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  959.  @QueenoftheRandoms  Actually she wasn't. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  987. So much bullshit. -Abby Woods is a liar who gets paid to open her mouth at anti abortion rallies. She was going to get fired from PP for poor performance and that's why she went running. -Most do not have OBGYN's or medical staff. You don't need certification to use an ultrasound machine. They do wear white coats in a deliberate attempt to deceive patients into thinking otherwise. -There are so many because they are run by churches and get taxpayer funding from anti abortion republicans. In other words, CPC's lack qualified medical staff and are run by volunteers with no training and a blatant agenda. Thanks for admitting as such. They also don't offer real services or have to abide by any standards medical clinics do, so its easy to run one. -They only offer "choices" approved by the anti abortion crowd. And few offer real long term help, some offer only secondhand baby items in exchange for attending bible classes. -They deliberately don't say they do or do not offer abortions. Its intentional to trick women. - Nice excuse. If abortion clinics did the tracking I'm pretty sure you'd be screaming. -They don't "offer" they harass and lie to push their "options" -I love how rape victims are nothing to you. Hundreds of thousands of women are raped every year, and 1% of a few hundred thousands is higher than you might think. I'd like to see you tell each of those women to their faces they don't matter because they are "only 1%." Also, abortion doesn't need to be justified by rape. -You are full of shit. There is no one who is solely "pro abortion." Get informed before ranting.
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  1183. If this is the most disturbing thing you've ever seen, you have led a very sheltered life. Abortion IS okay. And your god has no issue with killing actual children: "A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25)." "The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31)." "God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53)." *Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12)." "King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16)." "Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18)." "For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8)." "God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16)." "For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16)." "Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19)." Not to mention the amount of kids who die in the Bible. Sodom and Gomorrah. The Flood. Egypt. Numbers 31. Where is the value of life at all, much less regarding children? Or is this excusable because God is God, so he can do this just because and we can't do something that's actually for the woman's health or lifestyle?
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  1424. Bullshit, and a bunch of lies spread by anti abortion fanatics. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  1505. Yawn, bullshit. Sanger actually opposed abortions. She only advocated for contraceptives. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  1600. She is very much a hero. Eugenics was considered cutting edge science in her time, and people like Helen Keller, Winston Churchill and Teddy Roosevelt also championed it. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  1621. I'm saddened that you believe such a lie. Sanger was inspired to do her work mainly because she saw how having too many kids impacted her own mother, and believed it caused her early death. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community, who ASKED HER to set up a clinic to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  1820. Yawn, bullshit and anti abortion fanatic lies. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. She advocated birth control choices for ALL women, despite race or class. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  1821.  @skoz3342  I hate that people tell lies about what she actually did and forget that people like Martin Luther King had nothing but praise for her. Instead they just swallow lies that anti abortion fanatics make up about a woman who has been dead for several decades. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  1851. What you overlook about the past is that eugenics in her day was considered cutting edge science. Helen Keller, Winston Churchill, Teddy Roosevelt, and many more historical figures supported eugenics too. Sanger actually eventually left the eugenics movement because she didn't agree about controlling women by class or race. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  2171.  Wizard Waluigi  Sweetie, your incel insults and cowardly self censoring say all that needs to be said about you. I'm sorry you seethe about women hiding in your basement and are depserate for attention in youtube comments though, lol. LMAO "racist eugenic scientists." Thanks for the laugh. Abortion have existed all over the world for over 4000 years. I'm not shocked you're utterly clueless about actual history, but also that you're essentially sauing you believe black women cannot be trusted to make decisions about their own bodies and would be better off controlled by people like you. No thanks, women of color already went though that at one point in our history - nice job proving your side to be the modern day slavers again. Actually stats show most women who get abortions are white. Sorry to disappoint you, lol. And it was actually racist fears of "nativists" that white people would be outnumbered that got abortion banned in the U.S. back in the day. Actual people died in WWII. Not cell balls. Yes I've seen it. Sorry to disappoint you again, but the anti abortion propaganda posters you've been spoon fed are laregly edited up and zoomed in (if not flat out mislabled as ealier stage than they actually are). Fist trimester abortions look like regular periods for the most part. Its painfully obvious by your theatrical descriptions and false claims that you do not work with abortion care in any capacity, lol. Stop embarassing yourself. Birth is actually far more likely to cause permanent body damage than any abortion. Abortion is not a contraceptive, as contraceptive means preventing conception to begin with, lol. Get that much right before claiming to work in the medical field. And this will shock you, but no contraceptive is 100% failproof. I know a married couple that got an abortion due to the husband's vasectomy reversing itself. Its amusing to me that you pretend to be concerned about women forced to abort when your ultimate wet dream is to force every woman to give birth against their will. Mind the flagrant hypocrisy. "Post abortion guilt" is yet another desperate myth and scare tactic used by anti abortion fanatics. Study after study has debunked it, even Reagan's anti-abortion head of research was forced to admit there was no basis for it. Sorry to disappoint you again. LOL "aborted and lived." Nope, only if you play with semantics or think zombies are real. No one can remember anything from in utero, its simply impossible. And now you're spouting off stem cell conspiracy nuttery, which I'm not suprised by. Feel free to never accept any medical treatment derived from stem cells and let smarter people have it, thanks! I look forward to your next easily debunked word salad!
