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@immortaltyrant2474 You seem to think I'm Irish. I am British with Irish relatives. Actually I remember visiting Ireland as long ago as the 1950s and you would be hard pushed to find any of the things you listed. It was very rural with no advanced agricultural machinery, factories or technology. That might apply to the North but not the rest. What there was of it when Ireland was 'one entity' under Britain certainly wasn't available to the native Irish (and catholic) population. From the beginning when Ireland was invaded by England and the Norman Knight 'Strongbow' would break the limbs of the defeated Irish and throw them in the sea, the quality of British rule was set.In Elizabethan times there were massacres of civilians in Connaught which an ancestor of Lord Lucan boasted about and a scorched earth policy in Munster to starve the population. Then we come on to the massacres of Cromwell, the plantation of protestant English and Scots into Ireland, the removal from the land of the native Irish except for Connaught where they were allowed to go because it was poor land. The Irish language was banned, the Irish were not allowed to own property (houses, land or a horse worth more than £5). The Catholic religion was banned. Priests were hunted and killed. Irish traditional clothing was banned. Schools and education for the native Irish were banned and they were not allowed to take any professional jobs. They were not allowed to have a vote. Most of the native Irish population were tenants, living on subsistence farming. Most of the landlords were British and many were absentee landlords. When the potato blight struck, causing famine, many landlords evicted these tenants to starve to death or emigrate, if they could afford the fares. The lack of a vote and the ban from owning property continued up until the 19th and 20th centuries respectively. I think the damage done far outweighed any benefits. Except in the North, where there was a large Protestant settler population from Scotland and England, I doubt anyone would have noticed any benefits but they would certainly have been adversely affected by being a slave nation subjected to British rule.
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Julia Lawless, Well I do remember seeing a British TV show when I was young, about some Japanese legends, and all the characters were played by English actors in Japanese costume, make up and wigs. I enjoyed it very much for what it was. I didn't think too much about how appropriate the casting was. Even today, black actors get fewer opportunities to play some good roles, when the stories come from white history, so I really don't mind them being involved. I think it helps bring the stories alive for wider audiences. Margaret of Anjou was disliked and distrusted for being a foreigner (French) so although the actress isn't French her casting does help to accentuate that she's from a different background to the others. It's a sort of metaphor, and she acts the part so well. I very much enjoyed a TV show called "Versailles" where the main characters, the French King and his brother, were played by English actors and the show was in English (with French subtitles in France). Other actors came from England, Canada and France.The French TV company decided they needed to show it to the widest possible audiences internationally because the cost of making it was so high and they could sell it to more countries if it was in English.
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3 books that made a deep impression on me as regards Irish history were 'Hell or Connaught' by Peter Beresford Ellis about the Cromwellian conquests in Ireland and the aftermath in terms of laws passed against the native Irish, the plantations and enforced migrations, and in the 19th century the books by Asenath Nicholson, American methodist social observer and philanthropist who visited Ireland just before the famine to investigate the conditions of the poor and who came back again during the famine to observe, record and help out. The conditions of life for many native Irish even before the famine were dire and unjust, and her travels and observations indicate how this was enforced. The native Irish were blamed for their own conditions but there was no way out for them. Improvements to their properties, land and cultivation merely meant their rents would be increased. They were largely socially shunned, regarded with contempt, discriminated against and exploited by the landowning class and churchmen, who were protestant descendants of planters. Even before the famine, many native Irish lived on the edge of it, relying on potatoes and little else for their meals and unable to get any steady employment. Often animals kept would need to be sold to pay rents. Hers was one of the few, observed and recorded written accounts of that period, and there are no real photographs of the famine period. She came with no particular bias except to bring the truth of the bible (methodist version of that) to Ireland, so it's all the more remarkable that she came to feel so deeply for the native Irish poor and to record the heartlessness, injustice and ignorance in her own kind in the landlord class. Her accounts are very heartbreaking. Periods of violence come and go in history, but it is the grinding awful lived experience from generation to generation that makes the history most tragic in my mind.
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I think Republicans may think this pressure to drop the NI protocol, or breaching of it, may benefit them, as NI, which actually voted to stay in the EU, will start to realise they might be better off by re-uniting with the Republic of Ireland, which is in the EU. The unionist DUP fear that too, which is why they are trying their hardest to destroy the NI protocol because that would make unity with the Republic less likely, so they think, but it would break the Good Friday Agreement and be at the expense of more fighting in the North which would cost Britain dear. Of course Boris would just not bother to have a trade border anywhere if it was up to him, but there would be consequences for that too. The USA and the EU are guarantors of the GFI.
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On 24th April I had my 4th Covid vaccination because I'm considered vulnerable in terms of Covid 19. It was Moderna. Before that, over the years, I'd had Astra Zeneca, Pfizer and Moderna vaccs in that order. The worst was Astra Zeneca, It took me about a month to get over that with the main lingering symptoms being tiredness/weakness and palpitations. I don't recall the others being as bad but my recent Moderna jab seems worse. It started about the time that they said the vaccine would become effective. I got what seemed like a bad cold. I was away on holiday for a few days so didn't test for Covid until I returned. That test was negative. I've been feeling unwell since 13 May. Early symptoms included temperature, worsening asthma/breathing difficulties, sleep disturbance, headaches, runny nose, cough, tiredness. Lingering symptoms include daily headaches, though they don't last all day. They start from the morning, some confusion and inability to concentrate, tiredness, cough, stingy nose. This is complicated though because I can't be sure it's not just a cold that's hanging around too long. I'm being treated for cancer also, which has side effects of weakening the immune system and tiredness, but this seems to be on top of that. My cancer treatment is not chemo but hormones so my immune system is mildly weakened but not severely. I had the vaccine on medical advice but I'm minded not to have any more vaccinations in future. It's hard to take a stand against medical advice though. It feels so risky. I questioned the pharmacist who administered the shot, before he gave it as I'd not seen any stats on the prevalence of Covid currently and did not know anyone who'd had it, unlike the first time I'd had a shot. The pharmacist said that not so many people are getting Covid but those who do are getting worse symptoms and ending up in hospital. He later seemed to contradict himself when he said that most people who had had it, that had spoken to him about it, reported mild symptoms. He said the virus people were getting was still Omicron. I had Omicron in Jan 2023 and it was mild for me. Tiredness and headaches for about 10 days. I'd had worse symptoms from a cold/virus just before Xmas 2022. I don't think we are getting enough information.
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OneGxxdSpliff Hf Putin doesn't tolerate any democratic opposition though does he? A list of Putin's opponents who were mysteriously murdered, injured, or imprisoned:
Galina Starovoitova, opposition Duma Deputy killed
Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, shot and killed
Mikhail Trepashkin jailed after a secret trial on espionage charges.
Yuri Shchekochikhin, poisoned, Russian authorities refused to allow an autopsy
Mikhail Trepashkin, a former KGB spy imprisoned
Mikhail Khodorkovsky, sent to Siberia
Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, shot dead in his home
Paul Klebnikov, editor Russian edition Forbes magazine, shot and killed in Moscow
Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.
Andrei Kozlov, shot and killed in Moscow
Anna Politkovskaya,journalist, shot and killed in Moscow.
Paul M. Joyal, shot in street
Stanslav Markelov Russian human rights attorney shot in the back of the head
Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student. Shot in the back of the head. Moscow.
Boris Nemtsov, Russian opposition politician, shot in the streets of Moscow near the Kemlin 2015
Natalia Estemirova leading Russian human rights journalist and activist,shot and killed
Nikolai Glushkov – Russian businessman in the UK who had been given asylum – strangled in England
Sergei Skripal – UK former spy – double agent poisoned with Novichok gas 2018
Yulia Skirpal UK daughter of Sergei Skripal poisoned with Novichok gas 2018
Sergei Magnitsky – Accountant in USSR who was investigating and exposed tax fraud by the Russian state. Imprisoned and died in prison after being beaten up. Prosecuted by the Russian state even after his death.
Maxim Borodin – journalist found dying on the ground outside his 5th floor flat
Mikhail Beketov – journalist left brain damaged and later died
Oleg Kashin journalist left seriously injured after an assault
Tatyana Felgengauer – journalist, stabbed in the neck while at work
Alexander Litvinenko. KGB defector. Poisoned with Polonium in London
Alexander Perepilichnyy
Boris Berezovsky
6 Russian Diplomats who have died since Trump's victory
Alexander Kadakin – Russia's ambassador to India
Andrey Malanan Senior Russian diplomat in Greece
Vitaly Churkin Russian ambassador to the UN
Denis Voronenkon Russian politician who had fled to Ukraine
Migayas Shirinskiy Russia's ambassador to Sudan
Pyotr Verzilov. Pussy Riot Founder. Protested with girlfriend and others at World Cup Final against police persecution while Putin was watching from the stand. Poisoned on 11 Feb 2018 after attending girlfriend's court case. Mother was blocked from seeing him. Doctors refused to explain.
Alexei Navalny – opposition leader to Putin. Poisoned on a flight within Russia 20.08.20
In the Crimea
UN's June 2018 Crimea report accuses the Russian Federation of grave human rights violations in Ukraine. e.g multiple cases of torture e.g.
Ibrahim Mirpochchaev Crimean journalist, abducted with his father and 2 brothers. Beaten for hours, asphyxiated with plastic bags, strangled, repeatedly tasered and violated with a hard probe used to electrocute him internally.
Renat Paralamov, Crimean Tartar similar tale, forced confession.
Server Karametov, 76 year old with Parkinson's disease prosecuted for holding a placard in support of 70 Crimean tartars being tried for multiple simultaneous peaceful lone demonstrations.
Ervin Ibragimov, Tartar leader, dragged off by men in uniform May 2016. Not seen since.
Oleg Sentsov, Crimean film maker, sentenced to 20 years in gaol.
