Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Useful Idiots" channel.

  1. Gore won florida in 2000 and bernie won the iowa caucus and not mayor pete. This is the second time I'm trying to post this cause the first try was immediately taken down in the "land of the free."
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  2. Ro is just another corrupt politician.
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  3. The fact that nobody in the comments section buys ryan grim's BS really restores some faith in humanity for me.
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  4. Grimm's job is to manufacture consent for corrupt politicians.
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  5. Can you imagine how corporate media would cover this if it were russia doing it?
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  6. Ryan Grim's job is to manufacture consent for corrupt politicians.
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  7. But has she thought about it as a corrupt politician?
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  8. And the same to ryan grimm, but sarcastically.
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  9. I support free speech, ALWAYS. Edit: as long as you aren't hurting someone else with your speech. So no defamation, no threats, no yelling fire in a theater and the like.
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  10. Of course one of grimm's sycophants would use the word "butthurt" unironically like that. Thanks for the laugh.
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  11.  @JayBee-cr8jm  You stand with apartheid and jennyside.
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  12.  @danielpincus221  I'm surprised you believe obvious propaganda lies.
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  13. This channel loses credibility when it has ryan grim on and doesn't challenge him for his BS.
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  14.  @PEZ1514  Yes. Sorry not sorry if the truth hurts.
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  15. Isn't chompsky that guy who thought people who don't get jabbed should starve?
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  16.  @nitrologly  Great point. All replies are being shadowbanned. It's like they are trying to prove my point for me.
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  17.  @pkia898  There are still people alive in gaza... til then it can get worse. Not that it really matters... don't support evil. Period.
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  18. Sorry not sorry that we just realize that grim is controlled opposition and we are calling him out for it.
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  19. If you tell people to vote for either major party then you are not "independent" in my opinion.
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  20. "You gotta vote biden." -david sirota in 2024
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  21. The problem starts with the letter z and it's not a religion.
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  22. Shmilbert needs someone to describe mur der as "unfair stuff." Because that's their idea of being fair.
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  23.  @JayBee-cr8jm  All of them... including yours.
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  24. You would be better off having on ANY random peasant than this tool of the oligarchy on.
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  25. "he’s an honest actor" LMFAO He's not. And that's why everyone questions why he's here.
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  26.  @JayBee-cr8jm  Do you always defend jennyside? Or just when israel does it?
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  27. Anytime someone brings up the fire I'm pointing this out.
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  28. Didn't dave vote for Trump? How is that libertarian?
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  29. Great guests.
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  30.  @tonyclifton2230  "What's your point." Even you must realize their point right? "He explains" Actions speak louder than meaningless words. He's part of that problem who shields politicians from criticism. For example when jimmy was talking about forcing the vote grimm was giving BS about how it might lead to mccarthey being speaker.
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  31.  @oceania2385  "produces beggars" Isn't substance abuse... it's capitalism.
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  32. Shame
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  33.  @eFPronouns  I'm thinking it's one of grim's burner accounts.
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  34.  @tonyclifton2230  "Ryan gives good analysis." You don't even attempt to address my point about his lies about mccarthey become speaker. You are as disingenuous as him.
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  35.  @tonyclifton2230  " I don't need to address your point." This sounds like something ryan grimm would say. Is this a burner account of his? Just ignoring my point doesn't make it go away ya know.
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  36. At least one that is... they have usually visited both but got rejected by one.
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  37. Cross really won me over in the long interview.
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  38.  @voccsaycee30  "absolutely clueless" This is what's known as "projection" in psychology.
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  39.  @voccsaycee30  "you know a label." And most importantly I use them correctly. I don't use them to mindlessly to smear the way you do.
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  40. Shark propaganda is strong. There is an entire week dedicated to demonizing sharks every year.
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  41.  @smolderingtitan  Let's say we were talking to harvey weinstein and he was making "good points," would you care about those points? Or would you care who is saying it?
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  42. I think that "palestine" is still a name given by imperialist. It should probably be something different. Then again I don't care if it's called "israel" as long as it's a free state and not an apartheid.
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  43.  @dashx1103  "because of a grudge with a certain podcaster" No doubt it's easier for you to strawman the argument instead of addressing our actual problem with him... that he's a liar who manufactures consent for corrupt politicians.
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  44.  @bullsonparade687  It's like they aren't even trying anymore.
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  45.  @twandendulk5723  "The Russian ruble keeps rising, hitting a seven-year high." -the new york times
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  46. "The war in Ukraine has nothing to do with rail workers or labor rights in the US." Maybe if the US wasn't spending all it's money on war it might be more willing to use it's money on it's own people... OBVIOUSLY
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  47. I don't know. I feel like we were already at peak dystopia when chompsky was saying that people who didn't get vaxxed should starve.
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  48. Whoever contributed to grim's rug get's third, ryan is fourth.
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  49.  @williamcole1069  "feel asleep" You are lucky then. I've heard of far worse things happening.
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  50.  @wuhaninstituteofvirology  "which contradicts his entire life's work" Yup. Let's not act like he didn't do that then shall we?
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  51.  @voccsaycee30  I noticed you deleted your other terrible thread where you were rationalizing mur der. Good for you. It shows self awareness I didn't think you had.
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  52.  @tonyclifton2230  "He just told you how the system works." I'm already well aware of how the system works. That's how I'm able to call out frauds like grimm. "You don't get that kind of insight out of jimmy dore." Jimmy dore not only knows how the system works but he's proposed ways of changing it.... like force the vote, which grimm was spitting on.
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  53.  @TheGrinningViking  They really could if they wanted. But they choose this. They choose to deflect, distract, and look back. Anything other than addressing the current state of affairs.
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  54.  @larchlarch9851  If you can't understand that grim is a tool of the oligarchy used to manufacture consent for them then I pity you.
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  55.  @larchlarch9851  "Ryan Grim is all about integrity and good journalism." Meanwhile, in reality, ryan writes propaganda like, "CHUCK SCHUMER EYES A SECOND SHOT AT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE THROUGH RECONCILIATION" so that people will chuck credit for "something" while he actually does NOTHING about raising the minimum wage.
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  56. I'm ok with that.
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  57. Just accept that the party and the people in it LIKE MARIANNE don't care about you.
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  58. You'd think he would avoid wind with that rug on his head.
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  59.  @Salina-qd6es  Chomsky is highly overrated. I think he spent too much time with epstein and it showed in his analysis later in life.
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  60.  @alveolate  "israel has" nukes
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  61.  @dashx1103  You listen to too much propaganda from sirota rationalizing your support of evil. I legit think trump is the lesser evil. But I don't vote for evil. Period. And neither should you or anyone.
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  62.  @wuhaninstituteofvirology  "the greatest american dissent" Isn't he that guy who thought people who don't get vaxxed should starve? I'm pretty sure he is and I'm pretty sure that makes your comment nonsensical.
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  63.  @tonyclifton2230  "He co wrote manufacturing consent." Which makes him manufacturing consent for the elite all the more despicable. "Vote blue no matter who" -noam chompsky
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  64.  @Nerwesta  "we should work further to prevent them from biting humans." We don't work to educate people much less sharks in the US. But good luck with that.
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  65.  @volourn9764  "no proof otherwise" "Bush wins, Gore wins -- depending on how ballots are added up" In the age of information ignorance like yours is a choice.
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  66. This is just a reminder that dave was a sheepherder for trump.
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  67.  @abe8435  "you can agree with that" I could but I legit have no interest in what he has to say. I have better things to do than listen to controlled opposition... like calling them out. That's a far, far, far better use of my time. Don't you think? "Since you don’t do that" I'm making substantive points about him being controlled opposition. I'm making points why that's important. If that's not enough for you that's on you... not me.
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  68.  @abe8435  "you aren’t actually making any substantive points about why Grim is controlled opposition at all." Sad you need them. Grim told you not to force the vote on m4a. Grim writes articles like, "CHUCK SCHUMER EYES A SECOND SHOT AT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE THROUGH RECONCILIATION" which is meant to manufacture consent for chuck as if he's doing something about minimum wage while he actually does nothing at all about it.
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  69.  @larchlarch9851  "that's just right wing propaganda." This isn't an argument. It's just ad hominem. "Don't be a shill for them." And you are using it to shill for ryan grim. Which is really funny.
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  70.  @tonyclifton2230  "all you can think of is. Ryan bad." Yup. The source matters. Would you use this kind of "defense" if we were talking about jeffrey epstein? 'here jeffrey is making a good point and all you can think of is how it's jeffrey.' -you, probably
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  71.  @tenzinnordron9836  Lucky for us that aaron didn't want to disappoint his dad and went into the youtube video business.
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  72. A visit to epstein island maybe.
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  73. To expose him.
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  74. Aaron Mate is my headliner.
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  75.  @tonyplow9882  "Not sure if he would say the same thing at this point" I've got a dollar that says he tells you to vote for the blue team in 2024 assuming he makes it long enough.
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  76.  @tonyplow9882  "it likely won’t come up if nobody asks him." Let's say I used to think people should starve and die but now I've changed my mind about it... I wouldn't wait for people to ask to let them know I've come to my senses.
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  77.  @dashx1103  "please point to Chomsky's quote of "vote blue no matter who."" I'm pointing at his actions. He tells you to vote for the dem nominee every election no matter how terrible their candidate. "It's a reasonable take" 1) It's not reasonable 2) He is manufacturing consent for corrupt politicians by doing it. "It's a reasonable take" It's just as unreasonable as people who voted for trump knowing he was terrible but did so anyway because of biden. Together they all ensure the country circles the drain forever.
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  78.  @RKZX2  I suspect that grim is being funded by some billionaire who is invested in that type of surgery.
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  79. "MLK" MLK knew you needed justice. And you can only have justice when perpetrators have been punished.... aka brought to justice.
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  80. The US government always gets just enough votes to pass bad legislation and a few votes to little to pass anything good. "the don't give a f about you. AT ALL!" -george carlin
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  81.  @ExpatZ266  I'd rather vote for planet killing meteor than them.
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  82.  @tonyclifton2230  "there is no pressure for politicians" He will likely note how grimm has consistently shielded those politicians from the same pressure ryan thinks will do anything. He will point out ryans lies on behalf of those same politicians.
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  83.  @peterstafford4426  I thought about asking why you are triggered but then I realized I don't care.
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  84. "it's hate for their oppressive government." Maybe spend more time worrying about your own oppressive government.
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  85.  @peterhardie4151  I like katie but she really is "boutique left" and lacks real revolutionary spirit. "Chris Hedges" She is no chris hedges even if she interviewed him.
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  86.  @twatts1523  Dave is 'part of the problem.' That's my point. Obviously.
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  87.  @solgato5186  "Calling someone "controlled opposition" is not making a point," LMFAO Of course it is. Just handwaving it away like you can accurately be called, "not making a point."
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  88.  @abe8435  "calling him a tool of the oligarchy" He gets a check from MULTIPLE billionaires.
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  89.  @dashx1103  "Abstaining wasn't gaslighting." It is. And you are. "threatening to abstain was the ultimate cutthroat move." Abstaining is taking the power you have and throwing in the trash. Abstaining makes them as powerful as I am on the issue and I don't have any power. "abstain would have gotten a floor vote" There is no reason to think this. "Too extreme?" The strategy of voting for a person who would bring m4a to the floor every single time would already have been extreme enough. I don't care if they had to vote on speaker one billion times. I already hold the "extreme" position as you advocate for giving away all the power they had.
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  90. We gotta expose the people who lie to us like grimm because he won't be the last one to try it.
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  91. What else are they doing? That's my way of saying they can't. Or at least that they choose not to.
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  92.  @ryanlott1108  " I'm wondering is why they had him on." I like to think it's to have him get roasted in the comments like he is but I don't know. And I really don't care. As much as I despise him I'm ok with him having the ability to express himself.
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  93.  @slammajamma5435  I'm going to assume that it was just EXCELLENT sarcasm.
