Comments by "Seek1878" (@loner1878) on "MasterofRoflness"
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Wizard Waluigi lol hunny I addressed and debunked all your arguments and weak "points." And incel insults are hardly "arguments." The random nonsense is all yours, as I pointed out repeatedly. Most anti abortion leaders are men, actually. And there were women who opposed women being given the right to vote and opposed the ERA, anti abortion women are just sad modern day examples of such regressives. Heck, it was women who kept alive the tradition of footbinding in China for the most part.
LOL keep on embarssing yourself by showing you know nothing of actual history. Name these "eugenic scientists" who invented "avortion" despite it having existed for thousands of years around the world.
Hunny, you forced birthers are the ones who reply on twisting language and manipulation - you use emotional arguments and insults, and as you repeatedly demonstrate, flat out lies and conspiracy nuttery.
"but yet farm chickens get more rights than they do."
lol, you might want to read up on factory farming if you think that's true hon LOL.
Hunny, you're the one who claimed racism off the bat. So techinically you used the "isms" first XD Egg on your face.
LOL, why would a background in radiology qualify you to speak on abortion? I'm sure you've given some deluded speeches at your youth group or something, I had to sit through those as a catholic kid myself (fortunately broke through the delusions early on).
Riiiiight, you're going to cry about your character being "demeaned" when in some of your last comments you called pro choice people names and accused them of detailed sexual behaviors straight out of an incel playbook? lol ease up on the hypocrsy, kiddo.
I haven't run away from any argument, I've debunked all of yours head on while you try to avoid mine, you provide no sources and widly shift the goalposts when I debunk your claims. Its clear as day to anyone looking at the comments.
Once again, facts show its mostly white women who have abortions. And you avoid the fact that you're essentially saying you think black women need to have their reproductive choices controlled.
Your ignorance of history shines through again, lol. Maybe brush up on the Southern Strategy and see how republicans were once the more progressive party and democrats were once the conservative one, over the decades politics and voters switched. Southern jim crow democrats (think Strom Thurmond) become the modern day GOP. Let me dumb it down for you - which party has people waving confederate flags and crying over "muh heritage" when confederate slave owner statues are taken down? Hint - it ain't the democrats.
"Why have loyalty to a party that hanged your people?" That sounds like a good question to ask Mike Pence, lol.
Once again hunny, abortions have existed for thousands of years. You should at least try and make sense of your arguments before writing them out.
Once again the "isms" are yours.
Your whining about the media only makes sense if you ingore all of fox news and every right wing media outlet, lol. YT is full of anti abortion BS videos. And too bad you were so easily swayed by BS anti abortion sites, lol.
Like I pointed out in my last post to you, no one has a later term abortion for shits and giggles. And I guess you're admitting here that you agree with me that first trimester abortions don't look like actual babies then? I think colonoscopies and heart surgery are gross to look at, do I get to demand they be banned on that basis?
Once again, that's like telling me to oppose condoms because people are born survivng those, lol. I laready pointed out such so called "survivors" have questionable stories but people like you lap it up because it validates your ignorant beliefs.
There you go playing the victim again, lol. Heartbeats mean nothing, you can get heart cells beating in a petri dish. Brain function happens in later trimesters, are you okay with abortions that happen before nervous system completion then? "Can cry" is just typical emotional manupulation, lol.
Hunny, you literally want laws passed FORCING women to give birth against their will. No denying that. And I pointed it out to your comment of being forced to abort, you just turning that around is lazy and avoiding the contrast. Study after sytudy shows the vast majority of women do not regret their abortions. There are those who regret adoption or even having kids, but we would never consider banning adoption or having kids on that basis. lol citing a google search, you're funny. There's an article about one woman who CLAIMS she can remember and she has a specific rare condition. Hardly your claim that people all over can remember, lol.
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Wizard Waluigi ROFL "statistical facts" - when you didn't list a single statistic. And your "history" was laughably wrong.
I love that you admit you see rape victims as an "excuse." Way to show your true feelings towards rape victims. I know people like you love to dismiss rape, but its honestly pretty disgusting to see you so openly gleeful about it (and cry that I'm somehow I'm the one "defaming" your character lol)
Hate to tell you, but the majority of bans DO NOT HAVE RAPE EXCEPTIONS. You do remember that shortly after the SC court ruling, a pregnant 10 year old rape victim from Ohio had to travel to Indiana for an abortion? One rape victim was so inconvinient to your side that right wing media claimed she didn't even exist yet the doctor who did her abortion was threatened by right wing politicans, and when the perpetrator was caught the narrative had to shift to her abortion being called "not an abortion." That's how delusional your side is willing to be.
