Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "YouTube Commenter Makes Great Point On John Oliver's Jill Stein Smear" video.

NYC regarding, "Most people know that knowing and accepting reality" Thanks for the laugh considering you have no idea what reality looks like. Regarding, "The office of Presidency is not intended for a person that has no knowledge at all pertaining to the inner workings of legislating." Jill Stein is incredibly intelligent. I am confident she can figure it out. What will be forever more important than experience is judgement. Jill Stein has good judgement. Hillary has demonstrated nothing but terrible judgement. Dick Cheney has knowledge pertaining to the inner workings of legislature so to you I guess you think he too is what we need for President. You can't be this dumb can you? Seriously you must be being paid to lie to the public right? Get a real job. What you are doing is making the world a worse place. Change. Immediately. Please.
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Bob regarding, "Don't you know that this might NEVER have happened if people hadn't voted for a spoiler" You think people are entitled to votes. They aren't. You think that people who voted for Nader would have naturally gone to Gore. They don't. I'm voting for Jill Stein this election but you are going to think that vote belongs to Hillary even thou she has done nothing in her entire life to deserve it. She has actually worked against my interests and beliefs her entire life. If I voted for who I think the lesser of two evils is I'd vote for Donald POS Trump. But you don't care about this inconvenient fact. You will just say my vote belonged to Hillary or some other BS talking point. Don't blame Trump voters for Trump, the DNC for rigging the primary, or Hillary for sucking her entire life, point the finger at me even though if anyone has a gripe with my vote it should be Trump and company. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/6/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth
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Erik regarding, "Nobody said Hillary is entitled to your vote." It certainly is implied when Bob says, "Don't you know that this might NEVER have happened if people hadn't voted for a spoiler" I'm not voting for a "spoiler" when I vote for Jill Stein. I'm voting for the only candidate that represents me, my priorities, and my ethics. I'm voting for the only candidate running who actually deserves my vote. But to sheep that means spoiler. Regarding, "We're saying voting for Hillary is probably in your best interest" Well, you are very, very, very wrong. Hillary is everything I despise about our political system, politicians, and state of politics. And it isn't up to you. It isn't your vote so it isn't your call. Regarding, "you're most likely throwing your vote towards nothing" I'm getting the Green party closer to the very important 5 percent mark even if she doesn't win and I'm letting the establishment know I'm not going to choose between a douche and a turd. Regarding, "actually impacting who the next President is." You seem to think I consider Hillary and Trump to be very different. They aren't, at least not in any sort of meaningful way. (being a better liar is not a meaningful difference) Regarding, "Nobody is denying you the right to do that. We're just point out what it means." You are blaming Green party voters already if Hillary loses. Stop denying that. Regarding, "There are only two outcomes this election" No there aren't. Regarding, "Good luck to you if you think doing something else has a bigger impact on your future." I will. My vote isn't just about this election but about all the elections yet to come.
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Hillary Clinton, "As President, I will make it clear that the United States will treat cyberattacks just like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic, and military responses." No big deal thou. It wasn't as if Hillary Clinton was currently accusing Russia of cybercrimes to distract and deflect from the fact she was caught being corrupt as fuck. And here is a another example of "she's more of the same..." http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/clinton-no-fly-zone-2013-youre-going-kill-lot-syrians-2016-could Trump said "pussy" thou so I should vote for Hillary even though she has spent her entire life working against what I believe in and support. That makes sense in a retarded kind of way.
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Erik you go ahead and think I'm wasting my vote when I cast it for Jill Stein. In my opinion the only way I could waste my vote is if I cast it for a terrible candidate like Hillary or Trump. I want neither of them to win.
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Bob regarding, "The reality is that one of those two IS going to win." Because of morons and sheep like you supporting complete pieces of shit. No because of me. Regarding, "I know what my priority is." Certainly not supporting an ethical candidate or someone who actually deserves your vote. We can agree to disagree.
