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Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Corporate Democrat Campaign Commercial Appeals To Nobody" video.
knowledge regarding, "GREEN PARTY are NOT environmentalists" This has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on the internet and I've talked to flat earthers. Regarding, "Jill Stein raised millions of dollars they have never installed a single solar panel on a poor person's home with that cash." Which would be a federal crime. Don't be afraid to do some research into campaign finance laws before spouting nonsense in the future.
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jeffrey regarding, "and you think that the democrap party would give ole bernie the power to do what he wants?" What? Is this how you would justify not supporting him? The bottom line is that even if Sanders were president and was able to get literally nothing accomplished while in office policywise it would give him the opportunity to win the war of ideas like he is currently doing when it comes to medicare for all. He could be trusted to not make shit worse like the orange clown. And he would be in a position to shape and reform the "democratic" party from the inside. Stop being obtuse.
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jeff regarding, "i have NEVER voted for a democrap,,,EVER." I'm not exactly sure what your point is or if you are hoping for a cookie for this. Who do you vote for? And I'm not saying that you should be voting for corporate dems. I'm not. You should be voting for progressives. And although they are few and far between in the "democratic" party they do exist and they deserve your support. They are the ones not selling out to big money to win their elections... like justice democrats.
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Do what you have to do to vote in the "democratic" primary going forward. Make them cheat if they are going to win. That doesn't mean you owe them jack shit in the general election if you don't want.
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Thank you for this. So many people going out of their way to trash her personally. Her heart is in the right place even if she is way, way, way wrong.
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This is how you justify making California's votes utterly meaningless... you think they are less then you. Bottom line is that they are Americans and their votes should count exactly as much as everyone else when it comes to voting for president.
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idea regarding, "Democrats do not deserve even that." Deserve has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with being wise. And if it helps, keep in mind that the democratic establishment don't want you to vote in their primary. That is why they have so many closed primary states. If you have a problem with the party, as you should, then do what little you can to make them better. And supporting progressives in their primary is a way of doing that. That isn't a vote to put someone in office. That is a vote tell the party what they are suppose to be.
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lowarail regarding, "he played the game" Yeah... he did. And we are better for it. Or would you rather the "democratic" party not needed rig the primary? In short stop being a fucking moron.
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JAYJAY regarding, "3%" I am pretty positive it's 5 percent. Regarding, "If the Democratic Party runs Bernie I will come back ." So are you just hoping he is able to win the primary without you? Or are you going to try to help him win the primary? Regarding, "But the choice between dems and republican is no choice ." You need to make a distinction between corporate dems and progressives working inside the party to try to change things, like justice democrats and Sanders. I love the Green party but they are rightfully plan B. Plan A is hostile takeover of the "democratic" party. We could use your help. And if they succeed in getting an establishment shill as their nominee I will be right beside you supporting the green party candidate, just like 2016.
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JAYJAY regarding, "As for Bernie I wish he would run but I am starting to wonder ." If I were a gambling man, and I am a gambling man, I would bet the house he runs assuming something crazy doesn't happen between now and then. And even if he doesn't then there should be a progressive option to support like Tulsi Gabbard. Regarding, "I will vote and donate for any progressive that I can" Excellent. Supporting progressives is the way to go.
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M M regarding, "Last time I checked, it was the republican party that passed the tax cut for the 1%" Since we are seemingly just spouting facts irrelevant to the conversation at hand... Last time I checked, it was Obama that made the Bush tax cuts permanent.
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Um... yes. Please do register to vote. Don't let them win without a fight. I assure you the establishment loves it when you stay home.
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The EC was set up so that slave owners would have more say then they were entitled. It takes a system that was as good as it was going to get, most votes wins, and fucked it up by making votes count unequally.
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I think you are conflating how nice a person is with whether or not they are correct on an issue. I have family members who are willing to walk off a cliff with corporate dems. That doesn't make them bad people. It makes them wrong. Have some perspective. And when you demonize people who are wrong you don't persuade anyone, you cause them to double down and entrench themselves.
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Blind allegiance to parties is partly to blame for why we are where we are. Vote based on policy. Even if the "democratic" party is, in general, a dumpster fire, that doesn't mean that justice democrats aren't right when it comes to policy. People like them deserve your support.
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