Comments by "afcgeo" (@afcgeo882) on "CarGurus" channel.

  1. Stop accepting "loaded" top packages for loan from manufacturers! They don't reflect the car most people get and that's important! Less than 10% of Foresters sold today will be the model you reviewed, which means 90% will NOT be what you tested and 90% of viewers will feel lied to or cheated.
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  2. Just so you know, you can’t see over the steering wheel because you set it too high. It’s smaller so that it can be set lower.
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  3.  @bsxboy Most I’ve seen have been rental fleet vehicles, so I suspect that you’re right. I like it in concept, but at 5’9 I can’t comfortably fit in the back. Those A pillars also block a huge section of the road at intersection, which is a safety issue.
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  4.  @bextar6365  acceleration feel is actually important in every day driving. People who aren't professionals don't have split second reaction times and often get themselves in trouble by not getting out of a situation quickly enough because of their poor timing. As speeds on highways increase (and they've been increasing steadily since the 1950's), the build on the highways hasn't kept up. Accelerating out of the shoulder to 70mph+ speed of right lane drivers is becoming harder and harder and can become flat out dangerous when facing that truck that's hauling at you and won't move over. You also need to account for the ever-increasing weight of the vehicles and additional passengers and cargo. This vehicle does 0-60 in 9.9 seconds with just 1 person in it. That's fine. It will need about 12 seconds once with 5 people aboard and some stuff in the trunk. That's slower than almost all cars on the highway. Lack of power can also be an issue when off paved roads or in deep snow, especially when trying to go up an incline. The car can literally be too big for it to go up a steep hill with loose traction, despite its AWD system. While excessive power is... excessive, every vehicle should have sufficient power for it to be safe and practical. This vehicle is borderline to insufficient.
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  5. Auto-up for the other three windows is a well-known safety hazard. It’s remarkable that Mazda doesn’t even care. Children’s arms have been broken by that feature. Almost no manufacturer has it anymore.
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  6. Can you provide the link to this government’s test that gave the Terrain 3 stars on rear side protection please? I can only find 5-star ratings on the IIHS and NHTSA.
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  7. Keep your paranoia out of factual reporting. We get enough Fake News on tv.
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  8. So you were never buying a Forester anyway since the turbo never came with a manual. Why even comment?
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  9. Even though GM offers DEEP discounts on these, you’d still be silly to buy one.
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  10. Ivan Vojt you can’t sell a leased car. You don’t own it.
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  11. You should have adjusted the steering wheel, not the seat.
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  12. Bextar636 No, you literally can’t since the base price of the Highlander is just as low.
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  13.  @bosse641  Privilege? You have some issues. I remember you... always making insane comments. Definitely a troll.
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  14. Not safe? How is it not safe? The GC is perfectly safe. It may not be IIHS "Top Pick", but it's still very safe. The NHTSA rated it 5 stars. The don't even compare the two classes against each other and have odd tests that have always been called out by owners, manufacturers and the government. For example, to get the "IIHS Top Pick", a car must have automatic braking (front crash prevention). Your Compass trim may not even have that feature, so it wouldn't actually make "Top Pick" anyway. The GC is taller, so the center of gravity is higher, so you can't drive like a maniac or you'll flip over. That's the case with any tall vehicle. It has all the crumple zones and air bags a car can handle. The IIHS rated it "Marginal" and "Poor" on its controversial "Small Overlap Front" test, even though it then commented that the likelihood of serious injury of those passengers is low. The Small Overlap tests primarily the A pillar and the area below it, and is an unlikely type of a collision. Even the 2018 Toyota Rav-4 performed "Poor" on that test. The Grand Cherokee has the latest (for 2017) active safety gadgets. It also has a very reliable RWD system, a reliable engine and a resale value you'll NEVER get on a Compass. If you think you'll have a baby soon, you'll really appreciate the rear seat space for the rear-facing child seat. The Compass doesn't really have enough space back there for the front passenger to still sit comfortably. I would definitely go with the used GC.
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  15. It's hard to take a comment that's this full of spelling and grammar issues, even after editing. I can't even read in full. It makes my head hurt. Consider never posting again, anywhere.
