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Comments by "Helen Trope" (@heliotropezzz333) on "The Guardian" channel.
People seem to think Jeremy Corbyn is not strong, but it takes a lot of strength to withstand the pressure he has had and not to buckle but to stand by his principles. You don't have to sound aggressive to be strong.
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It's a good job the WW2 generation did not have such defeatist attitudes.
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There's an old joke - an Englishman and an Irishman are in conversation. The Englishman says ' I was born British, I am British, and I will always remain British'. The Irishman replies 'Jeez, have you no ambition at all?'
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That says he's a democrat, he abides by what his party supports overall in the Manifesto. His policies are costed with the sources of the funding identified - unlike the manifesto of the Conservatives and I don't think he "oozes uncertainty". He's not been used to being a leader for long but he's certain of his principles and what he believes in and that comes across clearly in his speeches which are delivered with enthusiasm. He's not had to do U turns on his manifesto, unlike the Conservatives.
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Floopy Doopey That's not true, but the sad truth is the immigrants that arrive seem more educated and aware than the native population. It's depressing.
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Sadly if Corbyn loses with the most radical change programme since 1945, I fear the Labour Party will turn back to some middle of the road leader - a Tory lite leader, and we'll be back to politics that don't change anything for the better for the majority of people. This is a chance, that if people don't take they won't get again for maybe a long time and maybe never, and it will end up with more gloom despondency and apathy. I don't think people will turn away from Brexit until they've voted Boris in and experienced the reality. It will be too late by then and the nation will carry on being more divided and more bitter and violent towards foreigners and political opponents. That's the only weapon the Tories will have left at that stage, to deflect criticism from themselves and their failures.
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Free from dictatorship and tyranny and racism which would have been the result of the Nazis taking over. Do you know no history?
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It's depressing how there are Hitler apologists still prepared to rear their heads. If you enjoy living under dictatorship there are still plenty to choose from.
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I'm sure that's the intention. It's the USA model that Conservative governments admire.
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I remember watching a video of a GLA meeting where Khan was proposing increased stop and search to combat knife crime, and Shaun Bailey was against it, shouting at Khan that it was a racist policy.
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@32446 According to the Tory press.
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Cyril Sneer. How aptly you have named yourself. How do you know he was obese and feckless when he was working? The cheapest food is full of fat and sugar because those are cheap ingredients, but they make people fat if they live on a diet like that for too long.
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Easy to say, but he can't even deal with much lesser issues today.
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No, they were fighting to keep Britain free.
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@specialized500 Exactly so. It's that sort of ignorance I was pointing out.
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Floopy Doopey Because the Tories are allowing that to happen. How can you laugh at that? It won't be so funny when you have to wait 12 hours to have a broken leg fixed.
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Like a horrible downward spiral that will make even more people lose belief and stop voting. It's awful.
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@sirsiralot7635 So no one will take account of your views? Come on! George Orwell was not advocating non voting.
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@wecandothiswarriors Why not? The people who didn't vote in the Referendum were enough to have changed the result if they'd voted. It's hard to respect non voters. They can be the difference between leaving us in the poop or not.
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@Joe Box Have you read the Labour Manifesto? Thought not. If you don't take the opposition seriously and vote for change you're lost because there's no hope otherwise.
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IDS was unbelievably stupid and out of touch.
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Labour councils having to implement cuts to local government imposed by the Conservative government are getting the blame (clever of the Tories) and Conservative cuts are falling more heavily on Labour areas (clever of Tories). As the Conservatives have replaced Labour here, now the responsibility for cuts will be seen in their true colours and in the light of that experience there is a chance for voters to vote again on June 8th 2017. Read the summaries of the manifestos before voting please.
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I hope everyone who wants Labour to win is going to vote today. Warm words won't do it.
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IsleofSkye. From your moniker it doesn't sound as though you live in London's East End either. I worked there for some years and had to visit clothing factories as part of my job. These were mostly staffed by Muslims who were always very polite and hospitable to me. I haven't walked down those streets late at night but then, as a woman, I wouldn't walk down any streets late at night unless they are well lit streets near my home.