Olexander Kolchenko, his assistant, sentenced to 10 years.
Gennady Afanasayev beaten, suffocated, stripped, threatened with rape and jailed, to force him to testify against Oleg Sentsov. He withdrew his testimony at the trial.
Nariman Memediminov, Tartar activist, forcibly committed to a psychiatric hospital- a measure described by his lawyer as punitive psychiatry.
Nariman Memediminov, Tartar activist, forcibly committed to a psychiatric hospital- a measure described by his lawyer as punitive psychiatry.
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@fatfat1877 Explanation: We'll be down the plughole if we try leaving without a deal just on WTO terms. No country in the world trades just on WTO terms because in trading terms it's the 4th division. They all want deals with a big trading block which is the premier division which is where we are now. It's a bit of a myth that the EU controls us. There are some rules of membership but 99% of what the UK spends is determined by the UK government. So what happens if we go to no deal WTO terms? We have to then set a tariff for trading with the world and under WTO terms it has to be the same tariff for everyone we trade with in the same goods. If we set a tariff that will push prices up for UK consumers and we'll be worse off. If we set a zero tariff (possible under the rules) our farming and manufacturing won't be able to compete with cheap imports from countries where workers have no rights and are paid pennies an hour so our farming and manufacturing industries will be destroyed. Don't just take my word for it. Patrick Minford, an economist who is for a hard Brexit says the same about the future of British farming and manufacturing. It will affect other economic sectors also. Wealthy people like ex stockbroker Farage and Jacob Rees Mogg will be raking it in because WTO rules do not regulate financial systems and they will be even more free to squirrel away their profits to tax havens around the world. Also over 80% of our exports are services and 49% of those are to the EU. The day we hard Brexit, those services with lose their 'passport' rights to European EU countries, which is why businesses are talking about moving their headquarters to the Europe. The very people who want Brexit because they are suffering under the present government's austerity programme, will be stuffed even more under no deal Brexit. None of this was explained before the Referendum by a campaign that wasn't even talking about a no deal Brexit. As for getting trade deals, as a member of the EU, we have over 40 trade deals that will no longer apply the day we go out on no deal and there are only a handful lined up to replace them. Trade deals take years to negotiate because they are complex covering everything traded between countries. Trump is protectionist and the US is a larger economy than ours, and if we want a trade deal with the USA it will be very much on his terms, as he doesn't need to deal. His negotiators have already said they want access to NHS funding for their corporations as part of the deal and for us to take their farming products like chlorine washed chicken and hormone fed beef - practices currently banned by the EU. China and Russia are not our friends and in any case they don't allow countries to export freely to theirs. They are protectionist. Asian countries have each other to trade with nearby. The only thing India wants from us is more visas for people to come here. Other countries won't make up for the loss of the big trading area on our doorstep (the EU). The way out of our problems is to vote for a party that will do something about inequality in the UK and protect jobs and trade, and that's not the Tories or the Brexit party. Farage has stated he is for replacing the NHS with an insurance based market system. He is for taking restrictions off the sale of handguns and he has other right wing policies too. If we set a zero tariff, that would be zero for EU trade also, except as outsiders the EU would be placing a tariff on us (could be 40%). That would make us uncompetitive in trading with the EU. You can't just count the cost of trading with the EU in terms of our subscriptions. You have to count the benefits to the economy too and the health and welfare of people to get the whole picture.
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charlie cheeseface I can't stop you dreaming your dreams but almost the opposite of what you believe is true and if you think manufacturing will do well under a hard (no deal) Brexit, I suggest you listen to the pro Brexit economist, Patrick Minford, that Jacob Rees-Mogg is always quoting in support of Brexit. Minford acknowledges that under a hard Brexit, British manufacturing and farming is likely to suffer badly if not die out, but he doesn't think that matters because we can import everything from countries at cheaper prices, because in those countries, labour is cheaper and has less protection and animal and environmental welfare is not a consideration, but we see already the effects of not having our own manufacturing industry as it's not too healthy at the moment either (Thatcher said we didn't need it, remember?). Recently the NHS had to place a bulk order for Coronavirus masks with a French company but they didn't get them because the French government comandeered the masks for use in France. I'm not going to debate with you any more because it seems you have a lot to learn and you are going to have to learn it the hard way, through future experience, because you don't believe what I am saying even though I've done research on this and you have not. Good luck. P.S My daughter was not 'fully supported ' by me while on her zero hours contract.
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I'm not a Tory supporter, far from it, but I support this policy though it would have been fairer to make it an increase on income tax rather than NI. However I understand that income tax in the UK is not wholly under the control of the Westminster government as it's a devolved matter where Wales, Scotland and NI are concerned, so I understand why they chose NI and most people link the term NI with public service benefits. Social Care is not just for the rich. In fact the rich can afford their own social care without relying on state provision. It's the poor that need it most. This has been a problem growing over the years because of an ageing population and the Tories have actually made cuts to funding for social care since 2010. Social care allows elderly people to be cared for at home as far as practicable rather than going into care homes which are not always nice and which are reducing in number anyway. Care homes also take out a profit element. They are expensive and many people can't afford them and are left at home with inadequate care or end up bed blocking in hospitals because there is no one to care for them at home. Successive government have pledged to do something about funding social care but have baulked at the risk this poses from potential voter backlash (Voters don't generally like tax increases, and governments both Labour and Conservative have therefore kicked the can down the road while the problems in social care provision have got steadily worse). People who pay this extra tax now will know that they can rely on better services when they themselves get old and need them and as I understand it though pensioners don't normally pay NI, the government will be introducing this element for working pensioners. Most people don't object to paying tax for the NHS, why should they object to paying it for social care if they know they will benefit? Boris in doing this has broken a Manifesto pledge but he also pledged to solve the issue of funding social care, so he has broken one pledge to fund another. The public finances are in a bad state from Covid and after Brexit and the money has to come from somewhere. It would have helped though if Boris hadn't spaffed over £50bn of public money on ineffective Covid measures (test and trace being the main one) where contracts went largely to Tory friends and supporters, without competition, and they were never published as required by law. Experts reported that this service didn't make much difference to outcomes. This policy still has to get through Parliament.
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@firsteerr He can't push the government for anything. He's tried but they are not prepared to grant him any concessions that might help him because they don't want the Labour party to make any progress that might benefit them electorily. Chris Grayling openly admitted that he wasn't inclined to put failing London rail systems under TfL, to improve them as Khan suggested because he didn't want to 'hand them to Labour'. The Tories think if they punish Londoners enough for voting Labour, they will switch their vote to Tory. Khan has given extra money to the police budget and is raising the Mayor's 'precept' in the London council rates to give extra money to fund the police budgets so they can tackle crime better but he's limited in the amount he can raise and it pales in comparison with the vast amount the government has cut from police budgets since 2010. Since 2010 20,000 police officers jobs have been cut due to government budget cuts to police funding. Increasing the congestion charge to cut pollution is a good idea. It hadn't been raised for years, and there's enough good public transport in London to avoid driving in many cases. I don't drive and none of my family do. I have contracted adult onset asthma though, living near a busy road in London. There are other actions he is taking to cut pollution and I will watch with interest what the outcome of those will be. He's not a dictator so he can't tell councils what to do but he has consulted on affordable housing (end of 2017), issued supplementary planning guidance to encourage it, and secured funds for spending on it. His plan is a decade long plan and he's doing a number of things towards achieving this which you can google https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/news/london-mayor-raises-grant-rates-for-housing-associations-56827, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44139669. It takes time from planning, design and approval for homes to be built so give it a chance. Again he can't dictate to TfL but though some fares have risen, others have been capped and he has introduced 2 journeys for one price bus fares, that have benefited some of the poorest people in London, especially workers on low wages. This is more than Tory Boris Johnson achieved as Mayor as he did not have even the intention to try and improve things for ordinary Londoners but concentrated on vanity and useless projects like buying old water cannons for crowd control, which could not be used, highly expensive 'Boris buses' whose windows don't open, stifling people in Summer, and the unnecessary 'Garden Bridge' which thankfully Khan dropped before even more public money was wasted..
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@kevinb9830 Large queues at Dover, caused by Brexit, queues for British travellers, caused by Brexit, political problems in Northern Ireland, Brexit complicated that. Potential break up of the UK, exacerbated by Brexit, unfavourable economic growth and trade projections in comparison to Europe and the rest of the world - the only difference in the UK is Brexit. The intended dismantling of worker protections, facilitated by Brexit, financial corruption, facilitated by Brexit and this is just the beginning, judging by government intentions for the future.
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@GravityBoy72 They are doing a good job of making Putin look bad. Lol. Galina Starovoitova, opposition Duma Deputy killed
Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, shot and killed
Mikhail Trepashkin jailed after a secret trial on espionage charges.
Yuri Shchekochikhin, poisoned, Russian authorities refused to allow an autopsy
Mikhail Trepashkin, a former KGB spy imprisoned
Mikhail Khodorkovsky, sent to Siberia
Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, shot dead in his home
Paul Klebnikov, editor Russian edition Forbes magazine, shot and killed in Moscow
Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.
Andrei Kozlov, shot and killed in Moscow
Anna Politkovskaya,journalist, shot and killed in Moscow.
Paul M. Joyal, shot in street
Stanslav Markelov Russian human rights attorney shot in the back of the head
Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student. Shot in the back of the head. Moscow.
Boris Nemtsov, Russian opposition politician, shot in the streets of Moscow near the Kemlin 2015
Natalia Estemirova leading Russian human rights journalist and activist,shot and killed
Nikolai Glushkov – Russian businessman in the UK who had been given asylum – strangled in England
Sergei Skripal – UK former spy – double agent poisoned with Novichok gas 2018
Yulia Skirpal UK daughter of Sergei Skripal poisoned with Novichok gas 2018
Sergei Magnitsky – Accountant in USSR who was investigating and exposed tax fraud by the Russian state. Imprisoned and died in prison after being beaten up. Prosecuted by the Russian state even after his death.