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  16. People do decide on safety ratings. Mostly people who don’t know cars or how they’re tested... or science. They don’t understand that the standards are extremely silly, subjective and arbitrary. They don’t actually know that some impacts that are tested are so rare that they pretty much only happen in labs.
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  17. You should get the turbo. It’ll give you more engine oil by diluting it with gasoline.
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  18.  @TruthHasSpoken  yes, actually. There are a few highways where I live in New York where you have a stop sign on the very short on-ramp and you need to go from 0-60 in a sprint. If you ever stop and you ever go at least 60mph, you do, at some point go 0-60. That's just simple comprehension.
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  19.  @TruthHasSpoken  Right... my issue is that no one should praise a car on its ability to satisfy the lowest common denominator and nothing more. The truth is, lots of people simply don't have empty highways with 1/4 mile on-ramps, perfect traction and empty roads to drive on. Subarus aren't made for that anyway. Most Subarus are sold in New England and Colorado where they drive at high altitudes (where naturally aspirated engines are even weaker), the roads are old, narrow, twisty and full of traffic moving at high rate of speed, even in poor traction conditions. This is what Subaru has always excelled at. These conditions. It isn't popular in Arizona or Florida or California. It's isn't made for those places. To be honest, there are far better cars for those areas. This car needs more power to successfully navigate the conditions I just mentioned. So far, according to your experience, it's fine for the lowest common denominator, but let's face it, so is everything else.
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  20. In my area (NY) I rarely see Equinoxs. I see more Terrains (though also rare). Here, it’s mostly Rav4s, CRVs, Foresters and Escapes, in that order.
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  21. AWD DOES add a little horsepower in the Prius. 196hp for AWD or 194hp for FWD. AWD will give you better acceleration in low traction conditions (rain, snow, ice…).
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  22. Not even an option in North America. We only get the 2.4 litre petrol with 180hp. It still struggles.
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  23. I’m sure it’s valuable to YOU, but sales figures say it’s not very valuable to everyone else.
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  24. It is a cheap Jeep. No one is arguing that. If you want an expensive Jeep, there are those as well.
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  25. Buick has always been a luxury brand. Right now it’s targeted at Lexus/Acura/Infinity buyers while Cadillac aims squarely at Jaguar/Mercedes/BKW folks.
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  26. Fair enough, but the engine it has in it is simply not producing enough power, given the growing weight of the vehicle. A 0-60mph time of 9.9 seconds is over about 2 seconds slower than the competition.
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  27. EVs have even weight distribution and a lower center of gravity, so a single drive axle affects them a little less.
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  28. That is correct. Turbos as well. The top engines will become plug-in hybrid.
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  29.  @lewisw.6768  Just adjust the steering wheel down. It’s small, so it can be set lower. It’s the same way in Peugeots.
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  30. Josh Tavenner Body-on-frame or unibody is a pretty uneducated argument and makes no factual sense. A 1983 Caprice Classic was a body-on-frame. The GC has a V8 with much more power and lower low gearing, is shorter and has a better turning radius. Don’t even start me on its on-road superiority. Plus, the GC has an electronic limited slip diff that locks up when needed or placed into 4LO.
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  31. That engine is going away, being replaced by the new 4 cyl turbo, but either one would destroy sales of the Cherokee, so it won't happen. I do wish the car would gain a new transmission, even a CVT. Anything to increase acceleration at low speeds and fuel economy. Neither is competitive.
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  32. Ivan Vojt You get at least 20% off of these at the dealership anyway, making the resale value actually pretty good.
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  33. Ivan Vojt Cars aren’t investments. You don’t buy them to make a profit. I’m just saying that the true resale value (percent of actual cost) as opposed to the perceived resale value (percent of list price) is pretty good.
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  34. Michael Perkins Go ahead and explain how cruise control can avoid accidents. I’ll wait.
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  35. Perhaps the battery was low. It's a low capacity battery, which is why the MPG improvement is almost non-existent.
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  36. Slave labor? lol
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  37. Jaime San Miguel it’s a lot faster than the Outback. People who like to drive fast like better handling, crisper steering and yes, manual transmissions. All things the Sportwagen does a lot better than the Outback. The Outback is bigger and has much more ground clearance. They’re very different vehicles.
