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Comments by "Helen Trope" (@heliotropezzz333) on "Andy Burnham ‘open-mouthed’ after government unveils tier 2 support ‘to help London’" video.
They weren't 'allowed' marches. The police dispersed the crowds on both occasions.
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* Ever heard of Marcus Rashford and his campaign for kids to get vouchers for food during the holidays until next Easter? Unfortunately the Tories voted the proposal down yesterday.
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It's the Tories that were keen on having Mayors and pushing local areas to vote to have them. Mayors can represent and can stick up for their areas but I think the Tories just thought dealing with one person per area, it would be easier to buy them off or ignore them.
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@gordonmcdonald1064 Not at all. The government has a raft of nasty measures now it want to impose on London and the Mayor is resisting.
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@riansillett2771 The government has been cutting and reducing benefits for years and for Universal credit people have to wait 5 weeks before they get any money at all. The proposal was only asking for an extension to Easter 2021 during the Covid period.
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??? Andy is a northerner.
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Not if it breaks the law. Communists are not in power. (I hate to break it to you that it's a Conservative government in power and making the laws.)
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Democracy's not dead. It just f*cked up voting this government in
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He is a spokesperson. That's his job, and he is complying with the lockdown. He can't personally control everyone. The police are there to tackle rule breaking.
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@Theexcellorator64 Well they can't disperse them before it happens. I'm guessing the marchers didn't put an advance request to the police to march legally.
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Or rather genuinely stand up for their areas.
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No it's not. Why state this divisive rubbish? The Tories have a raft of bad measures they want to impose on London to recoup their money. The Tories have backed down over no support for tier 2 areas, (London is one of those) but they only do that when the Tory MPs whinge that it's going to hit their Tory constituencies, otherwise they're be o.k about hitting Labour areas like London, Manchester and Liverpool.
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Where did you get that figure from? The government announced that it was £22m if I recall correctly and that works out at £29 per person. Other councils got £29 or £28 per person also.
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@andyshepherd4120 So was this Daily Mail article wrong? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8860289/Boris-Johnson-plunges-Greater-Manchester-Tier-Three-lockdown.html
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@andyshepherd4120 P.S. O.k. The BBC seems to have the latest info. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54628770
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In WW2 you would have had the compulsory blackout and been issued with gas masks and they didn't whinge then. In times of crisis we need to pull together not whinge about inconvenience. Without some controls it would be like Mexico which has dead bodies stacked in lorries on the streets because the morgues were full, and people queueing to get their deceased loved ones into cemeteries. In India loads of people couldn't get into hospital for treatment because the hospitals were full. Want to go down that road do you?
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Isn't 80% and 67% the difference between the furlough scheme which ends at the end of October and the new scheme that takes over after that?
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He fought but the law is against him. The government imposed the lockdown. The thing is not to vote clowns into government the first place.
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@mattevans4377 Then people who are not clowns should join political parties to make them more representative and competent. However they are not all clowns.
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@mattevans4377 They do enter to some extent, but people like to vote for 'handsome' toffs it seems. Snake oil salesmen.
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@taniayager3361 * Rashford tried to help but the government voted down his proposal yesterday.
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