Comments by "Helen Trope" (@heliotropezzz333) on "James O’Brien's Brexit Interview With Tory Minister - In Full - LBC" video.

Yes I subsequently listened Andrew Brigden's actual statement about this and it didn't seem to depend on him thinking that he had any Irish ancestry. He just assumed that because he could travel to Ireland without a passport, he was entitled to Irish citizenship if he applied for it. Lol. Under the Good Friday agreement, I understand people in the North of Ireland can hold both British and Irish passports if they wish. Perhaps that also muddled Andrew Brigden's thinking. It's amazing how dim some of these politicians are though. Dominic Raab, currently standing for Conservative Party leader and therefore de facto P.M admitted he didn't realise the importance of the port of Dover for UK/EU trade, until he was appointed Brexit Secretary, a post he soon resigned from, but a subject he now feels qualified to deal with as P.M. Heaven help us! A person with Irish ancestry (parent or grandparent) can apply for Irish citizenship and I have my application ready, because I can see us heading for a hard Brexit now which would be disastrous.
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He is undoubtedly ignorant, and he may be getting muddled because for some time (not sure how long) it's not been necessary for people travelling to Eire from the UK, and vice versa, to have a passport, but that's not the same as qualifying for citizenship.
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@yuccatree4298 Well that's the Tory Party for you. It's full of ignorant bigoted morons, only mildly less so than the DUP. I doubt they'll get any change to the backstop agreement so it will be a choice of hard Brexit or Remain. If you think they are a concern for you, they are also a concern for us. We are being governed by them. Most of the public would not support any extremes they are proposing. The heartening thing is that David Davis is not longer the Brexit Secretary. Patel fell from grace a while ago over trying to make secret deals with Israel contrary to government policy so their influence is diminished. I fear that Boris Johnson may be elected leader if the MPs don't get rid of him before the final selection, as the final selection is done by party members who think he is popular and for hard Brexit.
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@yuccatree4298 Strangely enough I read a book called 'Hell or Connaught' and realised there were even worse people than Cromwell in Irish history though he did some terrible things. Some of those who followed him were for genocide. I think people these days have a more nuanced reading of history. It's not all presented as black and white, but it's one of those subjects that the present government and many young people regard as 'useless' so it's less and less popular as a subject to take. Both my parents were Irish but I was born in England. We are all basically the same peoples in these islands. It was the Normans who conquered England and were in control when they also conquered Wales, Ireland, and attempted to conquer Scotland. and they used a tactic of divide and conquer so they allied with some Irish clans and then conquered them after conquering their enemies first. (The Romans did the same thing with the British tribes when they conquered England) After that Britain followed up by trying to consolidate their grip on Ireland and keep control of it. (I've never read a sadder history than Ireland's. There seemed to be no light at the end of the tunnel for century after century). I see no intention in the UK to do Ireland down now,. Things have changed and the attitude to Ireland is a friendly one. However it's true that politically Britain will put her interests first (as other countries do) if they believe there's a clash with the interests of neighbouring countries. It should be possible to avoid a clash with good will on both sides, I hope, though Brexit in the current UK political set up is a bit of a political nightmare apart from the economic damage that will occur. I have listened to JOB on LBC on youtube now and again. He makes some good points though his attitude can be annoying at times.
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@tennis5011 He was, but he accepts the results of the Referendum.
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@yuccatree4298 Yes that's the origin of the word. They were given that name by their opponents The Whigs, I think and it was meant as an insult. The word Whig was also an insult and meant country bumpkin. I'm not sure what Stephen Fry video you are referring to.
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@yuccatree4298 I'll have a look at the video. You know cultural influences come from all over what was The British Empire. Those cultures have influenced Britain which is why our most popular dish is curry and we have lots of Indian words in the language like pyjamas, shampoo and bungalow. It doesn't always mean something negative. Sometimes Brtain has adopted concepts or words they've admired or learned from or that are lacking in our own language or expressed better in another. Tory may be one of those and we have the term Boycott as well. I'm sure there are many others. Britain is also a very diverse country now. There isn't a single English or British view of things.
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@yuccatree4298 Sorry I can't find the link from your earlier post. Could you possibly copy and paste it to me in reply?
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@yuccatree4298 What a brilliant video. I think it's spot on. I will be sharing it with any deluded Brexiteers I come across.
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