Comments by "Helen Trope" (@heliotropezzz333) on "Daily Mail World" channel.

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  92. The money we pay to the EU, some of it comes back to the UK in terms of investments in poorer communities and the economic benefits of paying to be a member of that club outweigh the disadvantages. It's the UK government that could do something about those problems if they have the political will. The austerity programme they insist on is theirs not Europe's and the tax cuts that cause a squeeze on public services are a UK government decision not Europe's. (Portugal recovered from the banking crash without any austerity programme) It's convenient for the UK government to let the EU take the blame for everything. You'd find if we came out on a hard Brexit with the Tories in power we'd still have the same crap government that won't do anything about the growing gap between the rich and the poor because basically they represent the rich, though they are careful not to say so. They are sponsored an supported by rich vested interests and they do their bidding in Parliament. They also have their own snouts in the trough. Where do they go when their political careers are over? Director of this, that, and the other company. You have to look at the overall picture, not just one aspect of it. P.S Some of the leadership contenders in the Tory party are connected to companies that have been making a killing out of the current Brexit uncertainty. The EU is not perfect (neither is the UK political system) but there is pressure from inside the EU for reform and we'd be better pressing for that from the inside along with others. On WTO terms the economy would take a hit far larger than anything they would save from EU membership fees.
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  184.  @angrybrit7331  It's not the UK government that decides how to spend the money that comes back from the EU. It goes to projects and places in the UK that qualify under EU rules. If our government had the chance they would not spend it to rejuvanate poorer areas, as they haven't done so with the 99% of UK spending that comes under their own controls. Some of these places don't seem to realise where much of the investment comes from and they will lose it once we leave the EU. It shouldn't be looked at narrowly as a monetary transaction. We gain a lot economically by being in the EU as our economy prospers from it, more than if we were out, with no contributions to make. It's just that our government chooses not to share that prosperity fairly. The UK contributions saved from being out would more than be swallowed up by trying to shore up the areas hit by being out of that market. That's if the government were minded to use ithe money that way. They are not known for being too generous our government, because the Tories believe in 'shrinking the state' and that means not putting so much money into it as well as selling parts off or privatising services. It's not the rich that rely on public services and the jobs they provide so much so it's not the rich who will take a hit from coming out of the EU. Private sector businesses will also be hit, but rich investors don't care as they will be able to move their investments to parts of the word that are more booming and park their profits more in tax avoidance areas. There's nothing patriotic about a hard Brexit. It will hit the country hard, but rich Brexiteers hide true motives behind the fig leaf that it will somehow be better for Britain. Voters need to evict bad governments and vote in people who believe in creating a fairer society. That's the way to start to mend the situation. It's quite impressive really how Brexiteers manage to focus voters wrath on particular elements, in order to gain their support, whilst not letting them see the overall picture.
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