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Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Noam Chomsky: We're Repeating Afghanistan in Ukraine" video.
Isn't chompsky that guy who thought people who don't get jabbed should starve?
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I don't know. I feel like we were already at peak dystopia when chompsky was saying that people who didn't get vaxxed should starve.
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@wuhaninstituteofvirology "which contradicts his entire life's work" Yup. Let's not act like he didn't do that then shall we?
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@wuhaninstituteofvirology "the greatest american dissent" Isn't he that guy who thought people who don't get vaxxed should starve? I'm pretty sure he is and I'm pretty sure that makes your comment nonsensical.
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@tonyclifton2230 "He co wrote manufacturing consent." Which makes him manufacturing consent for the elite all the more despicable. "Vote blue no matter who" -noam chompsky
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@tonyplow9882 "Not sure if he would say the same thing at this point" I've got a dollar that says he tells you to vote for the blue team in 2024 assuming he makes it long enough.
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@tonyplow9882 "it likely won’t come up if nobody asks him." Let's say I used to think people should starve and die but now I've changed my mind about it... I wouldn't wait for people to ask to let them know I've come to my senses.
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@dashx1103 "please point to Chomsky's quote of "vote blue no matter who."" I'm pointing at his actions. He tells you to vote for the dem nominee every election no matter how terrible their candidate. "It's a reasonable take" 1) It's not reasonable 2) He is manufacturing consent for corrupt politicians by doing it. "It's a reasonable take" It's just as unreasonable as people who voted for trump knowing he was terrible but did so anyway because of biden. Together they all ensure the country circles the drain forever.
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@wuhaninstituteofvirology " who is the greatest american dissent vs. american imperialism in history" Isn't he that guy who is blue no matter who? Didn't he tell everyone to vote for biden? And american imperialism?
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@tonyclifton2230 "at least pay some heed on both them issues" The exxon CEO is happy with biden's "climate" bill. Is that what you are referring to?
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@InfoForYou8 "it doesn’t decrease his other contributions." I'm pretty sure that when the author of manufacturing consent manufactures consent for the elite that DOES diminish that book and that person.
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@dashx1103 "you are just wrong on that" Just one example in his 500 years on the planet when he told people not to vote blue in a general election... prove me wrong if you can.
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@dashx1103 "Fans concede what?" That noam thinks the unclean, aka the unjabbed, should be ostracized from society.
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@tonyplow9882 "Not sure if he would say the same thing at this point, but he was forcefully incorrect when he said that." I'd think that if he really had a change of heart on the topic he would make sure everyone knows it. You would know it if he did.
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@tonyclifton2230 "voting lesser of two evils" This is how you manufacture consent for voting for evil. I can only think the guy who wrote the book on the topic knows exactly what he is doing.
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@tonyclifton2230 "Democrats while pretty bad..." Tony thinks they suck but he's going to manufacture consent for them in the same breathe. Maybe read that book you mentioned.
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@InfoForYou8 "I’m just referring to your ad hominem ‘arguments’" You mean in your comment where you said, "Learn some logic," which is ad hominem?
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@tonyclifton2230 "are miles better" Are they really? Or is it merely their job to give you enough crumbs to keep you placated?
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@tonyclifton2230 "you don't seem to have an understanding of the book" If "understanding the book" leads me to vote blue no matter who and think that people who don't get the jab should starve I'm just going to have to learn to be ok with your interpretation. "I know it might have kept the rain off your head but you would have been wiser to read the book." That's not very nice of you to say. Where is E to talk about how ad hominem is bad?
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@InfoForYou8 "You can actually just email him" So could you then right? The people who want to think and claim that his position has changed? Why is this suppose to be on me? Especially when if his position has changed it wouldn't matter very much at all to me? It wouldn't take away the authoritarianism he previously displayed.
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@tonyclifton2230 "I am not saying biden is great" What's your favorite part of the "climate" bill? Mine is the part where they literally MANDATE drilling.
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@nicka731 "isn’t the flex you think it is" Neither are the non binding words and virtue signaling that is the paris climate accord.
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@tonyclifton2230 "Do you think trump would be doing a better job on the environment?" I think they are equally terrible enough that it's irrelevant between the two on the topic. "They were the two options?" You have infinite opinions when deciding who to vote for. I personally would prefer the option of using the ballot as TP as opposed to using it to vote for trump or biden.
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@tonyclifton2230 "Do you truly believe that?" Do you truly believe that biden is better? Even after your talking points on the topic were easily dismissed?
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@dashx1103 "if they become destitute" You are already talking about people who are destitute... and want to make it harder on them.
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@tonyclifton2230 "chance of winning." As if you can "win" with biden or trump. That's how you "win." LOL
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@tonyclifton2230 "it wasn't all bad" More people los t their liv es of c o v i d duri ng bid en.