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  38. Except your RDX will be bare bones.
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  39. The Volt is a hybrid.
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  40.  @michaelcharnley-heaton4063  Oh wow... the Compass is MUCH cheaper in the States and the Stelvio is a bit more expensive. The Compass, with the manual transmission, FWD starts at $21,845 and the very top trim (High Altitude) AWD, 2.4 petrol, with every imaginable option, including panoramic sunroof, sat nav and all safety gadgets and an electric boot door tops out at $34,860, but you can likely get up to $5,000 off at the dealer. The Alfa starts at $42,590 for a RWD with only a choice of white or red colours and that's it. So for similarly equipped cars, I could pay $30k for the Jeep or about $48k for the Alfa. As such, they're not actually comparable here, at all.
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  41.  @kurtratzlaff8732  first off, Jeep doesn't offer a 4x4 vehicle. It only offers AWD vehicles, which is what you bought. Second, it is designed to stay SOLELY on-road. ONLY models of Jeeps that are Trail Rated are the ones that have the Trail Rated badge on them. Yours does not. I could take my Camry off-road and get it stuck, but then I'd be as much an idiot as you are.
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  42.  @kurtratzlaff8732  neither has a 4x4 system, actually. They are all All Wheel Drive. The Train Rated Compass has more ground clearance, underside body protection, heavier shocks that allow for more articulation, Active Drive Low system that includes a 20:1 crawl ratio, Hill Descent Control, high air intakes and extra water sealing for water fording, and better approach, departure and breakover angles. Yes, Jeep is actually fooling people into thinking that all of their systems are 4x4 because legally there is no distinction, but mechanically there is and uninformed buyers can fall victim to assumptions. Yes, in my mind that's false advertisement, but you won't be able to sue them for it because again, there is no distinction, legally, between AWD, 4WD or 4x4. If all 4 wheels receive torque at some point, any of the monikers are legal to be used. Meanwhile, the only Jeep vehicle that comes with an actual 4x4 system is the Wrangler. The rest get different kinds of AWD systems. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/jeep-s-awd-and-4wd-systems-explained-106633.html https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a24663372/all-wheel-drive-four-wheel-drive-differences-explained/
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  43. Wouldn't a Grand Cherokee or Edge then be a better car for you since they both have potent V6s and more cargo space?
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  44. Norm T none of the models sold as many as Honda sold CR-Vs, that’s considering that GM sold most of them to rental car fleets. They sold so many Equinoxes to fleets that for 2019 the offered a fleet-only package. https://www.automotive-fleet.com/313773/2019-chevrolet-equinox-offers-fleet-only-options You’re trying to say that together, the Equinox, Terrain and Envision outsell the CR-V, but separately, none of them have, EVER. They’ve never outsold the RAV4 either. While the three have common underpinnings, they are sold separately, styled differently, packaged differently, priced and marketed differently as well. For all intents and purposes, they are different cars from different brands and must be compared separately. Meanwhile, Honda only sells to ZipCar, which amounts to just a few hundred CR-Vs a year. They sell to no other corporate or municipal fleets. It’s their corporate strategic view and well publicized.
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  45. Power management does a lot, so do aerodynamics, but the biggest boost is the larger battery that gives you a power boost and more electrical storage.
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  46.  @MaxUlfhednar  no... 1800hp and for $18k brand new.
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  47.  @oskarngo9138 There is ZERO chance an ICE Camry will last longer. Hybrids are FAR more reliable than pure ICE engines.
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  48.  @bextar6365  how are you talking about quality in a brand new car that's only a month or two old? Let's talk about your Santa Fe in 3 years, when every piece of plastic (and there's lots of it) is squeeking, rattling and falling off.
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  49. The problem is that as good as this car is in its top trims, it's not good at all at its lowest trims and even at the top trims, it's prices so high, that you're simply better off getting a Grand Cherokee, Highlander or even an Explorer, depending on whether you need the third row or not. Speaking of the third row... it's pretty useless, yet you cannot get with 2-row seating, robbing you of cargo space you actually want/need in a CUV. The car also lacks the ground clearance of the competition, yet handles like a big rig in the corners. You'd think its center of gravity would be lower, but it just isn't. Then you have the dreadful and vastly underpowered 4 cylinder. What this car really needs in a plug-in hybrid drivetrain where the battery takes up the space that's currently given to the 3rd row. The Diesel is known to be loud and a bit slow in Europe.
