Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Why Trump Supporters Chant 'Build That Wall'" video.

You gotta give the Trump sheep some credit... even a broken clock is correct twice a day. CNN does suck.
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Droid regarding, "Trump is not a dictator" Did the original poster say he was? Nope. So how about you stop trying to deflect from the facts brought up like a typical trumptard.
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Swnsasy I'll give a couple examples of why CNN sucks even thou I really shouldn't need to. The free coverage they gave to Trump while doing their best to ignore Sanders. Their misrepresentation of facts surrounding the issue of universal health care. Their non coverage of Israel murdering peaceful protestors. The support of the war machine and their never questioning it. For example they will tell you how "unaffordable" paying for college is but the increase in military spending approved by the US government that would have been more then enough to pay for college wasn't even talked about by CNN. In short they represent corporate interests and can lick my balls. Do the world a favor and open your fucking eyes. Thanks for that in advance.
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I said the same thing about CNN but I didn't do so while completely missing the point. The topic of this video was about the chanting. Not the content of the chants.
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Do you think Pence would be any better when it comes to policy? Because he wouldn't. That said I'd advise you to use your energy on more constructive things. If we are going to have a shit government we really should have an ugly face to it like the orange clown.
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celtic while I agree with what you said I can only wonder why you are talking about fox news here. This thread isn't about them. Try to stay on topic in the future.
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Danny regarding, "People who say "CNN sucks", but simultaneously view Fox News as a credible source are not exactly getting it right." CNN either sucks or they don't. Period. You could have said 'People who say "CNN sucks", but simultaneously view alien telepathy as a credible source are not exactly getting it right' and that would have been just as profound (as in silly). Regarding, "I'm not a fan of CNN's corporate bent" Another, more simplistic way of saying this might be, CNN sucks. Regarding, "the fact that Trump supporters think CNN sucks does not place me in agreement with them." I'm not going to pretend that I got to the conclusion that CNN sucks the same way the broken clocks got there because I didn't. All of the "logic" they use to come the conclusion is flawed but ultimately the conclusion is correct for all the wrong reasons. Regarding, "Their criticism comes from a desire to be further misinformed, mine comes from a position of wishing to be better informed." But ultimately you are both criticizing them right? That is my point. Try not to overthink it.
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Well said Peter. I agree with all of that.
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Lance regarding, "your post... is longer than Danny's" Yup. I'm longwinded. Regarding, "you're the one doing the overthinking." You can't possibly be conflating the length of the writing with how well thought out something is right? Regarding, "I think Danny's reply was concise and clear," I never took issue with that. It wasn't like I had trouble understanding what he was saying. Ultimately it seemed like he was just going out of his way to make sure that he couldn't be found agreeing with something Trump supporter says because I suspect they, like so many, have a team or tribe mentality that doesn't allow them to be found agreeing with the opposition. It's like if Trump supporters say CNN sucks then they can only allow themselves to say CNN is fine even if CNN does in fact suck. Regarding, "whereas you seem to be conflicted about why "CNN sucks"." Huh? I haven't even begun to address why I think CNN sucks in this thread. I've only asserted it. Are you suggesting they don't? Because they do. I can tell you why if you really need me to but I really shouldn't.
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Keith regarding, "A claim that "CNN sucks" based around the idea that Fox News is credible is very different" While there is a certain amount of truth in your statement the problem is that people are too trained to only compare things to other things and think that what is important is the comparison. It isn't. We need to be able to have independent ideas on independent things. We need to be able to identify if CNN sucks regardless of what else is going on in the world and regardless of if Fox news sucks or even exists. And we need to be able to do the same when it comes to politicians. Trump either sucks or he doesn't. Hillary either sucks or she doesn't. Just because there is something elsewhere that sucks more than the topic at hand that doesn't mean that thing that sucks doesn't. Regarding, "You can think CNN sucks without agreeing with the idiots at Trump rallies." Um... no. You really can't. At least not when it comes to the very specific topic of whether or not CNN sucks. They either do or they don't. Period. That doesn't mean you need to agree on exactly why CNN sucks. Why CNN sucks is an independent idea and topic.
