't care about the world in which you exist. You have an agenda.
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  49.  @MichaelAronson  "They do now" Yup. Because when you were saying, "He agrees with Tucker on everything. He hasn't pushed back on Tucker once." You were full of it and lying. "rightwing" I'm talking about freeing assange and you are acting like that's "right wing." You sedar sycophants can't be anymore intellectually dishonest if you tried. Were you always like this or did you only learn it from sam?
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  50.  @MichaelAronson  "Jimmy Dore is now a rightwing" I want things like: universal health care, giving peace a chance, money out of politics, criminal justice reform, to protect the enviornment, to break up the banks, freedom of speech, the right to decide what goes into my body, and more, just like jimmy. I guess I must be rIgHtWiNg tOo.
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  51.  @MichaelAronson  "you were saying," I told you exactly what I was talking about it wasn't that. Me telling you what I'm addressing, " "He hasn't pushed back on Tucker once." That's me telling you what I'm talking about. I can only think you are pretending to not get it. "This is still true." Your lies are transparent. They didn't always agree on if assange should be free or prosecuted. Then dore made his case on his show and tucker changed his position. Those are the facts and you lie about them because you are not an honest person. "politicians does Jimmy Dore support" I don't care what conmen jimmy chooses to support. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about policy. I can tell you one thing thou... if someone can actually be found supporting and fighting for universal health care, (pandering does not count. Trump after all could be heard saying things like "everyone needs health care.") Jimmy would support them. If AOC actually withheld her vote for pelosi and used it to demand that m4a be brought to a vote you can damn well be sure jimmy would support them. Instead we dems have control of everything and it won't even be voted on.
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  52.  @MichaelAronson  "this is still correct" It's forever a lie. If jimmy never actually pushed back on tucker then tucker would still advocate that assange be persecuted. Instead he advocates that assange should be pardoned. Because of jimmy. You are a disingenuous liar and this is a waste of my time.
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  53.  @MichaelAronson  "This means Jimmy Dore could claim something" Jimmy claimed assange should be pardoned. "Tucker disagrees" Tucker didn't. "Jimmy doesn't push back. He has literally never pushed back." Jimmy pushed back. Tucker changed his position. And you lie about it. It's not even a good lie. It's transparent.
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  54.  @MichaelAronson  "Correct. You finally got it." You must be trolling me right? "so they agree on everything, like I said" All you need to do to claim this is ignore the reality in which you exist and ignore the time when they didn't agree on assange. It was before jimmy pushed back and changed tucker's mind. What a POS you must be to lie about this.
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  55.  @MichaelAronson  Me: this is the exact time and place when and where they didn't agree. You: "so they agree on everything, like I said." You are a joke.
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  56.  @MichaelAronson  You lying: "You only quoted Tucker saying they presently agree" Me actually quoting tucker: "I didn't use to think that and now I do." To be fair I'm taking tuckers word for this. I don't actually watch his show. But according to tucker jimmy has changed his mind and he would know better than you. Tucker is a liar but he is still more credible than you. "My point is that Dore never pushes back, because he doesn't." My point is that you are liar because according to tucker dore changed his mind about assange. "that would not be an example of Dore pushing back" Dore literally changed his mind about assange according to tucker. You are a joke of a person with an agenda.
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  57.  @MichaelAronson  "That's not an example of pushing back." I can't take you seriously enough to keep responding to your BS. You are a joke.
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  58.  @MichaelAronson  If you want to know what jimmy dore going on tucker actually looks like instead of lying about it I recommend the youtube video titled: "Jimmy Dore Brings Anti-War Message To Fox News!" It really shows how rightwing jimmy is as he spreads his message of giving a peace a chance on tucker.
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  59. ​ @MichaelAronson  "You have to actually attempt to show why your opponent is wrong." Tucker literally conceded that dore was successful in accomplishing this. And that dore's arguments won him over. You are a joke. Or let me put ask you a rhetorical question... why does tucker now think that assange should be pardoned? Because of jimmy and his arguments according to tucker. That's the fact. Another fact: you are a joke.
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  60.  @MichaelAronson  "It looks like two rightwingers" Rightwingers talking about peace? I guess I'm a right winger too then. You are a joke with an agenda.
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  61.  @MichaelAronson  "agreeing with each other." Agreeing that jounalists should be protected and not persecuted. I guess I'm a right winger too in your world where facts don't matter.
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  62.  @MichaelAronson  "Show me an example of Dore pushing back against Tucker." I don't watch tucker and I sure AF am not going to watch it for you. Even if I did you would find ways to ignore a smoking gun. I'm already admit I'm talking tuckers word for it and according to tucker jimmy changed his mind. "Of course you are." LFMAO Of course you say this. Only shitlibs like sam and you are on the left am I right?
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  63.  @MichaelAronson  "without a shred of evidence" This is true if you ignore the fact that tucker said jimmy changed his mind. But he did so there is that and it's evidence. Obviously.
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