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  94.  @larchlarch9851  "ditto" LMFAO Wait... that wasn't sarcasm. LMFAO
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  95.  @dashx1103  "He's a good journalist" He's not. And you don't even attempt to address my points. " haven't known him to "lie."" So you believe that chuck shumer is working to raise the minimum wage? That he was legit trying to use reconciliation a second time to raise the minimum wage. "point out the examples if you wish." Maybe address what I've already given and you can get more if you want.
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  96.  @captserenity8154  "why change the script?" It seems really transparent at this point. "Americans haven't called them out for any of their other lies" I mean, we all know that WMD in iraq was BS don't we? Even corporate media has conceded that.
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  97. If you don't talk about something light hearted on occasion you will lose your mind.
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  98. You don't actually believe this right? Even you know it's BS?
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  99.  @dashx1103  "Jimmy" This isn't about jimmy no matter how much you want to try and make it about him. "Grim" He lied about mccarthey could be speaker. He fear mongered that it was possible and it wasn't to try and cast shade on force the vote. He's a liar. Period. And nothing you say changes it.
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  100.  @dashx1103  "You are confusing Grim with someone else." Nope. I'm spitting nothing but facts.
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  101. Your comment is funny because I don't doubt you are paid to say it.
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  102. No lie. She is more likely to praise the job he is doing as commander in chief than criticize him for it.
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  103. Stop trying to make williamson a thing before she inevitably tells you to vote for biden.
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  104. Both have written books.
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  105.  @signsofbias  You: "getting warmer for over 8 thousand years?" Also you: "the medieval warm period it was actually 5 degrees hotter than it is now?" You can't seem to keep your BS straight.
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  106. He's talking about family and loved ones and you are labeling it "material things" like he's talking about a car. It's dumb AF.
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  107.  @TinaSindichakis  Did you vote for trump like dave told you to?
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  108. It's not over yet. And it's the first time we have superpowers on opposing sides even if the US is mostly just using ukranians to do it's fighting for them.
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  109.  @wuhaninstituteofvirology  " who is the greatest american dissent vs. american imperialism in history" Isn't he that guy who is blue no matter who? Didn't he tell everyone to vote for biden? And american imperialism?
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  110.  @tonyclifton2230  "at least pay some heed on both them issues" The exxon CEO is happy with biden's "climate" bill. Is that what you are referring to?
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  111.  @InfoForYou8  "it doesn’t decrease his other contributions." I'm pretty sure that when the author of manufacturing consent manufactures consent for the elite that DOES diminish that book and that person.
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  112.  @dashx1103  "you are just wrong on that" Just one example in his 500 years on the planet when he told people not to vote blue in a general election... prove me wrong if you can.
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  113.  @dashx1103  "Fans concede what?" That noam thinks the unclean, aka the unjabbed, should be ostracized from society.
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  114.  @twandendulk5723  How is buying power with the dollar going? I have to pay about twice what I did for everything this time 2 years ago.
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  115.  @scottwaggoner223  No I haven't read RT this morning. You could always cite what you are talking about like have or rightfully be ignored.
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  116. "Why exactly should Ukraine cede any of it's territory to Russia in exchange for them to stop their aggression against them?" You answered you own asinine question... to stop their aggression against them.
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  117.  @Nerwesta  To be clear my previous responses to you were not serious. Don't get me wrong I'm not for killing sharks... it's just that I feel like there are far bigger problems and I'm not going to single out sharks for saving in a world where some species are going extinct.
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  118. Biden has always been evil but at least back then he was coherent.
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  119. Bernie has sold you out. Just accept it.
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  120. Liz Cheney is Abraham Lincoln in her own mind.
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  121. Oliver sucks but it would have made more sense than endorsing trump.
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  122. You can't see how long the videos are before clicking on them? That's what I do.
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  123. Sounds like something Cornpop would say. Which biden? Will the malarkey meter do anything about my hairy legs?
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  124. "Dems in congress gave Dick Cheney a standing ovation." 'You still need to vote for dems because they are less cucked than the guy cheney shot in the face.' -some shitlib, probably
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  125.  @peterhardie4151  "It's just the most unkind reading of who she is." It's fact. Not everyone can be like chris hedges. And when you pretend that people like katie are like him not only are you lying but you are doing a disservice to the actual chris hedges of the world.
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  126.  @peterhardie4151  "It's just the most unkind reading of who she is." It doesn't mean she is a bad person or her heart is in the wrong place. It's just where you tend to end up when you don't have to worry about food on the table or about being able to go to a doctor.
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  127. I'm going to go rogue. Great work. I said it. Now hate me if you must.
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  128.  @abe8435  "Someone watching this video who isn’t as invested in social media drama as you would have no idea what you are on about." You can always ask instead of what you are doing.
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  129.  @dashx1103  "Democrats capitulated" No they didn't. They did exactly what they and their donors wanted to do. This is just more BS from grim.
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  130.  @dashx1103  "Democrats capitulated." If you were trying to prove my point that grim manufactures consent for dems you have succeeded. The parliamentarian works for the dems, not the other way around.
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  131.  @abe8435  And when I say grim is controlled opposition meant to manufacture consent for corrupt politicians I can cite articles like the one I already have.
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  132. Capitalism corrupts everything, especially war.
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  133. How dare you! /s
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  134. I don't like you. Free palestine.
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  135. Propaganda + complacency = Idiocracy
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  136. Sorry not sorry for having "hate" for the people who are destroying the world.
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  137. "This constant stream of hate" That's very hypocritical coming from the person who was just calling people, "butthurt."
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  138. You don't even attempt an argument. You are projecting.
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  139.  @dashx1103  "JD spun it" This has nothing to do with dore. It's pathetic you keep trying to make it about him.
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  140.  @dashx1103  "isn't tied to the JD enemies list" It's tied to grim's BS regardless of who is calling him out. It's just a lazy way for you to try and dismiss the arguments being made to you. It's lazy, pathetic, and transparent. "JD went out of his way to misrepresent the Schumer story," LMFAO You are impossible to take seriously. It legit feels like I'm talking to a burner account for grim. "omitting that Grim led with the fact that "Democrats capitulated to a staffer" in failing to get min wage the first time." LMFAO That doesn't make anything better. "Democrats capitulated" is just another lie from grim. The dems did exactly what they wanted to do. They didn't "capitulate" anything.
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  141.  @dashx1103  "I’ve addressed feeble points— which is all you’ve made." You haven't intelligently addressed a single point I've made. Not one.
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  142.  @dashx1103  "He was highly critical of Biden." That's how controlled opposition gains your trust before telling you to vote for him despite the fact that he's terrible.
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  143.  @dashx1103  "highly critical of Biden" This is completely meaningless. What matters is that he will tell you to vote for him.
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  144.  @dashx1103  "it was a rational position." Only someone who has listened to too much BS from people like ryan would think that voting for evil is "rational."
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  145.  @dashx1103  "therefore he's a shill" Just drinking mountain dew all the time doesn't make you a shill. You become a shill when you tell everyone else THEY need to drink it.
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  146.  @captserenity8154  "anger mixed with disappointment of my country." The feeling is mutual. It's nice to know at least a few people get it. This channel and the type of person it cultivates really helps restore my faith in humanity. And I need it.
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  147.  @chrispeck308  You: "I'm not ideologically tied to capitalism in any way." Also you: "I'm sure however many beggars are theoretically produced by capitalism, would be exponentially dwarfed by whatever hair brained idea youd come up with to replace it." You are tough to take seriously.
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  148. JFK: "Ask what you can do for your country." The MIC: "I've got an idea but I don't think you are going to like it. And by "idea" I meant bullet.
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  149. That would be the most human thing about him.
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  150. That's not how it works. And tens of thousands of people were being slaughtered in the donbas long before russia invaded.
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  151.  @TheBestLife2184  You are in a cult.
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  152. Imagine calling a bunch of unarmed protestors a "coup."
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  153.  @arimas1977  No lie. Thanks for the laugh.
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  154.  @signsofbias  "was hotter than it is today." Then maybe stop lying to people and saying, "the planet has actually been getting warmer for over 8 thousand years?" "might help you grasp this conundrum" LFMAO I mean you did give your own dribble a thumbs up so you must really be onto something.
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  155.  @beastmode6609  "selfish in order to protect ourselves and family" If you want to say that it's selfish to want to protect yourself that makes sense but isn't wanting to protect your family the exact opposite of being selfish?
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  156.  @magpie3794  And stop acting like the consequences for standing up against the machine aren't DEVESTATING.
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  157.  @magpie3794  "officials need to speak up, or quit when they see something wrong" We don't disagree about this. We disagree about how to go about it. We should be honest about what this means instead of pretending that everything tends to be just fine for the people that do. "What is happening to Snowden and especially Assange is horrific." Yeah. It is. That's the norm for people that speak up. So maybe let's not lie about it and say shit like, "Time to grow a spine." as if their spines aren't likley to be broken otherwise you are no better than the people using ukraine as cannon fodder. You are just asking people to sacrifice themself for YOUR political goals and you aren't being honest about what that means for them.
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  158.  @dashx1103  "Nothing wrong with that." Yes. There is something wrong with voting for evil. Stop saying there isn't. "And you can't tell other people how to vote." Have you told sirota that? That's literally everyone's problem with him... every election cycle he goes out and tells everyone to vote for the blue team AFTER telling you how terrible they are.
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  159. If you are getting smeared then you are doing a good job.
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  160.  @tonyplow9882  "Not sure if he would say the same thing at this point, but he was forcefully incorrect when he said that." I'd think that if he really had a change of heart on the topic he would make sure everyone knows it. You would know it if he did.
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  161.  @tonyclifton2230  "voting lesser of two evils" This is how you manufacture consent for voting for evil. I can only think the guy who wrote the book on the topic knows exactly what he is doing.
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  162.  @tonyclifton2230  "Democrats while pretty bad..." Tony thinks they suck but he's going to manufacture consent for them in the same breathe. Maybe read that book you mentioned.
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  163.  @InfoForYou8  "I’m just referring to your ad hominem ‘arguments’" You mean in your comment where you said, "Learn some logic," which is ad hominem?
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  164.  @tonyclifton2230  "are miles better" Are they really? Or is it merely their job to give you enough crumbs to keep you placated?
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  165.  @tonyclifton2230  "you don't seem to have an understanding of the book" If "understanding the book" leads me to vote blue no matter who and think that people who don't get the jab should starve I'm just going to have to learn to be ok with your interpretation. "I know it might have kept the rain off your head but you would have been wiser to read the book." That's not very nice of you to say. Where is E to talk about how ad hominem is bad?
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  166.  @InfoForYou8  "You can actually just email him" So could you then right? The people who want to think and claim that his position has changed? Why is this suppose to be on me? Especially when if his position has changed it wouldn't matter very much at all to me? It wouldn't take away the authoritarianism he previously displayed.
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  167.  @tonyclifton2230  "I am not saying biden is great" What's your favorite part of the "climate" bill? Mine is the part where they literally MANDATE drilling.
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  168.  @nicka731  "isn’t the flex you think it is" Neither are the non binding words and virtue signaling that is the paris climate accord.
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  169.  @tonyclifton2230  "Do you think trump would be doing a better job on the environment?" I think they are equally terrible enough that it's irrelevant between the two on the topic. "They were the two options?" You have infinite opinions when deciding who to vote for. I personally would prefer the option of using the ballot as TP as opposed to using it to vote for trump or biden.
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  170.  @tonyclifton2230  "Do you truly believe that?" Do you truly believe that biden is better? Even after your talking points on the topic were easily dismissed?
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  171.  @dashx1103  "if they become destitute" You are already talking about people who are destitute... and want to make it harder on them.
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  172.  @tonyclifton2230  "chance of winning." As if you can "win" with biden or trump. That's how you "win." LOL
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  173.  @tonyclifton2230  "it wasn't all bad" More people los t their liv es of c o v i d duri ng bid en.
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  174.  @teresasimkins5518  It's too bad you don't have the internet to do your own research. /s
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  175. "*Unpaywalled from 10.11.24*" -the title
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  176. Yang is controlled opposition.
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  177. If anyone should know what a coup looks like it should be the country that does them all over the globe. Jan 6 was no coup. And anyone claiming it is is not a seriously person.