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@compassioncampaigner728 "Body of work is an asset to mankind." Arguably. And that's probably why the asinine things he said hurt so much. "Acknowledge your criticism" Huh? "nobody is perfect" Yeah. Obviously. But when you are saying things that could be used to defend literally anyone no matter how evil it's probably not worth saying.
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@InfoForYou8 "No." I'm pretty sure he was the guy. "Learn some logic." You aren't even attempting arguments. That's not very "logical." "Us vs. Them" It's my fault that the elite are crushing me? That they only see me as a commodity to be used to make money? That they will throw me away as soon as I'm not profitable for them? Sorry not sorry for taking the facts in and acting appropriately.
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@tonyplow9882 "assuming what you want to assume." What a weird way to describe the position that noam publicly said about himself. I think it's far more apt to say that you are assuming he might have changed his mind because that's what you want to assume. Don't you think?
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@tonyplow9882 "i am saying that we can’t be sure without asking him." Is this still your position? I know it was your position one minute ago but for all I can know for certain your position has changed. It would be wrong of me to assume you still think this. It would be better to do what you are doing and ask. Is that still your position? That we can't be sure without asking him?
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@tonyclifton2230 "Alas you took fashion over knowledge." I'm not going to lie this is funny coming from someone who is manufacturing consent for corrupt dems.
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@tonyclifton2230 "I am not saying biden is great" It's like driving head on into a wall at 100 mph instead of 120 mph. "paris climate accords" Nothing about it is binding. It's words and virtue signaling, nothing more. "keystone" Is that why we needed to vote for team fracking?
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@dashx1103 I'm pretty sure he is. Even his biggest fans here seem to concede it.
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@InfoForYou8 "you’d want to know his current position for sure." It's not very relevant to me at this point and I've told you exactly why. If you are arguing in good faith that we should be asking him what his position is then that is something YOU should be doing.... but you aren't are you? "I have no need to do ad hominem fallacious criticisms" I don't need to call flat earthers names but I concede I do it anyway. "I have no need to do ad hominem fallacious criticisms" Are you really pretending that your comment of, "Learn some logic" wasn't ad hominem? I'm pretty sure it was.
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@dashx1103 "should vote against the Democrat. He stated that he's done it" Just not when the "democrat" may was well be a republican? "He stated that he's done it." Did he vote full blown republican? "you are just wrong on that." When did exactly did he tell people not to vote for a democrat in a general election? He's old as dirt. You must have a single example right? "I understand people who voted Trump because they thought Biden was unacceptable." You understand that type of nonlogic? If biden is unacceptable that means you don't vote for biden. It doesn't mean you should vote for trump. "I understand people who voted Biden because they thought Trump was unacceptable." Trump being unacceptable means you shouldn't vote for trump. Only a fool would think that means you should vote for biden. "I understand people like you who say we have to stop voting blue or red." If it makes you feel any better I understand why so many people vote for terrible people.... they do it, in part, because people like noam tell them they should. And he does it knowing that they are terrible. I actually have far more respect for the du pes who vote for trump or biden because they actually believe them and not because they are scared of the other guy.
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@tonyclifton2230 "There were two options" Nope. But this is what you say when you are trying to manufacture consent for the major parties. "Democrats were better on the environment and he has been proven right." Because the dems have mandated drilling now? I don't think that proves what you think it does. But hey... at least the EXXON ceo is happy with biden and the dems!
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@dashx1103 "So I took that statement literally." It is what would literally happen if noam got his way on the topic. We are a social species and we need each other.
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@tonyclifton2230 "He was only one vote" He has legions of sycophants like you.
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@tonyclifton2230 "who were the other options?" Do you really need me to explain what the word infinity means?
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@tonyclifton2230 "Chance of winning." You are self defeating. Other don't have a chance of winning because you and people like you will only vote for corrupt major parties.
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@tonyclifton2230 "What you said wasn't that funny." I wasn't laughing at me. "new start extended" Biden didn't go backwards on a single issue. Wow are you easily placated. "Paris accords back in place" Which like I said doesn't do ANYTHING of substance. "maybe an Iran deal soon" Maybe? You are giving him credit for things he hasn't actually done now?
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@dashx1103 "Noam explicitly stated..." Noam explicitly stated, "such people have to be, they should have the decency to remove themselves from the community, if they refuse to do that then measures have to be taken to safe guard the community from them." Like I said... he wants them ostracized.
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@tonyclifton2230 "it wasn't all bad." More military spending under biden.
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@tonyclifton2230 "it wasn't all bad" Biden de port ed more.
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@tonyclifton2230 "it wasn't all bad" More money for the MIC under biden.
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@tonyclifton2230 "it wasn't all bad" Biden kicked more people out of the country.
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@tonyclifton2230 "it wasn't all bad" More money for the department of offense under biden. Unlimited money for ukraine under biden.
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@tonyclifton2230 "it wasn't all bad" Biden is forcing more people out of the country compared to trump.
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@tonyclifton2230 I can't even get my message across right now in biden's america. Everything else I'm trying to say is being shadowbanned.
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