Comments by "Helen Trope" (@heliotropezzz333) on "Brexit deal will be ripped apart to protect peace in Northern Ireland, reveals Liz Truss" video.

@elizabethfermor344 No, the EU just applies the rules that relate the third countries which have been the same for third countries before Brexit. Britain just voted to be a third country, but now wants to have what it had as part of the EU. Wants to have its cake and eat it. The EU is their club with their rules and the UK no longer belongs to it or pays the membership fee.
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@manishdyall4779 How is it imperialism when the UK government signed up to it?
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That headline is Orwellian.
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The Northern Ireland protocol was designed to protect peace by protecting the Good Friday Peace Agreement. Ripping it apart is only giving in to DUP's illegitimate threats that there will be violence from their side and they won't allow power sharing through taking part in the Stormont Assembly if they don't get their way. The DUP's motive is to break or undermine The Good Friday Peace Agreement and that's not likely to lead to peace.
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@Leroy JenkinsI'm not in denial. Unlike you I find the facts and don't read propaganda. The trade agreement is no more in the UKs favour than if we had stayed in the EU. It's less so. The EU has such trade agreements with other countries too. It's normal, not a victory for the UK. It avoids us paying trade tariffs but we still have to pay customs charges and deal with much more expensive bureaucracy. In any case the trade agreement is now being jeopardised by Boris;s unwillingness to stick to the withdrawal agreement that he signed. The EU is preparing to take the UK to court.
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@Leroy Jenkins It's not true that Frost ran rings around Barnier. We didn't get anything more than third countries normally do when reaching agreements with the eu. I don't know what you think it is we want but the UK economy has suffered badly from being out of the eu. There is more bureaucracy, customs charges and admin costs, plus the agreement with France to take back illegal immigrants is no longer in place causing headaches for the Home Office.
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@manishdyall4779 It was an unwinnable war, an expensive war and since the Irish had resisted the British invasion for 900 years, even in times when a price was on their heads and they were hunted down like wolves, it was unlikely that they would be fully crushed. The only way through the situation, if you know anything about Irish history would be a peace agreement. The IRA was only revitalised in the late 1960s because when the catholic population marched for equality and civil rights, which they'd never had in NI before, Ian Paisley and his cronies laid a plot to violently attack the march. At that point people turned to those who would defend them from the violence and so a cycle of violence reasserted itself. It was never a black and white, good and bad conflict and no moral victory was possible other than through a peace agreement. In the end I believe the British government at the time became embarrassed that they appeared to be on the side of people in NI who would not allow all of its citizens the civil rights that people in the rest of the UK took for granted
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@Leroy Jenkins What did Frost achieve? How have the EU capitulated? Which planet are you living on? Which propaganda sheet do you read?
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It's not going to create peace though. Quite the opposite. The NI Protocol was designed to protect The Good Friday Peace Agreement. The DUP who want the government to rip up the NI Protocol, is hoping to undermine the Good Friday Peace Agreement by this means, as they never signed up to it and are now arguing that there will be lack of co-operation from them in terms of getting the Northern Ireland Assembly functioning, and possible violence if the Protocol is not scrapped. It is they who are the blackmailers and disrupters and they don't have the support for this from the majority in Northern Ireland, but the government is twisting the story and giving in to them. Boris signed his agreements in bad faith as he never intended to honour them and told the DUP as much. The NI Protocol has resulted in the NI economy performing better than elsewhere in the UK because they are still in the single market for goods trading. The government doesn't like that it shows up Brexit as a failure in the rest of the UK in comparison.
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@chrisl6291 You use terminology I don't recognise and have never heard used in Britain. Service payment? Are you referring to benefit entitlements to top up low wages for those who have low wages that are not living wages? People anywhere in the UK are entitled to that but not 'all members of the UK'. In Nov 21 it was reported that 'The value of trade between Northern Ireland and Ireland has rocketed since Brexit with cross-border business increasing in both directions, official data shows. Figures released on Wednesday by the Central Statistics Office (CSO) in Dublin show that the value of imports from Northern Ireland surged by 60% in the first nine months of 2021 and are now valued at €2.8bn (£2.37bn). Trade in the other direction has also increased, with a 48% rise in exports to Northern Ireland from the republic, bringing the total value of trade to €2.57bn for January to September 2021.'
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@chrisl6291 What are you one about? Look this up because it's nonsense. Are you talking about the budget that comes from the UK government to the UK countries? You're just not making sense.
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@chrisl6291 I've heard of the Barnett formula. I understand it to be this: 'The Barnett formula is used by the UK Treasury to calculate the annual block grants for the Scottish government, Welsh government and Northern Ireland executive. It therefore determines the overall funding available for public services such as healthcare and education in the devolved nations.' It's expressed in terms of £1 per person but it does not go to individuals. It goes to governments within these UK countries to spend on public services for their populations. This is how it's calculated 'The Barnett formula calculates devolved budgets by using the previous year’s budget as a starting point, and then adjusting it based on increases or decreases in comparable spending per person in England. For example, if spending on healthcare in England increases by £100m, the Scottish government’s budget would increase by £9.7m since Scotland’s population is 9.7% of England’s. Similarly, the Welsh government’s budget would increase by £5.6m and the Northern Ireland Executive’s budget would increase by £3.4m. Since the devolved block grants are not ringfenced, the devolved administrations would be free to spend the additional money on services other than healthcare. The Barnett formula only applies to public services that are devolved, and therefore applies to slightly different areas of spending in each nation.' I don't know where your definition comes from.
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