"Even the most RIGHT LEANING POLITICIANS SAY THAT RAPE pregnancies should be allowed to be aborted."
No they don't. And like I pointed out above, please explain why the states with bans DON'T HAVE THE RAPE/INCEST EXCEPTIONS?
"or medical reasons."
Once again your ignorance is showing. Women have been forced to risk sepsis and other complications because doctors are afraid of potential legal ramifications. In Missouri, a PRO LIFE woman named Mylissa Farmer was denied an emergency abortion at 17 weeks due to loss of amniotic fluid, meaning she was risking sepsis, loss of the uterus and even death. She contacted her republican state senator, Bill White, who just told her to go to an anti abortion center and never contacted her again. In Texas, a woman named Amanda Zurawski went through similar compications but wasn't "sick enough" for doctors to help her and she had to wait until SEPSIS developed before the could take out the doomed fetus.
That's the bullcrap reality going on, hun. Its only a matter of time before women die because of these laws. Not that people like you care, of course.
Get a clue before blabbing.
Hunny, birth control failure is the most common reason for abortion.
I already pointed out to you that abortion CANNOT be a contraceptive because contraception means preventing conception, LMAO. Thanks for embarassing yourself even further, so much for your supposed biology background!
Tell your imaginary friend I said hi. Anyways, no one can force an abortion, but under the laws you support, literal children will be forced to give birth against their will. Where's your concern for forcing there?
Once again you go for emotional manipualtion by calling balls of cells "defenseless babies", lol.
Your "point" makes no sense. You're not even aware that the laws don't have the exceptions you claim they do or what these laws are doing to people.
The laws you support are cruel and evil. Get a clue.
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Wizard Waluigi You made incel style insults and comments, then get huffy about being called out on them, lol. So maybe think about things you say before saying them, m'kay?
"You still completely ignore people who are forced to birth."
Um no, I think you owned yourself there lol.
Many girls and women have been threatened by parents who will kick them out if they choose to have an abortion, and many men try to force women to give birth as a means of control over them. Its very common for women fleeing doemstic violence situations to try to access abortions once they are away from their abusers. I volunteer in groups that help and the number of boyfriends who tamper with birth control to try to force a pregnancy is very common. Read up on reproductive coercion sometime.
LOL I'm sure you would value the guy's opinion if they were the ones who wanted the abortion and the woman didn't, right? You would side with whoever didn't want the abortion, don't even try to deny that.
You know perfectly well you would save a newborn baby over a test tube with multiple frozen embryos in it. Not sure what a "sea section" is lol. Or why a c-section is even relevant on the subject?
The problem with claiming an embryo will always grow is it ignored how common miscarriages and failure to implant is - up to 50% of fertilized eggs get flushed out before pregnancy is detected and look like regular late periods. Since you would consider that to be a "person" would you support mandatory inspections of all tampons/pads of mensturating women so that funerals and death certificates be mandated?
The end result is the same with a condom or abortion - a hypothetical person simply doesn't exist.
"Salt based acid injection" LMAO that sounds like a great band name. I love your dramatics. lol @ acid especially, your lack of medical knowledge is ever more apparent XD
"your prevented abortion stories?" lol what is that and where did I say any?
"If the aborted fetus comes out crying and its head melting"
Dude LMAO do you just say the first ting that pops into your head? I'm seriously laughing at how dramatic youre trying to be.
"To say majority of people and states do not allow rape, incest, or medical abortions is a lie"
Except its not a lie, you are simply being deliberately ignorant. Currently 15 states with abortion bans have no exception for rape or incest.
"because I literally am against them!"
Oh how cute. That doesn't change the bans on them.
Also, the fact that you support a rape exception makes an interesting point - if your concern is that you think embryos are people, why should rape matter to you? Making an excpetion for rape indicates that your issue isn't concern for the fetus but a desire to see women punished for choosing to have sex.
Adoption is an alternative to parenting, not pregnancy and birth.
