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IV The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes
which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely
different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and
pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you
tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like
slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next
moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows
so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but
agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step
forward, your amazement was great the next day. [He] had not the
slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old
nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly
challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except
that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn’t know what to be more
amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.
...Gradually I began to hate them.
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@TheComp_Troller "In our part of the world, where monogamy is in force, to marry means to halve one’s rights and to double one’s duties. When the laws granted woman the same rights as man, they should also have given her a masculine power of reason. On the contrary, just as the privileges and honours which the laws decree to women surpass what Nature has meted out to them, so is there a proportional decrease in the number of women who really share these privileges; therefore the remainder are deprived of their natural rights in so far as the others have been given more than Nature accords.
For the unnatural position of privilege which the institution of monogamy, and the laws of marriage which accompany it, assign to the woman, whereby she is regarded throughout as a full equivalent of the man, which she is not by any means, cause intelligent and prudent men to reflect a great deal before they make so great a sacrifice and consent to so unfair an arrangement."
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I've been reading Plutarch and pretty often he has the wives giving speeches like:
"Brutus, I am Cato's daughter, and I was brought into thy house, not, like a mere concubine, to share thy bed and board merely, but to be a partner in thy joys, and a partner in thy troubles."
"But she, without consternation, and, indeed, without fear, replied: "Dost thou think me, Dionysius, such a mean and cowardly wife that, had I known beforehand of my husband's flight, I would not have sailed off with him and shared his fortunes? Indeed, I did not know about it; since it would have been well for me to be called the wife of Polyxenus the exile, rather than the sister of Dionysius the tyrant." The tyrant is said to have admired Theste for this bold speech. And the Syracusans also admired the virtue of the woman"
It seems ancient women knew it was the duty of wives to stand by their husbands through hard times. Anything less would be shameful.
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@W0Y4K "The System has played a trick on today’s would-be revolutionaries and rebels. The trick is so cute that if it had been consciously planned one would have to admire it for its almost mathematical elegance....
...The university intellectuals also play an important role in carrying out the System's trick. Though they like to fancy themselves independent thinkers, the intellectuals are (allowing for individual exceptions) the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group in America today. As a result, their impulse to rebel is particularly strong. But, because they are incapable of independent thought, real rebellion is impossible for them. Consequently they are suckers for the System's trick, which allows them to irritate people and enjoy the illusion of rebelling without ever having to challenge the System's basic values."
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The Bible never condemns the actions of a soldier following orders on a battlefield. In fact, the New Testament has examples of soldiers who had faith in God—Jesus commended a centurion’s faith in Matthew 8:10; and another centurion, Cornelius, was saved in Acts 10. These men of war were not rebuked for performing the duties of a centurion, nor were they told they must change professions.
Most tellingly, some soldiers came to John the Baptist as he was baptizing in the Jordan River. The soldiers asked John, “What should we do?” This would have been the perfect opportunity for John to tell them to stop engaging in warfare, stop killing, or stop being soldiers. Instead, John replied, “Don’t extort money and don’t accuse people falsely—be content with your pay” (Luke 3:14). Being a soldier is not inherently sinful.
Paul uses the soldier life as an illustration of spiritual truth (see 1 Corinthians 9:7 and 2 Timothy 2:3). Other references mention battles and warfare (see 2 Corinthians 10:4 and 1 Timothy 1:18). Ephesians 6 contains an extended comparison of the Christian life and warfare (verses 10–17). If being a soldier (and doing the things soldiers are required to do) were sinful, it is unlikely the Holy Spirit would have used soldiering as a metaphor for anything good.