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  2320. Ah, so you believe that black women are incapable of making decisions on their own and people like you should control them, right? Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: " Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  2477.  @modenasolone  Pretty much everyone back then was into eugenics, Teddy Roosevelt, Hellen Keller, Winston Churchill - it was considered cutting edge science. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  2719. Because that's a load of bullshit, she advocated for ALL women to decide when and if they had children regardless of race or class. She was not a KKK member. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  3494. Yawn, bullshit. Sanger was actually against abortion, she only ever advocated birth control. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  3570. Yawn, wrong and a liar. Sanger was actually pretty progressive on race for her time. She worked with leaders in the African American community and worked to have accessible healthcare in minority areas that were usually otherwise ignored. Dr Martin Luther King Jr and his wife showered her with praise for her work: " Before reading Dr. King's speech, Mrs. Coretta Scott King declared, "I am proud tonight to say a word in behalf of your mentor, and the person who symbolizes the ideas of this organization, Margaret Sanger. Because of her dedication, her deep convictions, and for her suffering for what she believed in, I would like to say that I am proud to be a woman tonight." Dr King: "There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her."
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  4169. ​ Wizard Waluigi  lol hunny I addressed and debunked all your arguments and weak "points." And incel insults are hardly "arguments." The random nonsense is all yours, as I pointed out repeatedly. Most anti abortion leaders are men, actually. And there were women who opposed women being given the right to vote and opposed the ERA, anti abortion women are just sad modern day examples of such regressives. Heck, it was women who kept alive the tradition of footbinding in China for the most part. LOL keep on embarssing yourself by showing you know nothing of actual history. Name these "eugenic scientists" who invented "avortion" despite it having existed for thousands of years around the world. Hunny, you forced birthers are the ones who reply on twisting language and manipulation - you use emotional arguments and insults, and as you repeatedly demonstrate, flat out lies and conspiracy nuttery. "but yet farm chickens get more rights than they do." lol, you might want to read up on factory farming if you think that's true hon LOL. Hunny, you're the one who claimed racism off the bat. So techinically you used the "isms" first XD Egg on your face. LOL, why would a background in radiology qualify you to speak on abortion? I'm sure you've given some deluded speeches at your youth group or something, I had to sit through those as a catholic kid myself (fortunately broke through the delusions early on). Riiiiight, you're going to cry about your character being "demeaned" when in some of your last comments you called pro choice people names and accused them of detailed sexual behaviors straight out of an incel playbook? lol ease up on the hypocrsy, kiddo. I haven't run away from any argument, I've debunked all of yours head on while you try to avoid mine, you provide no sources and widly shift the goalposts when I debunk your claims. Its clear as day to anyone looking at the comments. Once again, facts show its mostly white women who have abortions. And you avoid the fact that you're essentially saying you think black women need to have their reproductive choices controlled. Your ignorance of history shines through again, lol. Maybe brush up on the Southern Strategy and see how republicans were once the more progressive party and democrats were once the conservative one, over the decades politics and voters switched. Southern jim crow democrats (think Strom Thurmond) become the modern day GOP. Let me dumb it down for you - which party has people waving confederate flags and crying over "muh heritage" when confederate slave owner statues are taken down? Hint - it ain't the democrats. "Why have loyalty to a party that hanged your people?" That sounds like a good question to ask Mike Pence, lol. Once again hunny, abortions have existed for thousands of years. You should at least try and make sense of your arguments before writing them out. Once again the "isms" are yours. Your whining about the media only makes sense if