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Bob Regarding, "you can feel good about voting for an ethical candidate" I do. I wonder how you can sleep at night knowing you are supporting a corrupt POS. Regarding, "US Supreme Court full of right wing judges who'll ensure that money talks." If the SC is as important to the "democratic" party as you claim then democrats should block Scalia type justices the way republicans are doing this very second. The democrats can demand centrists like Garland and block everyone else. The candidate you support has floated the idea of putting a Texas Republican on the court. Nevermind all that though. Just give your BS talking points and supporting dogshit.
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Erik regarding, "You have just as much chance of being a paid troll as I do." No. I don't. Jill Stein doesn't have a superpac spreading lies. Regarding, "As far as I know, you're a paid Trump plant who is pushing for Stein to keep people from voting against Hillary." Trump shills don't talk shit about Trump like I do. Pull you head out of Hillary's ass. Regarding, "In the end, look at what I've said." I have unfortunately. I think I'm dumber because of it. Regarding, "Good luck with that." Thanks. Go fuck off and let me be irrelevant then.
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Erik regarding, "It doesn't matter how much she represents you." Actually it does and only a sheep would suggest otherwise. Regarding, "But you aren't participating in who the next President is with a vote for Stein." Sure I am. I am getting the Green party closer to 5 percent. I am also sending a message to the establishment that I'm not going to choose between a douche and a turd and if they get that message they might just offer more than a douche and a turd next time if they actually care about getting my vote. Regarding, "Trump" You don't really listen do you? You have your talking points and stick to them. If I were going to vote for the lesser of two evils I'd vote for Trump. Consider that while you try and convince me to vote for a shit candidate. The problem with all your BS and talking points is that you never bother to have any standards what-so-ever for who you will vote for. I do and so should you and everybody. You know the "you need to be at least so tall to ride" signs at rollercoaster parks? Well everyone should have a "you need to be at least so decent" to get my vote signs. You obviously don't. Had Trump been the "democratic" nominee (it isn't that hard to imagine, he was a self described democrat not long ago) and David Duke were the Republican nominee you would be here with the same absurd talking points telling everyone they need to vote for Trump. Pull you head out of your ass and vote for a candidate that actually represents you and be willing to let the chips fall where they may. I'm willing to support good and lose. You support evil. Stop being part of the problem and be part of the solution instead. Good luck with the queen.
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Erik regarding, "I'm sorry you don't want either to win" Of course I want to win. Everyone wants to win. But voting my values if far more important than that. I assume you would be voting Trump if new leaks tank Hillary and she is down 25 points on election day. You would vote for Trump then right? Winning is important and if you didn't vote for Trump you would be wasting your vote right?
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Erik regarding, "You aren't refuting me" I'm not refuting the fact that Trump or Hillary is going to be the next President. I'm refuting your bullshit "logic" that that is a good reason to support dogshit. Regarding, "you're dodging reality." You are dodging reality if you think either Hillary or Trump deserves anyone's vote. But you go ahead and support shit and wonder why things don't actually change when you vote for same old, same old. Regarding, "Good luck." Good luck with your queen. I'm not sure why you still think people's votes actually matter anymore anyway. http://alexanderhiggins.com/stanford-berkley-study-1-77-billion-chance-hillary-won-primary-without-widespread-election-fraud/
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Erik regarding, "I voted for Bernie and he lost" I'm sure Hillary's "Correct the Record" trolls would never lie about something like that considering they lie about anything and everything because that is their job... to lie and lie and lie and lie and lie, just like their queen. Regarding, "Digging up an irrelevant" If she is so irrelevant than what are you doing here fear mongering to get people to vote against their own interests? If she is actually irrelevant shouldn't you just fuck off? Regarding, "no experience" Judgement is always more important than experience. Sure Hillary has experience. So does Dick Cheney. But when all that experience demonstrates consistent terrible judgement and lack of ethics I'll take no experience over that any day. Regarding, "polling at 2%" Polls can be fucked with. Jill is lucky to be offered as an option in polls. Pollster know that asking the question, "who do you want to win" and "who do you plan to vote for" gets very different answers. Pollster know this and use this to get the answers they want. They also pick and choose who they bother to ask like for example excluding polling young voters. Regarding, "naive" You are naive when you vote for dogshit for president. Correction, I would rather have dogshit be president than Hillary or Trump. I apologize to dogshit.