Maxim Borodin – journalist found dying on the ground outside his 5th floor flat
Mikhail Beketov – journalist left brain damaged and later died
Oleg Kashin journalist left seriously injured after an assault
Tatyana Felgengauer – journalist, stabbed in the neck while at work
Alexander Litvinenko. KGB defector. Poisoned with Polonium in London
Alexander Perepilichnyy
Boris Berezovsky
6 Russian Diplomats who have died since Trump's victory
Alexander Kadakin – Russia's ambassador to India
Andrey Malanan Senior Russian diplomat in Greece
Vitaly Churkin Russian ambassador to the UN
Denis Voronenkon Russian politician who had fled to Ukraine
Migayas Shirinskiy Russia's ambassador to Sudan
Pyotr Verzilov. Pussy Riot Founder. Protested with girlfriend and others at World Cup Final against police persecution while Putin was watching from the stand. Poisoned on 11 Feb 2018 after attending girlfriend's court case. Mother was blocked from seeing him. Doctors refused to explain.
Alexei Navalny – opposition leader to Putin. Poisoned on a flight within Russia 20.08.20
In the Crimea
UN's June 2018 Crimea report accuses the Russian Federation of grave human rights violations in Ukraine. e.g multiple cases of torture e.g.
Ibrahim Mirpochchaev Crimean journalist, abducted with his father and 2 brothers. Beaten for hours, asphyxiated with plastic bags, strangled, repeatedly tasered and violated with a hard probe used to electrocute him internally.
Renat Paralamov, Crimean Tartar similar tale, forced confession.
Server Karametov, 76 year old with Parkinson's disease prosecuted for holding a placard in support of 70 Crimean tartars being tried for multiple simultaneous peaceful lone demonstrations.
Ervin Ibragimov, Tartar leader, dragged off by men in uniform May 2016. Not seen since.
Oleg Sentsov, Crimean film maker, sentenced to 20 years in gaol.
Olexander Kolchenko, his assistant, sentenced to 10 years.
Gennady Afanasayev beaten, suffocated, stripped, threatened with rape and jailed, to force him to testify against Oleg Sentsov. He withdrew his testimony at the trial.
Nariman Memediminov, Tartar activist, forcibly committed to a psychiatric hospital- a measure described by his lawyer as punitive psychiatry.
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@christopherburns3528 The sad thing is that today, Mark Rutte, the Prime Minister of the Netherlands has confirmed that a no deal Brexit will sorely hurt the UK, and he said that the things Cameron wanted, have happened. Cameron objected to the United Europe and Superstate ideas, but those are all gone now. He said that no leaders in Europe are promoting those ideas anymore. So our reasons for leaving are less and less now, and the disadvantages of leaving will greatly outweigh those of staying. Personally I think when the final situation has been reached, the public should be asked, given what we know now, whether we still want to go ahead with any Brexit deal or hard Brexit or whether we now want to remain. I am concerned that a lot of people aren't thinking very deeply about this, but they have made their minds up based on some feeling, and then closed them to any further arguments
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@barnabylowe1239 Well Spanish flu was very infectious, just like Covid 19 and was spread quickly by people movements, along railway stops, on troop trains and ships and by a big public rally in Philadelphia for instance so it shows what would happen with Covid, if there was no lockdown. The only US city to avoid Spanish flu was the one that locked down earliest, San Francisco, though they caught another wave after they were clear of the first because they thought it was over. There were about 3 waves of the Spanish Flu virus, which mutated, and it did not originate in Spain but Spain was open about reporting it because, unlike many other countries they were not at war at the time and not censoring bad news. It killed 8 million people in Spain. The main difference between Spanish flu and Covid is that Spanish flu was even more severe and often killed within 12-24 hours. Blood also issued from people's eyes, noses and mouths.
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@TheListOf I'm not bashing Russia, only Putin and his cronies. The real circumstances are these. (A list of Putin's opponents who were mysteriously murdered, injured, or imprisoned:
Galina Starovoitova, opposition Duma Deputy killed
Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, shot and killed
Mikhail Trepashkin jailed after a secret trial on espionage charges.
Yuri Shchekochikhin, poisoned, Russian authorities refused to allow an autopsy
Mikhail Trepashkin, a former KGB spy imprisoned
Mikhail Khodorkovsky, sent to Siberia
Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, shot dead in his home
Paul Klebnikov, editor Russian edition Forbes magazine, shot and killed in Moscow
Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.
Andrei Kozlov, shot and killed in Moscow
Anna Politkovskaya,journalist, shot and killed in Moscow.
Paul M. Joyal, shot in street
Stanslav Markelov Russian human rights attorney shot in the back of the head
Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student. Shot in the back of the head. Moscow.
Boris Nemtsov, Russian opposition politician, shot in the streets of Moscow near the Kemlin 2015
Natalia Estemirova leading Russian human rights journalist and activist,shot and killed
Nikolai Glushkov – Russian businessman in the UK who had been given asylum – strangled in England
Sergei Skripal – UK former spy – double agent poisoned with Novichok 2018
Yulia Skirpal UK daughter of Sergei Skripal poisoned with Novichok 2018
Sergei Magnitsky – Accountant in USSR who was investigating and exposed tax fraud by the Russian state. Imprisoned and died in prison after being beaten up. Prosecuted by the Russian state even after his death.
Maxim Borodin – journalist found dying on the ground outside his 5th floor flat
Mikhail Beketov – journalist left brain damaged and later died
Oleg Kashin journalist left seriously injured after an assault
Tatyana Felgengauer – journalist, stabbed in the neck while at work
Alexander Litvinenko. KGB defector. Poisoned with Polonium in London
Alexander Perepilichnyy
Boris Berezovsky
6 Russian Diplomats who have died since Trump's victory
Alexander Kadakin – Russia's ambassador to India
Andrey Malanan Senior Russian diplomat in Greece
Vitaly Churkin Russian ambassador to the UN
Denis Voronenkon Russian politician who had fled to Ukraine
Migayas Shirinskiy Russia's ambassador to Sudan
Pyotr Verzilov. Pussy Riot Founder. Protested with girlfriend and others at World Cup Final against police persecution while Putin was watching from the stand. Poisoned on 11 Feb 2018 after attending girlfriend's court case. Mother was blocked from seeing him. Doctors refused to explain.
Alexei Navalny – opposition leader to Putin. Poisoned on a flight within Russia 20.08.20
In the Crimea
UN's June 2018 Crimea report accuses the Russian Federation of grave human rights violations in Ukraine. e.g multiple cases of torture e.g.
Ibrahim Mirpochchaev Crimean journalist, abducted with his father and 2 brothers. Beaten for hours, asphyxiated with plastic bags, strangled, repeatedly tasered and violated with a hard probe used to electrocute him internally.
Renat Paralamov, Crimean Tartar similar tale, forced confession.
Server Karametov, 76 year old with Parkinson's disease prosecuted for holding a placard in support of 70 Crimean tartars being tried for multiple simultaneous peaceful lone demonstrations.
Ervin Ibragimov, Tartar leader, dragged off by men in uniform May 2016. Not seen since.
Oleg Sentsov, Crimean film maker, sentenced to 20 years in gaol.
Olexander Kolchenko, his assistant, sentenced to 10 years.
Gennady Afanasayev beaten, suffocated, stripped, threatened with rape and jailed, to force him to testify against Oleg Sentsov. He withdrew his testimony at the trial.
Nariman Memediminov, Tartar activist, forcibly committed to a psychiatric hospital- a measure described by his lawyer as punitive psychiatry.
Vladimir Kara-Murza, journalist and opposition activist alleged he was poisoned twice by Russian security services. He nearly died after suffering kidney failure in 2015 and two years later went into a coma for a week.
Pyotr Verzilov, another Kremlin critic, accused Russia's intelligence services of poisoning him in 2018, when he fell ill after a court hearing, losing his sight and ability to speak. He too was treated by Berlin's Charité hospital, and asked the Berlin-based Cinema for Peace Foundation to arrange Mr Navalny's airlift there.)
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The BBC licence fee, in monthly terms is cheaper than a monthly subscription to TV from Sky or Virgin. If you make the BBC a subscription only service, people overseas who can't access it now would be able to, and the dead hand of government would be off it, though it would probably then cease to be a British institution and become more internationally focused. One more internationally influential British institution, and icon, that's no longer British, along with British chocolate and sweet firms, British Rail, and other companies that used to keep skills in Britain. We are going to need our creative institutions after Brexit to help earn our living in the wider world. Creative industries are something we are good at, though they are not valued and this is not recognised by our philistine government. I suspect its competitors (like Rupert Murdoch) might try to take it over if it was in direct competition, to eliminate a competitor and dumb down the news.
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@ruedigerpreiss9307 From The New Yorker' But one irony is easy to discern: Assange clearly believed that a Donald J. Trump Presidency would benefit him, and yet it was the Trump Administration that sought to redefine WikiLeaks as a “non-state hostile intelligence service”—an organization that did not belong within the ambit of journalism. Assange, a devoted opponent of what he describes as American imperial power, has welcomed Trump’s degradation of U.S. norms and institutions.'
From The Guardian.
'Trump celebrated WikiLeaks on the election trail, giving them shout-outs 164 times in the last month of the campaign alone. “WikiLeaks – I love WikiLeaks,” he told one rally. He told another “This WikiLeaks is like a treasure trove.”
After the election, Trump continued to cite Assange approvingly.
“The dishonest media likes saying that I am in agreement with Julian Assange – wrong,” he tweeted during the presidential transition in January 2017. “I simply state what he states, it is for the people ... to make up their own minds as to the truth.”