you ingore all of fox news and every right wing media outlet, lol. YT is full of anti abortion BS videos. And too bad you were so easily swayed by BS anti abortion sites, lol. Like I pointed out in my last post to you, no one has a later term abortion for shits and giggles. And I guess you're admitting here that you agree with me that first trimester abortions don't look like actual babies then? I think colonoscopies and heart surgery are gross to look at, do I get to demand they be banned on that basis? Once again, that's like telling me to oppose condoms because people are born survivng those, lol. I laready pointed out such so called "survivors" have questionable stories but people like you lap it up because it validates your ignorant beliefs. There you go playing the victim again, lol. Heartbeats mean nothing, you can get heart cells beating in a petri dish. Brain function happens in later trimesters, are you okay with abortions that happen before nervous system completion then? "Can cry" is just typical emotional manupulation, lol. Hunny, you literally want laws passed FORCING women to give birth against their will. No denying that. And I pointed it out to your comment of being forced to abort, you just turning that around is lazy and avoiding the contrast. Study after sytudy shows the vast majority of women do not regret their abortions. There are those who regret adoption or even having kids, but we would never consider banning adoption or having kids on that basis. lol citing a google search, you're funny. There's an article about one woman who CLAIMS she can remember and she has a specific rare condition. Hardly your claim that people all over can remember, lol.
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  4170. ​ Wizard Waluigi  ROFL "statistical facts" - when you didn't list a single statistic. And your "history" was laughably wrong. I love that you admit you see rape victims as an "excuse." Way to show your true feelings towards rape victims. I know people like you love to dismiss rape, but its honestly pretty disgusting to see you so openly gleeful about it (and cry that I'm somehow I'm the one "defaming" your character lol) Hate to tell you, but the majority of bans DO NOT HAVE RAPE EXCEPTIONS. You do remember that shortly after the SC court ruling, a pregnant 10 year old rape victim from Ohio had to travel to Indiana for an abortion? One rape victim was so inconvinient to your side that right wing media claimed she didn't even exist yet the doctor who did her abortion was threatened by right wing politicans, and when the perpetrator was caught the narrative had to shift to her abortion being called "not an abortion." That's how delusional your side is willing to be. "Even the most RIGHT LEANING POLITICIANS SAY THAT RAPE pregnancies should be allowed to be aborted." No they don't. And like I pointed out above, please explain why the states with bans DON'T HAVE THE RAPE/INCEST EXCEPTIONS? "or medical reasons." Once again your ignorance is showing. Women have been forced to risk sepsis and other complications because doctors are afraid of potential legal ramifications. In Missouri, a PRO LIFE woman named Mylissa Farmer was denied an emergency abortion at 17 weeks due to loss of amniotic fluid, meaning she was risking sepsis, loss of the uterus and even death. She contacted her republican state senator, Bill White, who just told her to go to an anti abortion center and never contacted her again. In Texas, a woman named Amanda Zurawski went through similar compications but wasn't "sick enough" for doctors to help her and she had to wait until SEPSIS developed before the could take out the doomed fetus. That's the bullcrap reality going on, hun. Its only a matter of time before women die because of these laws. Not that people like you care, of course. Get a clue before blabbing. Hunny, birth control failure is the most common reason for abortion. I already pointed out to you that abortion CANNOT be a contraceptive because contraception means preventing conception, LMAO. Thanks for embarassing yourself even further, so much for your supposed biology background! Tell your imaginary friend I said hi. Anyways, no one can force an abortion, but under the laws you support, literal children will be forced to give birth against their will. Where's your concern for forcing there? Once again you go for emotional manipualtion by calling balls of cells "defenseless babies", lol. Your "point" makes no sense. You're not even aware that the laws don't have the exceptions you claim they do or what these laws are doing to people. The laws you support are cruel and evil. Get a clue.