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Joel regarding, "Pence is quiet" Why exactly should I care how loud or quiet a psycho is? Regarding, "(Pence is) sane." Hahahahaha. Do you actually know anything about the guy you are talking about? The guy is a religious zealot whose priorities include taking away a womens right to choose persecuting the lgbt community. He is at least as bad as trump on ALL important issues. The environment, education, trade, guns, and more he is practically indistinguishable from trump when it comes to policy... that thing I mentioned all that time ago that you have never bothered to address. And the fact that you don't seem to understand how terrible Pence is only helps prove my case for me. I would actually prefer Trump over Pence because sheep like you are easily put to sleep as long as terrible policy is wrapped in sweet talk. Feel free to correct me but I'm confident you fucking love Obama don't you. Nevermind that he more than doubled the number of wars we are in, nevermind that he persecuted whistleblowers and journalists, nevermind that he set record deportations, nevermind that his signature piece of legislation was a Republican health care plan, nevermind that his failure helped give us trump... you fucking love him don't you. Because while he fucked over the people of this country he did it while not being offensive. I need people like you to stay pissed and angry at our government because I know that you are all too willing to go to sleep because you are a fucking sheep easily put to sleep.
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anarchore do the world a favor and shut the fuck up forever. Nobody gives a fuck what a mental midget like you thinks about this or anything.
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Regarding, "I'm not here to be your scapegoat," I'd ask what the fuck you are talking about here if I actually cared. Regarding, "I voted for Ralph Nader in 1999" So did I. I guess I haven't brought it because it is totally fucking irrelevant to the conversation at hand. Regarding, "Fuck Obama" Well... I'm not going to pretend to be perfect. I am genuinely shocked at this. Good for you. Regarding, "he's quiet so he's not going to piss off every world leader" And why exactly shouldn't ever world leader be pissed at us? THEY SHOULD BE PISSED AT US. And if their priorities are so fucked up that they care more about the president's twitter habits then his actual actions then they are just as fucked up and absurd as you on the topic. Regarding, "He's sane so he won't say shit.on tv like he can pardon himself" Jesus fucking christ. When I think about the problems this world is facing and the fact that you consider trump saying something stupid that has no real world effects what-so-ever as being important I want to throw up in my mouth. Then you again you immediately discredit your own point 2 seconds later when accurately saying, "NOBODY takes him seriously." Either nobody takes him seriously (which is true, at least when it comes to the sane) or I need to piss myself when he says something dumb. Those 2 things can't coexist simultaneously. Regarding, "BTW, I'm the founder..." Cool for you. I am amused that you think this makes you saying stupid shit anymore relevant. But it really isn't about that is it. You just want to jerk off to your own ego. Fucking pathetic. Regarding, "get on board with a man of the people working for real change?" Are you fucking retarded. Literally the only thing I've been addressing is your desire to make Pence president. Is that your "man of the people working for real change?" Because that is what I've been talking about despite your desperate desire to change the conversation from that.
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Joel regarding, "you're going off on people left and right with long drawn out rants." Sorry for bothering to tell you why what you say is dumb. Stop saying dumb shit and I will have no need to do so. Sorry for being longwinded. Some of us have more to think and say than can fit on a bumpersticker. Sorry if I'm angry when it comes to politics... it is a side effect of understanding. But don't feel too bad about it. I at least think enough of you to bother trying to address you intelligently if not politely, which is far more than I can say about anachore. Regarding, "Get your own YouTube channel if you've got the solution" Would you accept this type of dumb as fuck thing if it were said to you? Should I be allowed to mindlessly dismiss what you say because you don't have a youtube channel? Or would you see and understand that is complete fucking garbage "logic" used to distract and deflect from substantive points rather than saying something not dumb as fuck? Regarding, "PROVE IT" That's what I was doing by pointing out how Trump and Pence are not different in any sort of substantive way when it comes to policy. That was already me proving my point as opposed to saying moronic shit such as, "Get your own YouTube channel." Regarding, "Ego" Are you fucking kidding me? Do you really want to pretend that you weren't just jerking off your ego when bringing up that shit about yourself that had nothing to do with the topic at hand? I suspect not actually. Denial is a powerful thing.
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torch regarding, "After trump goes to prison, we should just have a special election and elect Bernie." While Bernie should be our president that doesn't mean I think we should just ignore what the constitution has to say on the topic especially when it is quite clear. I assume that you are just fantasizing about Bernie as president which I understand. Still I think that saying we should all take a piss on the constitution for political reasons is a terrible idea.
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Regarding, "you'd understand the clear logic in what I've said." This is the extent of your "logic." You just assert stupid fucking shit and back it up with word vomit. I have an impossible time telling the difference of your intellect with the average Trump supporter. Regarding, "I didn't bother reading your verbal diarrhea" If you say so. That said I can't tell the difference because you haven't done anything differently here then before. Good luck with the whole dumb as fuck thing you have going on. We are living through the movie "Idiocracy" sadly.
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