From Salon.com n a twist worthy of an O. Henry story — or possibly a classic Greek tragedy — WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's own hubris is what led ultimately to his arrest. For, without Assange, we would likely not have a President Donald Trump, and without a President Trump, Assange would likely not have been hauled out of the Ecuadorian embassy on Thursday, under arrest by British authorities responding to an extradition request from the Trump administration that Assange himself worked so tirelessly to elect.
Etc etc. There are lots of similar articles.
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@VladimirOnOccasion That's from someone who doesn't understand the significance of the information they have. Here is the answer to that putting it in context:.'There has been a lot of talk on social media about "false positive" test results after several commentators suggested they might be seriously skewing the coronavirus figures - but that is based on a misunderstanding of the impact of false positives.
Talk Radio host Julia Hartley-Brewer has claimed that "nine out of 10 of the positive cases of Covid we are finding in the community when we do random testing, when anyone just puts themselves forward, will be wrong. They will not be people who have got coronavirus."
Could it be true that 90% of positive results from tests in the community - that means tests not carried out in hospitals - are false? The answer is "no" - there is no way that so-called false positives have had such an impact on the figures.
Hartley-Brewer referred to both "random testing" and "anyone [who] just puts themselves forward", which are different things, and the difference between them is important.
Also, there are many other signs that the rising number of positive tests is truly reflecting the virus spreading, for example a subsequent rise in Covid hospitalisations.
What is a false positive?
A false positive is when someone who does not have coronavirus, tests positive for it.
No test is 100% accurate - there will always be some people who test positive when they do not have the disease, or test negative when they do have it.
False positives in any testing programme are important - especially when there is low prevalence of a disease - because they could potentially make us think there are significantly more cases of something than there really are.
The false positive rate usually refers to the number of people who are not infected but get positive results, as a proportion of all the people tested who really don't have the virus. We do not know what the precise rate is though.
Dr Paul Birrell, a statistician at the Medical Research Council's Biostatistics Unit at the University of Cambridge, says: "The false positive rate is not well understood and could potentially vary according to where and why the test is being taken. A figure of 0.5% for the false positive rate is often assumed."
Randomness is the key
The most important thing to know about the impact of false positives is that it varies hugely depending on who is being tested.
What Hartley-Brewer said confused the idea of random testing with community testing for Covid. Those are two different situations, and false positives have a very different impact in each case.
If you tested 1,000 people at random for Covid-19 in early September, for example, data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) infection study suggests you should have expected one of them to actually have the virus.
With a false positive rate of 0.8% - a figure used by Ms Hartley-Brewer and within the broad range of what we think might be the actual rate for community testing - you would get eight false positives. So in that context, it's true that roughly 90% of positives would be false.
But - crucially - the people going for community testing for Covid-19 (at places such as drive-through centres) are not a random sample of the public. They are people who have symptoms, are in care homes or are in hot-spot areas.
PA MEDIA
Figures for late September from Public Health England show that 7% of community tests were positive. That means if 1,000 people were tested with a false positive rate of 0.8%, eight would be false positives, but 70 would be true positives - the vast majority.
So the daily case count is not being skewed significantly by false positives. There will also be some false negatives, meaning that some people who actually have Covid are not being counted.
When we put it to Hartley-Brewer that she had misinterpreted explanations of the impact of false positives, she pointed us to other articles that also discussed the impact on random samples of the population, rather than on people who are much more likely to have the virus.
There are other signs of real positive results
People do not get admitted to hospital by false positives, so if more people are in hospital with Covid, then you can be pretty sure that is due to genuine cases. The same is true of the number of deaths.
Dr Birrell says that to be certain cases really are increasing, the daily case count "should always be considered alongside other information sources, such as the hospitalisations or deaths, or the community surveys run by the ONS or REACT".
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This is one reason for problems
In early 2021, Operose Health, a UK subsidiary of Centene (a US company), took over a group of London practices, AT Medics. They run 32 practices in London and 70 nationwide. Panorama analysed NHS data for 6,500 practices across England. It found:
For every 2,000 registered patients, there are on average the equivalent of 1.2 full-time GPs
But at Operose practices the average is half that, at a little over 0.6 full time equivalent GPs
Operose employs six times as many physician associates as the NHS average, according to NHS data
While undercover, Panorama was also told about a backlog of important patient referral documents, often unread by doctors or pharmacists for months.
Here's more' A BMA survey has revealed that four out of five locum GPs in England (84%) cannot find work, despite patients waiting weeks for appointments. An overwhelming number of those who responded to the survey said they could not find suitable positions and because of that, more than 50% are expecting to make changes to their work or career plans in the next year.
More worryingly, many (33%) have already made definite plans to change work or career paths, and the BMA fears patient access will worsen in England as one-third of respondents (31%) who are planning for change say the lack of suitable shifts is forcing them to leave the NHS entirely.
Last year, BMA warned the government that the current ARRS model, which only funds non-GP roles, would exacerbate the GP employment crisis. 71% of respondents blame the ARRS for GP unemployment.'
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The mayor has put more money into policing but can't make up for massive cuts to police funds from central (Tory) government. He has prompted the police to do more stop and search but the police are under great pressure since the Tory budget cuts mean the loss of 20,000 police officers and knife crime, and the causes of it go further back than Khan's time, to Tory austerity cuts in youth services. Knife crime was building up under Boris Johnson. Also the Tories have done very little about gang crime since it first started years ago, probably on the basis that it wasn't affecting Tory voters and was mainly black on black crime. I'm surprised at George Galloway spouting Tory views but Galloway's a bit of a tart. He's never criticised Russia's criminal regime and the number of political opponents the Russian regime has eliminated. He wouldn't be able to speak against the government in Russia as he does here but he's paid to appear on Russia Today TV station, so I don't suppose he wants to bite the hand that feeds him. Boris Johnson wasn't a better mayor. He did nothing worthwhile - just a few useless vanity projects which cost and lost millions. Galloway claims he's not being racist so why does he use the term 'failed experiment'. In what sense is this an experiment? Having a muslim as mayor? If he means that, it sounds racist. For mayor, you have to choose someone who can win as well as someone who is capable. Khan won in the teeth of his opponent, rich man Goldsmith's racist campaign. It's hard to get affordable houses in a year as Galloway well knows because you have to go through procedures and get developers to co-operate. The picture is not as bad as Galloway maintains: https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/news/sadiq-khan-falling-short-on-affordable-housing-promises-says-scathing-report-59285. He is at least doing more than previous Mayors including Boris Johnson. What does George Galloway do other than spout his mouth off in the media? He's a failed MP. The British government refused a visa to the Russian cousin of the Skripals because it was feared that the Russian government would try to get to them through her. The cousin was starting to talk as if on behalf of the Skripals, and they said only they could speak for themselves, and they did not want to see their cousin. What nonsense Galloway talks when he's in attack mode. He's an apologist for Putin. The Skripals did not go back to Russia and did not want to go back to Russia. The Skripals did not want the cousin giving away their whereabouts in case a further assassination attempt was tried.
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@kylemc0254 I believe they should teach more finance, economics and politics (in terms of how the British political system works). However you can do those subjects if you get on to higher education. You have to do the basics before moving on. All you need to know about the stock market is that it's a form of gambling, but bigger players' investments are automatically played and switched according to an algorithm, which means that smaller individual investors are always at a disadvantage. I'd stay away from it, as far as personal income is concerned, for that reason. Science can help people in all sorts of job areas that are in demand from medicine, to engineering, to technology and just being able to follow information available on Covid for instance or make personal decisions about lifestyle and medical care. We'll all need to be more savvy on science in the future. Poetry is like teaching the mind to dream, express itself in unique ways, be free and enjoy the more pleasant things in life. I think it was Oscar Wilde who said, while in prison, that they could not imprison his mind. Education's about personal fulfillment as well as life skills. Creativity and the field of the arts is good for mental health.
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@DavidSmith-vx1hj Just because a woman happens to be in power does not mean her gender was the thing that governed her polices. I could say Hitler was a man and so was Genghis Khan, Attila and Napoleon, Ropespierre, Stalin and Vlad the Impaler but it would be crass to say there should be no men in politics because of them. Theresa May didn't take 'no deal' off the table as far as I'm aware. She was certainly against doing that whenever she responded to that request in Parliament. I'm not a supporter of May but let's get the facts right. I can't go through economic factors one by one but for example, take farming and manufacturing. Under WTO terms we have to set tariffs for nations we trade with and they have to be the same for all countries we trade with. Currently within the EU we trade tariff free. If we set a tariff on imported goods that means prices will go up for UK consumers, so everything will cost us more but it will protect British farming and industry from unfair competition from countries running sweatshops with no protections for workers, paying them 2p an hour, say. Our industries can't compete with that unless they treat British workers the same way. If we set zero tariffs, which we could do, that would protect British consumers from price rises, as a result of hard Brexit, but it would offer no protection to British industry and farming from the unfair competition. Some people would still buy British as a matter of principle but most consumers will buy on price alone and go for the cheapest goods. That will wipe out British farming and manufacturing. In WTO British exporters will have to pay tariffs too, and they are likely to be set by other countries at a level to protect their own industries.
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@DavidSmith-vx1hj Well, I can't spend my life solving the world's problems. wish I could but I don't have the time or the power. Knife crime has been on the rise for a while. I remember seeing this trend coming across with gang culture from America years ago and being very frustrated that the governments of the time were not giving priority to tackling it in the early stages. You could see that it would grow if not tackled. It has more recently been fuelled by factors such as austerity, large expulsions from schools leading to lack of skills and opportunity, lack of social mobility, a growing gap between rich and poor, pressures on the poor, breakdown of families under pressure, closures of leisure activities for youths such as leisure centres and youth clubs and youthworker projects massive cuts by this government to police budgets which has resulted in a loss of over 20,000 police officers at a time when other pressures on the police are growing, such as from cybercrime, terrorism, modern slavery and paedophile activities and domestic violence on top of the usual crimes. What I would do is restore the funding to the police and to those projects and youth facilities it was taken from and actually increase the funding to police and youth projects. I would hope that it's not too late to reverse this trend after years of neglect. I've just been reading an article about military drones and how the services have crashed and wrecked quite a few of them at a cost of £15 million a piece because of a lack of training an inability to understand what error messages mean. We have our priorities wrong and short terms cuts (to training) can have costly consequences in the longer term. This government prides itself on 'cutting waste' but it cuts money to public services while wasting it in quite a number of other areas. By what I've said above, I don't mean to exonerate individuals from blame for their crimes. Not everyone who is poor or under pressure commits crimes. Some will and some won't but alleviating some of those pressures and putting more resources into young people worked in the past and are a worthwhile investment to help turn things around.