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  4171.  Wizard Waluigi  You made incel style insults and comments, then get huffy about being called out on them, lol. So maybe think about things you say before saying them, m'kay? "You still completely ignore people who are forced to birth." Um no, I think you owned yourself there lol. Many girls and women have been threatened by parents who will kick them out if they choose to have an abortion, and many men try to force women to give birth as a means of control over them. Its very common for women fleeing doemstic violence situations to try to access abortions once they are away from their abusers. I volunteer in groups that help and the number of boyfriends who tamper with birth control to try to force a pregnancy is very common. Read up on reproductive coercion sometime. LOL I'm sure you would value the guy's opinion if they were the ones who wanted the abortion and the woman didn't, right? You would side with whoever didn't want the abortion, don't even try to deny that. You know perfectly well you would save a newborn baby over a test tube with multiple frozen embryos in it. Not sure what a "sea section" is lol. Or why a c-section is even relevant on the subject? The problem with claiming an embryo will always grow is it ignored how common miscarriages and failure to implant is - up to 50% of fertilized eggs get flushed out before pregnancy is detected and look like regular late periods. Since you would consider that to be a "person" would you support mandatory inspections of all tampons/pads of mensturating women so that funerals and death certificates be mandated? The end result is the same with a condom or abortion - a hypothetical person simply doesn't exist. "Salt based acid injection" LMAO that sounds like a great band name. I love your dramatics. lol @ acid especially, your lack of medical knowledge is ever more apparent XD "your prevented abortion stories?" lol what is that and where did I say any? "If the aborted fetus comes out crying and its head melting" Dude LMAO do you just say the first ting that pops into your head? I'm seriously laughing at how dramatic youre trying to be. "To say majority of people and states do not allow rape, incest, or medical abortions is a lie" Except its not a lie, you are simply being deliberately ignorant. Currently 15 states with abortion bans have no exception for rape or incest. "because I literally am against them!" Oh how cute. That doesn't change the bans on them. Also, the fact that you support a rape exception makes an interesting point - if your concern is that you think embryos are people, why should rape matter to you? Making an excpetion for rape indicates that your issue isn't concern for the fetus but a desire to see women punished for choosing to have sex. Adoption is an alternative to parenting, not pregnancy and birth. You know what every other group that has done mass murders have done? See women as disposable vessels for breeding. Nazis outlawed abortion for German women and during the ethnic cleansing in Serbia and Rwanda rape was weaponized with the goal of impregnanting women against their will. Hnny, I knew you would try and dismiss rapes as some small percentage, your forced birthers love to try and diminish rape victims in general (and the number your side always tries to cite varies from 1% to 5% because you pull it out of your ass), but that's actually shooting yourself in the foot, not me. If you think rape pregnancies can be dismissed because they're "just one 1%" then why are you pearl clutching about late term abortion methods when they are literally 1% of abortions (supported by actual data). You just outed yourself as a hypocrite again, lol. Once again a cell clump is not a baby. And you have no basis to cliam that abortion doctors get "mental diseases" lol, that is some of the laziest anti abortion propaganda ever. Embryos do not "look" human, lol. You wouldn't be able to tell a pig embryo from a dog embryo from a human embryo. You can "believe" what you want. You do not have a right to impose your belief on anyone else. Once again, a clump of cells is not a baby. Indeed, things that don't have brains don't have opinions, and literally don't have the ability to say anything about an opinion that doesn't exist lol. You're not their voice, you are using your own voice to impose your opinions on balls of cells. Your drama is just getting old and repetetive at this point, lol. But I suspect you were lying about supporting rape exceptions in abortion bans. There is no brain function until late trimesters. See my prior point about animal and human ambryos looking identical.