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  50. It’s frustrating that Europe and Asia get this in a hybrid and we don’t. While I can’t get an EV (I’m an apartment dweller), I won’t ever go to a fully gasoline engine again. This removes the Kona from my list. The Corolla Cross is still King.
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  51. This is a car REVIEW, not a look. His job is to talk about the car, not just show it.
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  52. Stephen Hendricks if the “utility” in the CUV isn’t important to you, get a sedan. CUVs are made for utility.
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  53. Norm T the Chevy Equinox Premier 2.0 AWD MSRP is $35,700 USD, without any additional options or accessories. I’m really tired of your ignorant and lying comments on here. You really need to get a life.
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  54. Norm T literally NO ONE uses folded front seats, which is why no one makes them. To be fair and honest, you have to compare apples to apples, but then you don’t like fair or truthful, do you?
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  55.  @kenromito  and they always are, aren't they? I don't know of any Hyundai/Kia that doesn't sell well below the sticker price, but then it begs the question... why not simply offer a lower sticker price and less incentives? Wouldn't it attract more buyers?
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  56. You never actually achieve 60mph? Never once went on a highway? I mean you do realize that everyone goes onto the highway at some point, right? When it comes to ApplePlay, you have to download the ApplePlay app onto your phone to connect, just like with any ApplePlay car. As far as moonroofs are concerned, you can get the base version without one and to combat glare, there's a great cover that you can pull closed. Avis/Budget buys in bulk and they buy the Premium trims because they get a better resale value on them than higher trims. Heated seats don't come as accessories on any Subaru.
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  57. Bextar636 The Santa Fe is a non-luxury CUV that goes against the GMC Terrain and is similar in price.
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  58. The Trailhawk comes with all-terrain tires and is the only trim in the range to get the "Trail Rated" certification from Jeep. Specifically, Jeep calls them All-Season On/Off Road Tires. You can get Goodyear Wrangler SR-As, Falken Wildpeak A/T3W, Lexani LHHT-206, and Lionhart Lion Claw HT in your size. That's just off of Tirerack.com There may be additional options. The Falkens look most aggressive out of the ones listed.
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  59. “Stable at high speeds”? Yeah, as long as you’re on perfect pavement. Drove on a highway with some spring pot holes (got an SR5 as a rental) and the thing kicks out its rear end at each one you hit if you’re going above 40mph. No thanks! The GC Trailhawk beats this hands down, on and off-road.
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  60. F CHINO-jr. unfortunately, it isn’t. It’s slower than the Altima turbo, with a smaller trunk as well and the interior space is almost exactly the same, but it’s big, bulky and heavy, with poor grip in the corners and a bit of body roll. It’s no sports anything anymore, just a Nissan Taurus.
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  61. Hybrids, by their technological nature, improve city driving above all else. If most of your driving is in the city, a hybrid is going to translate into lots of fuel economy. Right now, this is just one of two (the other is the Toyota Rav4) compact CUV hybrids on the market, even though it's the biggest selling passenger vehicle class in North America. The Rav4 is, arguably, a much better hybrid because it provides better driving characteristics and better fuel economy than the Nissan, but... the Nissan feels more refined, is probably more comfortable for most people and larger than the Rav4. If your driving isn't mostly city, don't bother with this one. The CR-V would serve you much better in most circumstances, offers better performance, better handling, better fuel economy and more utility than the Rogue or Rav4. If your driving is mostly highway, the GMC Terrain Diesel should also be a consideration, but the $3,000 premium over the gas engines means that if you're leasing, you won't earn the money back in fuel economy (Diesel is also almost 30% more expensive than 87 octane gasoline). The 2019 Rav4 is something to consider and the CRV (if you live in warmer climates due to the 1.5 engine issue). If you're performance-minded, you should look at the Escape 2.0 EcoBoost (Titanium only now) and the Mazda CX-5. The Hyundai Tucson Sport seems to be a very acceptable compact CUV for budget-minded people and the Cherokee Trailhawk is for those looking for off-road capability. However, the ultimate compromise (a car that's good at all, but not great at any) is probably the 2019 Subaru Forester, which does above average in all categories, despite not being the champion in any one category.