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@giddy What country are you talking about? You can't call the Tories left wing.That's so ignorant. All modern countries tax and regulate. You're not living in Victorian times. Tory governments deregulated the financial system in Thatcher's time, leading to globalisation of capitalism that can move money and jobs to the countries with the cheapest most exploited labour. It allows rich people to keep their profits in offshore tax havens, it privatised the railways, water, gas and electricity and the forensic service, Treasury buildings, and army recruitment. It allows foreign corporations and foreign criminals laundering money to buy British property. It semi privatised the post office, education, prisons , court services and the probation service. It required the NHS to put its services out to tender with private companies. There are a lot more public services that have been outsourced or privatised - too many to mention. They hate Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour party who are socialists. Socialists would not do any of the above. It's true that hate speech is banned. The government doesn't want civil disturbances. Your comment about being told what colour underwear to wear shows just how childish, ignorant and self pitying your thought process and your level of understanding is.
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So he doesn't disagree with Liz Truss's direction. He just thinks she went too hard and fast so we're in for a slower car crash rather than a fast one. Time for a General Election. Based on his track record, this man's judgement about economic policies is not the best and I'd doubt his political judgement too. He says the only successful policy that can be carried forward on NI 'is the one that we have' (which should be adhering to the signed agreement, the protocol, not reneging on it). Giving into DUP blackmail is atrocious but not surprising. Throughout history, British governments have given in to unionist blackmail, but the DUP's position on Brexit (pro Brexit) is different from the way NI as a whole voted (which was to remain in the EU), the DUP never agreed to the GFI and is now the minority party in NI and is losing votes, but thanks to this Tory government their chaotic policy on NI will continue. Supporting the prejudiced agenda and nonsensical position of the DUP, as time goes on, will find the Tory government on the wrong side of history with NI. 'The jurisdiction of EU law in NI' as he terms it, allows NI the privileged position of free trade in goods with the EU as well as with mainland Britain and it's only some trade rules. It's a privileged position which is allowing the NI economy to thrive. The Tories don't like it for ideological reasons and because it shows up the difference in performance between a part of the UK with access to the EU and the rest of the UK which has bureaucratic trade barriers as a result of leaving the EU.
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@matthewwalker5317 What you are not taking into account is the longer term or permanent effects on some survivors, even those who are young or who didn't have a severe experience of the virus. There is plenty of information on that if you look. I'll give you one example. In Germany they MRI screened 100 patients who had survived the virus and discovered that the hearts of 78 of them had been affected. Many had infllamation of the heart, but Covid can affect other organs too. e.g. lungs, liver, kidneys. It can cause blood clotting that leads to strokes. That's not to mention long term fatigue afterwards or loss of muscle tone while on ventilators, leading to people needing physiotherapy in order to walk again. It's a nasty disease and one best avoided. Of course there will be people it doesn't affect much who won't be aware they have it, but it's not entirely predictable. Even Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, who dismissed the disease, said he was fit and it would not affect him much if he caught it, took no precautions and caught it, now says he's been left with 'mouldy lungs' afterwards.
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Because they all know that no deal would be disastrous for the UK economy. No one is discussing what will happen in a no deal scenario. In the run up to the Referendum, the leave campaign was to leave with a deal, the implications of leaving without a deal were never explored. It will deliver a powerful shock to the UK economy, if we try leaving without a deal just on WTO terms. No country in the world trades just on WTO terms because in trading terms it's the 4th division. They all want deals with a big trading block which is the premier division which is where we are now. It's a bit of a myth that the EU controls us. There are some rules of membership but 99% of what the UK spends is determined by the UK government not the EU. So what happens if we go to no deal WTO terms? We have to then set a tariff for trading with the world and under WTO terms it has to be the same tariff for everyone we trade with. If we set a tariff that will push prices up for UK consumers and we'll be worse off. If we set a zero tariff (possible under the rules) our farming and manufacturing won't be able to compete with cheap imports from countries where workers have no rights and are paid pennies an hour so our farming and manufacturing industries will be destroyed. Patrick Minford, an economist who is in favour of a hard Brexit (a brexit without a deal) says the same about the future of British farming and manufacturing. It will affect other economic sectors also. a hard Brexit means dropping off the cliff from day one. There will be no transition period without a deal. Wealthy people like ex stockbroker Farage and Jacob Rees Mogg will profit from a hard Brexit because WTO rules do not regulate financial systems and they will be even more free to transfer their profits to tax havens around the world. The very people who want Brexit because they are suffering under the present government's austerity programme, will suffer even more under no deal Brexit. None of this was explained before the Referendum by a campaign that wasn't even talking about a no deal Brexit. As for getting trade deals, as a member of the EU, we have over 4000 trade deals that will no longer apply the day we go out on no deal and Liam Fox only has a handful lined up to replace them. Trade deals take years to negotiate because they are complex covering everything traded between countries. Trump is protectionist and the US is a larger economy than ours, and if we want a trade deal with the USA it will be very much on his terms, as he doesn't need to deal. His negotiators have already said they want access to NHS funding for their corporations as part of the deal and for us to take their farming products like chlorine washed chicken and hormone fed beef - practices currently banned by the EU. China and Russia are not our friends and in any case they don't allow countries to export freely to theirs. They are also protectionist. Asian countries have each other to trade with nearby. The only thing India wants from us is more visas for people to come here. Other countries won't make up for the loss of the big trading area on our doorstep (the EU). The way out of our problems is to vote for a party that will do something about inequality in the UK and protect jobs and trade, and that's not the Tories or the Brexit party. Farage has stated he is for replacing the NHS with an insurance based market system. He is for taking restrictions off the sale of handguns and he has other right wing policies too. If we set a zero tariff, that would be zero for EU trade also, except as outsiders the EU would be placing a tariff on us (could be 40%). That would make us uncompetitive in trading with the EU. You can't just count the cost of trading with the EU in terms of our subscriptions. You have to count the benefits to the economy too and the health and welfare of people to get the whole picture.
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I dunno. It's the want want want, me, me, me society now. So you want to risk the sink in quality of TV? Well some things are for the good of society as a whole. TV needs to cater to the intellectual and educational, and high quality reliable news needs of society was well as entertainment, but as some of those things have smaller audiences, than say, the porn channels, you won't find private sector companies providing those services, and if it's only to be paid for by a smaller pool of people, the poorer in society won't be able to afford it. At least this way the costs are shared out.
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@JK-ux9du Ha Ha. What EXACTLY do you expect to gain? Don't talk in abstract terms about sovereignty etc. What in concrete terms do you expect to gain? Even the hard pro Brexit economist, Patrick Minford, who wants zero tariffs under a hard Brexit admits that will kill British manufacturing and British agriculture and don't forget that would mean we weren't placing tariffs on the EU either (under WTO rules you can't pick and choose different tariffs for different customers for the same goods) but the EU will be placing tariffs on us -over 40% on British lamb and beef. Apart from imposing zero tariffs, the only way to avoid tariffs is to have deals with trading blocks, but those typically take years to negotiate and because other countries have trade deals and we don't, we'll be at a massive disadvantage both in trading and in negotiating trade deals, and we'll immediately lose the 40 or so trade deals we are already in as part of the EU, the second we hard Brexit. We also export a lot in services - over 80% of our exports and about 49% of those go to the EU but these services will lose their 'passport' to the EU the second we hard Brexit. So I hope you've done your homework and are clear where in all this, the average person stands to gain anything. Farage is all sloganising, but fine words butter no parsnips. I forgot to say that Britain has no experienced trade negotiators because all that was done by the EU. They have all the experienced trade negotiators as do other countries with deals and trade deals are very complex things to negotiate because of their comprehensive nature, and we'll be outdone on any negotiations after a hard Brexit by those experienced and skilled trade negotiatiors. If we do decide to put tariffs on our trade with other countries, that will put the prices up for consumers in the UK.
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@irishandscottish1829 No I don't believe everything I read. I look carefully into the facts. I have done plenty of research. I can tell you're not much of a reader or fact checker from your inability to spell naively. Here is a list of Putin's political opponents or just those investigating corruption who were mysteriously murdered, injured, or imprisoned:
Galina Starovoitova, opposition Duma Deputy killed
Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, shot and killed
Mikhail Trepashkin jailed after a secret trial on espionage charges.
Yuri Shchekochikhin, poisoned, Russian authorities refused to allow an autopsy
Mikhail Trepashkin, a former KGB spy imprisoned
Mikhail Khodorkovsky, sent to Siberia
Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, shot dead in his home
Paul Klebnikov, editor Russian edition Forbes magazine, shot and killed in Moscow
Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.
Andrei Kozlov, shot and killed in Moscow
Anna Politkovskaya,journalist, shot and killed in Moscow.
Paul M. Joyal, shot in street
Stanslav Markelov Russian human rights attorney shot in the back of the head
Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student. Shot in the back of the head. Moscow.