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  178. I'll remember that if I ever come across someone bleeding out.
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  179. At peace I guess.
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  180.  @rowzdwr  "even incitement and defamation, should always be free?" Fair point. No. I am not including that and do not consider that free speech. As always your rights end where my rights begin. That's where the line is drawn and I should have been more careful with my wording.
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  181. "very serious" No. Income inequality is serious. Assange is serious. War is serious. Health care is serious. You are talking about an UNARMED riot.
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  182. Nuke Holmes has a nice ring to it.
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  183. Are you running for office? Or just a hypocrite?
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  184.  @kellielaine5848  Bernie sold you out to sell his book and to, in his own words, not get "nadared."
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  185.  @kellielaine5848  Are you running for office? Otherwise I'm not even suppose to be talking to you... according to you.
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  186.  @kellielaine5848  "advanced the blueprint for our quality of life." Actually he is voting in lockstep with corporate dems and his good friend.
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  187.  @kellielaine5848  Are you running for office? You should be with your ability to ignore, dodge and deflect questions while saying nonsense that just doesn't hold with reality.
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  188. "on the DEFENSIVE" Just typing things in all caps doesn't make it true. They are murd ering journalists. That's offensive.
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  189.  @rcarmisin3465  " Israel only retaliates" Is that how you rationalize the murd er of journalists? Maybe spare me your BS.
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  190.  @InfoForYou8  "left libertarian" I'm tired of people on the right trying to say they are on the left. Sincerely, an actual leftist.
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  191. Youtube says there are 3 replies but only let's you read 1. Isn't that the type of thing that is suppose to make china the bad guy?
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  192.  @kdnick8584  You don't think that is important to know and point out? Or are you just being intentionally obtuse?
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  193.  @kdnick8584  Are you sure it's that? Or are you just mad that she is being called that the way peter is?
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  194.  @kdnick8584  We all have biases and labels that accurately describe what we are. They are important. That's why we use them at all and why so many people try to MISUSE them like when biden calls himself "the most progressive" or other BS.
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  195. Didn't dave tell everyone to vote for trump? He is "part of the problem." Pun intended.
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  196. Grim is controlled opposition meant to manufacture consent for corrupt politicians.
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  197.  @compassioncampaigner728  "Body of work is an asset to mankind." Arguably. And that's probably why the asinine things he said hurt so much. "Acknowledge your criticism" Huh? "nobody is perfect" Yeah. Obviously. But when you are saying things that could be used to defend literally anyone no matter how evil it's probably not worth saying.
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  198. "literally prove the point" Except grim isn't "canceled." He's collecting checks from multiple billionaires to tell everyone to vote blue no matter who.
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  199.  @abe8435  "the classic tool of people who seek to keep the left weak and divided." I'm as far left as I you can go but that's not what's important. The war that matters is between the peasants and the elite. And grim represents the elite.
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  200.  @abe8435  "My point is you aren’t actually making any substantive points about why Grim is controlled opposition at all." Sad you need them. Controlled opposition tells you not to force the vote. Controlled opposition writes propaganda like, "CHUCK SCHUMER EYES A SECOND SHOT AT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE THROUGH RECONCILIATION" so that you can give chuck credit for the minimum wage despite him not actually doing anything to make it happen. Do you want more? "Someone watching this video who isn’t as invested in social media drama as you would have no idea what you are on about." Then ask. Instead of what you are doing instead.
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  201.  @abe8435  "now you actually made some substantive points" Meanwhile, in reality, I was always making "substantive points." "See the difference?" You wanted "evidence" in addition to the point. And I gave it to you. Do you see the difference between a "point" and "evidence?"
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  202.  @abe8435  "while not trying to cancel the person" What is "cancel" even suppose to mean? I support his free speech and everyone free speech. Just because I'm calling him out and just because I think useful idiots would be better off having ANY else on instead of him doesn't mean he should be "canceled" or I think he should be "canceled." "All it does is lead to endless fracturing and zero clarity" At the end of the day there is controlled opposition whether you try to call it out or not. But it's better if you do because if you don't it will destroy your cause of institution from the inside. Ryan isn't your friend. It's better you realize it.
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  203.  @dashx1103  "Democrats capitulated to a ruling by a Senate staffer, the body’s parliamentarian, the first time around" Which is also BS. The dems didn't "capitulate," they did exactly what they and their donors wanted them to do and they used the parliamentarian and stenographers like grim to do it.
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  204.  @dashx1103  "Democrats capitulated to a ruling by a Senate staffer, the body’s parliamentarian, the first time around." Which is another lie. Dems did exactly what they and they donors wanted, they used the parliamentarian to justify it, and they used propagandists like grim to sell it.
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  205.  @dashx1103  "Democrats capitulated" Another lie. They did exactly what they and their donors wanted.
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  206.  @dashx1103  "Democrats capitulated" Another lie by grim. They did exactly what they and their donors wanted to do.
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  207.  @dashx1103  "Democrats capitulated" You are making my point why grim is terrible. If you listened to him you might actually believe this BS. His job is to manufacture consent for corrupt politicians and those 2 words prove it. The parliamentarian works for the dems.... not the other way around.
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  208.  @dashx1103  "Democrats capitulated" It's like you are trying to prove my point for me that grim manufactures consent for corrupt dems. The parliamentarian works for the dems, not the other way around.
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  209.  @abe8435  "You weren’t making points. Just assertions." LMFAO An assertion is an example of a point. "Get it?" I have receipts for everything I say. For example when I say grimm is a tool of the oligarchy, which yes, is an assertion, and my point, I can back it up with the fact that he gets paid by multiple billionaires.
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  210. When you say, "this level of paranoia feels astroturfed" I can assert that you are silly. And my evidence of it is corporate media. Whom all sane people are "paranoid" that they do not actually have our best interests at heart.
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  211. "this level of paranoia feels astroturfed" So am I wrong to be "paranoid" that corporate media is gaslighting me? Because I'm confident I'm right to think that. And I'm correct to think that of grim for all the same reasons. MSNBC brings him on for a reason.
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  212. "I like how all the comments cannot even begin to engage with what Grim and Halper are discussing and are just centered around bs about their authenticity." The bottom line, whether you agree with people like me or not, is that we think ryan is controlled opposition. We think he is part of the problem. We do not think he is authentic. And we have really good reason to think that. Since that's the case it makes perfect sense that we are going to call him out and spend our time questioning his authenticity instead of acting like we think he's an honest actor.
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  213.  @abe8435  "I think you might be right about him being controlled opposition" So it really shouldn't be too hard to understand why that's what I care about... and not what controlled opposition is saying ATM. "your evidence is really more inference and conjecture than proof" I don't have a smoking gun... other than the fact that he gets paid by multiple billionaires and billionaires don't tend to pay for things working against their interests. "It’s enough to say he’s wrong about “force the vote”" Not really. He wasn't just "wrong." He gaslight. " is overly impressed with Democrats," At the end of the day he will tell you to vote blue no matter who. And the rest of it up until then is just details to get there and to try and give him some credibility when he says it. "agreeing with him when he’s right is probably more productive" I don't deny he says something correct on occasion. It's just that I'm not going to spend much time giving him credit for it when I think he's only doing it to try and get people to trust him before he tells you to vote blue no matter who.
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  214.  @abe8435  "When you attack his character rather than his ideas" I do both.
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  215.  @abe8435  "I think you might be right about him being controlled opposition," I wrote you a much longer response to this that's being shadowbanned because of course it is. If you can't see it in your notifications let me know and I'll try to rephrase it enough that it isn't censored.
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  216.  @abe8435  "He’s just not that important." Sadly he is. Him and people like him are partly how the elite manufactures consent for themselves. "Democratic Party" People like him are how they get any support. "the argument being made by the host and guest is correct," I legit don't even know what they are talking about in this clip although I have watched the full interview. "hope it gets across to people who hadn’t thought of it" If you listen to ryan grim unironically I hope I've given you something to think of. I'm not here to address anything he said here nor do I pretend to want to.
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  217.  @abe8435  "who Grim is" You are missing the point. This isn't about him specifically. It's about people like him who manufacture consent for corrupt politicians. He's an example of it. He's an example of corporate media but he's trying to do in the "independent" area. " don’t think most libs even know who Grim is" They should. Katy should. And if they don't I'm going to tell them.
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  218.  @abe8435  "better to attack his arguments, because there can always be more water-carriers for the Democrats" Nope. It's better to go after how they carry water so that you can tell when the next person like grim comes around... and you clearly know they will.
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  219.  @abe8435  "relentlessly attacking Grim and whoever else just becomes a game of whack-a-mole" I'm trying to tell you how you know what a mole is and what isn't. The establishment is always going try and mislead you and it's important to know how they do it. For example you keep saying that grim said only good things in this clip. Maybe he did. But that's how he gains your trust before telling you why you need to vote for corrupt dems.
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  220.  @abe8435  "You should speak to them privately" LMFAO Who do you think I am? One of the billionaires who pays him? "alienate a potential ally" You think he was going to support m4a until I said mean things about him? That sounds more like the type of excuse controlled opposition uses to try and rationalize not doing the right thing.
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  221.  @abe8435  "There’s plenty of controlled opposition besides Grim right now, and more every day." Yup. It's like you are trying to make my point how important it is to try and call it out. And to show people how to recognize it. But somehow you are using it to claim the opposite. It's silly. "what does it matter if you and a minority of people know who’s authentic and who isn’t?" You really don't understand why it's important to know if your source is legit or controlled opposition? Really? "you have to make coherent arguments" LMFAO I'm confident I have been doing that from the very start. "not just name-call individual" While I have "name called" that isn't the only thing I've done.
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  222.  @abe8435  "I pointed out you had no evidence" I have evidence. And I've given it to you after you asked for it. Just because i didn't lead with it doesn't mean I don't have it and haven't provided it for you. "Who cares?" I do. And so do you. Or why are you here? If you don't care? "You think Halper reads these comments?" Yes. I do. But maybe she doesn't for all I know for certain. "You think anyone who doesn’t already agree with you is persuaded by such content-free insults?" You say this like I haven't given you receipts when you asked for them. Do you think you are persuading anyone with this? "what he says in this clip has nothing to do with that." I just got done telling you that I don't even know what's in the clip. I straight up admit I don't care about it. "So you have to raise the level of the discourse" Is that what you think you are doing with this? LMFAO "you’ll just feel smug about calling out phonies and that’s all" I can lead a horse to water but I can't make em drink.
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  223.  @olorin1710  "Chris Hedges" LMFAO I say literally the same things as hedges. I'm sure you call him an "anarchist" too no matter how silly it is.
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  224.  @olorin1710  "Imagine what they say about Donald trump, rep Crenshaw, Taylor Greene, AOC, rep. Bush," I say the same things about these people for all the same reasons I call out grim. "It's a big club and you ain't in it." -george carlin, fellow "anarchist."
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  225.  @olorin1710  "too bad you dont get it" How about you try to explain it then? Instead of what you are doing? "because CNN hates on both of them????" LMFAO So? Do you want me to tell you the, many, many, many ways they are different? What is your point?
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  226.  @tonyclifton2230  Thanks for making my point about how grimm, "won't be the last one," not that it was necessary.
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  227.  @tonyclifton2230  "defaming" Those are lies. I don't do that. I leave that to people like ryan and you.
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  228.  @tonyclifton2230  "see this is the problem." You are impossible to take seriously. "It's pointed out..." It's pointed out that grimm is liar and you just ignore it. "You would rather listen to jimmy dore" Because I don't catch him lying on behalf of the powerful. "Would rather cut people down than do anything useful." You sound like grimm during force the vote. "Utter nonsense." This is funny all things considered. Thanks for the laugh.
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  229.  @tonyclifton2230  "I asked you of his lies." No. You didn't. You are so intellectually dishonest you are even lying about this. "no actual examples" I've mentioned his lies about mccarthey possibly being speaker if dems tried to force the vote and you haven't even attempted to address it anywhere. "I also asked you about that and what to do when the vote was lost." You did. "You dodged that like the matrix also" The answer seemed so obvious I didn't even bother. Even AOC knows the answer even if she doesn't act like it. These are AOC's words on the topic, not to be mistaken with her actions, "Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments. Sometimes we vote for the historical record - to let future generations know we did everything we could."