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  4172. ​ Wizard Waluigi  I'm not pro forced anything. You literally dream of a world where all women and girls are forced by laws and threats to give birth against their will. Plenty of women are threatened with being left and kicked out of homes over wanting an abortion but I get the feeling you support that. The hypocrisy is all yours. And your side loves to claim women are all being forced to abort because it gives the image of women being too weak to make their own decisions. LOL "literally the abortion method used." You lazily paraphrasing does not make it the method used. LOL "all the major functions." At 12 weeks there is no brain, spinal cord, nervous system formed. All the organs are in a rough predecessor states and would not be able to function to keep the embryo alive on their own. Go back and read my point about how many fertilized eggs and up flushed out looking like a regular period. And I notice you dodged my question about mandating inspections to detect said lost eggs/people in your opinion. You're the one dodging questions here, lol. I answer all of yours. By DNA its always been human. But simply having human DNA doesn't make one a living person. And even if it didn, no actual living person would have the right to use someone else's body for their benefit. C'mon now, genocide is defined as "the deliberate killing of people belonging to a speficic racial, cultural or political group. Are embryos any of those three things? Nope. Is anyone systematically killing all fetuses? Nope. Does anyone want to wipe out all fetuses? Nope. "There is only mass pregnancy because they are savages. If they wanted to kill them they would have done it." lol what does this even mean? "Natural" does not mean "good", kiddo. Cancer is natural. Blindness is natural. Forced birth leaves people scarred. And given how high maternal death rates are in the U.S., yes, pregnancy will be a death sentence for many. Well unfortunately humans didn't evolve the way seahorses did to share pregnancy and birth between the sexes. Take it up with biology if you feel that's unequal. In human pregnancies, men do not face an equal share of risks to their health or life and therefore do not have the equality of experience to have a veto over a pregnancy. Also, in your opinion should a man be able to decide the woman should have an abortion even if she doesn't want to? Or does it only go one way? I always knew you would try and argue some statistic about rape to try and argue against abortion, your side always does lol. So that's why we counter with the point about late term pregnancies being 1% yet your side being utterly obsessed with them. Its more hypocrisy from your side. You do realize you openly posted misogynistic insults for all to see, right? Maybe you went back and deleted/edited them when I called you out on them but everyone knows when a reply has been edited, lol. And if it doesn't matter to you what I call you why keep whining about it, lol? The paranoid reality is all yours, hunny. Birth is a brutal process, its actually 14x more likely to kill a person than an abortion. An abortion won't cause a woman to rip from the her vagina to anus (real and sadly common injury). I'm sorry to disappoint you but lobotomies have nothing to do with gynecology, lol. And once again you desperately resort to hysterics about the abortion process using emotional lanaguage and drama. lol "salt based substance", the word is saline. Get that much right if you claim to work in a medical field.
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  4173. ​ Wizard Waluigi  I'm sure you went back and edited that once I pointed it out, lol. I already pointed out diseases are natural too, being natural doesn't make something good. C sections are unnatural too, the natural thing would be to let the woman and fetus die, let's see you rail against that? LMAO so illegal abortions mean no forced abortions, just forced legal births. You must be dizzy going in such circles. You are making up these stories, no doctor would ever claim to diagnose autism in utero as that is not detectable from any test. But since we're sharing stories, my grandmother had an illegal abortion, she needed to since her last pregnancy had almost killed her and she knew this pregnancy would end her if it went full term. And she's still alive today at 96 because of it. My own mother had an abortion with her second pregancy after an infection developed which could have easily killer her. She's also alive today and went on to have my younger brother. Would you be happier had she done the natural thing and died instead? Growing up I lived for a few years in a country where abortion is illegal in ALL cases - and guess what, suicide is one of the leading causes of death for pregnant women there. LOL you can't "insult" something by calling it what it is. The right on the other hand, insults women by reducing them to walking incubators. You do realize you're simply spewing the old hypocrisy by crying about insults when you led with vicious misogynistic ones, right? And you expose yourself as ignorant/uneducated when you present weak arguments and flat out lies. You (again) skipped over the part where I said its always human by DNA but that doesn't equal personhood. Go back and read. And you continue to fail to grap the hypocrisy of your side trying to dismiss rape victims by saying "jUsT 1%" when you scream about late term abortions in the same breath. Plenty of animal testing still happens, sorry to tell you. And you do know vets terminate animal pregnancies all the time, right? No one is protesting those, which makes your point moot. LOL "brutal for embryos" - how is something brutal for a literal cell blob that can think or feel nothing? LOL please quote where I said third trimester abortions are "unfavoriable." You're just making stuff up now. I haven't ignored that point. You have ignored my answer about DNA =/= personhood. And condom survivors exist, as I pointed out.