Boris Nemtsov, Russian opposition politician, shot in the streets of Moscow near the Kemlin 2015
Natalia Estemirova leading Russian human rights journalist and activist,shot and killed
Nikolai Glushkov – Russian businessman in the UK who had been given asylum – strangled in England
Sergei Skripal – UK former spy – double agent poisoned with Novichok 2018
Yulia Skirpal UK daughter of Sergei Skripal poisoned with Novichok 2018
Sergei Magnitsky – Accountant in USSR who was investigating and exposed tax fraud by the Russian state. Imprisoned and died in prison after being beaten up. Prosecuted by the Russian state even after his death.
Maxim Borodin – journalist found dying on the ground outside his 5th floor flat
Mikhail Beketov – journalist left brain damaged and later died
Oleg Kashin journalist left seriously injured after an assault
Tatyana Felgengauer – journalist, stabbed in the neck while at work
Alexander Litvinenko. KGB defector. Poisoned with Polonium in London
Alexander Perepilichnyy
Boris Berezovsky
6 Russian Diplomats who have died since Trump's victory
Alexander Kadakin – Russia's ambassador to India
Andrey Malanan Senior Russian diplomat in Greece
Vitaly Churkin Russian ambassador to the UN
Denis Voronenkon Russian politician who had fled to Ukraine
Migayas Shirinskiy Russia's ambassador to Sudan
Pyotr Verzilov. Pussy Riot Founder. Protested with girlfriend and others at World Cup Final against police persecution while Putin was watching from the stand. Poisoned on 11 Feb 2018 after attending girlfriend's court case. Mother was blocked from seeing him. Doctors refused to explain.
Alexei Navalny – opposition leader to Putin. Poisoned on a flight within Russia 20.08.20
In the Crimea
UN's June 2018 Crimea report accuses the Russian Federation of grave human rights violations in Ukraine. e.g multiple cases of torture e.g.
Ibrahim Mirpochchaev Crimean journalist, abducted with his father and 2 brothers. Beaten for hours, asphyxiated with plastic bags, strangled, repeatedly tasered and violated with a hard probe used to electrocute him internally.
Renat Paralamov, Crimean Tartar similar tale, forced confession.
Server Karametov, 76 year old with Parkinson's disease prosecuted for holding a placard in support of 70 Crimean tartars being tried for multiple simultaneous peaceful lone demonstrations.
Ervin Ibragimov, Tartar leader, dragged off by men in uniform May 2016. Not seen since.
Oleg Sentsov, Crimean film maker, sentenced to 20 years in gaol.
Olexander Kolchenko, his assistant, sentenced to 10 years.
Gennady Afanasayev beaten, suffocated, stripped, threatened with rape and jailed, to force him to testify against Oleg Sentsov. He withdrew his testimony at the trial.
Nariman Memediminov, Tartar activist, forcibly committed to a psychiatric hospital- a measure described by his lawyer as punitive psychiatry.
Vladimir Kara-Murza, journalist and opposition activist alleged he was poisoned twice by Russian security services. He nearly died after suffering kidney failure in 2015 and two years later went into a coma for a week.
Pyotr Verzilov, another Kremlin critic, accused Russia's intelligence services of poisoning him in 2018, when he fell ill after a court hearing, losing his sight and ability to speak. He too was treated by Berlin's Charité hospital, and asked the Berlin-based Cinema for Peace Foundation to arrange Mr Navalny's airlift there.
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@erdevon3257 I was interpreting you literally. Of course the island is not getting smaller. I won't be drawn into your argument. The island has diverse roots, celts/Britons, Scots, Picts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Jutes, Vikings, Norman French, Huguenots, Flemish, Jews from Europe, Irish, Polish, Gypsies and many more.
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Some people have been killed by Novichok and some have survived it (.e.g the Skripals). Russia does have a bad track record when it comes to dealing with any opposition. Galina Starovoitova, opposition Duma Deputy killed
Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, shot and killed
Mikhail Trepashkin jailed after a secret trial on espionage charges.
Yuri Shchekochikhin, poisoned, Russian authorities refused to allow an autopsy
Mikhail Trepashkin, a former KGB spy imprisoned
Mikhail Khodorkovsky, sent to Siberia
Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, shot dead in his home
Paul Klebnikov, editor Russian edition Forbes magazine, shot and killed in Moscow
Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.
Andrei Kozlov, shot and killed in Moscow
Anna Politkovskaya,journalist, shot and killed in Moscow.
Paul M. Joyal, shot in street
Stanslav Markelov Russian human rights attorney shot in the back of the head
Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student. Shot in the back of the head. Moscow.
Boris Nemtsov, Russian opposition politician, shot in the streets of Moscow near the Kemlin 2015
Natalia Estemirova leading Russian human rights journalist and activist,shot and killed
Nikolai Glushkov – Russian businessman in the UK who had been given asylum – strangled in England
Sergei Skripal – UK former spy – double agent poisoned with Novichok gas 2018
Yulia Skirpal UK daughter of Sergei Skripal poisoned with Novichok gas 2018
Sergei Magnitsky – Accountant in USSR who was investigating and exposed tax fraud by the Russian state. Imprisoned and died in prison after being beaten up. Prosecuted by the Russian state even after his death.
Maxim Borodin – journalist found dying on the ground outside his 5th floor flat
Mikhail Beketov – journalist left brain damaged and later died
Oleg Kashin journalist left seriously injured after an assault
Tatyana Felgengauer – journalist, stabbed in the neck while at work
Alexander Litvinenko. KGB defector. Poisoned with Polonium in London
Alexander Perepilichnyy
Boris Berezovsky
6 Russian Diplomats who have died since Trump's victory
Alexander Kadakin – Russia's ambassador to India
Andrey Malanan Senior Russian diplomat in Greece
Vitaly Churkin Russian ambassador to the UN
Denis Voronenkon Russian politician who had fled to Ukraine
Migayas Shirinskiy Russia's ambassador to Sudan
Pyotr Verzilov. Pussy Riot Founder. Protested with girlfriend and others at World Cup Final against police persecution while Putin was watching from the stand. Poisoned on 11 Feb 2018 after attending girlfriend's court case. Mother was blocked from seeing him. Doctors refused to explain.
Alexei Navalny – opposition leader to Putin. Poisoned on a flight within Russia 20.08.20
In the Crimea
UN's June 2018 Crimea report accuses the Russian Federation of grave human rights violations in Ukraine. e.g multiple cases of torture e.g.
Ibrahim Mirpochchaev Crimean journalist, abducted with his father and 2 brothers. Beaten for hours, asphyxiated with plastic bags, strangled, repeatedly tasered and violated with a hard probe used to electrocute him internally.
Renat Paralamov, Crimean Tartar similar tale, forced confession.
Server Karametov, 76 year old with Parkinson's disease prosecuted for holding a placard in support of 70 Crimean tartars being tried for multiple simultaneous peaceful lone demonstrations.
Ervin Ibragimov, Tartar leader, dragged off by men in uniform May 2016. Not seen since.
Oleg Sentsov, Crimean film maker, sentenced to 20 years in gaol.
Olexander Kolchenko, his assistant, sentenced to 10 years.
Gennady Afanasayev beaten, suffocated, stripped, threatened with rape and jailed, to force him to testify against Oleg Sentsov. He withdrew his testimony at the trial.
Nariman Memediminov, Tartar activist, forcibly committed to a psychiatric hospital- a measure described by his lawyer as punitive psychiatry.
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What do you expect? It's their club and their rules and there are 27 of them in that club. A person requesting to leave a club cannot be treated with the same favouritism as a member, otherwise there is no point in having a club. I don't think they would have given better terms to anyone else, because the backstop, which is a sticking point for many MPs, is a key element for Europe. Her problem was fourfold I think. 1) Holding an unnecessary election in 2017 which lost her overall majority in the House of Commons, because she mistakenly thought she would have a great victory over the opposition, and 2) putting party interests before the country's. She should have consulted MPs earlier about what sort of deal or Brexit they would support.3) She has terrible judgement in people. Appointing Boris Johnson, David Davies and later Dominic Raab to key positions regarding Brexit negotiations, was appointing people with very limited abilities, strong prejudices and little knowledge - not people who are on top of their briefs 4) Once she makes her mind up it's difficult to get her to change it. She's inflexible. Not so good in the situation she is in. In her defence, if she'd done 2) the likelihood is that her party would have ejected her as leader, and also until the Brexit implications became clearer I don't think many MPs were clear about what type of Brexit they would support. Is Theresa pronounced Terayza or is it pronounced Tereeza? I'm inclined to think that only pretentious folk pronounce it Terayza.
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@cameronneff6002 We have the benefit of the NHS (National Health Service) because people are willing to pay for it through taxation, and it's not just about you paying for other people. It's about others also paying for you if you should need help. It's a social insurance system really where all the admin is done for you and the worry about being able to afford treatment if you need it is taken away. That is really worth having. There will always be some people who try to cheat a welfare system but that doesn't mean that overall it isn't worth doing. Basic education is free (primary and secondary (high school), paid for by taxpayers and that's worth doing too. Imagine what society would be like if only a small percentage of people were educated. Cuba doesn't operate in any level playing field because the USA has kept up a trade embargo against it for many decades now. Nevertheless they have achieved remarkable results in education and healthcare considering that, and when you compare it to some other countries in the region, and it wouldn't leave you to die without treatment as in the US if you have no insurance and no means of paying. Greece only voted in a socialist government after they got into financial difficulty - partly their own fault - the Greeks are big tax avoiders, so they could not afford their welfare state, and there was no efficient enforcement of tax collection, and it was partly a result of being in the EU which forces countries to meet certain financial requirements that suit some countries more than others. Hard working people supporting themselves are the backbone of society and families, I agree, but that doesn't mean there can't be sensible arrangements to improve life and society for all, without being too much of a burden on working individuals. You don't mention that the US keeps spending billions of taxpayers money on wars, without asking you whether that's how you want your money spent. There are choices to be made when it comes to what to spend taxpayers money on.