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  230.  @tonyclifton2230  "I asked you of his lies." I hope you are paid well to lie, just like grimm is paid well for his.
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  231.  @tonyclifton2230  "I asked you of his lies." No you didn't. You are even lying about this. But I have mentioned grimm lies that mccarthey might become speaker if dems forced the vote. You haven't even attempted to address it.
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  232.  @tonyclifton2230  "I also asked you about that and what to do when the vote was lost." The answer was so obvious I didn't bother. Even AOC knows this. This is from her twitter telling you the plan, "Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments." And why do we do it? "Sometimes we vote for the historical record - to let future generations know we did everything we could."
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  233.  @tonyclifton2230  "this is my whole point you are calling him a liar." Interesting way for you to admit that you never actually ask for his lies... that when you said, "I asked you of his lies," that was actually just you lying.
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  234.  @tonyclifton2230  "I asked you of his lies." Was a lie. I backed it up with evidence. And you have NOTHING.
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  235.  @tonyclifton2230  "you do realise..." I realize that you are a liar just like the person you are trying to defend.
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  236.  @tonyclifton2230  "concentrate on the phonys" LMFAO I am. And you are one of them.
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  237.  @tonyclifton2230  "can you answer the question" I can. But I have no interest in dealing with a person who demonstrates they have no intellectual honesty.
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  238.  @tonyclifton2230  "can you answer the question" Can you answer mine? When you said, "I asked you of his lies" you didn't actually ask for his lies had you? That was a lie was it not?
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  239.  @tonyclifton2230  Bonus question, when you said, "I asked you of his lies," that was after I already mentioned his lie that mccarthey might become speaker if they forced the vote right? So why were you pretending that I hadn't already given you one? That you didn't even attempt to address? But you think I should have given you more? So that you could do what... ignore them too?
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  240.  @tonyclifton2230  "Your a jimmy fan alright." Yeah. I don't like frauds and liars. Sadly they are all around.
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  241.  @tonyclifton2230  "yeah I am a phony." While you are, and proving my point by not answering my simple and direct questions, this isn't an answer to anything I actually asked. "I'm a phony." You are a liar. And this short thread proves it. If you can't get your facts straight your opinions (that you are likely paid to have much like grimm) are rightfully ignored.
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  242.  @tonyclifton2230  "I asked you of his lies." Not once have you even used a question mark much less asked me a question. You are a liar just like grimm who lied that mccarthey might become speaker if we tried to force the vote.
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  243.  @colmlarkin8665  That's why they are here with their propaganda.
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  244. God doesn't exist and neither will israel in the future.
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  245.  @tylerd1297  Everybody clings to when their team says something good... nevermind the fact that their team are run by liars.
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  246. @ "not blindly endorsed him" Yes. He did.
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  247. I want more people who are pissed at this country. They should be.
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  248.  @whoopsie890  "having the MAGA Q-Anon people take over" Like there was any possibility of that happened. LMFAO "speed up fascism" It's already here. Your democracy was dead a long time ago. Maybe realize it.
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  249. Speak for yourself clown.
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  250.  @JohnAllenRoyce  "Constant stream" of hypocrisy from you
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  251.  @JohnAllenRoyce  "Constant stream" As for my "hate" I save it for the elite, where it belongs. And don't have it for the majority of people who are peasants.
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  252.  @Bisquick  "does anyone wanna highlight why?" Simply put, he manufactures consent for corrupt politicians. "with anything specific" Let's say it was only super general... like he's part of the corporate media, who collects a check from multiple billionaires wouldn't it be enough? If you take issue with the world and are looking for people to blame then politicians and their propagandists are a good place to start. "does decent reporting" LMFAO "who cares?" The peasants who realize that their problem isn't other peasants. And you. Or why are you here defending him? " it's always "his bullshit"" Do you ever wonder how terrible people are able to gain power? They do it with help from people like grim.
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  253.  @Bisquick  "what bullshit?" He spends his time on twitter blaming peasants and he spends his "professional" time manufacturing consent for the elite. For example his article titled, "CHUCK SCHUMER EYES A SECOND SHOT AT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE THROUGH RECONCILIATION" it's meant to try and manufacture consent for chuck shumer, as if he's doing something about raising the minimum wage.
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  254.  @larchlarch9851  If you can't understand that ryan grim is shill paid by multiple billionaires to manufacture consent for the oligarchy then I feel sorry for you.
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  255.  @dashx1103  "because of a grudge with a certain podcaster" It's actually because he's a shill for the elite. Because he uses lies to manufacture consent for them. No doubt it's easier for you to strawman the actual argument thou.
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  256.  @larchlarch9851  "that's just right wing propaganda." This is what you say when you don't have anything of substance to back it up. "Don't be a shill for them." This is funny because you are shilling for ryan grim. "Ryan Grim is all about integrity and good journalism." Grim writes articles like, "CHUCK SCHUMER EYES A SECOND SHOT AT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE THROUGH RECONCILIATION" So that simpletons like you will give chuck credit for "something" while he isn't actually doing anything to raise the minimum wage.
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  257.  @dashx1103  "I don't believe Schumer is working to raise minimum wage" So ryan lied, even according to you. As for the rest of your wall of text I'll assume you find terrible ways to rationalize that lie but don't really care what they are.
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  258.  @dashx1103  "He lied about what?" "CHUCK SCHUMER EYES A SECOND SHOT AT RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE THROUGH RECONCILIATION" ryan grim BS In reality chuck shumer is looking for ways to stop a raise in the minimum wage and is finding convenient excuses like the parliamentarian to not raise it.
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  259.  @dashx1103  That was you who said this right, "No. I don't believe Schumer is working to raise minimum wage." It's almost like you too think ryan grim was lying.
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  260.  @dashx1103  "The Dems didn't surrender?" Yup. They never fought. "Refusing to overrule the parliamentarian wasn't capitulation?" LMFAO They wanted their employee to do exactly what they did. That's why they were there, in that job. The parliamentarian works for the dems, not the other way around.
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  261.  @dashx1103  "The Dems didn't surrender" The dems are the boss. The parliamentarian works for them. This would be like elon musk telling people that he "surrendered" to his secretary and hid behind that to claim he couldn't do something. It's transparent BS and it's absurd. Elon is the boss. At the end of the day the decisions are Elons. Elon can fire his secretary and get someone to do what he wants just like the dems decide who their parliamentarian is.
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  262.  @dashx1103  The parliamentarian works for the dems. To claim the dems can't do something because of them is asinine. It's like elon musk claiming he couldn't do something because his secretary forbid it.... as if he isn't the boss. As if the decisions aren't ultimately his. It's silly. And only someone who listens to far too much ryan grim would buy it.
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  263.  @dashx1103  "It is kind of funny." The only thing that's funny is that this is all you have in response to my comments. "I’m going back and forth between this and another Halper segment" I don't know why you think this is funny, why you are bring this up when it has nothing to do with what we are talking about, or why you think I care about anecdotes. "I’m defending Aaron against feeble accusations about him." LMFAO Is that what you think you are doing with this response? Is this you "defending ryan grim from feeble accusations?" But you aren't saying anything of value. You aren't even attempting to address my points. I hope you are doing better defending aaron than that. Like maybe make an argument... or are you just telling everyone how you are here defending ryan grim? As if that would be a point there?
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  264.  @dashx1103  "I’ve addressed feeble points— which is all you’ve made." Projection 101. "solely on failing to support force the vote" This is simply not true. "an article that doesn’t say what you claim" I didn't "claim" it said anything. I quoted it's headline. "You’ve claimed that Grim is condemnable as a journalist, but you’ve made no case for it." Was I misrepresenting his claim or was I not making an argument? At least pick a disingenuous lane and stick to it. "Other than to assert accusations" That you don't refute.... "regurgitate what some podcast claims." Except when you are deflecting to talk about jimmy when this isn't about him. FYI giving your own comment doesn't make it any better than it is. It only shows your disingenuousness.
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  265.  @dashx1103  "I’ve addressed feeble points" Also, no, you haven't. You ignored my point about the parliamentarian. "No. I don't believe Schumer is working to raise minimum wage." You agreed with my point that schumer isn't actually trying to raise the minimum wage. "solely on failing to support force the vote" While I did bring up force the vote and it wasn't my only problem with him this is all you did to "address" that point. Lastly you don't even attempt to address my point that he's paid by multiple billionaires. You have successfully addressed ZERO of my points.
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  266.  @dashx1103  "He was highly critical of Biden." That's what controlled opposition does before it tells you to vote for him despite the fact that he's a corrupt POS. "it was a rational position." Only someone brainwashed by too much sam would think that voting for evil is rational.
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  267.  @dashx1103  "he’s a “good journalist” or not." Good journalists aren't shills for corrupt people and corrupt parties. But good luck with your BS. I hope you don't actually believe it. I hope you are only paid to say it.
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  268.  @dashx1103  "He didn’t favor the “correct” candidate? That makes him a bad journalist?" It's makes him a shill for corrupt politicians just like the people working at fox and all the of corporate media.
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  269.  @dashx1103  "he voted for between two terrible candidates just doesn’t define whether he’s a “good journalist” or not" Good journalists call out terrible politicians. Shills like sam tell you to vote for terrible candidates.
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  270.  @dashx1103  "he voted for between two terrible candidates just doesn’t define whether he’s a “good journalist” or not" He didn't just vote for him... he told everyone else to vote for him. Good journalists call out corrupt politicians. Shills like sam tell you to vote for them.
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  271.  @dashx1103  "who he voted for between two terrible candidates just doesn’t define whether he’s a “good journalist” or not" This isn't about who he voted for.... this is about him telling everyone else then needed to vote for a corrupt politician. What do you think controlled opposition does if not that?
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  272.  @dashx1103  Good journalists call out corrupt politicians like biden. Shills like sam will tell you to vote for them.
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  273.  @dashx1103  "And there it is." Yes. There your intellectual dishonesty is. Me: "He tells everyone THEY need to vote blue no matter who." You: "He didn't vote like I wanted him" "therefore he's a shill" LMFAO That's what shills do.. sell their product. At the end of the day his product is corrupt dems.
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  274.  @dashx1103  "therefore he's a shill." Let's say someone told me to drink mountain dew. That would make them a shill for mountain dew just like grim is a shill for the corrupt dems.
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  275.  @dashx1103  Grim tells everyone to "drink" the dems at election time. Therefor he's a shill for them. That's EXACTLY how it works.
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  276.  @dashx1103  "Hilarious. "He reported bad stuff about the guy I don't like. But he decided that guy was the lesser of two evils -- so he must be a 'shill.' If he doesn't vote the way I do, he's definitely a shill." Dear god." You are using quotation marks wrong. That's my polite way to say that you are lying.
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  277.  @dashx1103  "so he must be a 'shill.'" He tells you to vote for them every general election. That's why he's a shill. And the rest is just meaningless details.
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  278.  @dashx1103  He actually: grim is a shill because at the end of the day he's blue no matter who. He'd tell you to vote for donald trump if he were represent that team because that's what he ALWAYS does. That's why he's a shill. And just because he occasionally tells you how he thinks the dems are bad to gain your trust before telling you to vote for them... it's textbook controlled opposition.
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  279.  @dashx1103  "he decided that guy was the lesser of two evils -- so he must be a 'shill.'" If someone is telling you to vote for evil they are shilling for evil... at best. At worst they are pure evil.
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  280.  @dashx1103  You know how I can tell bernie sanders is a shill for joe biden? He told everyone to vote joe. That's how it works. That's what the word means.
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  281.  @dashx1103  And I know grim is a shill for the dems not because he votes for them.... but because he tells everyone else they need to vote for them. That's how it works. That's LITERALLY what the word means.
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  282.  @dashx1103  "Was it while he was reporting on corruption at the Mountain Dew plant?" LMFAO Would that it make it better? That he's telling you to drink something after telling you about the sludge in it?
