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Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Ryan Grim on Progressives Voting For Ukraine Weapons $$$" video.
Grimm's job is to manufacture consent for corrupt politicians.
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Of course one of grimm's sycophants would use the word "butthurt" unironically like that. Thanks for the laugh.
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@tonyclifton2230 "What's your point." Even you must realize their point right? "He explains" Actions speak louder than meaningless words. He's part of that problem who shields politicians from criticism. For example when jimmy was talking about forcing the vote grimm was giving BS about how it might lead to mccarthey being speaker.
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@tonyclifton2230 "Ryan gives good analysis." You don't even attempt to address my point about his lies about mccarthey become speaker. You are as disingenuous as him.
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@tonyclifton2230 " I don't need to address your point." This sounds like something ryan grimm would say. Is this a burner account of his? Just ignoring my point doesn't make it go away ya know.
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@tonyclifton2230 "He just told you how the system works." I'm already well aware of how the system works. That's how I'm able to call out frauds like grimm. "You don't get that kind of insight out of jimmy dore." Jimmy dore not only knows how the system works but he's proposed ways of changing it.... like force the vote, which grimm was spitting on.
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@tonyclifton2230 "all you can think of is. Ryan bad." Yup. The source matters. Would you use this kind of "defense" if we were talking about jeffrey epstein? 'here jeffrey is making a good point and all you can think of is how it's jeffrey.' -you, probably
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To expose him.
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@tonyclifton2230 "there is no pressure for politicians" He will likely note how grimm has consistently shielded those politicians from the same pressure ryan thinks will do anything. He will point out ryans lies on behalf of those same politicians.
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We gotta expose the people who lie to us like grimm because he won't be the last one to try it.
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@dashx1103 "Jimmy" This isn't about jimmy no matter how much you want to try and make it about him. "Grim" He lied about mccarthey could be speaker. He fear mongered that it was possible and it wasn't to try and cast shade on force the vote. He's a liar. Period. And nothing you say changes it.
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@dashx1103 "You are confusing Grim with someone else." Nope. I'm spitting nothing but facts.
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Sorry not sorry for having "hate" for the people who are destroying the world.
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"This constant stream of hate" That's very hypocritical coming from the person who was just calling people, "butthurt."
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@tonyclifton2230 Thanks for making my point about how grimm, "won't be the last one," not that it was necessary.
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@tonyclifton2230 "defaming" Those are lies. I don't do that. I leave that to people like ryan and you.
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@tonyclifton2230 "see this is the problem." You are impossible to take seriously. "It's pointed out..." It's pointed out that grimm is liar and you just ignore it. "You would rather listen to jimmy dore" Because I don't catch him lying on behalf of the powerful. "Would rather cut people down than do anything useful." You sound like grimm during force the vote. "Utter nonsense." This is funny all things considered. Thanks for the laugh.
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@tonyclifton2230 "I asked you of his lies." No. You didn't. You are so intellectually dishonest you are even lying about this. "no actual examples" I've mentioned his lies about mccarthey possibly being speaker if dems tried to force the vote and you haven't even attempted to address it anywhere. "I also asked you about that and what to do when the vote was lost." You did. "You dodged that like the matrix also" The answer seemed so obvious I didn't even bother. Even AOC knows the answer even if she doesn't act like it. These are AOC's words on the topic, not to be mistaken with her actions, "Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments. Sometimes we vote for the historical record - to let future generations know we did everything we could."
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@tonyclifton2230 "I asked you of his lies." I hope you are paid well to lie, just like grimm is paid well for his.
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@tonyclifton2230 "I asked you of his lies." No you didn't. You are even lying about this. But I have mentioned grimm lies that mccarthey might become speaker if dems forced the vote. You haven't even attempted to address it.
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@tonyclifton2230 "I also asked you about that and what to do when the vote was lost." The answer was so obvious I didn't bother. Even AOC knows this. This is from her twitter telling you the plan, "Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments." And why do we do it? "Sometimes we vote for the historical record - to let future generations know we did everything we could."
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@tonyclifton2230 "this is my whole point you are calling him a liar." Interesting way for you to admit that you never actually ask for his lies... that when you said, "I asked you of his lies," that was actually just you lying.
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@tonyclifton2230 "I asked you of his lies." Was a lie. I backed it up with evidence. And you have NOTHING.
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@tonyclifton2230 "you do realise..." I realize that you are a liar just like the person you are trying to defend.
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@tonyclifton2230 "concentrate on the phonys" LMFAO I am. And you are one of them.
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@tonyclifton2230 "can you answer the question" I can. But I have no interest in dealing with a person who demonstrates they have no intellectual honesty.
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@tonyclifton2230 "can you answer the question" Can you answer mine? When you said, "I asked you of his lies" you didn't actually ask for his lies had you? That was a lie was it not?
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@tonyclifton2230 Bonus question, when you said, "I asked you of his lies," that was after I already mentioned his lie that mccarthey might become speaker if they forced the vote right? So why were you pretending that I hadn't already given you one? That you didn't even attempt to address? But you think I should have given you more? So that you could do what... ignore them too?
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@tonyclifton2230 "Your a jimmy fan alright." Yeah. I don't like frauds and liars. Sadly they are all around.
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@tonyclifton2230 "yeah I am a phony." While you are, and proving my point by not answering my simple and direct questions, this isn't an answer to anything I actually asked. "I'm a phony." You are a liar. And this short thread proves it. If you can't get your facts straight your opinions (that you are likely paid to have much like grimm) are rightfully ignored.
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@tonyclifton2230 "I asked you of his lies." Not once have you even used a question mark much less asked me a question. You are a liar just like grimm who lied that mccarthey might become speaker if we tried to force the vote.
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@JohnAllenRoyce "Constant stream" of hypocrisy from you
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@JohnAllenRoyce "Constant stream" As for my "hate" I save it for the elite, where it belongs. And don't have it for the majority of people who are peasants.
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@tonyclifton2230 lies about mccarthey being speaker and more
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@dashx1103 "he's a good reporter" It's definitely not that.
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@dashx1103 "I think it is exactly that." Even if they thought it it still wouldn't be true. He's a terrible reporter who fits right in with corporate media. "I get that a lot of people don't like him. Which is their prerogative." He's a liar. And you don't get to have an opinion about it.
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