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  62. The engine itself seems good and reliable, but the car is entirely too heavy for it. I don't understand the need for a Compass anyway. Should have just paid proper attention to the Renegade and Cherokee. The Renegade is too small for most Americans and is too boxy to get decent fuel economy on the highway, while the Cherokee is simply too heavy and has too little trunk space (even less than the Compass!) Jeep should restyle the next Cherokee to look like the next Grand Cherokee, delete the V6 and tune the 2.4 engine to produce slightly more torque, while changing out the transmission for a ZF-8. Then they need to make the Renegade a little less boxy and delete the Compass.
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  63. Because he changed jobs, duh!
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  64. It is driven solely by a 152hp gasoline engine when at highway speed, which is very little power for so much weight. It is also one class larger than the Crosstrek. The Rav4 is the same class as the Forester, so compare that.
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  65.  @oskarngo9138 For a dose of facts, Costco’s hot dogs are actually good, objectively. Another fact: a hybrid is no lower to the ground than a non-hybrid. They have the same exact ground clearance. There are also no exposed hybrid drive components below except for a small electric box that connects power to the rear, but it’s shielded and it’s tucked away higher than other things like the exhaust system.
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  66. Three more things: 1. The 2.5 is now Direct Injected, which suffers from carbon build-up on top of the pistons. That build-up eventually causes loss of fuel economy and performance, and eventually leads to engine failure. There is no fix for it except to overhaul the pistons, which is VERY expensive. 2. The 2.5 is now equipped with an auto start/stop feature. The starters for the engine have been re-designed to compensate for it and are tested/rated for up to 5 times the regular lifetime starts. However, count your drives and see if you end up stopping more times than that per drive. I sure do. This means the system will likely fail with regular usage. 3. The Subaru CVT, though arguably tougher than most others, has been known to fail after just a few thousand miles’ use, especially if you use the car off-road or to tow. CVTs don’t handle torque well. Keep these things in mind before buying a new Forester!
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  67. No N yet…
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  68. EVERYONE can hear it on every hybrid. Gasoline engines aren’t silent.
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  69.  @dadical3534  You can tell by the ICE engine going silent.
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  70.  @dadical3534  No, but I’ve had a prior Prius, own a current Rav4 hybrid and have rented a new Prius.
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  71.  @dadical3534  I can feel the engine turning on and off if I’m sitting at idle, but not while driving. I can hear it while driving, I can feel the added power, but I can’t actually feel it cranking. It is very smooth. Plus, you need to realize that a feeling is subjective. Notice that no one argued about your feeling, just the fact that everyone can hear it.
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  72. Jaime San Miguel It isn’t, unless you like to drive fast.
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  73. Ivan Vojt that’s not how it works in the United States. When your lease is over, you still don’t own the vehicle. You’d first have to buy it out, then you can re-sell it, but most of the time, the car will be valued less (wholesale) than your remaining balance, so it will not be beneficial to do that. To make it simple: almost never will an offer on it from a dealer be higher than what your buy out price will be, UNLESS you overpaid on your lease.
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  74. Piersandro Mannino The reason is that GM overprices EVERYTHING, hoping some idiot will pay the sticker price or close to it. However, if you bother to negotiate, you can easily knock off 20% off of MSRP on most GM products (or more) and then they’re priced very competitively. That discount takes care of any excess depreciation over the first 5 years and premium materials are all over the cabin. You’ve never seem or touched one, which is why you don’t know. They have a very nice engine, no CVT and a capable AWD system too.
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  75. Michael Charnley-Heaton and how much was the Alpha? The 2.0 will NEVER happen. The Compass is a budget sub-compact crossover. The Stelvio is a luxury high-performance crossover that competes against the Audi Q5 and BMW X3.
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  76. Hi! You're narrow-minded!
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  77. First off, they don't burn oil. Some cars of every brand do. Go get it fixed. Second, the AWD system isn't all that great. You really need to educate yourself.