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I worked in the Elephant and Castle area too - a very interesting area. I came to London, from elsewhere in the UK, for work reasons and I couldn't live anywhere else now being a city person. It's a pity that so many original Londoners left London but not all did. You get used to diversity. There's maybe some sense of loss for what went before but then again the past is a different country as they say. I miss diversity when I leave London now. It seems very odd to go to places where everyone is white English. I think that many people who seem to fear it most live in places where there is hardly any but I understand people's dislike of rapid change and sadness if they feel a loss of the community they knew. If they'd stayed though, it would not have been lost to them to the same extent.
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I'm more of an optimist. People do mix more and become more culturally attuned over the generations. It's a timing thing unless there are barriers against it - unemployment and racism would be barriers for instance. My background is Norman and Celtic - one that oppressed the Anglo Saxons and the other that was oppressed by the Anglo-Saxons, but there's no point getting exercised about that now is there?
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Many people also can't afford to buy a house in London but want to have one before they start a family. That's another reason to move out but I also think many of those who moved out moved for a better quality of life, better housing for their money, cleaner air, less crowded more laid back life. Fortunately we bought before the ridiculous inflation in house prices - had to save until my thirties to do so though. I don't live in the inner city -too expensive, too much concrete and noise and and too many cars - but a few miles out where it's greener. If I was a young person now I could not hope to buy anywhere in London. In a way immigrants enabled them to do that because they were ready to buy their houses at a time before it was fashionable to move into and "gentrify" some of these areas.
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She was proved wrong about his ability to increase the labour vote, communicate and be clear. At least he was better at doing it than the Tories.
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+Mike Rees Everyone who voted did not vote for this government and plenty of people did not vote at all.
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The "alternative" history is an anti-semitic version from the Nazi view of history.
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Nazi alert!
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@TheWeepingDalek It's not as if they had a choice and Napoleon was hardly a democrat either. Still no choice.
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As they used to say on a certain talent show... vote, vote vote, cos your vote counts!
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It's not all filmed in the North. A lot of this is in the Midlands.
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@specialized500 Yes, they are north of London but they are not The North. Australia is north of New Zealand I believe but it is not in the Northern hemisphere. Only someone London centric views the country in terms of its relationship to London, and I say that as a Londoner myself.
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@specialized500 That's a test isn't it? There used to be a saying in London that The North was everything north of Watford, but Watford itself is not the north.
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@specialized500 It's only north of hampton
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@specialized500 Aw shucks, you are too kind. It was nothing :-)
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Not paying workers for work done is a form of theft. Remind me again of the punishment for theft under sharia law. I don't know why certain middle eastern countries seem to love these high rise buildings. They are terrible places to be if they go on fire.
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Not in London. Young people still can't afford housing.
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I don't understand why people think Boris Johnson would be good and don't see that he would be a disaster. Boris is pretty ultra right wing in spite of his joviality. He doesn't have policies aimed at benefiting the common man. He's also not very competent, blundering about ineffectually and his principles can change according to what's beneficial for Boris. He works very much in his own interests. He's also a bit of a scumbag in his personal life - a womaniser and a faithless husband. The strange thing is that this is the kind of area that will suffer as a result of Brexit. They probably don't realise how much of the affluence of the area is dependent on close connections with the EU. They are suffering because of Tory policies and austerity, not as a result of being in the EU.
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I don't think he's genuine. He once shouted at Khan, who was proposing to increase stop and search to combat knife crime, that it was racist. Now, before the election he seems to be all for it.
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This is why people should vote for Jeremy Corbyn in the next election.
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There should not be targets and people affected should write direct to Ministers and the P.M. Don't let them ignore the problem. Don't let them off the hook. Create a letter storm. They have a requirement to reply.
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Subtitles not needed. Voters still supporting Trump are the racists and those thick as a brick.
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If Fetterman pronounces the r and the tt in his name, you should too, interviewing journalist.
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@joeyq95 I know that. I'm British too.
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