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Clarence Spangle *this world is now, at least for the most part, at the disposal of Marx on the one hand, and of R0fsch1ld on the other... This may seem strange. What can there be in common between socialism and a leading bank? The point is that authoritarian socialism, Marxist communism, demands a strong centralisation of the state. And where there is centralisation of the state, there must necessarily be a central bank, and where such a bank exists, the [-------], speculating with the Labour of the people, will be found.* ---Mikhail Bakunin
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@jameshitt3263 "Nothing is more evident than that modern capitalism is just as subversive as Marxism. The materialistic view of life on which both systems are based is identical; both of their ideals are qualitatively identical, including the premises connected to a world the centre of which is constituted of technology, science, production, "productivity," and "consumption." And as long as we only talk about economic classes, profit, salaries, and production, and as long as we believe that real human progress is determined by a particular system of distribution of wealth and goods, and that, generally speaking, human progress is measured by the degree of wealth or indigence—then we are not even close to what is essential..." -Julius Evola
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Look up Dr. Pierre Kory and Dr. Peter McCullough - they've both treated hundreds of covid patients and have concluded from clinical experience that a combination of 1v3rm3ct1n, inhalant steroids, anti-coagulants and IV vitamins are more than sufficient for treating covid. Better than the vax, actually. And basically anyone under 50 years old with no health conditions is at miniscule risk from covid. Ask yourself: why are Big Pharma, governments and the MSM censoring this potentially life-saving information? Why are they insisting that everyone, regardless of risk category, take this experimental "treatment" with no long term safety data and many documented negative side effects? Why are they setting up what amounts to a digital surveillance grid that will give the central planning bureaucrats total control over people's movement and ability to participate in the economy? Why are they setting up checkpoints with police and military and setting curfews? Does covid magically become more infectious after 10pm? Why did an Australian health minister come out and say "Now is not the time to talk to your friends and neighbors, you might spread 'disinformation'?" Why did a Canadian health minister admit "lockdowns are to prevent people from gathering, talking to each other privately and spreading 'disinformation'?" The answer is we're in the middle of a coup d'etat. They're permanently dismantling our rights to freedom of movement, freedom of speech, free association and bodily autonomy. All justified by a campaign of fear mongering disinformation to keep average people isolated, cowering in their homes and too distracted to see the larger picture of what's unfolding before our very eyes.
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@11:18 Why are the feminists in bed with the Islamists?
This article offers one theory - [trigger warning! gender stereotypes ahead!]
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1300
"The English author Fay Weldon has noted that “For women, there is something sexually very alluring about submission.” And as Hedegaard dryly notes, if submission is what many women seek, the feminized Danish men are boring compared to desert sheikhs who won’t allow you to go outside without permission. Muslims like to point out that there are more women than men in the West who convert to Islam, and this is in fact partly true. Islam means “submission.” Is there something about submission that is more appealing to some women than it is to most men? Do women yield more easily to power?"
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"It is also a well-known fact that many women blame themselves for abusive husbands, and make excuses for their abusers’ behavior. Has the West adopted some of the negative traits of the female psyche? The newly feminized West gets attacked and assaulted by the Arab and Islamic world, and continues to blame itself, while at the same time be fascinated by its abusers. It is thus behaving in the same way as a self-loathing woman towards an abusive man."
In the words of Pat Benetar:
"Well you're a real tough cookie with a long history
Of breaking little hearts like the one in me
Before I put another notch in my lipstick case
*You better make sure you put me in my place*
Hit me with your best shot
C'mon, hit me with your best shot"
I always thought that line was weird. Perhaps in their heart of hearts feminists actually resent Western men for giving in to all their demands so easily?
Osama Bin Laden said "When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, they will naturally want to side with the strong horse."
If we combine this Brussels Journal article, Pat Benetar song and Osama Bin Laden quote... maybe the feminists are sick of running roughshod over their western men, wearing the pants so to speak, and want the strong horse of Islamist gender roles to... put them in their place?
brb need to shower and wash my brain from WrongThought.
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Certainly the notion everywhere prevails among us too, and preaches itself abroad in every dialect, uncontradicted anywhere so far as I can hear, That the grand panacea for social woes is what we call "enfranchisement," "emancipation;" or, translated into practical language, the cutting asunder of human relations, wherever they are found grievous, as is like to be pretty universally the case at the rate we have been going for some generations past. Let us all be "free" of one another; we shall then be happy. Free, without bond or connection except that of cash-payment; fair day's wages for the fair day's work; bargained for by voluntary contract, and law of supply-and-demand: this is thought to be the true solution of all difficulties and injustices that have occurred between man and man.
To rectify the relation that exists between two men, is there no method, then, but that of ending it? The old relation has become unsuitable, obsolete, perhaps unjust; it imperatively requires to be amended; and the remedy is, Abolish it, let there henceforth be no relation at all. From the "Sacrament of Marriage" downwards, human beings used to be manifoldly related, one to another, and each to all; and there was no relation among human beings, just or unjust, that had not its grievances and difficulties, its necessities on both sides to bear and forbear. But henceforth, be it known, we have changed all that, by favor of Heaven: "the voluntary principle" has come up, which will itself do the business for us; and now let a new Sacrament, that of Divorce, which we call emancipation, and spout of on our platforms, be universally the order of the day!—Have men considered whither all this is tending, and what it certainly enough betokens? Cut every human relation which has anywhere grown uneasy sheer asunder; reduce whatsoever was compulsory to voluntary, whatsoever was permanent among us to the condition of nomadic:—in other words, loosen by assiduous wedges in every joint, the whole fabric of social existence, stone from stone: till at last, all now being loose enough, it can, as we already see in most countries, be overset by sudden outburst of revolutionary rage; and, lying as mere mountains of anarchic rubbish, solicit you to sing Fraternity, &c., over it, and to rejoice in the new remarkable era of human progress we have arrived at.