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Do people have no perspective or sense of priorities? Frailties of old age are not the same as corruption and attacks on democracy. Taxation is the price of civilisation. If businesses want none of it, how will they fare in a world without police, army, fire service, education, a health service, prisons, environmental oversight, food, welfare and public health protections, litter collection, and all the other public services it goes to pay for. Being a bit richer in a horrible feral world, is that worth it?
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@genericusername3212 You know nothing do you? We'll be down the plughole if we try leaving without a deal just on WTO terms. No country in the world trades just on WTO terms because in trading terms it's the 4th division. They all want deals with a big trading block which is the premier division which is where we are now. So what happens if we go to no deal WTO terms? We have to then set a tariff for trading with the world and under WTO terms it has to be the same tariff for everyone we trade with in the same goods. If we set a tariff that will push prices up for UK consumers and we'll be worse off. If we set a zero tariff (possible under the rules) our farming and manufacturing won't be able to compete with cheap imports from countries where workers have no rights and are paid pennies an hour so our farming and manufacturing industries will be destroyed. Patrick Minford, an economist who is for a hard Brexit says the same about the future of British farming and manufacturing. It will affect other economic sectors also. Wealthy people like ex stockbroker Farage and Jacob Rees Mogg will be raking it in because WTO rules do not regulate financial systems and they will be even more free to squirrel away their profits to tax havens around the world. Also over 80% of our exports are services and 49% of those are to the EU. The day we hard Brexit, those services with lose their 'passport' rights to European EU countries, which is why businesses are talking about moving their headquarters to the Europe. The very people who want Brexit because they are suffering under the present government's austerity programme, will be stuffed even more under no deal Brexit. None of this was explained before the Referendum by a campaign that wasn't even talking about a no deal Brexit. As for getting trade deals, as a member of the EU, we have over 40 trade deals that will no longer apply the day we go out on no deal and Liam Fox only had a handful lined up to replace them. Trade deals take years to negotiate because they are complex covering everything traded between countries. Trump is protectionist and the US is a larger economy than ours, and if we want a trade deal with the USA it will be very much on his terms, as he doesn't need to deal. His negotiators have already said they want access to NHS funding for their corporations as part of the deal and for us to take their farming products like chlorine washed chicken and hormone fed beef, and contaminated baby food- practices currently banned by the EU. China and Russia are not our friends and in any case they don't allow countries to export freely to theirs. They are protectionist. Asian countries have each other to trade with nearby. The only thing India wants from us is more visas for people to come here. Other countries won't make up for the loss of the big trading area on our doorstep (the EU). The way out of our problems is to vote for a party that will do something about inequality in the UK and protect jobs and trade, and that's not the Tories or the Brexit party. Farage has stated he is for replacing the NHS with an insurance based market system. He is for taking restrictions off the sale of handguns and he has other right wing policies too. If we set a zero tariff, that would be zero for EU trade also, except as outsiders the EU would be placing a tariff on us (could be 40%). That would make us uncompetitive in trading with the EU. You can't just count the cost of trading with the EU in terms of our subscriptions. You have to count the benefits to the economy too and the health and welfare of people to get the whole picture.
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jon smith. Look at Russia's track record on political murders, torture and imprisonment and the fact that Putin is on record as saying he can't ever forgive 'traitors' such as defectors. Here is some of their 'track record':
Galina Starovoitova, opposition Duma Deputy killed
Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, shot and killed
Mikhail Trepashkin jailed after a secret trial on espionage charges.
Yuri Shchekochikhin, poisoned, Russian authorities refused to allow an autopsy
Mikhail Trepashkin, a former KGB spy imprisoned
Mikhail Khodorkovsky, sent to Siberia
Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, shot dead in his home
Paul Klebnikov, editor Russian edition Forbes magazine, shot and killed in Moscow
Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.
Andrei Kozlov, shot and killed in Moscow
Anna Politkovskaya, journalist, shot and killed in Moscow.
Paul M. Joyal, shot in street
Stanslav Markelov Russian human rights attorney shot in the back of the head
Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student. Shot in the back of the head. Moscow.
Boris Nemtsov, Russian opposition politician, shot in the streets of Moscow near the Kremlin 2015
Natalia Estemirova leading Russian human rights journalist and activist,shot and killed
Nikolai Glushkov – Russian businessman in the UK who had been given asylum – strangled in England
Sergei Skripal – UK former spy – double agent poisoned with Novichok gas 2018
Yulia Skirpal UK daughter of Sergei Skripal poisoned with Novichok gas 2018
Sergei Magnitsky – Accountant in USSR who was investigating and exposed tax fraud by the Russian state. Imprisoned and died in prison after being beaten up. Prosecuted by the Russian state even after his death.
Maxim Borodin – journalist found dying on the ground outside his 5th floor flat
Mikhail Beketov – journalist left brain damaged and later died
Oleg Kashin journalist left seriously injured after an assault
Tatyana Felgengauer – journalist, stabbed in the neck while at work
Alexander Perepilichnyy
Boris Berezovsky
6 Russian Diplomats who have died since Trump's victory
Alexander Kadakin – Russia's ambassador to India
Andrey Malanan Senior Russian diplomat in Greece
Vitaly Churkin Russian ambassador to the UN
Denis Voronenkon Russian politician who had fled to Ukraine
Migayas Shirinskiy Russia's ambassador to Sudan
Alexander Litvinenko. KGB defector. Poisoned with Polonium.
In the Crimea
UN's June 2018 Crimea report accuses the Russian Federation of grave human rights violations in Ukraine. e.g multiple cases of torture e.g.
Ibrahim Mirpochchaev (sic?) Crimean journalist, abducted with his father and 2 brothers. Beaten for hours, asphyxiated with plastic bags, strangled, repeatedly tasered and violated with a hard probe used to electrocute him internally.
Renat Paralamov, Crimean Tartar similar tale, forced confession.
Server Karametov, 76 year old with Parkinson's disease prosecuted for holding a placard in support of 70 Crimean tartars being tried for multiple simultaneous peaceful lone demonstrations.
Ervin Ibragimov, Tartar leader, dragged off by men in uniform May 2016. Not seen since.
Oleg Sentsov, Crimean film maker, sentenced to 20 years in gaol.
Olexander Kolchenko, his assistant, sentenced to 10 years.
Gennady Afanasayev beaten, suffocated, stripped, threatened with rape and jailed, to force him to testify against Oleg Sentsov. He withdrew his testimony at the trial.
Nariman Memediminov, Tartar activist, forcibly committed to a psychiatric hospital- a measure described by his lawyer as punitive psychiatry.
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@Trancedd I do believe there are conspiracies from time to time (or I would categorise many of them as balls ups followed by cover ups) but not global ones. Globally the nations of the world can't seem to agree on anything, let alone agree a global conspiracy and make it lasting and keep it secret. There's no evidence of that and people who latch on to those ideas seem to be those who are not educated enough to understand how world economies work. Most of the world lives in a capitalist system and that has certain pressures and ways of working that will play out worldwide. They are pressures inherent in how the sytem works - not a load of worldwide shady characters plotting in some indefinable way. I don't know why you think I think that corporate narratives are always valid. That's not the case. Corporate business will cover up when it can but you seem to think there's a whole conspiracy level which includes corporations, governments, scientists, the public sector and I don't know what. You do not seem to recognise when information is honest and valid.It's like when people lose trust in what they are being told, in the end they can no longer tell truth from lies,and that's the real damage of all the lies that now pervade governments and corporations, but the truth is still there to be found. It's just not recognised by many, when it's seen. Democracy is an important thing which allows us to kick out government and express our views. Distrust anyone who takes measures to decrease democracy, to make it difficult to vote, or to pack the judiciary and the executive with government friends and supporters. A certain amount of that will always happen but there are checks and balances which should not be removed. In the end voters choose who they will listen to and the less educated they are the more they can be persuaded to blame scapegoats for the problems of the country or the economy. That's a sad fact. I wish it wasn't so,
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I'm sure he doesn't consciously use a formula. It's just part of his natural response based on his personality. He has said he tries to make people feel comfortable and his object is to be entertaining and get his guests to be entertaining, not to rip them apart. People like him but I don't think that's an objective of his. His objective is to produce an entertaining and fun show. A lot of Irish presenters in the UK have been successful. Irish charm? They seem much more comfortable in interviewing roles and able to put people at their ease. By the way, Robert De Niro has been on the show several times and doesn't say much but seems happy to be there. Graham has said he doesn't mind that Robert De Niro doesn't say much. He's happy to have him there along with other guests who will say a lot. The other thing is that Graham also seems nice and sincere. He doesn't seem to be manipulating people for his own ends to make himself look good. Occasionally people do react to Graham by getting upset or seeming to, and having a go back at him. He does not react defensively but takes the attack in his stride, and then skillfully moves on to defuse the person's upset feelings. People do seem to realise that if they were to get seriously angry with Graham, it would be like getting angry with a puppy. They are the ones who would come off looking bad in the eyes of the audience so no one really goes there. Another thing he does is allow people to drink alcohol if they want to. That usually relaxes them, and allows them to open up a bit more. It creates a party atmosphere and expectations of a fun time. However, it has backfired occasionally with the occasional guest getting too drunk and talking too much, not making much sense, or falling asleep. The trick is that he always has about 3 or 4 people on the couch by the end of the show, and gambles that not all 4 conversations will fail. He also has a rare combination of having a thick skin (personally) while being quite sensitive to other people and the signals they are giving off and being quick witted himself and able to give funny and apt responses to the unexpected revelations from his guests. Oh, and another thing, if guests are talking to each other and being entertaining he does not interrupt and doesn't necessarily stick rigidly to his script, recognising that something special is happening that should be allowed to continue. He facilitates conversations and is able to guide them skillfully if necessary. Conversations are not censored it seems, and Graham seems genuinely unshockable though he can act shocked in a comical and exaggerated way sometimes, but never seems truly uncomfortable, always seeming very accepting of his guests.
