Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "David Sirota vs Pete Buttigieg" video.

"You gotta vote biden." -david sirota in 2024
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@dashx1103 You listen to too much propaganda from sirota rationalizing your support of evil. I legit think trump is the lesser evil. But I don't vote for evil. Period. And neither should you or anyone.
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@dashx1103 "Abstaining wasn't gaslighting." It is. And you are. "threatening to abstain was the ultimate cutthroat move." Abstaining is taking the power you have and throwing in the trash. Abstaining makes them as powerful as I am on the issue and I don't have any power. "abstain would have gotten a floor vote" There is no reason to think this. "Too extreme?" The strategy of voting for a person who would bring m4a to the floor every single time would already have been extreme enough. I don't care if they had to vote on speaker one billion times. I already hold the "extreme" position as you advocate for giving away all the power they had.
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@dashx1103 "Nothing wrong with that." Yes. There is something wrong with voting for evil. Stop saying there isn't. "And you can't tell other people how to vote." Have you told sirota that? That's literally everyone's problem with him... every election cycle he goes out and tells everyone to vote for the blue team AFTER telling you how terrible they are.
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@dashx1103 "I can't begrudge anyone" I can and do begrudge anyone that votes for evil and/or tells people to vote for evil. And at the end of the day that's what sirota does... not only does he vote for evil but he tells everyone else they should be voting for evil also. It's abhorrent.
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@dashx1103 "I also understand people who vote against who they think is the worst candidate." As do I. I understand that they have been propagandized by people like sirota who, every election cycle, tells everyone to vote for the blue team no matter how corrupt and terrible they are. He will actually tell you they are bad right before he tells you to vote for them. I legit have more respect for the dupes who support the trumps and bidens of the world because they think they have their back. Sirota KNOWS the blue team doesn't have your back and will STILL tell you to vote for them.
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@dashx1103 "Judge people all you want." Yeah. It's not like we are talking about voting where that sort of thing might come in handy. Don't judge people claim deeply unserious people such as yourself. That's a way to good voting! /s " some "evil" is worse than other "evil." " There is. It's still evil and that's how they get you to vote for it. They know you would do it any other way and this is how they get you to say it's ok. It's not. It's just evil. "I voted Gravel in 2020" I don't care. This isn't about you no matter how much you want to make it that way. It's about sirota.
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@dashx1103 "Don't tell me what to do." Sorry not sorry for telling you and everyone to not vote for evil. You are impossible to take seriously.
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@dashx1103 "you seem to think you can define reality for everyone else." I don't. I say don't vote for evil. Whatever YOU think that is. You shouldn't vote for it. And when you say you are voting for the "lesser evil" that is YOU saying it's evil. Not me.
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@dashx1103 "Who did you vote for" As always I voted for someone I don't think is evil. Are you really worried about who I'm voting for? You should be worried about the people who are voting someone they KNOW is evil. Millions of people knew trump was terrible and voted for him anyway. Sirota and his ilk are the other side of that coin and together they ensure the country circles the drain forever because they vote for evil and you think there is nothing wrong with that.
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@dashx1103 "I understand people who vote "lesser evil."" Like I said so do I... I know they are conditioned to think it's ok by people like you and sirota. I understand that this is the ONLY way they would support evil. Convince them that at least that thing they know is evil and terrible is at least less evil and terrible than something else... like that makes it ok. It doesn't. "I don't really get the mindset of telling other people how they should think and vote." You don't understand why trying to get people to not support evil is important and worth while? You are impossible to take seriously.
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@dashx1103 "You aren't persuading" While I concede I am condescending and it's not good for persuading ultimately my main method of persuasion is done with logical arguments. "you just tell people they are "wrong."" No. I don't. And while I do tell them they are wrong I also tell them WHY they are wrong. "Impossible to take you seriously." Is this your idea of persuading? Or is this "hectoring" and being particularly hypocritical about it? "So do you agree that the Squad should have abstained from voting for Pelosi as Speaker in 2020, thus allowing McCarthy to become Speaker?" What a terrible question. The squad should have been voting for someone for speaker who would bring M4A to the floor. Of course they shouldn't abstain and give away their power. "McCarthey" There is zero reason for his name to be talked about in any of this. His name is only wrongly mentioned because people like sirota and cenk wanted to fearmonger against force the vote. And you are doing more of it. Wow.
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@dashx1103 "who did you vote for in 2020?" I'll copy and paste my answer.... "As always I voted for someone I don't think is evil. Are you really worried about who I'm voting for? You should be worried about the people who are voting someone they KNOW is evil. Millions of people knew trump was terrible and voted for him anyway. Sirota and his ilk are the other side of that coin and together they ensure the country circles the drain forever because they vote for evil and you think there is nothing wrong with that."
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@dashx1103 "who did you vote for in 2020?" I'll try a third time to give you an answer since my first 2 tries have been shadowbanned... I voted for someone that I thought was good. Why would you worry about that? And not the people who voted for someone they THEMSELVES (not me) thought was evil. Millions of people voted for trump knowing he was terrible. I tell them what I tell sirota and his ilk. Don't vote for evil. Period. I shouldn't have to explain that, but I will.
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@dashx1103 Furthermore I'm forced to explain the absolute basics of logic because of people like sirota. Don't vote for evil really isn't that hard, complicated, or controversial. It only becomes those things because the sirotas of the world who are out there manufacturing consent for evil.
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@dashx1103 "you won't answer the question." Yeah. I don't like you very much and it's completely irrelevant to the point I'm making. It's just you deflecting.
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@dashx1103 "Hilarious." You will continue to be condescending towards me after your lecturing me about it. Figures.
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@dashx1103 "if someone voted for Biden because "they didn't think he was evil" they still suck" They would still be wrong but I would legit have more respect for that person than the sirotas of the world who know biden is evil and vote for him anyway. And all my arguments are completely different and much harder. For that person I would need to convince them biden is evil and that is hard. Telling someone to stop voting for something they KNOW is evil is much easier to do. Like I said they only get to that point because of the terrible "arguments" sirota and his ilk use to manufacture consent for evil.
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@dashx1103 "Can't answer the questions." Nope. I choose not to. I even went out of may to go in great detail to tell you exactly why I'm not answering. You don't even attempt to address any of that. You will continue to use this as a deflection to avoid talking about the things of actual substance.
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@dashx1103 "perfectly reasonable" Any chance you learned anything after all this? Let's see. Is it perfectly reasonable to vote for evil? This shouldn't be hard.
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@dashx1103 Me: "I don't like you very much and it's completely irrelevant to the point I'm making. It's just you deflecting." You: "wHy aRe YoU nOt AnSeWeRiNg?"
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@dashx1103 "hypocrite" You clearly do not know the meaning of the word. "since you are so willing to condemn others for their vote" I'm condemning people for voting for what they think is evil. "you'd offer information about your's" I've told you that I voted for someone I don't think was evil. If I did that would make me a hypocrite but I don't so I'm not.
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@dashx1103 I just realized that you wrote "And who also KNOW that casting a conscience vote for an outsider candidate is a wasted vote." In the same comment as, "I voted Gravel in 2020." What an absolute clown and walking contradiction you are.
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@dashx1103 "how so" According to you you are "wasting your vote." You are a clown.
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@dashx1103 "who did you vote for?" I answered you question. You never answered mine... let's try again... is it "perfectly reasonable" to vote for someone you yourself think is evil? And again... this shouldn't be hard. The answer should be obvious.
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