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Comments by "Helen Trope" (@heliotropezzz333) on "'Keir Starmer is propping up billionaires' | Jeremy Corbyn interview" video.
True, and that's his strength but also his weakness sometimes from UK voters perspectives because many of them think he doesn't care that much about the British. He would probably be great as a leader of an internationally focused body. He would like the Labour Party to be that but voters want someone who will look after their interests.
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@margaretobrien2015 I read his manifesto. I know that his policies are in the interests of British citizens as a whole, except maybe for the wealthiest, but I don't think he gets that message across personally.
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@margaretobrien2015 I think he gets his message across to a lot of people but not enough to get elected, and also the message he gets across is to those badly affected by the current state of affairs especially the younger generation, he doesn't get it across to wider sections of society. He needs to explain to them why they've more to gain than lose by voting for him. I'm not sure whether he's really interested in doing that to those audiences. If he is it does not come across to them. Many people like farmers, fishermen, industry and others are badly affected by Brexit (I know many of them voted for it). What does he have to say about Brexit? His view at the time of the Referendum seemed very much to range from fence sitting to reluctant remainer. I know he's not a great fan of the EU, but Brexit is no solution is it? What is his proposed solution? I don't want to upset you, so I'll understand if you don't want to respond.
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@KidStarverHALVEDhisVote He didn't go up north enough really. They were labour supporters by instinct but pro Brexit because they felt left behind and had been persuaded to blame the EU for that. It really needed someone to put the argument for remain very powerfully there.
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@janewright2800 Corbyn would have been better than the Tories of course, and would have looked after people more but many people didn't believe he had British interests at heart. For instance, I was listening to a Channel 4 news interview with Keir Starmer tonight. The interviewer mentioned that after the Salisbury poisonings by the Russians, Corbyn asked the P.M, then Theresa May, if she had given the Russians what they wanted.
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@Openside 7 I think I know that, as I read his manifesto, but he didn't seem to get that message across. He should explain more how his policies are in everyone's interests in the UK (except maybe the wealthiest). It's an uphill struggle in any case with so much propaganda against him, but I'm not sure he helped himelf enough. He needs to sound more inclusive so that he reaches voters more broadly.
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@janewright2800 Asking whether she had given Putin what he wanted is not negotiation. I think Corbyn is very well meaning but naive. He thinks that everyone is basically as nice as he is. If only that were true.
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@reasonerenlightened2456 The answer is to have a successful economy in a country which produces stuff people want to buy and where workers are protected from the worst that capitalist systems can inflict on them and benefit from a fair share of the wealth they create. Labour's manifesto at the last election addressed these issues and proposed investment in British businesses especially green ones, and communications industries that would better allow people to work from home rather than moving down South to find work. That's not the aim of the Tories, which is to create as much wealth for their ilk at the expense of everyone else, regardless of the impact on the country. In spite of them always trumpeting their patriotism, they don't actually invest in British business - couldn't care less about that. Happy for foreign multi- nationals to buy it all.
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@reasonerenlightened2456 I get your point. There is no perfect system that works perfectly but regulated capitalism with protections for workers including trade unions, combined with a democratic political system seems the least worst. The Scandinavian economic model results in those countries regularly topping the world happiness index.
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@reasonerenlightened2456 Not all politicians are corrupt. It's not about faith. As I said it's about the least worst model, with the hope of progress and improvement.
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@reasonerenlightened2456 Some of those ideas are bizarre. Experience has taught that dictatorship is an appalling model of government and tends to result in massive injustice and misery, and often also violence and cruelty. I agree about a basic income though.
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@janewright2800 Absolutely not. Whatever gave you that idea?
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@reasonerenlightened2456 That never lasts though. There is always a coup or power grab by the worst element. Besides which dictatorship can lead to injustice whatever form it takes. Look at the French Revolution which was horribly bloody and vengeful, and where the revolutionaries eventually turned on each other.
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@reasonerenlightened2456 There is no perfect solution. The imperfection of men will always make it so. Your use of the word 'correct' is chilling. It reveals someone who sees the world in simplistic black and white terms.
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@reasonerenlightened2456 It's not that I'm willing to accept imperfections. It's that perfection in human affairs does not exist and I've already explained why. If you don't understand that, what can I say?
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