Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Trump Sides With Bernie, Blows Up McConnell's Relief Deal With One Speech" video.
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@TheHuxleyAgnostic Regarding, "Forcing the vote won't get you M4A "now". " I don't care in the slightest. I mean, I want it now and we should have it now but getting m4a immediately is hardly the only way we "win" the battle.
Regarding, "At best, you get the vote, it fails, and it gives you ammo to use against anti M4A candidates in 2022" This is way more than enough for me to want this to go to a vote.
Regarding, "Worse, you don't get the vote" This is hardly worse. It's actually what we have this very second.
Regarding, "you paralyze the House" LMFAO What? This sounds like nothing more than silly fearmongering based on nothing. Citation required.
Regarding, "propaganda against the progressives" Again this is already the status quo so there is nothing lost by trying to get a vote.
Regarding, "progressives won't let them get minimum wage passed" So we should let the possibility that silly arguments like this "progressives won't let them get minimum wage passed" stop us from fighting to get nice things? And that makes sense to you?
Regarding, "won't let them get lowering social security eligibility passed" If corporate dems try to make arguments like this it only makes them look terrible. That's bad how exactly?
Regarding, "whatever else they can use to make it look like progressives are hurting the people" You mean like they are already doing right now and nothing changes?
Regarding, "they could even orchestrate losing the speakership to McCarthy, and blame progressives." To be speaker you need a majority of votes. So how do you think they orchestrate mccarthy as speaker? By voting for him? Because that's the only way mccarthy becomes speaker. Or if progressives vote for mccarthy but they obviously aren't going to do that either.
Regarding, "Jimmy's plan isn't 100% risk free." Then give me a single risk that I can't easily swat away as nonsense.
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@TheHuxleyAgnostic Regarding, "If a house speaker isn't elected, the house is paralyzed." But a house that won't even vote on m4a isn't paralyzed?
Ultimately if you know anything about pelosi you would understand that she WILL bring m4a to a vote if it means the difference between her being speaker and her not.
Regarding, "No bills would be brought up to vote on." I don't care. Do you know what they do actually like to pass?
Regarding, "Corporate Dems could just keep putting up Pelosi as their candidate for speaker, and if you keep making protest votes for someone else, the house will stay paralyzed." LMFAO. This would absolutely not happen. If it did I like you worry about I don't care. Let them explain why not voting on m4a is worth "paralyzing" the house.
Regarding, "You just need enough no shows, or abstentions, to lower the threshold needed to win." Wait, it's our fault if they don't show up to vote or some shit? I have trouble taking you seriously.
Regarding, "Have 9 corporate Dems play sick. Have 3 threatening to abstain." LMFAO. You sound the same type of idiot who would be the first ones blaming progressives for this.
Regarding, "Not sure someone who doesn't know how the government works can swat away anything on the topic." LFMAO. Really funny all things considered. Do the Koch brothers pay you for this crap? Or are you just a useful idiot for the establishment? Pelosi doesn't want this. She thanks you for your bullshit and stupidity.
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