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  283.  @dashx1103  "Was it while he was reporting on corruption at the Mountain Dew plant?" 'Mountain dew is TERRIBLE for you. Now go drink it.' -ryan grim, probably
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  284.  @dashx1103  Correction, I should have said, "Mountain dew is TERRIBLE for you. Now go drink it. -ryan grim, *if mountain dew paid him to say it
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  285.  @nicka731  Great comment nick. That's why it's being shadowbanned. Land of the free am I right? /s
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  286.  @dashx1103  "It was a "rational" perspective." Millions of people voted for trump knowing he was terrible but they are brainwashed into thinking they need pick one of the major parties. There is nothing rational about the perspective. It's supporting evil.
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  287.  @dashx1103  "It was a "rational" perspective." That "perspective" is how they get you to support evil. This is how they play you. Jimmy dore just did a great video titled, "Democrats Are FUNDING Radical Republicans" exposing what they do and why they do it. Grim enables the behavior. JD does good journalism by calling it out.
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  288.  @dashx1103  "Good v evil." LMFAO Yup. There is actually evil in the world. All the bad happening isn't all by accident. Some of it's by design by people that want it to happen. But if you don't think someone is evil they can't be evil I guess according to you. You don't even need to consider the possibility or attempt arguments I guess. You can just laugh it off. FYI this is but one reason among many why I've never taken you seriously. I'm not talking to you. I'm only talking at you.
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  289.  @dashx1103  "That is a "rational" perspective." You seem to think that anyone who has an "argument" is being "rational." Are flat earther to you? Because they have "arguments?" It's not. That's not how it works. It's just another example of you NOT being rational.
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  290.  @dashx1103  "ONLY rational perspective." 'People who think the globe isn't flat aren't the only people with rational perspective.' -dash x, probably
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  291.  @dashx1103  "I certainly understood people who acknowledged that Biden sucked, but sucked less than Trump." Actual rational people don't care who is worse because neither should get anyones vote. It's like trying comparing maxwell and r kelly to figure out who sucks more. Ultimately it doesn't matter who is worse because you shouldn't be voting for either.
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  292.  @dashx1103  "I certainly understood people who acknowledged that Biden sucked, but sucked less than Trump." So do I "understand" why they do it. But that doesn't mean it's ok or "rational." They are voting for evil, making the world worse, and not acting logically. Voting for good is actually what acting logically looks like. Voting for evil is not.
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  293.  @dashx1103  "I almost took you seriously for a minute." You don't take me seriously because I call out grim? But you take people seriously who vote for evil? Millions of people knew trump was terrible and voted for him anyway because they thought he was "less evil." Those are the types of people you take seriously. Who you think are acting "rationally." People who vote for terrible. FYI I call out those trump supporters the same way I call out biden supporters. I don't care when they think trump is "less evil" either.
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  294.  @dashx1103  You: "That the way we think is the ONLY possible way to think." Also you: " I almost took you seriously for a minute." I'll leave you to think that yours is the only way to think... and for you to do it really hypocritically.
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  295.  @dashx1103  "believe there is ONLY ONE rational perspective" I'm not addressing every perspective. I'm only addressing the one that supports evil. And yeah... supporting evil is not rational. And the only people who claim otherwise are evil trying to convince good people to support them and useful idiots for evil. "Deciding on who to vote for in an election isn't remotely the same as recognizing the world isn't flat." You are "rationalizing" supporting evil. I'm not saying it's the same. But I am saying it's arguably just as dumb when it's broken down. " I'd like to think you know that and are just trolling now." Think whatever nonsense you want. I know you will at the end of the day. "your own BS" LMFAO I'm here saying don't support evil and the people enabling it. You think that's BS? "I notice you still haven't answered my questions." Wait... what? I'm doing my absolute best to address every point you are making as you make them. I'm tempted to go back and count the many questions of mine you haven't answered but that list is going to be way too long for me to want to do it.
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  296.  @dashx1103  "it has nothing to do with Grim." Grim is a tool of the dems. He writes articles to manufacture consent for them, like the one I've already cited.
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  297.  @dashx1103  "it has nothing to do with Grim." You seem to think grim is a "good journalist." I wanted to show you what good journalism actually looks like. Grim is more of a stenographer for people in power.
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  298.  @dashx1103  I've said my peace and wasted too much time addressing you. I'd done. Good luck with your BS. I hope you are paid for it like grim is paid for his.
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  299.  @dashx1103  "you ignore all the serious commentary and reporting Grim did/does regarding Biden, the Dems, the DNC, the DCCC, etc. Why?" I don't ignore it. I know that even propagandist networks such as CNN and FOX do "decent" reporting on occasion. That's how they get anyone to believe they are on their side before they sell them out. "Doesn't suit the narrative, and isn't discussed in your echo chamber." You want me to admit that grim doesn't say 100 percent terrible things. It's true. I could say the same about donald trump. It has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. It's just you deflecting. Me: "grim manufactures consent for corrupt dems" You strawmanning the argument actually made to you: "Ultimately, this seems to come down to the fact that Grim apparently thought voting for Trump was worse than voting for Biden." Ultimately everyone is going to have an opinion about who is worse between the two. It doesn't matter. This is about who you should vote for. And you shouldn't vote for evil. The notion that you need to pick between the two major parties is just BS the major parties use to keep them in the system. And they use propagandists like grim to do it. "You've compared Grim holding that opinion to believing the Earth is flat." What I was doing is known as "reductio ad absurdum" in philosophy. "Which pretty well discredits you." You are projecting. And your lack of knowledge discredits you. And I'm foolish for continuing to waste my time. "an opinion you've co-opted from someone else" What a pathetic and lazy way for you try and dismiss the points being made to you. It's what you say when you don't have substantive arguments to make. "Pretending your opinion is fact" If you vote for evil you are enabling and supporting evil. That's not my "opinion." It's fact. And nothing about it being the "lesser" evil changes it.
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  300.  @InfoForYou8  I admire your persistence but question why you make replies to yourself instead of just making one post.
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  301.  @InfoForYou8  I don't have the passion for your topic that you do. I'm more interested in giving peace a chance, protecting the environment, providing health care, getting money out of politics, criminal justice reform... I guess if you force me to pick a side I'm on yours. But it's just not very important to me in all honesty. Sorry. But good luck. I admire the passion and encourage you to go where it takes you.
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  302.  @InfoForYou8  "I encourage you to check them out" Maybe another time. You wouldn't think that nuclear war should actually be a possibility but sadly I don't rule it out with the psychos controlling things. Raincheck.
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  303.  @InfoForYou8  "IP laws are the main cause" Nah. Money and greed are the main cause of all the problems IMO. And money in politics is the problem that makes all the other problems seemingly impossible to solve, including yours.
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  304.  @anomanderrake96  "attention span lasts for a month." That seems like a really long time. I thought a person's "attention span" was measured in minutes.
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  305.  @anomanderrake96  I looked it up and it actually said 8 seconds is the norm. We were both giving americans attention span far too much credit.
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  306.  @krausewitz6786  Nobody here is going to take you seriously.
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  307. I know right. The generic brand is like half as much! /s
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  308.  @dashx1103  It knocks me out. When I take it I try to stay up cause it's kinda trippy but I'm always out in 30 mins.
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  309.  @Fokadas  "waste time on light hearted crap" If you don't get some "light hearted crap" you are going to turn into a real arce no one will want to be around or talk to. "These two idiots." Maybe go away if that's how you feel. You don't need to be here.
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  310. MAGA and blue MAGA are both cults.
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  311.  @krackerr  "Marianne seems genuine at least" Then at best she is too naive to run in a corrupt party. At worst she is just another lying politician trying to dupe you for your money and vote. "doesn't awnser my question." Yeah. I'm trying to do you a favor and steer you away from a corrupt party and person while you seek for bad reasons and ways to try and stay in it. "The public need to pull some France style protests and make some changes." Yeah. And we shouldn't be wasting time and energy working to change a corrupt party. Maybe spend that energy on a new party or ANYTHING else.
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  312.  @JayBee-cr8jm  Israel just bombed another child. And you are complicit.
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  313. I agree with everything you say except that MAGA is centered around a single guy.
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  314. "Every reasonable person knows" Sadly they do not. Even "reasonable people" can be propagandized. That's why they do it.
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  315.  @laurenbrillante89  I have family member who buy the BS. They are reasonable under normal circumstances. But they are brainwashed.
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  316.  @laurenbrillante89  If people didn't buy the BS in mass numbers there would be revolution.
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  317.  @chrispeck308  "capitalism" Cares about money and nothing else. "would be exponentially dwarfed..." I propose housing is treated as human right not that you care. Money ruins everything and capitalism is trash.
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  318.  @chrispeck308  "All they need is housing." That is not what I said. That is but one example for an economic model known as socialism. I suspect if you had something to say about the things I've actually said you would have gone with that rather your "sophisticated" strawman argument. "Have you ever spent any time with the down trodden?" Yes. "Their problems are way deeper than housing" True. They are living in a sick society that has been corrupted from top to bottom by money and it's influence. They live with a for profit health care system that cares only cares about making money and would actually prefer to have an unhealthy society to make money from them rather than very healthy unprofitable people. "it's beyond laughable to think that's the solution" I'm not going to lie this is hilarious from a big fan of capitalism such as yourself. "Do you think offering a completely useless ideological diagnosis of the problem" I'm confident it's better than shilling for capitalism like you are. "followed by an obviously ignorant solution, suggests that you somehow care about those at the bottom?" Yeah. For one I acknowledge their suffering under the current capitalistic system and seek to change it while you are here advocating for the status quo and attacking people wanting real systemic change. "Or do you just take any opportunity you have to whine about capitalism?" Acknowledging your problems is halfway towards defeating them. You are suffering from what's known as dunning-kruger.
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  319.  @chrispeck308  "you said nothing about socialism" It's literally an example of socialism. It's literally an alternative to capitalism. "I fail to see how my response wasn't to what you said." Even after I took the time to explain? Sadly that seems plausible.
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  320.  @chrispeck308  You: "I'm sure however many beggars are theoretically produced by capitalism, would be exponentially dwarfed by whatever hair brained idea youd come up with to replace it." ""defending the status quo" an honest representation of what I said?" Really? FYI capitalism is the status quo. I shouldn't have to explain this. "I don't think I'm the one overestimating my intelligence" I know I can be condescending but at least I don't lie about it like you are. Lastly... stop editing your comment to add large amounts of things repeatedly like you are. If you want to add something then you should be responding again.
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  321.  @chrispeck308  "keep reaching bud." Keep advocating for the status quo while lying about it. I know you will. "radical change will do what you claim," Imagine thinking that treating things like housing and health care as a human right wouldn't improve the lives of the peasants like you are. How deeply unserious you must be. "isn't the same as defending capitalism," You are defending capitalism. And you are doing it in a world where there is a homeless epidemic in the richest nation in the history of the world. You can advocate for change like I am or you can advocate for the status quo like you are. But I wish that you could at least be honest about it. You can't even do that.
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  322.  @chrispeck308  "isn't the same as defending capitalism," Imagine acting like "I'm sure however many beggars are theoretically produced by capitalism, would be exponentially dwarfed by whatever hair brained idea youd come up with to replace it." isn't defending capitalism like you are. It's really dense even by internet comment section standards.
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  323.  @chrispeck308  "isn't the same as defending capitalism" You weren't even sure what my "hair brained idea" was apparently because I didn't use the word socialism to describe it and still you knew it couldn't possibly be as good as capitalism. But yeah... nOt dEfEnDiNg CaPiTaLiSm.
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  324.  @chrispeck308  "willful misrepresentations" You mean direct quotes where you express your love of capitalism? I'm done wasting my time addressing you. Good luck advocating for capitalism and the status quo and then lying about it in the future.
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  325.  @chrispeck308  "That doesn't make me an ideologue willing to defend it to no end." You are such an ideologue you said any alternative would be hair brained and now you are lying about it. I have an ideology and it includes socialism. I also have have intellectual honesty, something you don't.