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  78.  @marcoparada6652  you disagree with my "perception"? What exactly are you disagreeing with? I pointed out facts and your whole comment is about your feelings. I won't argue someone's feelings of what's fast enough or not fast enough, but I will argue that some things simply are or aren't fast enough for certain outcomes to happen. Physics are physics. When you accelerate, you either can do it fast enough to achieve the speeds of the traffic flow without getting into an accident or you cannot. Your feelings are irrelevant there. You also have to keep in mind that a 1/4 mile on-ramp may be perfectly sufficient to come to 70mph within the needed time, but an on-ramp of 100 feet may not be, and before you start saying those don't exist... they do. While I'm happy that your flat, open ND driving area and your personal driving preferences accommodate the Forester's 2.5 engine acceleration, you need to understand that my Hudson Valley, New York up/down hill driving with 50 foot on-ramps with stop signs at their beginnings require more power than that. You also have to understand that some people live on mountains, like in New Hampshire or Utah or Colorado, and they require MUCH more power for everyday driving because of oxygen depletion. Those are just facts, powered by physics. Furthermore, you state, "I'll never consider a 4x4 or all time 4 wheel drive for my own car", but mention the "'12 Forester" you've driven for the "better part of 6 years." Umm... The Subaru Forester has a full-time AWD system. It NEVER sends power to just one axle. Both are ALWAYS engaged. Handling is a function of the suspension, steering system and tires. It is NOT a function of the AWD system. AWD simply gives you initial traction to get going and not get stuck in snow. It seems you don't know much about cars.
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  79. Jeff Riendeau curious as to what you decided to get in the end...
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  80.  @jeffr.3464  So instead you bought a used 3-row CUV that's actually slower than the Outback? Why blame this decision on the power delivery when it was clearly simply not the type of car you wanted? The Kia does a 0-60mph in 7.2 seconds. The Outback does it in 6.9 seconds. I don't understand people like you making comments like that.
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  81.  @jeffr.3464  Yes, people like you. People that state things are better than other things based on their preference for things that have nothing to do with the other things they're commenting on. The Legacy 3.6R's 0-60 is 7.2 seconds. You stated that you didn't like it because of the power output, did you not? You stated that was your reason for your decision, did you not? You ended up buying a Kia Sorento that is slower, did you not? Meanwhile, your ACTUAL reasoning for buying a Sorento wasn't the power output, but rather that it offered a 3rd row. People like you as in people who are dishonest.
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  82. What's horrible about the manual transmission? It isn't an off-road car. The 2.4's speed is pretty standard for the class of car.
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  83. I'm fine with the C-shaped tail lights (I don't look at them much), but this car clearly needs about 190bhp and 200lb/ft of torque. It also needs to switch over to the direct injection/port system of Toyota, while maintaining the H layout. I don't understand why others can get fuel economy out of that output, but Subaru cannot. Maybe it's the Boxer layout issue that keeps them confined to certain parameters, but I don't see how.
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  84. Bill odd, because factually, neither model has a reliability issue of note. However, a large, heavy 3-row CUV powered by a 4cyl turbo... that’s a real reliability issue.
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  85. Bill I’m looking that up and don’t see those ratings. Do you have the link? I see nothing, but excellent reviews from consumers. How would CR know the reliability of the current model year anyway? A guess based on how popular an opinion is? Look up actual reliability numbers for the last 3-4 years of the model, if the model has had no major changes.
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  86. Bill I looked at 9 different sites, actually. CR can question owners of older models, but 3 months of ownership is statistically a ZERO of a sample on reliability. You’ve got to admit that. Edmunds, Cars.com, JD Power, Motor Trend and a few others, including one Canadian and one Australian publication. They get the same GCs as we do.
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  87. James McCarty First off, that’s not the warranty term on Kias. Second, have you ever fought a dealership on warranty repairs? Most will do everything not to honor one AND you’re often left without a car for days or even weeks, while still making monthly payments.
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  88. john kout With Kia? No. With Hyundai? Yes. Regardless... I’m just one person and random examples here and there are not indicative, but the internet is FILLED with Hyundai/Kia owners having this issue. If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend they don’t exist, be my guest. I’m not that stupid though. Cheers!