You know what every other group that has done mass murders have done? See women as disposable vessels for breeding. Nazis outlawed abortion for German women and during the ethnic cleansing in Serbia and Rwanda rape was weaponized with the goal of impregnanting women against their will.
Hnny, I knew you would try and dismiss rapes as some small percentage, your forced birthers love to try and diminish rape victims in general (and the number your side always tries to cite varies from 1% to 5% because you pull it out of your ass), but that's actually shooting yourself in the foot, not me. If you think rape pregnancies can be dismissed because they're "just one 1%" then why are you pearl clutching about late term abortion methods when they are literally 1% of abortions (supported by actual data). You just outed yourself as a hypocrite again, lol.
Once again a cell clump is not a baby. And you have no basis to cliam that abortion doctors get "mental diseases" lol, that is some of the laziest anti abortion propaganda ever.
Embryos do not "look" human, lol. You wouldn't be able to tell a pig embryo from a dog embryo from a human embryo.
You can "believe" what you want. You do not have a right to impose your belief on anyone else.
Once again, a clump of cells is not a baby. Indeed, things that don't have brains don't have opinions, and literally don't have the ability to say anything about an opinion that doesn't exist lol. You're not their voice, you are using your own voice to impose your opinions on balls of cells. Your drama is just getting old and repetetive at this point, lol. But I suspect you were lying about supporting rape exceptions in abortion bans. There is no brain function until late trimesters. See my prior point about animal and human ambryos looking identical.
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Wizard Waluigi I'm not pro forced anything. You literally dream of a world where all women and girls are forced by laws and threats to give birth against their will. Plenty of women are threatened with being left and kicked out of homes over wanting an abortion but I get the feeling you support that. The hypocrisy is all yours. And your side loves to claim women are all being forced to abort because it gives the image of women being too weak to make their own decisions.
LOL "literally the abortion method used." You lazily paraphrasing does not make it the method used.
LOL "all the major functions." At 12 weeks there is no brain, spinal cord, nervous system formed. All the organs are in a rough predecessor states and would not be able to function to keep the embryo alive on their own.
Go back and read my point about how many fertilized eggs and up flushed out looking like a regular period. And I notice you dodged my question about mandating inspections to detect said lost eggs/people in your opinion.
You're the one dodging questions here, lol. I answer all of yours. By DNA its always been human. But simply having human DNA doesn't make one a living person. And even if it didn, no actual living person would have the right to use someone else's body for their benefit.
C'mon now, genocide is defined as "the deliberate killing of people belonging to a speficic racial, cultural or political group. Are embryos any of those three things? Nope. Is anyone systematically killing all fetuses? Nope. Does anyone want to wipe out all fetuses? Nope.
"There is only mass pregnancy because they are savages. If they wanted to kill them they would have done it."
lol what does this even mean?
"Natural" does not mean "good", kiddo. Cancer is natural. Blindness is natural. Forced birth leaves people scarred. And given how high maternal death rates are in the U.S., yes, pregnancy will be a death sentence for many.
Well unfortunately humans didn't evolve the way seahorses did to share pregnancy and birth between the sexes. Take it up with biology if you feel that's unequal. In human pregnancies, men do not face an equal share of risks to their health or life and therefore do not have the equality of experience to have a veto over a pregnancy. Also, in your opinion should a man be able to decide the woman should have an abortion even if she doesn't want to? Or does it only go one way?
I always knew you would try and argue some statistic about rape to try and argue against abortion, your side always does lol. So that's why we counter with the point about late term pregnancies being 1% yet your side being utterly obsessed with them. Its more hypocrisy from your side.
You do realize you openly posted misogynistic insults for all to see, right? Maybe you went back and deleted/edited them when I called you out on them but everyone knows when a reply has been edited, lol. And if it doesn't matter to you what I call you why keep whining about it, lol?
The paranoid reality is all yours, hunny. Birth is a brutal process, its actually 14x more likely to kill a person than an abortion. An abortion won't cause a woman to rip from the her vagina to anus (real and sadly common injury). I'm sorry to disappoint you but lobotomies have nothing to do with gynecology, lol. And once again you desperately resort to hysterics about the abortion process using emotional lanaguage and drama. lol "salt based substance", the word is saline. Get that much right if you claim to work in a medical field.
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Wizard Waluigi I'm sure you went back and edited that once I pointed it out, lol.