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Erik regarding, "Do you want to borrow my phone to call someone that cares?" You get service in hell?
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Erik regarding, "I haven't anything credible about that report about the statistics of election fraud" Really? How do you explain the fact that exit polls indicate massive election fraud? http://trustvote.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/trust-vote.png Look at the last column of "discrepancy in favor of Clinton." How do you explain it? Regarding, "polling" At the end of the day I don't give a fuck about polling. At least not in this election. If there were more than one candidate that I thought was decent enough to get my vote I would consider being strategic with my vote. Considering there is only one candidate I want to win there really is no choice for me.
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Erik regarding, "I said "sorry you don't want either to win"." My mistake. I did misread that. You still don't have a valid point so far as I'm concerned.
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Eric regarding, "she's more of the same" Hardly. Although superpacs are the new norm having your own foundation that takes in millions from Saudi Arabia while you sell the Saudi's arms is very new, very different, and hardly business as usual. (Side note, recently released pages from the 9-11 report indicate that the Saudi's are likely directly implicated in 9-11) She also used the foundation to essentially sell a uranium mine to Russia, and sell a seat on an important nuclear commission to a contributor. This is not business as usual no matter how much you want to pretend it is.
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Erik regarding, "Selling arms to Saudi Arabia isn't new" Selling arms to foreign countries only because they are donating millions to your foundation absolutely is new. You are either being foolish, naive, or intentionally misleading. (My money is on intentionally misleading.) Regarding, "Pointing out that we arent going to roll over on cyber attacks...sounds more than appropriate" You realize we do this to other countries right? Good thing the rest of the world isn't has hypocritical as the US. Regarding, "Get some better talking points." That's funny coming from "Correct the Record." Thanks for the laugh in these sad times.
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Oculos regarding, "I've talked to him outside of YouTube." It was all part of my plot to try and get you to vote for Trump while disguising myself as a Jill Stein supporter. Seriously thou I'll look you up later. I've got a bunch of stuff I need to be doing like an hour ago. Bob and Erik are lost causes. I feel they must be working for CTR. I'm done with them. My time is better spent doing anything other than talking to them further. Have a nice day.
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Erik regarding, "None of that changes the fact that Nader voters could have changed the outcome of the election." So could have Bush voters. Or Gore could have been a better candidate. Or the SC could have not stopped a recount. You choose to focus on Nader voters even thou for all you know they would have preferred Bush win at the time of their vote or, more likely, they would have just stayed home and said they were not going to vote for a terrible candidates.
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Erik regarding, "You can make personal attacks, but nothing I've said is untrue." If you say so. If you have a problem with me accusing you of being a "Correct the Record" troll you should blame Hillary Clinton for engaging in that type of despicable campaign tactic that make such an accusation valid. You won't thou. You will blame me... as always. Regarding, "I donated $100 to Bernie as well." Thanks for that. I'm the type to believe people when they say shit that can't be proven or dis-proven in the comments section. Again, I'm sure Hillary's "Correct the Record" trolls would never lie like that.