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  4175. ​ Wizard Waluigi  You find it "impossible to have a conversation" but still rant for several paragraphs? lol kay. If you want to run away from the convo just do that. And what 'small things' am I supposed to believe in? If you say something with a glaring error in it reasonable people will question it. You claimed a doctor claimed a fetus would likely be autistic, but that is not credible because the exact cause of autism is not known and it cannot be diagnosed in utero. Therefore that's either made up OR you claimed the wrong medical condition. And I said "abortion survivors" exist the way condom survivors exist. LOL no I called you out for trying to dismiss rape pregnancies while clutching your pearls about late term pregnancies. Once again cell clumps aren't babies. Yes, I would have just been cells if my mother aborted me. I wouldn't know the difference any more than if she had married someone other than my dad or become a nun. Same result, I just wouldn't exist. Lol I have no idea why you people think that's a good argument or why you're such special snowflakes that the world would have been altered by you not existing. Yes there's a risk in pregnancy, hence why no one should be forced into it against their will. My point is almost half of all zygotes naturally fail to grow and get flushed out in miscarriages. Also did you ever make up your mind about whether inspections need to be mandated to detect those? And that cell clumps aren't babies. You do know that Hitler (and Stalin, for that matter) OUTLAWED abortion when they took power? See, they felt their version of morality was superior and should be imposed on people against their will. Sound familiar? Also I don't think you know what "braindead" means - braindead means a person is dead and on life support machines. No brain activity, no chance for recovery. That's not the same as a coma. And I recall you tried to claim you worked in the medical field? I find it interesting you dismiss the idea of shooting a woman and hyperfocus on an embryo. And I've already addressed third trimester - those are not done for shits and giggles. I've also pointed out the hypocrisy of your side trying to dismiss rape pregnancies for being "1%" while screaming your lungs out about third trimester abortions which are actually 1% of all abortions, I think you need to reread the previous comments since you're clearly running out of ideas, lol. Abortions don't happen one day before birth, I don't know why your side clings to that fantasy so hard, lol. "over 95% of abortions are because not wanting to deal with consequences." Do you think you sound like you value life when you refer to children as "consequences"? Children shouldn't be brought into the world as punishments. LOL you keep ignoring my answer, I can only assume my answer rattles you. So here it is again, let's see you ignore it and ask again in the next rambling: Its always been human by DNA. But having human DNA does not make cells a person. Simple. Fetus is the correct term up until birth. By arguing "babies" you are whining about semantics, not science.
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  6402.  @willlauzon3744  Riiight, violently storming into a capitol with zip ties trying to overturn a democratic election while beating police officers and looking to hang your own VP isn't a threat to democracy /s Sorry hon, google shows that trump left office with the lowest presidential approval rating ever. And lol if you think the rapist kavanugh's hearing was "stormed" into, that's cute and lol "dodged" as if anything happened - but I'll play with your red herring, around the same time a Democratic congresswoman had a gunman stalk her outside her home the same week as the Kavanaugh guy, but to a FRACTION of the media coverage, and crickets on faux news (and I'm sure zero outrage from you). Republicans stood outside Brian Kemp's governor's mansion armed with rifles when he wouldn't overturn the election. Remember Roy Moore? One of his victims had her house burnt down. There's an election worker shortage because trump q anon nuts flood every single one with death threats. Gabriel Sterling, a REPUBLICAN elections official from Georgia, needs to walk around with 24/7 security. Specifically, after he publicly addressed the violence involving everyone even tangentially related to the election process (a big no no in the right wing cult). Trump cultists left a noose at his home and started harassing his MOM, who has 0 involvement in ANYTHING. Q-anon sent so many death threats to a butterfly sanctuary it had to shut down. Rusty Bowers, again, a Republican elected official, had his cancer stricken daughter stalked and harassed by his fellow republicans . Her last months alive were ruined by your fellow republicans. Proud of that? And Portland was never burned down, sorry to ruin your little fanatasy lol.
