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Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Bernie Warns Dems: Stop Screwing Progressives In Primaries" video.
You are an idiot.
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Jama regarding, "they will just screw them over 10x harder." What? Do you think they have a bunch of secret weapons they have that they are going to use? They don't. They have the same playbook as last time. Fortunately Sanders has name recognition and popularity he didn't have in 2016. In 2020 he is the inevitable one... not the corporate shill.
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By making idiotic smears of him you are doing the work of the establishment. They appreciate your stupid shit.
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Well that was how I took it and that is how I think about things. I voted for Jill Stein. But to me that was me supporting Jill Stein... not supporting the Green Party.
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I have allegiance to progressives (as in people)... not parties.
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Regarding, "by using the media to black out bernie coverage" There is no way that tactic will be as successful in 2020. In 2016 they were effectively able to act like he was pie in the sky and fringe. In 2020 will enter as the frontrunner. Regarding, "they are not above rigging the election again." No they are not. I fully expect the game to be rigged from start to finish. But ultimately I suspect there will not be enough dirty tricks in their playbook to successfully fuck him over in 2020 the same way they did in 2016. The game, although still rigged, has changed.
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They don't have to "allow him." But if they do it should be fair. (Sadly it won't be.)
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But the establishment thanks you if you want to keep smearing sanders and the best hope we have for progressive policies in the near future.
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No. Fuck you.
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Do you need Bernie Sanders to tell you what to think or can you think for yourself? Well.... I guess when you do try to think for yourself it seems you think dumb things. You want to cry and bitch about him endorsing Hillary? Do you not see how important it is that Hillary is blamed for her loss and not him? Don't get me wrong they still tried to blame him but it didn't work because he didn't give them ammo to use. Stop crying like a bitch. As nice as it would be it isn't reasonable to expect him to do everything. As a politician... go figure... he needs to play some politics. It sucks but there isn't another way to get what we want.
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Stephen Hawking's corpse is smarter than you.
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What do orange balls taste like?
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You bring down the average intelligence of the world by over a point.
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You are why Trump loves the uneducated. Too bad you aren't a lot smarter. Then you would be able to realize how dumb you are.
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Cute dog in your picture. And I'm sure they are smarter than you.
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It's not that labels aren't important. They are. But they aren't nearly as important how brainwashed the public is into thinking they need to be supporting one of the major parties. Hillary and Trump are fucking despised and still essentially everyone supported one or the other. I mean seriously... look at the labels that are attacked to those pieces of shit in addition to pieces of shit. They are garbage. Still they got what percentage of the vote? Essentially it all. Starting fresh sounds cool but it isn't practical in this country.
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I personally think the surrender tactic is a mistake.
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I think you overestimate labels. I care about effecting policy. I care about getting a major party that doesn't blow. Hostile takeover is the quickest way to achieve this. It accomplishes 2 goals at once... getting a major party of our own and killing the neoliberal wing. Corporate dems can be purged the exact same way progressives were purged. We just need to win.
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And if hostile takeover doesn't work I will likely support the green party. But I consider that plan B.
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Yeah. You can tell he doesn't believe it because he has only been saying the same shit since the beginning of time. That is how I know someone is being insincere.
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It's not about being with them. It is about taking over.
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Yeah. You can tell he is good at his job of working for the dems by the way he has exposed the rot in the party more than anyone else on Earth.
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Hasn't exposed anything? Huh. You must be living in a different world than I do. I live in this one. Where Sanders has exposed them for what they are by existing. They wouldn't have had to rig the primary 2016 in the first place if it were not for him. They wouldn't have looked worse because he was there. He proved you don't need corporate money and superpacs. But I guess you live in a different world than I do.
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Regarding, "Do you think progressive doctrine is somehow unique to Bernie?" No. And I have no idea why you would think I might. Regarding, "If you have been paying attention..." If you have been paying attention you would realize that the more people than ever are woke to the rot in the party. Clearly you don't want to give Bernie any credit for this but he fact of the matter is that it is a direct result of his existence. When you said, "Corporatism has U.S. politics on lockdown." You were essentially correct. The only reason the public is exposed to that "flower" in shit is because of there actually being that flower. And that flower is Bernie Sanders. You know... the guy who calls for a "political revolution." The guy who makes sure to identify himself as an independent and not a dem. The guy forcing the corporate media to talk about single payer. The guy who makes sure everyone sees that "sea of shit" for what it is because he gives them a flower to compare it to. But you go ahead and continue to smear him. There is lots of that stupid shit going on around here. Fuckers expect him to do literally everything when literally everything, including the fucks who should be supporting him, are working against him. It is fucking disgusting.
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