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Bob regarding, "SC" Yeah, Bob let's vote Hillary so we can get a Texas Republican on the court. http://snapzu.com/AdelleChattre/wikileaks-reveals-clinton-considered-a-texas-republican-for-the-supreme-court http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2016/10/24/wikileaks-email-reveals-hillary-clinton-campaign/
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Erik regarding, "That was people within her campaign discussing it" That's way different than the queen. Birds of a feather flock together. If you think Hillary has any intention of putting people on the court who are not corporate friendly I assure you you are being naive and duped. Good luck with the queen. I envy you in a way. It must be nice to think your candidate still has a chance to win (even though nobody should want her to win). I've already lost because of morons and sheep like you who are ok supporting dogshit that don't give a flying fuck about the people. Jimmy brought a good Malcolm X quote up before. He says, "If Johnson had been running all by himself, he would not have been acceptable to anyone. The only thing that made him acceptable to the world was that the shrewd capitalists, the shrewd imperialists, knew that the only way people would run toward the fox would be if you showed them a wolf. So they created a ghastly alternative. And it had the whole world, including people who call themselves Marxists, hoping that Johnson would beat Goldwater." Ironically Hillary Clinton was a "Goldwater Girl" at the time. Malcolm X goes on to say, "I have to say this, those that claim to be enemies of the system were on their hands and knees waiting for Johnson to get elected because he is suppose to be a man of peace. And at that very moment Johnson had troops invading the Congo and south Vietnam. He even has troops in areas where other imperialists have withdrawn. Peace corps to Nigeria, mercenaries to the Congo." Good luck with the fox. At least you aren't voting for the wolf huh? Fucking sheep.
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Regarding, "while Donald Trump is stuffing the US Supreme Court full of right wing judges who'll ensure that money talks." You want to make sure it was included here you go. The point is that you are worried about Trump stuffing the court with judges who'll "ensure that money talks" while supporting Hillary Clinton. You are dumb as fuck. I have to go live my life. You can't change the opinions of people like Hillary's "Correct the Record" trolls when they are already being paid to think something. That premise applies to the queen herself as well.
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Eric I really have to go. You feel free to keep saying stupid shit if you want and I'll tell you why you are a moron later.
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Tiny Hands Donald must be a Trump shill. (Obvious sarcasm is obvious.) Seriously thou I admire Tiny Hands Donald's ability to give you far more attention, detail, and nuance than I think you deserve Erik. Hearing stuff like, "Selling arms to Saudi Arabia isn't new or anything Hillary is pushing." makes me angry enough I could shake a baby. (Don't worry I don't have a baby.) You make anyone who hears you talk dumber when you say BS like that. I just want to tune out your noise but THD just dropped the mic on you. Does that affect your CTR pay?
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Erik regarding, "but to suggest they have anything to do with the Clinton Foundation is a bit naive" LMFAO. I'm sure the Saudi Arabian government was giving those millions to the Clinton foundation at the time of the weapons deals because they were interested in humanitarian efforts. The Saudi's are known for their big hearts. Seriously you should go fuck off and Correct the Record elsewhere. Only one of her paid shills is capable of saying crap like that and doing so while calling me "naive." It is a bit funny when I don't think about how you are helping destroy the world. Get a real job.
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Bob's messages have been brought to you and paid for by Goldman Sachs. Get the fuck out of here and get a real job you piece of shit. Hearing your bullshit really makes me want to vote for Donald Trump and I don't want to do that. You, like Eric, are making the world a worse place with what you are doing. Wouldn't you rather be doing something decent with your life? Look in the mirror, change, and change professions. Humanity would appreciate it.
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Oculos regarding, "I miss Erik" I don't. Bob and Erik seriously make me want to vote for Trump. I live in a swing state for the first time in my life during a Presidential election. I like the idea of my vote possibly swinging the election. And gun to my head I would prefer Trump. That is so messed up. I was a lifelong democrat before this election. Fuck that thou, I snapped out of it. Jill Stein will get my vote.
