Comments by "Clint Holmes" (@clintholmes2061) on "Jordan In Berlin: European Responds To Medicare For All Bill" video.

  1. No it isn't. But it should be in a country that is the richest in the history of the world and thinks that being able to carry a gun is a right.
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  2. Adkins regarding, "How is private healthcare a failure?" Look at the number of uninsured. Look at the cost. Look at the outcomes. That is how it is a failure. Regarding, "How is capitalism a failure?" Capitalism is fine for most things but there are a few things, like sick people, that others should not be able to get rich off of.
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  3. Adkins regarding, "What do you mean look at the number of uninsured?" Wow are you dense. I'll try to explain it so that you might be able to understand the obvious. In a country where millions and millions of people do not have insurance it is a problem especially if that country is going to treat people when they get sick. As much as you might want those people to just die the fact of the matter is that, in this country, because it is the moral thing to do, we don't just let sick people die (mostly). That cost is already spread out among everyone paying into the system. And since everyone benefits from a system where if they get sick they get treated it is common sense to make everyone help pay for that system especially when it is far cheaper to pay for preventative medicine as opposed to emergency medicine. Regarding, "They just didn't purchase insurance." In case you haven't realized the cost of private health care is out of control. Just because it is available does not mean that everyone can afford it... especially in a country that likes to pay its workers as little as possible. Regarding, "So you want Govt to forcefully tax everyone and insure everyone?. Is that what you call as everyone insured?" Yes dipshit. Despite your whine the fact of the matter is that the government is already taxing me and spending my money and I would prefer that if they are going to do so they spend my tax dollars on something I actually want and need like healthcare instead of just bombs. EVERYONE NEEDS HEALTH INSURANCE. Nobody can safely go without it. Since we all need it I want the government to makes sure everyone has it. That, to me, is good government. No doubt to you this is tyranny or some other bullshit.
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  4. Adkins regarding, "helping hold the country back from progress" Yes. Absomotherfucking lootely. Because you are blinded by your nationalism. You seem to think that America is the only country that has anything to offer in any aspect of society. Because you are blind to the simple, obvious truth that started this conversation that private healthcare is a failure. We only need to look at the United States health care system and compare it to other countries but you are incapable of doing that because to you nobody has anything to offer other than America. That apparently America is great because of something intrinsic rather than how it conducts it's business. In the United States we leave millions of people uninsured even thou we pay far, far, far more for health insurance per person than other countries that don't leave millions of people behind AND they get better health care results. At least the for profit health insurance industry is able to make their billions every year even though they offer NOTHING of substance to the health care industry. I'm sorry I don't have the time or ambition to tell you what the rest of the world has to offer. I really don't have any time or ambition to keep talking to you. Like I said before you are clearly hopeless and I am being a fool for continuing to waste my time on you. (That said I quit you.) At least you are an American right. Dumb as fuck but you can think you are better than everyone else in the world because of the country your parents fucked in.
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  5. Regarding, "America has more than 320 million people. No country with more than 300 million people has universal healthcare. None." The number of people in a country is irrelevant. The fact that America has 320 million people means that there are 320 million people to help pay for it. Regarding, "When it comes to medical innovation, the United States is the world leader." There is nothing about health care being privatized that has anything to do with this. American can still innovate medicine and provide it to everyone at the same time. Regarding, "with 57 percent of that coming from private industry." That private industry is profiting BILLIONS, every year, off of sick people. So what that they paid for some of this. People are still going to try and take care of the sick, as they should even without a for profit health industry that gouges us and whose sole purpose is to make money, not care for the sick. Regarding, " I do believe we have to find a way to get affordable healthcare to every single American." I don't even know what to say about this. I find this hard to believe since you seem to think, at the same time, that doing so is the devil.
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  6. Adkins regarding, "You didn't explain anything new." No. I didn't. I never said I did. That is why I think you are fucking moron working against progress and I have little tolerance for you. Regarding, "To cure homelessness... (stupid point)... Do you think this is a good idea?" No. How about you try to stay on point instead of trying to change the conversation. Regarding, "the government would seek to limit spending by forcing down payments to doctors and pharmaceutical companies" You are quick to point out your hypothetical point seem oblivious to the actual fact that private health care industries sole purpose is to make money. That isn't hypothetical like your BS talking point. A good government... like the type I want and would work for would be willing to pay health care industry providers what they are worth. They just wouldn't be willing to gouge the public the way the Martin Shreli's of the world are currently allowed to. Regarding, "while scrutinizing treatments for cost-effectiveness." Yeah... like that isn't currently happening with the for profit private health industry. So your argument to not progress is because of something that ALREADY FUCKING HAPPENS might happen. Regarding, "profit motives always lead to bigger cost effectiveness and control." Except this is complete bullshit because of facts. Americans pay far more for health care than anyone else in the world and it isn't even fucking close. Are you intentionally lying or just stupid? Regarding, "There will be no patient flexibility" Patient flexibility? Are you kidding? I talk about millions uninsured. I talk about the fact that costs are out of control. I talk about results that are not as good as the rest of the world and you are talking about flexibility whatever the fuck that is suppose to mean. What? The flexibility to die if I get sick? The flexibility to go bankrupt if I get sick? Sane people don't give a fuck about this. If you are worried the government is going to be picking your doctor for you or some bullshit then I don't really know what to say other than the fact of the I currently can only go to a certain number of doctors. I can't, under my current insurance plan, go out of network. So, again, you are scared of shit that is already going on. Regarding, "We have to fix the healthcare system but the evidence is clear govt run healthcare is not the perfect answer." There is no perfect answer and I'm not interested in waiting for one because it will never happen. The fact of the matter is that single payer is better than what we have because of the easily provable facts I've already mentioned (number insured, cost, outcomes). Regarding, "You guys are hell bent on turning this country into a socialist paradise." Just generalized bullshit smear. I am talking about one specific issue.... health care. I even said that capitalism is just fine for most everything. But there are exceptions and, again, sick people is one of them. Only soulless fucks and brainwashed morons think getting rich off of sick people is moral and acceptable. But I guess I just think it would be a "socialist paradise" if we made a commitment to treat the sick without bankrupting millions, ignoring millions, and letting some get rich off of a BS provably shit system that is failing despite your obliviousness to it. Regarding all of your bullshit misplaced nationalism. Just because the USA does it doesn't mean it is good. "What have they achieved?.Have these countries contributed anything to mankind?" No. Nothing. The rest of the world is worthless and only the USA has done anything even though the USA is only about 400 years old. Regarding, "A space research?" Do you really think only the USA researches space? Regarding, "world's best schools." As is the case with us you get the best of the best when you are rich. But I dare you to do a quick google search of something like how does the us education compare with the rest of the world. You might be surprised at what you learn. Regarding, "I am trying to find if anything good about these nations.I couldn't." How about I give you one thing that is specific to what we are talking about.... THEY PROVIDE HEALTH INSURANCE TO THEIR PEOPLE WHILE WE LET MILLIONS GO WITHOUT INSURANCE.
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  7. Adkins you are fucking hopeless. It only sucks that you are helping hold the country back from progress.
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