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  326.  @chrispeck308  "you don't have to prove that beggars are inordinately produced by capitalism?" I suspect I'm obligated to prove my beliefs as much as you are. Actually since you are already getting what you want as you are advocating for the status quo it really should be on you to show how the system is succeeding. Is it? Or is there an epidemic of homeless? Of beggars? Of mental illness? Maybe I don't have all the solutions but I absolutely know the current system is failing while you are a clown.
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  327.  @chrispeck308  I quit. If you were trying to destroy my faith in humanity you have succeeded.
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  328.  @Jensth  "dictorship" It's telling that you have to strawman my argument instead of addressing the things I'm actually saying. You are tough to take seriously. "GUARANTEE" I don't guarantee that you are paid for you silliness but I do suspect it.
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  329.  @Jensth  "show me a socialist country that is not a dictatorship and not capitalist" Why should I have to? Do you just have zero imagination? And zero intellectual honesty? So that is why you are strawmanning the things I'm saying instead of addressing the things I'm actually saying? Do you have to show me a capitalist country that isn't a corporate dictatorship ruled by money? Because just because it doesn't exist doesn't mean I'm going to ignore the things you are actually saying because I'm not a clown.
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  330.  @Jensth  I literally don't have the desire to try and intelligently respond to your crap much less read it. "Socialist revolutions always lead directly to hell" Meanwhile I currently live in capitalist country that feels like I'm living in a dystopian novel but I'm not suppose to worry about socialism to clowns like you. Nope. According to unserious minds such as yourself I'm instead suppose to worry about your fearmongering instead of what I'm actually experiencing. I should just ignore the fact that capitalism only cares about money. "starvation, stagnation, poverty and war. Historical empirical evidence show this, without a shadow of doubt" History has shown us without a shadow of a doubt that capitalism is fine with all of this... starvation, stagnation, poverty and war as long as someone is on top getting rich but you don't see that, acknowledge that or care about it because you are not a serious person. I hope you are paid for this. I really hope you don't understand all the obvious things wrong with the things you say. You are impossible to take seriously. "starvation, stagnation, poverty and war. Historical empirical evidence show this, without a shadow of doubt" FYI social security is socialism. You should be able to tell because it's part of the name but you are so unserious I doubt you even realize it. And all that socialism is a good thing while you moronically act like it would cause the downfall of society.
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  331.  @Jensth  "Socialist revolutions always lead directly to hell" Imagine being so unserious that you act like social security is what's wrong with society. Imagine thinking a health care system would be better if it were capitalist. You are f'ing clown.
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  332.  @Jensth  " free schools and healthcare." It's called socialism dumbass. "A capitalist country does not have to be a coorporate dictatorship" Meanwhile, in reality, the person who spends the most money wins about 90 percent of the time. That isn't democracy. That's corporate dictatorship and that is what ALWAYS happens... but hey prove me wrong if can. Show a country where the candidate spending the most doesn't win. Show me an actual democracy. I know you can't but that isn't actually what's wrong with all your nonsense. You are wrong because you have been so brainwashed into the cult of capitalism you can't even imagine any other system.
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  333.  @Jensth  "Capitalism is not the problem." Yes. It is. Capitalism will not give you food if you are starving because their is no profit in it. Capitalism will not heal you if you are sick because there is no profit. Capitalism will not house you if you are homeless. Capitalism only cares about accumulating wealth. Money and capitalism ruins everything.... but hey as long as you have enough money you likely don't care about all the suffering it's causing.
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  334. " thought the supreme court was unimportant" Nope. They thought it doesn't matter which corporate team is putting them on... they will continue to represent the corporate interest. CT is on the court because of biden. Biden fought harder for him than obamas nominees.
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  335.  @garyddlewis3067  "a free, independent and democratic country" You mean puppet of the US who couped its democratically elected government in maidan.
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  336. What do you think his position is on US flags made in russia?
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  337.  @TheBestLife2184  Like I said you are in a cult.
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  338. He was authentic when he said, "nothing will fundamentally changed" in a private media to his high dollar donors. But yeah, I agree with your sentiment.
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  339. The peasants of america are decent for the most part. The same cannot be said of the peasants of israel.
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  340.  @joecool3332  They did report that trump and bill had a good talk right before he announced his run. I'm surprised they did and didn't bury it.
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  341. He assassinated a foreign official of a government we don't have a declaration of war with. He stopped 0 wars. Trump is a warmonger and deflecting to talk about biden and pelosi being warmongers too doesn't change that.
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  342. Only deeply unserious people call a bunch of UNARMED protestors a "coup."
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  343.  @NelsonLikestoTalk  "what would you call" Protest or riot. Obviously.
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  344.  @NelsonLikestoTalk  "I didn't understand." That is plausible. "You think it was a protest or a riot? Or both?" I think that either can be used to describe that day, depending on the time of the day. It started as protest and after the cops LET them in it became a riot.
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  345.  @NelsonLikestoTalk  youtube video "The Capitol Police - Let 'Em In"
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  346.  @NelsonLikestoTalk  "Why do you say the cops let them in?" Ive seen cops crush BLM protests. They knew long ahead of time there would be protestors at the capital that day. The let them in and were rewarded with BILLIONS more funding for it.
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  347. "Why is it so hard to put money in Research and Development for Clean Energy while producing fossil fuels for power." It's not hard. They don't want to. Our government is bought.
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  348. While I tend to agree I know they want apathy. I'm going to continue to go out and vote for anyone other than their corporate candidates just to stick it to them.
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  349.  @fun_ghoul  Do you even know what the word apathy means? "lack of interest, enthusiasm, or concern." Not voting is = lack of interest in voting = apathy but not according to me but according to the dictionary.
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  350.  @jamesmorrow1646  Imagine calling a small riot a "coup." Just stop.
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  351.  @signsofbias  "what bs?" Are you kidding? "do not negate each other" LMFAO Of course they do. If it was warmer in the "medieval warm period" than it is now then it hasn't been "getting warmer for over 8 thousand years?" You are saying, according to you, that it was cooler now than it was then. So not warmer. Please be embarrassed that you need this explained and for giving your own terrible comments a thumbs up.
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  352.  @signsofbias  "Please prove me wrong" I think there is zero percent chance you will admit that I have. Please prove me wrong about that.
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  353. But cross totally won me over.
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  354.  @PutXi_Whipped  "Vaush" I'd bet money he is a CIA asset.
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  355. I can respect that as long as you do the same for orange clowns.
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  356.  @tonyclifton2230  lies about mccarthey being speaker and more
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  357.  @BocaoZ  Yeah... my point is that no one is using them. So it could get worse. I'm a glass is half full kinda guy clearly.
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  358.  @pkia898  "threat" I think you overestimate how strong israel is and underestimate how strong their neighbors are.
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  359.  @beastmode6609  "doing the right thing" You are conflating completely different things. I wasn't talking about "doing the right thing" and neither were you until now. That's a different topic. We were talking about being "selfish" versus altruism. "doing the right thing...affects your family's quality of life." Let's say your idea of "doing the right thing" didn't just "affect their quality of life" but literally causes someone you love to LOSE their life. Are you sure you are really doing the right thing?
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  360.  @anonuser6867  That's worse than trump how exactly? Oh right...
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  361. If he stays then dems can fear monger about the court while running.
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  362.  @cyyy  He's looking at the world and he's pissed which is understandable. But he's blaming peasants as if it's their fault things are the way they are and he's forgetting that they too are VICTIMS.
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  363.  @cyyy  Meh. He's projecting evil on them ("waste of humans") and I don't think the OP is actually evil (a "waste of a human").
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  364.  @magpie3794  "Time to grow a spine." Look man I'm all for people being heroes like snowden and assange but let's not act like anyone and everyone should be willing or have to make the sacrifices that those heroes made. Stop victim blaming FFS.
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  365.  @cyyy  "how do you know that liberal?" How do you know I'm a "liberal?" "is he a victim too?" If you aren't sitting on top being part of the one percent then YES... they ABSOLUTELY ARE a victim. Even useful idiots who tell you to vote for complete POS can be victims even while they say the dumbest shit.
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  366. "sense of justice... Waste of humans" The problem I have with this mentality is that it's the same type of mentality that thinks Ukrainians should be falling on their sword and fighting to the last man against russia because of a "sense of justice." And if you aren't doing that you are a "waste of a human" because they aren't fighting how you think they should. When in reality prioritizing peace is very human. You act like it's all black and white when the world is grey. You act like people shouldn't be willing to sacrifice anything for peace. Are you living by these values? What are you sacrificing for your sense of justice? Are you snowden or assange? I suspect not. I suspect you aren't really sacrificing anything while thinking everyone else should be willing to sacrifice it all.
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  367.  @magpie3794  "I’m for peace" The only reason I even know this reply is there is because I can see it in my notifications. It says this thread has 16 replies but I can only see like 12 when I expand it out. Censorship sucks. If I haven't responded to someone here it's only because I can't see it.
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  368.  @UnstoppableYaris  "is the video.." Am I addressing the video or am I addressing a person's specific quotes from this thread? I straight up haven't even ATTEMPTED to comment about ANYTHING in this video. "Does someone help you tie your shoes in the morning or is it Velcro?" Since this seems like projection I'll answer my own rhetorical question for you... I'm directly addressing a person's comment and not addressing this video. If you guys are trying to destroy the last little bit of faith I have in humanity it's working.
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  369.  @UnstoppableYaris  This is suppose to be where the smart people hang out. Why are you here?
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  370.  @UnstoppableYaris  What have you sacrificed for your sense of justice? I'd hate to think it's just virtue signaling so that you can think you are better than that human waste.
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  371.  @UnstoppableYaris  "felt it was “safe” for them to show support for the common cause." Why did they think that? Did they have justified concerns or are you just dismissing them out of hand because you don't agree with their actions? "Do you think it’s about the money, or about the fact that people sat quietly and let the “thieves” operate with impunity?" I do my best to try and answer people's questions honestly but I'm honestly confused about what exactly you are asking me. Are you really asking me to speak about people that I've never met and don't exactly understand their situation outside of your biased cliffsnotes? "what have you done lately beside misconstruing others’ comments on YouTube?" Before I answer that I'm curious to know what EXACTLY you think I should be doing?
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  372.  @UnstoppableYaris  "misconstruing others’ comments on YouTube?" I'm also curious to know how you think I'm misconstruing anyone's statements. Are you sure you aren't just triggered by what I'm saying?
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  373.  @UnstoppableYaris  "cost me over $30K out of my own pocket." Let's say you didn't have 30K to lose. What then?
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  374.  @UnstoppableYaris  I concede I don't really care what you think at this point. You destroy my faith in humanity as much as any "waste of human" out there.
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  375.  @dashx1103  "I can't begrudge anyone" I can and do begrudge anyone that votes for evil and/or tells people to vote for evil. And at the end of the day that's what sirota does... not only does he vote for evil but he tells everyone else they should be voting for evil also. It's abhorrent.
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  376.  @dashx1103  "I also understand people who vote against who they think is the worst candidate." As do I. I understand that they have been propagandized by people like sirota who, every election cycle, tells everyone to vote for the blue team no matter how corrupt and terrible they are. He will actually tell you they are bad right before he tells you to vote for them. I legit have more respect for the dupes who support the trumps and bidens of the world because they think they have their back. Sirota KNOWS the blue team doesn't have your back and will STILL tell you to vote for them.
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  377.  @dashx1103  "Judge people all you want." Yeah. It's not like we are talking about voting where that sort of thing might come in handy. Don't judge people claim deeply unserious people such as yourself. That's a way to good voting! /s " some "evil" is worse than other "evil." " There is. It's still evil and that's how they get you to vote for it. They know you would do it any other way and this is how they get you to say it's ok. It's not. It's just evil. "I voted Gravel in 2020" I don't care. This isn't about you no matter how much you want to make it that way. It's about sirota.
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  378.  @dashx1103  "Don't tell me what to do." Sorry not sorry for telling you and everyone to not vote for evil. You are impossible to take seriously.