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Oculos regarding, "Make sense" I guess. This election is just depressing as fuck. Trump or Hillary? We have already lost as a country and election day isn't even here yet. How does anyone vote for either of those two? They are both. So. Awful. The FBI has different rules for the rich and powerful. Corporations have free rein in ND while my former "team" turns a cheek and doesn't give a shit. The war machine rolls on. I think it all might be a conspiracy to sell anti-depressants. I'm not going to let big pharma win though. I think I might go track down a bag of green and smoke it til election day has passed in solidarity with the Green party (and for sanity sake). Regarding, "Jill gets mine too." Keep up the good fight. I'd rather vote for her and lose than vote for Hillary or Trump and win. The only silver lining I'm hoping for is that this election has started to wake the country to how corrupt our political system is. (Thank you Bernie Sanders, wikileaks, snowden, and manning.) And hopefully after the ensuing, inevitable disaster we can get someone decent in office next time. GWB led to Obama. I never thought I'd see a black President in my lifetime. Too bad he didn't come through with his promise of hope and change. Maybe next time we can actually get the hope and change we are long overdue for. Peace.
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Bob must be getting paid by "Correct the Record" by quantity not quality.
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Oculos regarding, "Try to keep your head up, we really have no idea where this could lead." The fact that we have no idea what is going to be next is what scares me. I expect Hillary will win rather easily (whether or not she has the votes). I do not think that is going to go well for the country. My best hope is that Republicans continue obstruction and she will be unable to get anything done. I fear they will get things done and that none of it will be for the better. I fear another bank bubble bursting soon. I fear tensions will, at best, get worse with Russia and, at worse, we will go to war with Russia. I fear continued dependence on fossil fuels and unwillingness to move toward renewable resources. I fear she will try to privatize social security to "save it." I think Obama signs the TPP but if he doesn't she will. I fear she will overturn Citizen's United (just kidding, like she would do that). I fear that terrible times under Hillary will lead to great backlash against the "left" even thou Hillary does not represent the left. I fear this ultimately leads to someone who is much worse than Trump following her from the right. Hopefully I'm just way wrong. Hopefully she is a great president and great for the country. It won't be the first time. I was very wrong to think that Obama was going to deliver on his promise of hope and change. Maybe I'll be wrong again about this. Time will tell. Regarding, "two emails" Are these from wikileaks or where did you get them? I'm curious to know what you are talking about but I value my privacy and don't want to get love notes from Erik and Bob. If you have links that would be better for me. Regarding, "it's good to see people who aren't easily swayed by manipulative words." There arguments are so terrible. We are suppose to believe, for example, that the Saudi Arabian government was giving millions of dollars to the Clinton foundation because they cared about humanitarian efforts?!? Who buys that? I guess there aren't any foundations in their own country they thought worthy to donate to. And the weapons deals that were going on at the same time were mere coincidence. Who could possibly believe that? There was another one of Hillary's CTR trolls who was saying that Trump was "100 times worse than Hilter." I fucking hate Trump but 100 times worse than Hilter?!? How is anyone suppose to take that seriously? I am so much more willing to believe in aliens. Hillary and Trump might be aliens for all I can tell. They sure don't seem human.
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Eric regarding, "how does that vote feel now" If you bothered to listen to anything I've had to say you would already know the answer to your question. What's wrong? Are you going to lose your job at "Correct the Record?"
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Bob regarding, "I've listened to what you've said and I already know that you'll feel great." Why am I not surprised you get it wrong. I would have felt great had Jill Stein or Bernie Sanders won. I do not feel great that Trump won. I do like that Hillary will not be President but that is hardly the same as being happy Trump won. I'm assuming you are out of a job. Take this opportunity to reevalute your life. Go get yourself a real job where you aren't lying to people. As it turns out people don't like being lied to or supporting a candidate who only won their primary by cheating. Go figure. Seriously, take this opportunity to do something better with your life.
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Bob regarding, "Better than caring for a relative with scizophenia, dimentia, incontinence, heart and lung problems 24 hrs/day" Clearly this was what I was referring to considering it is the first time you have mentioned it. I was obviously referring to you lying to people repeatedly on this thread and using terrible "logic" to defend a candidate who is indefensible. As for your better than caring comment I in all honesty don't find you to be credible in any way and tend to think you are lying because that is your MO. If not then take care of that person and do only that instead of spreading lies and stupidity in your free time.
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