- Thomas Carlyle, Latter Day Pamphlets
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The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Journo had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.
I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.
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@rachelbranch2097 Aleksander Solzhenitsyn: "At what exact point, then should one resist the communists? ...how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The police would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."
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They call themselves The Lotus Eaters as a reference to The West's Classical heritage. Interesting. I've actually been reading Plutarch's Lives of The Noble Greeks and Romans. One can gain a lot of insights into the cultural norms and values of those ancient societies from reading it. For example, in the book about Alcibiades life:
"Hipparete was a quiet and loving wife, but was so constantly insulted by her husband's amours with foreign and Athenian courtesans, that she at length left his house and went to her brother's. Alkibiades took no heed of this, but continued in his debauchery.
It was necessary for her to deliver her petition for separation to the magistrate with her own hand, and when she came to do so, Alkibiades laid hold of her, and took her home with him through the market-place, no one daring to oppose him and take her from him. She lived with him until her death, which took place not long after Alkibiades sailed for Ephesus. In this instance his violence does not seem to have been altogether lawless or without excuse, for the object of the law in making a wife appear in person in public seems to be that she may have an opportunity of meeting her husband and making up her quarrel with him."
Imagine living in a society like that. Obviously I don't approve of his behavior and I don't think Plutarch did either but imagine living in a society where men have that much power. The complete opposite of today.
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@winbombs6117 Yes on a biological level that's how it is. Sperm is cheap and eggs and expensive. Men start at zero and need to struggle to set themselves apart from the crowd. However Bill Burr said a line that's always stuck with me: "They don't want to run the race with you, they want to stand at the finish line and pick the winners." There's just something about that that pisses me off.
Personally in my mid 20's I went back to school to get a better job, after doing a useless arts degree and floundering for a bit. Common story among millenials. I had a longterm gf at the time whom I wanted to get serious with, partly the reason I went back to school. She wasn't in a rush to get married and have kids but she ended up dumping me partly because I couldn't provide her with the middle class lifestyle fast enough. She was getting FOMO and comparing me to her friend's boyfriends who were already working full time and didn't want to wait the 2-3 years for me to finish my studies and get started on my career.
Shortly after that, I got the job I was aiming for and spent the next couple years working 80hr weeks in the oil field to pay off all my debts, save up a down payment for a mortgage, etc. Now I'm moderately successful, probably not successful enough to be the target of gold diggers, but the thought of sharing what I've built with a woman who only "stood at the finish line and picked the winners" pisses me off. Early investors get higher returns because they take on more risk and help a business get off the ground. If I'm to provide anything for a woman I want to know she'd endure some risks, inconveniences, hardships, etc. with me instead of only being with me because I can provide a middle class lifestyle.
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@brando3342 Do you even read the Bible bro? "To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.” -Genesis 3:16
"Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything." -Ephesians 5:22-24
"A woman a should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner." -1 Timothy 2:11-14
"Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." -1 Corinthians 14:34-35
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@dragineeztoo61 it wasn't always like this. Having to "win back" your wife or convince her of anything. Consider this anecdote from Plutarch. Imagine living in a society like this:
"Hipparete was a decorous and affectionate wife, but being distressed because her husband would consort with courtezans, native and foreign, she left his house and went to live with her brother. Alcibiades did not mind this, but continued his wanton ways, and so she had to put in her plea for divorce to the magistrate, and that not by proxy, but in her own person. On her appearing publicly to do this, as the law required, Alcibiades came up and seized her and carried her off home with him through the market place, no man daring to oppose him or take her from him. She lived with him, moreover, until her death, but she died shortly after this, when Alcibiades was on a voyage to Ephesus."
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"Neither for music, nor for poetry, nor for fine art, have they really and truly any sense or susceptibility; it is a mere mockery if they make a pretence of it in order to assist their endeavor to please. Hence, as a result of this, they are incapable of taking a purely objective interest in anything; and the reason of it seems to me to be as follows. A man tries to acquire direct mastery over things, either by understanding them, or by forcing them to do his will. But a woman is always and everywhere reduced to obtaining this mastery indirectly, namely, through a man; and whatever direct mastery she may have is entirely confined to him. And so it lies in woman's nature to look upon everything only as a means for conquering man; and if she takes an interest in anything else, it is simulated—a mere roundabout way of gaining her ends by coquetry, and feigning what she does not feel. Hence, even Rousseau declared: Women have, in general, no love for any art; they have no proper knowledge of any; and they have no genius"
-Schopenahauer
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