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  89.  @rogermiller2805  The ZF-9 is on Cherokees, Compass and Renegades.
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  90. Those are on the Prius.
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  91. It’s nowhere near the Tucson.
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  92.  @swanblake  What's embarrassing is that Google is sending your vehicle and driving info to themselves and then selling it, which is why Toyota, BMW and Porsche refuse to add Android Auto to their vehicles.
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  93. The current Compass has an ongoing AWD issue they haven't addressed: the PTU seems to not disconnect the rear driveshaft above its intended speed, creating serious damage overtime and an unsettling hum. You really shouldn't ever compare old models and new models. It's not a sensible way of comparing things. Go drive a current 2019 model Crosstrek, Honda CH-R, and Nissan Rogue Sport to compare.
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  94.  @User.Joshua Between the CorollaCross hybrid and Camry hybrid, these two cars are pointless.
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  95. Jeep has fantastic interiors and engines, but everything else is horrific.
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  96. Kyle Martin You can’t base things on filed lawsuits. You have to see how they pan out. Unfortunately, as most manufacturers are moving to lighter weight oil and looser piston rings, the oil consumption issue has become widespread and their definition of how much oil use is “normal” has changed dramatically. You will find that FCA is very not alone in that.
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  97.  @kevin12697  neither one. Unfortunately, given the tight squeeze of Jeep's models in the lineup, it's highly unlikely the Compass will receive any new engine. It's more likely it will receive slight upgrades to the current engine and the transmission for the facelift in 2020 or 2021. The Fiat 1.4 Turbo is a terrible engine. It produces less horsepower than the current offering, requires premium fuel and is very unreliable. The 2.0 Turbo is simply too powerful and too expensive. If it was added to the Compass, it would increase the Compass sales by A LOT, but most of those would come at the expense of Cherokee sales. The two cars are very similar in size and the Compass actually has a slightly larger trunk than the Cherokee. The only thing the Cherokee has going for it right now is the engine choice.
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  98. kevin12697 Europe is not North America. They have very different market needs and regulations in Europe, so they get very different engines. They don’t even have the 2.4 available there. The 1.3T will be the upgrade on the Renegade, but is not likely to be a big seller - it requires premium fuel. The 2.4 will be the base engine.
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  99. Stephen Hendricks the CX-9 is an overgrown car and it does have 3rows. Mid-size are the Edge, Grand Cherokee, Murano, Blazer, etc. All 2-row CUVs.
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  100. Clayton Flex is a 3-row wagon. Edge is a 2-row midsize CUV though. The Honda Passport is also 3-row.
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  101. Now why are you comparing two different car classes? The Cherokee is in the same class as the Terrain and CX-5. No Jeep except the Grand Cherokee and Wranger has a good resale value. Too many reliability issues in the past 10 years. Your car may be 100% fine, but the perception has been deteriorated in the last 10 years, hence the resale value. The Renegade, Compass and Cherokee are for leasing, not buying, if you need a brand new car. Otherwise, buy a used one and avoid 2015 models (major transmission issues on the Cherokee).
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  102. The 2019 Rav4 beats this car out in every respect, but everyone can have an opinion.
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  103. How is it he didn’t mention the 3rd, and in my opinion, best powertrain on the Camry: the hybrid?!
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  104. What 10K penalty? The car costs $1000 extra.
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  105. Michael Perkins except the back seats ARE cramped. Can’t fit a rear-facing car seat behind a person in a front seat and can’t seat a tall person behind a tall person. Plus, very little light gets in back there, so it feels dark and cramped.
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  106. Michael Perkins no issue for the Forester, Cherokee or CRV.
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  107. The 2019 is noticeably slower than the 2018 and that's a real issue.
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  108.  @william66653  you're asking for reliability on a less than 1 year old car? Why????
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  109.  @amymarkoff1592  windshield wipers need to be replaced every 6 months and the originals are always cheap and shoddy on all cars.
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  110.  @kenromito  you're not a consumer if you aren't buying it.
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  111.  @kenromito  great! Question then... how much did it cost you?
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  112.  @kenromito  was it for the same trim as shown? You don't have to share, but I'm curious as to how much they're actually discounting, percentage-wise.