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  379.  @dashx1103  "you seem to think you can define reality for everyone else." I don't. I say don't vote for evil. Whatever YOU think that is. You shouldn't vote for it. And when you say you are voting for the "lesser evil" that is YOU saying it's evil. Not me.
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  380.  @dashx1103  "Who did you vote for" As always I voted for someone I don't think is evil. Are you really worried about who I'm voting for? You should be worried about the people who are voting someone they KNOW is evil. Millions of people knew trump was terrible and voted for him anyway. Sirota and his ilk are the other side of that coin and together they ensure the country circles the drain forever because they vote for evil and you think there is nothing wrong with that.
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  381.  @dashx1103  "I understand people who vote "lesser evil."" Like I said so do I... I know they are conditioned to think it's ok by people like you and sirota. I understand that this is the ONLY way they would support evil. Convince them that at least that thing they know is evil and terrible is at least less evil and terrible than something else... like that makes it ok. It doesn't. "I don't really get the mindset of telling other people how they should think and vote." You don't understand why trying to get people to not support evil is important and worth while? You are impossible to take seriously.
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  382.  @dashx1103  "You aren't persuading" While I concede I am condescending and it's not good for persuading ultimately my main method of persuasion is done with logical arguments. "you just tell people they are "wrong."" No. I don't. And while I do tell them they are wrong I also tell them WHY they are wrong. "Impossible to take you seriously." Is this your idea of persuading? Or is this "hectoring" and being particularly hypocritical about it? "So do you agree that the Squad should have abstained from voting for Pelosi as Speaker in 2020, thus allowing McCarthy to become Speaker?" What a terrible question. The squad should have been voting for someone for speaker who would bring M4A to the floor. Of course they shouldn't abstain and give away their power. "McCarthey" There is zero reason for his name to be talked about in any of this. His name is only wrongly mentioned because people like sirota and cenk wanted to fearmonger against force the vote. And you are doing more of it. Wow.
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  383.  @dashx1103  "who did you vote for in 2020?" I'll copy and paste my answer.... "As always I voted for someone I don't think is evil. Are you really worried about who I'm voting for? You should be worried about the people who are voting someone they KNOW is evil. Millions of people knew trump was terrible and voted for him anyway. Sirota and his ilk are the other side of that coin and together they ensure the country circles the drain forever because they vote for evil and you think there is nothing wrong with that."
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  384.  @dashx1103  "who did you vote for in 2020?" I'll try a third time to give you an answer since my first 2 tries have been shadowbanned... I voted for someone that I thought was good. Why would you worry about that? And not the people who voted for someone they THEMSELVES (not me) thought was evil. Millions of people voted for trump knowing he was terrible. I tell them what I tell sirota and his ilk. Don't vote for evil. Period. I shouldn't have to explain that, but I will.
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  385.  @dashx1103  Furthermore I'm forced to explain the absolute basics of logic because of people like sirota. Don't vote for evil really isn't that hard, complicated, or controversial. It only becomes those things because the sirotas of the world who are out there manufacturing consent for evil.
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  386.  @dashx1103  "you won't answer the question." Yeah. I don't like you very much and it's completely irrelevant to the point I'm making. It's just you deflecting.
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  387.  @dashx1103  "Hilarious." You will continue to be condescending towards me after your lecturing me about it. Figures.
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  388.  @dashx1103  "if someone voted for Biden because "they didn't think he was evil" they still suck" They would still be wrong but I would legit have more respect for that person than the sirotas of the world who know biden is evil and vote for him anyway. And all my arguments are completely different and much harder. For that person I would need to convince them biden is evil and that is hard. Telling someone to stop voting for something they KNOW is evil is much easier to do. Like I said they only get to that point because of the terrible "arguments" sirota and his ilk use to manufacture consent for evil.
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  389.  @dashx1103  "Can't answer the questions." Nope. I choose not to. I even went out of may to go in great detail to tell you exactly why I'm not answering. You don't even attempt to address any of that. You will continue to use this as a deflection to avoid talking about the things of actual substance.
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  390.  @dashx1103  "perfectly reasonable" Any chance you learned anything after all this? Let's see. Is it perfectly reasonable to vote for evil? This shouldn't be hard.
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  391.  @dashx1103  Me: "I don't like you very much and it's completely irrelevant to the point I'm making. It's just you deflecting." You: "wHy aRe YoU nOt AnSeWeRiNg?"
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  392.  @dashx1103  "hypocrite" You clearly do not know the meaning of the word. "since you are so willing to condemn others for their vote" I'm condemning people for voting for what they think is evil. "you'd offer information about your's" I've told you that I voted for someone I don't think was evil. If I did that would make me a hypocrite but I don't so I'm not.
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  393.  @dashx1103  I just realized that you wrote "And who also KNOW that casting a conscience vote for an outsider candidate is a wasted vote." In the same comment as, "I voted Gravel in 2020." What an absolute clown and walking contradiction you are.
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  394.  @dashx1103  "how so" According to you you are "wasting your vote." You are a clown.
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  395.  @dashx1103  "who did you vote for?" I answered you question. You never answered mine... let's try again... is it "perfectly reasonable" to vote for someone you yourself think is evil? And again... this shouldn't be hard. The answer should be obvious.
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  396. Hopefully, when the russia/ukraine war is over, that statement will look silly.
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  397.  @InfoForYou8  "No." I'm pretty sure he was the guy. "Learn some logic." You aren't even attempting arguments. That's not very "logical." "Us vs. Them" It's my fault that the elite are crushing me? That they only see me as a commodity to be used to make money? That they will throw me away as soon as I'm not profitable for them? Sorry not sorry for taking the facts in and acting appropriately.
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  398.  @tonyplow9882  "assuming what you want to assume." What a weird way to describe the position that noam publicly said about himself. I think it's far more apt to say that you are assuming he might have changed his mind because that's what you want to assume. Don't you think?
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  399.  @tonyplow9882  "i am saying that we can’t be sure without asking him." Is this still your position? I know it was your position one minute ago but for all I can know for certain your position has changed. It would be wrong of me to assume you still think this. It would be better to do what you are doing and ask. Is that still your position? That we can't be sure without asking him?
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  400.  @tonyclifton2230  "Alas you took fashion over knowledge." I'm not going to lie this is funny coming from someone who is manufacturing consent for corrupt dems.
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  401.  @tonyclifton2230  "I am not saying biden is great" It's like driving head on into a wall at 100 mph instead of 120 mph. "paris climate accords" Nothing about it is binding. It's words and virtue signaling, nothing more. "keystone" Is that why we needed to vote for team fracking?
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  402.  @dashx1103  I'm pretty sure he is. Even his biggest fans here seem to concede it.
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  403.  @InfoForYou8  "you’d want to know his current position for sure." It's not very relevant to me at this point and I've told you exactly why. If you are arguing in good faith that we should be asking him what his position is then that is something YOU should be doing.... but you aren't are you? "I have no need to do ad hominem fallacious criticisms" I don't need to call flat earthers names but I concede I do it anyway. "I have no need to do ad hominem fallacious criticisms" Are you really pretending that your comment of, "Learn some logic" wasn't ad hominem? I'm pretty sure it was.
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  404.  @dashx1103  "should vote against the Democrat. He stated that he's done it" Just not when the "democrat" may was well be a republican? "He stated that he's done it." Did he vote full blown republican? "you are just wrong on that." When did exactly did he tell people not to vote for a democrat in a general election? He's old as dirt. You must have a single example right? "I understand people who voted Trump because they thought Biden was unacceptable." You understand that type of nonlogic? If biden is unacceptable that means you don't vote for biden. It doesn't mean you should vote for trump. "I understand people who voted Biden because they thought Trump was unacceptable." Trump being unacceptable means you shouldn't vote for trump. Only a fool would think that means you should vote for biden. "I understand people like you who say we have to stop voting blue or red." If it makes you feel any better I understand why so many people vote for terrible people.... they do it, in part, because people like noam tell them they should. And he does it knowing that they are terrible. I actually have far more respect for the du pes who vote for trump or biden because they actually believe them and not because they are scared of the other guy.
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  405.  @tonyclifton2230  "There were two options" Nope. But this is what you say when you are trying to manufacture consent for the major parties. "Democrats were better on the environment and he has been proven right." Because the dems have mandated drilling now? I don't think that proves what you think it does. But hey... at least the EXXON ceo is happy with biden and the dems!
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  406.  @dashx1103  "So I took that statement literally." It is what would literally happen if noam got his way on the topic. We are a social species and we need each other.
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  407.  @tonyclifton2230  "He was only one vote" He has legions of sycophants like you.
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  408.  @tonyclifton2230  "who were the other options?" Do you really need me to explain what the word infinity means?
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  409.  @tonyclifton2230  "Chance of winning." You are self defeating. Other don't have a chance of winning because you and people like you will only vote for corrupt major parties.
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  410.  @tonyclifton2230  "What you said wasn't that funny." I wasn't laughing at me. "new start extended" Biden didn't go backwards on a single issue. Wow are you easily placated. "Paris accords back in place" Which like I said doesn't do ANYTHING of substance. "maybe an Iran deal soon" Maybe? You are giving him credit for things he hasn't actually done now?
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  411.  @dashx1103  "Noam explicitly stated..." Noam explicitly stated, "such people have to be, they should have the decency to remove themselves from the community, if they refuse to do that then measures have to be taken to safe guard the community from them." Like I said... he wants them ostracized.
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  412.  @tonyclifton2230  "it wasn't all bad." More military spending under biden.
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  413.  @tonyclifton2230  "it wasn't all bad" Biden de port ed more.
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  414.  @tonyclifton2230  "it wasn't all bad" More money for the MIC under biden.
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  415.  @tonyclifton2230  "it wasn't all bad" Biden kicked more people out of the country.
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  416.  @tonyclifton2230  "it wasn't all bad" More money for the department of offense under biden. Unlimited money for ukraine under biden.
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  417.  @tonyclifton2230  "it wasn't all bad" Biden is forcing more people out of the country compared to trump.
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  418.  @tonyclifton2230  I can't even get my message across right now in biden's america. Everything else I'm trying to say is being shadowbanned.
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  419.  @scottwaggoner223  "What do you need me to cite?" Where exactly you are getting your info... a title that I can look up on the internet and check for myself. "RT" I legit thought they were banned. I don't read them. You apparently do. So give a title of an article that can be checked. I showed you the way and still you act like you don't get it. "I’m in the states" So who cares about rubles when you are buying things. Are you paying twice as much for everything as I am from only a couple years ago? But you want to look at how the ruble is struggling? You are tough to take seriously.
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  420. zionism is akin to notseaism.
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  421.  @Paradox-dy3ve  "Yang is out their ACTUALLY attempting to do something about our major problems." No. He's not. He's just another POS conman and you are buying his BS.
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  422.  @Paradox-dy3ve  "I'm sure it makes YOU feel good to morally condemn people for disagreeing with your opinions" But if it makes you feel good to prop up that POS if it makes you feel like you are doing good while you are only enabling evil you do you.
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  423.  @Paradox-dy3ve  "Yang is out their ACTUALLY attempting to do something about our major problems." As an actual progressive if you asked me how I think UBI should be paid for I'd tell you "rich people." Not yang. Yang wants the first 25 percent of his UBI to be paid for the poorest of the poor. He wants the people most in need of UBI to often get literally NOTHING from his "uNiVeSaL" basic income. He wants to gut the social safety net to pay for his UBI. That isn't not just an expression of his abhorrent "opinion." That's an expression of his MORALS. Or as it stands with yangs like LACK of morals. But if you feel good while tries to get you to dismantle the social safety net you do you. You are a useful idiot for POS conman.
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  424.  @Paradox-dy3ve  Youtube video titled, "Andrew Yang: Paying for a Universal Basic Income" How would yang pay for his UBI? The first thing he'd do is he'd cut "500 billion dollars per year on income support." Translation: he would gut the social safety net. It takes a special kind of evil to do that.
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  425.  @Paradox-dy3ve  If you are the poorest of the poor and most in need of an extra grand a month you are likely to get nothing. But at least billionaires can get a UBI that's 25 percent funded by the poors while the poor would get nothing from yangs UBI.
