Comments by "antonyjh1234" (@antonyjh1234) on "The Young Turks"
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I disagree that we can't do anything. The lawn is the largest irrigated crop worldwide, that we water with filtered water, fertilise and cut with a fossil fuel machine, so it looks nice, and grow nothing edible. Not sure of your daily kwh electricity use, but there's 10.6kw in a litre and 40.12kw in a gallon of diesel, yet no-one thinks about a sunday outing could be a fortnights energy if they'd just stayed home and had a picnic in the park instead.
There may be no answers for the current system, the same energy consumption to be expected to be continued so all the debt can get paid off, it can't happen but probably will, all govts are lying, they don't want the world to slow down, they are complicit in keeping the same system working, they know we could change tomorrow but how do you stop all countries? Africa will be almost half the world by 2100, how do you stop them having the things the modern world has?
As far as doing something I suppose a country/person doing less but still having good lives, would be an example to others and we are products of our environment..... as long as you know the time frames of what would be the worst for you or the planet, will never be seen if that succeeded and then people in the future will have to fight the people who say "it was never going to happen"
I don't think there is pretending, there are realistic systems that could be implemented, getting people to like reducing consumption overall, 80% might be hard and then you'd have to change the whole economic model and that might be the thing we can't do anything about, but global warming, easy peasy.
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No, that tipping point was for resources/population etc from the club of rome, nothing to do with global warming. But, you realise there are different tipping points right? They should be called thresholds sometimes, once they reach this temperature threshold, this is the tipping point for it to not be recovered, the area, will change from what it is to something else. Like a roller coaster, the temp going up, and once you reach the tipping point, it's all down from there and you'd have to have pretty good brakes to stop on that vertical, so as the heat goes up, the ice goes down, removing homes for existing animals
Don't be daft, the new temps will turn to runaway hothouse will stay around for hundreds of thousands of years, ice age is where we were going and thank goodness we have something that controls the planets temperature, but we know how fast we were warming, we know we jumped 55% post 2010, and this year and next year could see another 55% at least, that's huge on a earth time scale, I mean even if people don't think the predictions from a hundred years since saying these things would happen are to be believed, we still have to talk about the warming.
AT 5c warming which could happen in the next 100 years it will take 330 years for 10% of the ice to melt, 7m/22ft, which means half the world needs to move over the next few hundred years, a snail's pace in human scale but coming nonetheless.
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Oh you're making more than one, ahem, comment.
At 5c it will take 330 years for 10% of the ice and 2049 years for 100% of the ice to melt, that is incredibly fast on a geological time frame, will humans adapt, sure there will still be humans near the poles, but to think something that is going to happen I think 20,000 times faster than any plant has experienced before. It's not really about us dying out, it's the whole food chain for all the animals, and such drastic change for the plants they die out.
Surely if we can't stop because we have to understand, it is choice, we will mostly die out..
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