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  113.  @kenromito  thanks for the info! $38k seems like a good amount for an SXL, though I do feel like maybe the Jeep GC Limited would have been a better value, but not everyone likes RWD as the primary system and it's not so great on gas. $40k for the SXL is definitely better than $47k, but I still can't fathom spending that amount of money on a Sorento. We mostly have LXs at my job (car rental) and although they cost under $30k, they're really cheap and incredibly underpowered. Fine for a rental for a weekend, but not to own.
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  114. Paul Ho actual compact CUV
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  115. I wouldn’t bother with this car. I’d get a fully loaded Camry Hybrid or Altima AWD instead, depending on whether you want AWD or not. If you want a faster sedan, aim for the Mazda6 Turbo or Accord 2.0.
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  116. Anomize23 Actually, while body on frame trucks do great at lower speeds and crawling through very deep holes, they do horribly at high speed pot holes. This has been proven countless times. Any engineer will laugh at your comment. You’re the kind of guy who thinks the old steel cars are safer in collisions than modern cars and no amount of science will prove it to you.
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  117.  @Andsleeter  the Falcan tires are all-season tires, so why would you expect them to perform as well as winter tires in snow?
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  118.  @Andsleeter  Here is the FCA service bulletin on the issue. It's a VERY common issue that FCA is trying to play off as a "normal" thing, so they don't get sued. That, unfortunately, isn't a protection against lawsuits. I agree, it's a major problem. https://chrysler.oemdtc.com/682/engine-oil-consumption-guideline-2012-2016-fca-us While manufacturers are dumbing down engine designs and allowing for oil to be burned in order to have engines with less friction and more fuel economy, these issues end up costing these manufacturers in reliability and resale value down the road. Both have been proven to directly impact new car sale values. Unfortunately, they have little choice since new safety regulations keep making cars heavier, but new environmental regulations keep requiring that these cars run more efficiently. This is why electric cars are becoming a thing. That said, no car should ever have oil burning at that rate, EVER. It's a piston design flaw and unfortunately isn't going to go away unless a full engine re-design is done.
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  119. Plus the Trailhawk ends up cheaper than either one.
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  120. canonlybeme4life Does GM really have a history of caring about people’s safety?
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  121. He was talking about tires, not wheels, and it’s because they’re 195 width, which is thin for 19” wheels.
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  122.  @johncipolletti5611  Tirerack has them
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  123. I hate to say it, but I agree with you. Although the Compass is a perfectly good vehicle and is designed well to compete against other sub-compacts, it seems to kill Renegade and Cherokee sales. If they were to get rid of either, the Compass should stay, but otherwise... they should just improve on the Renegade (make it a bit more sleek and fuel-efficient) and Cherokee (tune the 2.4 for better torque, replace the ZF-9 with ZF-8 and phase out the V6, create more trunk space and a more GC look).
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  124.  @rightlanehog3151 And I wish the Cross hybrid was also in this comparison, ad I think it would beat out both of these cars.
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  125. Markus Williams and the Grand Cherokee, but does it really compete with any of them? I’d rather get any of the listed instead of this one, even with the turbo.
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  126. That's par for the class though.
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  127. The issue is that the vehicle is priced like the Compact CUV segment, making it a poor choice for any category. Hence the majority of these ending up in rental car fleets across North America and not in people's driveways.
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  128.  @ATRichard  Much of the discount that made your car to be $25k applies solely for lease value purposes. If you were to buy one, it would end up costing a bit more as the discount wouldn't apply. They do this to encourage leasing, which makes dealers more money on the same vehicle.
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  129. Let’s be completely clear: Dynamic Cruise Control is NOT a safety feature... at all. Like all other cruise control, it is simply there for convenience. It does not mitigate or prevent collisions or injuries, in ANY way. To anyone.
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  130. Michael Perkins Automatic braking works whether you’re using cruise control or not. They’re completely independent features, though they both work off of the same radars/cameras. They’re “paired” solely for marketing value. In fact, automatic braking has been around longer than this type of cruise control. Adding that cruise control creates zero additional safety.
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  131. Michael Perkins Are you serious? That’s what autonomous braking does, not cruise control. Sorry. Try again.
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