I already pointed out diseases are natural too, being natural doesn't make something good. C sections are unnatural too, the natural thing would be to let the woman and fetus die, let's see you rail against that?
LMAO so illegal abortions mean no forced abortions, just forced legal births. You must be dizzy going in such circles. You are making up these stories, no doctor would ever claim to diagnose autism in utero as that is not detectable from any test. But since we're sharing stories, my grandmother had an illegal abortion, she needed to since her last pregnancy had almost killed her and she knew this pregnancy would end her if it went full term. And she's still alive today at 96 because of it. My own mother had an abortion with her second pregancy after an infection developed which could have easily killer her. She's also alive today and went on to have my younger brother. Would you be happier had she done the natural thing and died instead? Growing up I lived for a few years in a country where abortion is illegal in ALL cases - and guess what, suicide is one of the leading causes of death for pregnant women there.
LOL you can't "insult" something by calling it what it is. The right on the other hand, insults women by reducing them to walking incubators.
You do realize you're simply spewing the old hypocrisy by crying about insults when you led with vicious misogynistic ones, right? And you expose yourself as ignorant/uneducated when you present weak arguments and flat out lies.
You (again) skipped over the part where I said its always human by DNA but that doesn't equal personhood. Go back and read.
And you continue to fail to grap the hypocrisy of your side trying to dismiss rape victims by saying "jUsT 1%" when you scream about late term abortions in the same breath.
Plenty of animal testing still happens, sorry to tell you. And you do know vets terminate animal pregnancies all the time, right? No one is protesting those, which makes your point moot.
LOL "brutal for embryos" - how is something brutal for a literal cell blob that can think or feel nothing?
LOL please quote where I said third trimester abortions are "unfavoriable." You're just making stuff up now.
I haven't ignored that point. You have ignored my answer about DNA =/= personhood. And condom survivors exist, as I pointed out.
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Wizard Waluigi You find it "impossible to have a conversation" but still rant for several paragraphs? lol kay. If you want to run away from the convo just do that. And what 'small things' am I supposed to believe in? If you say something with a glaring error in it reasonable people will question it.
You claimed a doctor claimed a fetus would likely be autistic, but that is not credible because the exact cause of autism is not known and it cannot be diagnosed in utero. Therefore that's either made up OR you claimed the wrong medical condition. And I said "abortion survivors" exist the way condom survivors exist.
LOL no I called you out for trying to dismiss rape pregnancies while clutching your pearls about late term pregnancies. Once again cell clumps aren't babies.
Yes, I would have just been cells if my mother aborted me. I wouldn't know the difference any more than if she had married someone other than my dad or become a nun. Same result, I just wouldn't exist. Lol I have no idea why you people think that's a good argument or why you're such special snowflakes that the world would have been altered by you not existing. Yes there's a risk in pregnancy, hence why no one should be forced into it against their will.
My point is almost half of all zygotes naturally fail to grow and get flushed out in miscarriages. Also did you ever make up your mind about whether inspections need to be mandated to detect those? And that cell clumps aren't babies.
You do know that Hitler (and Stalin, for that matter) OUTLAWED abortion when they took power? See, they felt their version of morality was superior and should be imposed on people against their will. Sound familiar?
Also I don't think you know what "braindead" means - braindead means a person is dead and on life support machines. No brain activity, no chance for recovery. That's not the same as a coma. And I recall you tried to claim you worked in the medical field?
I find it interesting you dismiss the idea of shooting a woman and hyperfocus on an embryo. And I've already addressed third trimester - those are not done for shits and giggles. I've also pointed out the hypocrisy of your side trying to dismiss rape pregnancies for being "1%" while screaming your lungs out about third trimester abortions which are actually 1% of all abortions, I think you need to reread the previous comments since you're clearly running out of ideas, lol. Abortions don't happen one day before birth, I don't know why your side clings to that fantasy so hard, lol.
"over 95% of abortions are because not wanting to deal with consequences."
Do you think you sound like you value life when you refer to children as "consequences"? Children shouldn't be brought into the world as punishments.
LOL you keep ignoring my answer, I can only assume my answer rattles you. So here it is again, let's see you ignore it and ask again in the next rambling: Its always been human by DNA. But having human DNA does not make cells a person. Simple. Fetus is the correct term up until birth. By arguing "babies" you are whining about semantics, not science.
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