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@philippayne4951 I can tell you've been listening to the spin rather than looking at any facts. We'll be down the plughole if we try leaving without a deal just on WTO terms. No country in the world trades just on WTO terms because in trading terms it's the 4th division. They all want deals with a big trading block which is the premier division which is where we are now. It's a bit of a myth that the EU controls us. There are some rules of membership but 99% of what the UK spends is determined by the UK government. So what happens if we go to no deal WTO terms? We have to then set a tariff for trading with the world and under WTO terms it has to be the same tariff for everyone we trade with in the same goods. If we set a tariff that will push prices up for UK consumers and we'll be worse off. If we set a zero tariff (possible under the rules) our farming and manufacturing won't be able to compete with cheap imports from countries where workers have no rights and are paid pennies an hour so our farming and manufacturing industries will be destroyed. Don't just take my word for it. Patrick Minford, an economist who is for a hard Brexit says the same about the future of British farming and manufacturing. It will affect other economic sectors also. Wealthy people like ex stockbroker Farage and Jacob Rees Mogg will be raking it in because WTO rules do not regulate financial systems and they will be even more free to squirrel away their profits to tax havens around the world. Also over 80% of our exports are services and 49% of those are to the EU. The day we hard Brexit, those services with lose their 'passport' rights to European EU countries, which is why businesses are talking about moving their headquarters to the Europe. The very people who want Brexit because they are suffering under the present government's austerity programme, will be stuffed even more under no deal Brexit. None of this was explained before the Referendum by a campaign that wasn't even talking about a no deal Brexit. As for getting trade deals, as a member of the EU, we have over 40 trade deals that will no longer apply the day we go out on no deal and after 3 years there are only has a handful lined up to replace them. Trade deals take years to negotiate because they are complex covering everything traded between countries. Trump is protectionist and the US is a larger economy than ours, and if we want a trade deal with the USA it will be very much on his terms, as he doesn't need to deal. His negotiators have already said they want access to NHS funding for their corporations as part of the deal and for us to take their farming products like chlorine washed chicken, hormone fed beef and contaminated baby food- practices currently banned by the EU. China and Russia are not our friends and in any case they don't allow countries to export freely to theirs. They are protectionist. Asian countries have each other to trade with nearby. The only thing India wants from us is more visas for people to come here. Other countries won't make up for the loss of the big trading area on our doorstep (the EU). The way out of our problems is to vote for a party that will do something about inequality in the UK and protect jobs and trade, and that's not the Tories or the Brexit party. Farage has stated he is for replacing the NHS with an insurance based market system. He is for taking restrictions off the sale of handguns and he has other right wing policies too. If we set a zero tariff, that would be zero for EU trade also, except as outsiders the EU would be placing a tariff on us (could be 40%). That would make us uncompetitive in trading with the EU. You can't just count the cost of trading with the EU in terms of our subscriptions. You have to count the benefits to the economy too and the health and welfare of people to get the whole picture.
Here's the article about USA baby food. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/17/health/baby-foods-arsenic-lead-toxic-metals-wellness/index.html Moreover, the Tories will want to follow the US or Singapore model of economy where workers don't have such good terms or as many rights as in the EU. US workers haven't had a pay rise in real terms since the 1970s. Boris, in his leave agreement with the EU, has removed workers rights from the mandatory part of the agreement and placed them in the non mandatory part (the political statement) which means the government can drop them at any time.
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@danormal1707 Here's what the doctor in 'Private Eye' magazine says: "Covid is much less likely to be fatal in the under 50s but evidence is emerging it may cause severe long-term health consequences, even if the initial infection appeared relatively mild. A small study of 100 German patients who had recovered from Covid had MRI scans of the heart and it was found that 78 had 'cardiac involvement' and 60 had ongoing myocardial inflammation, which was independent of, any other conditions they had, how severe the illness was and how long it lasted. Whether this translates into long term damage remains to be seen. In terms of lung damage the NHS is anticipating that Covid survivors will have more chronic cough, fibrotic lung disease, bronchiectasis and pulmonary vascular disease. Those who have been in intensive care will have long term rehabilitation needs. The Long Covid Support Group study estimates that 10% of people with the virus take at least 3 weeks to recover with 250,000 people in the UK thought to experience symptoms for 30 days or more. Brain fog, chronic pain, headaches, dizziness, nausea, palpitations, shortness of breath, post exertional malaise and a severe reduction in everyday activities, and many are suffering anxiety and low mood. Overall, it's a virus best avoided."
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On Channel 4 (the channel Dorries wants to flog off, remember), an expert was talking about how most of our gas comes from our own shores, The North Sea, and though it's subject to world pricing, we don't have to go along with that. The government could unilaterally reduce or cap the price of our supplies, but will they even think about doing that? I doubt it. The other piece of information I came across was that the energy companies the government met with over the last few days are the retailers (the ones that are barely surviving) and not the wholesalers (the ones that are raking in the massive profits). Not very useful, and it didn't produce any new announcements about help. In politics, where there's a will, there's a way, but I detect no will in this government to really get to grips with the issue in a way that will stave off the massive pressure on people's finances that's to come.
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@greeny202ab .Political union is no longer something being discussed by the EU. It's being quietly shelved. The world is moving to protectionism and power blocks. Britain would be starting off with no deals and having to negotiate them which could take years. We will be at a disadvantage as we will be more desperate for deals than any country we want them with. Other countries will have their trading deals and arrangements already established. We'll be down the plughole if we try leaving without a deal just on WTO terms. No country in the world trades just on WTO terms because in trading terms it's the 4th division. They all want deals with a big trading block which is the premier division which is where we are now. It's a bit of a myth that the EU controls us. There are some rules of membership but 99% of what the UK spends is determined by the UK government. So what happens if we go to no deal WTO terms? We have to then set a tariff for trading with the world and under WTO terms it has to be the same tariff for everyone we trade with in the same goods. If we set a tariff that will push prices up for UK consumers and we'll be worse off. If we set a zero tariff (possible under the rules) our farming and manufacturing won't be able to compete with cheap imports from countries where workers have no rights and are paid pennies an hour so our farming and manufacturing industries will be destroyed. Don't just take my word for it. Patrick Minford, an economist who is for a hard Brexit says the same about the future of British farming and manufacturing. It will affect other economic sectors also. Wealthy people like ex stockbroker Farage and Jacob Rees Mogg will be raking it in because WTO rules do not regulate financial systems and they will be even more free to squirrel away their profits to tax havens around the world. Also over 80% of our exports are services and 49% of those are to the EU. The day we hard Brexit, those services with lose their 'passport' rights to European EU countries, which is why businesses are talking about moving their headquarters to the Europe. The very people who want Brexit because they are suffering under the present government's austerity programme, will be stuffed even more under no deal Brexit. None of this was explained before the Referendum by a campaign that wasn't even talking about a no deal Brexit. As for getting trade deals, as a member of the EU, we have over 40 trade deals that will no longer apply the day we go out on no deal and the government only has a handful lined up to replace them. Trade deals take years to negotiate because they are complex covering everything traded between countries. Trump is protectionist and the US is a larger economy than ours, and if we want a trade deal with the USA it will be very much on his terms, as he doesn't need to deal. His negotiators have already said they want access to NHS funding for their corporations as part of the deal and for us to take their farming products like chlorine washed chicken and hormone fed beef - practices currently banned by the EU. China and Russia are not our friends and in any case they don't allow countries to export freely to theirs. They are protectionist. Asian countries have each other to trade with nearby. The only thing India wants from us is more visas for people to come here. Other countries won't make up for the loss of the big trading area on our doorstep (the EU). The way out of our problems is to vote for a party that will do something about inequality in the UK and protect jobs and trade, and that's not the Tories or the Brexit party. Farage has stated he is for replacing the NHS with an insurance based market system. He is for taking restrictions off the sale of handguns and he has other right wing policies too. If we set a zero tariff, that would be zero for EU trade also, except as outsiders the EU would be placing a tariff on us (could be 40%). That would make us uncompetitive in trading with the EU. You can't just count the cost of trading with the EU in terms of our subscriptions. You have to count the benefits to the economy too and the health and welfare of people to get the whole picture.
Here's a little taste of what low standards in relation to health and safety are like in the USA - the kind of standards we'll be pressed to accept.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/17/health/baby-foods-arsenic-lead-toxic-metals-wellness/index.html
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@monicawarner4091 Most people don't read Manifestos. The Labour one unlike the Tory one was costed. A lot of the projects were investment ones, just like people borrow to invest in a house which they expect to increase in value in the long run, but again most people don't understand economics do they? The Labour manifesto was about investment for growth and actually covered a period longer than 5 years. Spending would not have happened all in one Parliament. Now this government has spent far more than Labour's manifesto would have cost, but not for any investment or growth. The Tories always say Labour's plans are unaffordable and they they steal some of them and find the money tree themselves, especially for their supporters, friends and lobbyists. They still haven't published the £37bn of no competition contracts, in spite of a legal requirement to do so. I don't think Labour would have made such a bad job of handling the pandemic as they would have prepared for it as many reports had advised the government, followed the science early on, and closed borders and air travel when necessary. The Tory policies are resulting in not enough health workers or care workers, and not enough HGV drivers or not enough people to pick crops in the fields. I watched a BBC report today about how the British economy hasn't bounced back since Covid, unlike the USA, and unlike other European countries. The obvious reason is Brexit which is a horrendous mess but you don't read about it much in the media and the BBC didn't mention it. They seem to be protecting the government now that they have a conservative appointed as Chairman and one as Director General. The last Labour government's financial problems were due to a global banking crisis with the government spending billions to bail out the banks. The regulation of banks was too light but Tories had wanted even lighter regulation, and if they'd not bailed out the banks there would have been a crisis of confidence in capitalism and people's savings would have been lost too.
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