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  426.  @Paradox-dy3ve  "I still don't understand where the venomous hatred for him is coming from" I call him controlled opposition and you don't understand why that bothers me so much? This isn't rocket science. I honestly prefer republicans who don't act like they are on my side compared to snakes like him who are stabbing me in the back. "you're insulting and being super rude and awful" Look in the mirror. You are the same guy who says shit like, "I'm sure it makes YOU feel good to morally condemn people for disagreeing with your opinions," I'm absolutely concede I'm condescending. And that I'm mean. But at least I'm not a hypocrite about it like you are. "I tentatively suggested that we don't reduce Yang to exactly what you're reducing him to." It's my opinion that your opinion is asinine. Do I not get to express my opinion? Or do you only get to do it? He's EXACTLY the type of person who needs to be called out and exposed... for the same reasons I do that when the topic is trump. Do you have so much trouble understand why people get mad at trump? And call him a POS? Or only when it's about your conman? "Is it literally because you don't like this take of his" Maybe start at the top. I called him controlled opposition. It shouldn't need to explain in great detail that bothers me so much and I have better things to do than explain the obvious.
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  427.  @Paradox-dy3ve  " "enabling evil" get over yourself" Get over yourself. While you pat yourself on the back for propping up your favorite POS conman.
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  428.  @Paradox-dy3ve  ""enabling evil" get over yourself" Sorry not sorry if the truth hurts. I call out bootlickers for trump for all the same reasons. You are bootlicking for a POS conman. If want to act like he's not a POS you can do that intelligently. What you can't do is pretend that me thinking he's a POS shouldn't make me mad.
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  429.  @joewhite9074  "believes..." You did. "Why exactly should Ukraine cede any of it's territory to Russia in exchange for them to stop their aggression against them?" That was you "believing."
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  430. "attire" It shows what clowns they are. It shows how detached they are. It shows how much it's akin to the golden globes or other award shows. It shows how unserious these people are. Take your pick. All are legit reasons to talk about it even it's hardly the most important and most impactful thing the oligarchs are doing.
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  431. "attire" One last thing... it's not a coincidence that reality mirrors dystopian novels like that.
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  432. Shouldn't you be watching CNN or MSNBC?
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  433.  @voccsaycee30  "comparing Nazis to Israelis" It's a logical argument known as reductio ad absurdum. It shows why you are clueless, not why you are a nazi.
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  434.  @voccsaycee30  "fucking absurd, obnoxious" More projection from you. All to try and back up your smear that they are "anti-semetic." It's what someone does when they don't have an intelligent argument to make.
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  435.  @Nerwesta  "that's a pity" I use humor to keep me sane in a sad world. "educated on sharks" Good luck with that. I don't hate em. I'm just not looking to make friends and concede I'm too distracted by other things. But I wish you well. Peace.
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  436. F trevor noah. Free julian assange!
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  437.  @dashx1103  "he's a good reporter" It's definitely not that.
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  438.  @dashx1103  "I think it is exactly that." Even if they thought it it still wouldn't be true. He's a terrible reporter who fits right in with corporate media. "I get that a lot of people don't like him. Which is their prerogative." He's a liar. And you don't get to have an opinion about it.
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  439. It depends. Generally no.
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  440.  @volourn9764  "DEMOCRATS SHOULD REMEMBER AL GORE WON FLORIDA IN 2000 — BUT LOST THE PRESIDENCY WITH A PRE-EMPTIVE SURRENDER"
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  441.  @volourn9764  "not proof" It's as much proof as you have that if a completed recount was conducted that bush would have had more votes considering a legit recount, which was REQUIRED under florida law, was never completed.
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  442.  @rembrandt972ify  "stupidity has equal or greater explanatory value." It has less explanatory value. Shadowbanning isn't a bug. It's designed.
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  443.  @rembrandt972ify  "I personally think" I can tell you specific phrases and topics that will get you shadowbanned. You can reliably talk about flat earth and have it go up but when it comes to politics youtube sets out to sen sore certain topics and stiffle debate.
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  444.  @rembrandt972ify  For example I tried to combine this post with my next one it will CERTAINLY be shadowbanned (assuming one of them isn't going to be already) The FBI worked with big tech to sen sore a true story about hunter bidens...
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  445.  @rembrandt972ify  For example good luck trying to talk about the president's son's computer.
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  446.  @rembrandt972ify  The US government and big tech worked to hide a true story about that computer during an elec tion in part through shadowbanning. I think this comment has only a 50 percent change of being shown and I could have made it closer to 0 with different word selections.
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  447.  @rembrandt972ify  I just sent you a comment about that computer. It's shadowbanned but it might still show in your notifications. That's the type of comment that gets shadowbanned. But you could safely talk about flat earth if you want.
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  448.  @rembrandt972ify  "Geno's side"? I don't know what you are referring to.
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  449.  @rembrandt972ify  "Hunter" Ukraine was paying him for something. And it wasn't his brilliance.
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  450.  @skeeveskeeve  "coup attempt" Coup means there was violence. You are not a serious person.
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  451.  @skeeveskeeve  "bloodless coup" That is an oxymoron. For it to be a coup there needs to be violence. Not according to me but according to the dictionary.
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  452.  @skeeveskeeve  "ignorant on an issue" You are the one mischaracterizing what happened.
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  453.  @kellielaine5848  Both parties are corporate tools aka fascists.
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  454.  @rcarmisin3465  "Open your mind to the bigger picture." This is what you say to try and deflect from a murd ered journalist. "A dead journalist?" No. A MURD ERED journalist. "looking what's been going on there for decades, centuries." Is there something about it that makes the murd er of a journalist ok? Oh wait... "Is that how you rationalize things?" LMFAO What? FYI you are deflecting. Because you don't have anything intelligent to say about a mur der. "You got a small view chum" What about your big view makes that mur der ok? Oh right... nothing. And you know it.
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  455.  @rcarmisin3465  F
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  456.  @rcarmisin3465  U
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  457.  @InfoForYou8  "libertarianism " That's what happens when trump is potus right?
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  458. They don't fight for democracy.... they fight for US hegemony.
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  459.  @InfoForYou8  "policies" Doesn't he support corporations mandating vaccines for their workers?
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  460.  @InfoForYou8  "left libertarian" You make words meaningless with the way you use them.
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  461.  @InfoForYou8  "Dore lied" What EXACTLY did he lie about? Are you sure he didn't tell the truth? But you just don't like it?
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  462.  @InfoForYou8  "100% true" Translation: what I said was 100% percent true and this is how you try to deflect from oliver's transparently terrible policy positions.
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  463.  @InfoForYou8  "What I said here is 100% true." Translation: what I said was 100 percent true and you are going to do this instead of addressing the true thing I said.
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  464.  @InfoForYou8  "error" It's telling that you don't even attempt to address his terrible policy position but instead do this.
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  465.  @InfoForYou8  "100% true" I'll ask again... what EXACTLY did jimmy dore lie about when it came to oliver?
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  466.  @InfoForYou8  "not government policy" Of course it's government policy to decide what corporations can and cannot do. What a dumb thing to lie about.
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  467.  @InfoForYou8  "propaganda" This is funny coming from someone spreading it. What exactly did jimmy dore lie about?
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  468.  @InfoForYou8  "Saying corporations can do what they want is not government policy at all. 100% true" Governments decide what corporations can and cannot do with policy. Just writing "100 percent true" after a lie doesn't make it true.
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  469.  @InfoForYou8  "Saying corporations can do what they want is not government policy at all. 100% true" This is such a transparent lie it could only be funnier if you followed it up with, " Climb out of the propaganda. It’s seriously negatively affecting you on these issues. I told you how to correct yourself" Too funny. It's called projection. Thanks for the laugh!
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  470.  @InfoForYou8  "Use critical thinking" I will... talking to you is a waste of my time. I'm done with it. What exactly did dore lie about? Oh right... you have nothing. Thanks for proving it repeatedly.
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  471.  @InfoForYou8  "Re-read it." Take your own advice..."Saying corporations can do what they want is not government policy at all." Yes. It is. If you are a government you can have policy that says corporations can do what they want... or not. "corporations can do what they want" you are literally describing government policy affecting corporations. Sorry I can't help you understand your own words.
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  472.  @InfoForYou8  "Saying corporations can do what they want is not government policy at all" Who gets to decide if corporations can do what they want? Oh right... the government. You are describing GOVERNMENT POLICY affecting corporation. Even kindergartens get it.
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  473.  @InfoForYou8  "Dore lied" The liar here is you.
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  474.  @MRGRINCH323  "MAGA GRIFTERS" Dore never told anyone to vote for trump. I voted for jill stein. I don't think you know what the word "grifter" means. Fun fact: I'm only seeing this comment now because of censorship and shadow banning that the other guy would be fine with because it's being done by a corporation (working with the government) and not done directly by the government.
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  475.  @InfoForYou8  Good call. We both know you have no lies of dore to cite and saying, "corporations can do what they want is not government policy at all," make flat earthers look smart by comparison.
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  476. "Biden would have cured covid and cancer by now if it weren't for manchin." -some shitlib, probably
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  477. Your soul wasn't worth whatever they were paying.
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  478.  @timwalsh6283  If there was ever a time this last election was a time to support libertarian principles... instead dave told his listeners to vote for trump. He is a sheepherder for the duopoly.
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  479.  @timwalsh6283  "I don't remember" Well he did anyway whether you remember it or not.
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  480.  @timwalsh6283  "he was voting for Trump" That's waaaaaaay different. I'm just kidding. We all know why he would say something like that.
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  481. Speaking of "oppressive government" whoever made the second reply it can't be seen. Isn't sen sore ship like that the type of thing that is suppose to make china the bad guy?
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  482.  @kdnick8584  Do you also think it's unimportant to know that biden is a neoliberal? That the squad are frauds? I'm not a fan of labels but as long as they are being used correctly they are important and serve a purpose even if you don't understand why knowing who you are dealing with is.
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  483.  @kdnick8584  "I just don't think it's important." You don't think it matters who is doing the interviewing? "interesting and informative. That is what is important." It always matters where your news is coming from and what their biases are. I hope you think about it when taking in things from CNN, MSNBC, or FOX. Because it matters in ways that seem transparently obvious to me.
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  484. Everything you just said can also be said about corn pop. You are just buying joe biden propaganda.
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  485.  @twatts1523  My point is that anyone who tells you to vote for either major party is "part of the problem." Pun intended.
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  486.  @twatts1523  My point is that anyone who tells you to vote for either major party is "part of the problem." Pun intended.
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  487.  @twatts1523  My point is that anyone who tells you to vote for either major party is "part of the problem."
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  488.  @twatts1523  My point is that dave is "part of the problem."
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  489.  @joeschmo1194  I don't need more than that. If you support the duopoly... and dave supports the duopoly... then you are part of the problem... not part of the solution. Are you dave's burner account?
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  490.  @joeschmo1194  I don't need to do more than point out that dave supports the duopoly and that makes him part of the problem and not part of the solution. Did dave pay you for this? Or are you a burner account for him?
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  491.  @joeschmo1194  "What else you got?" I don't need anything else. If you support the duopoly, and dave supports the duopoly, then you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.
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  492.  @joeschmo1194  "did Dave..." Are you dave's burner account?
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  493.  @joeschmo1194  "what else" I don't need anything else to prove that dave is part of the problem and not part of the solution.
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  494.  @joeschmo1194  "What else ya got?" I don't need anything else to prove my point that dave is part of the problem.
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  495.  @joeschmo1194  "What else you got" I don't need anything else to prove my point that dave is part of the problem.
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  496.  @joeschmo1194  I don't need anything else to prove that dave is not part of the solution. And that he is part of the problem.
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  497.  @joeschmo1194  I don't need anything else to prove my point. You deserve each other. You are both part of the problem.
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  498.  @joeschmo1194  My point applies to you to. Maybe try being part of the solution next time.
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  499.  @joeschmo1194  The point I was making about dave applies to you too... obviously.
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  500. It's worse than that.
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  501. Yes. They are the ones that have happy endings.
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