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  10131. Actually its not. That breast cancer myth has been debunked REPEATEDLY by several studies and organizations. In February 2003, the US National Cancer Institute held a workshop of more than 100 of the world’s leading experts who study pregnancy and breast cancer risk. The experts reviewed human and animal studies that looked at the link between pregnancy and breast cancer risk, including studies of induced and spontaneous abortions. Some of their findings were: -Breast cancer risk is increased for a short time after a full-term pregnancy (that is, a pregnancy that results in the birth of a living child). -Induced abortion is not linked to an increase in breast cancer risk. -Spontaneous abortion is not linked to an increase in breast cancer risk. The level of scientific evidence for these findings was considered to be “well established” (the highest level). The American College OBGYN Committee on Gynecologic Practice reviewed the available evidence in 2003 and again in 2009. The Committe published its most recent findings in June 2009. At that time, the Committee said, “Early studies of the relationship between prior induced abortion and breast cancer risk were methodologically flawed. More rigorous recent studies demonstrate no causal relationship between induced abortion and a subsequent increase in breast cancer risk.” The following Medical Groups reject the abortion to breast cancer hypothesis: World Health Organization, the U.S. National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. Suicide/depression risks are a myth too. In 1987, President Reagan asked Surgeon General C. Everett Koop to study the topic of alleged “post-abortion syndrome.” Despite powerful political pressure to identify such a syndrome, and his own personal anti-choice beliefs, Dr. Koop concluded that “the data do not support the premise that abortion does or does not cause or contribute to psychological problems.” A 1992 American Psychological Association (APA) review found that severe negative psychological reactions to abortion are rare and that the vast majority of women experience a mixture of emotions after an abortion, with positive feelings predominating. The findings were reaffirmed in 2008 after a 2-year review of the “best scientific evidence published,” APA’s Task Force on Mental Health and Abortion found that women who choose abortion are at no greater risk for mental-health problems.
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  10134. Logos XYZ Yes, you can say one thing, but indicate another. You ignore evidence, post biased sources and don't seem to proofread them. Actions > words. "And how are you so sure, when there is research that shows otherwise?" To quote one of your own sources: "While a small batch of studies may suggest a possible connection, an OVERWHELMING amount of research indicates otherwise." in other words, studies heavily favor there being no link at all. Why do you ignore the majority of research? It is valid to criticize a known biased and unscientific website, as well as the piece of propaganda Gill put out. Gill is not "pro choice" btw. They prop her up as being such, but its painfully obvious she isn't. She has ties with the extreme anti-abortion group Live Action. But even if she was, it is irrelevant in the face of the claims made by the documentary, which gives more weight to assertions by Christian anti-abortion activists while ignoring overwhelming evidence from the medical profession that there is no reliable link between abortion and breast cancer. As in 28 anti abortion "experts" vs two medical professionals who state its safety. Her "documentary" relies almost exclusively on interviews with renowned anti-abortion “experts” who lack credentials and whose work has been discredited (their backgrounds as anti abortion activists are not mentioned, btw), and frames it in the context of a conspiracy cover up, that the world’s leading health organizations like the National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, and the World Health Organization, are all in on some massive conspiracy. This is basically like an anti-vaccine propaganda piece. https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/the-christian-lobby-is-now-trying-to-convince-women-that-abortion-causes-breast-cancer-20161018-gs535e.html Seriously...Marripedia? That's a christian website. Its own "About" page says its "social science." Your googling is again very obvious. Most of the cited "studies" have been exposed for flaws and lacking objectivity. No actual scientific website or major health organization agrees with the findings. Much more research has discredited any link. That's scientific. Why do you ignore it?
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  10175. ​ @thevortex6754  I love how the right obsesses over Hunter Biden while turning a willful blind eye and deaf ear to the foreign dealings of trump's offspring. But then again hypocrisy has always been the bread and butter of the right. Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes. I can only imagine how the right would use that kind of incident against a democrat if the tables were turned. Trump steered most of his tax cut to the wealthiest people and corporations and then bragged to rich friends at his country club, “You all just got a lot richer.” Meanwhile, he has concealed his own tax returns, which, when leaked, revealed that he paid almost no taxes, claiming huge losses to the IRS, while at the same time, to get new loans, telling banks that he was making big money. Trump promised to "drain the DC swamp." But he gave top administration jobs to people — including Scott Pruitt, Ryan Zinke, Tom Price, Diane Auer Jones, Mike Pompeo, and many others — who have engineered the administration’s wholesale steering of policy and regulations to help big bad-behaving corporations, from polluting, climate change-denying oil companies to predatory for-profit colleges. These individuals, before or after working for Trump, often took big paying jobs in those same industries, and some, while in government, have grabbed a wide range of personal perks to enrich themselves and advance their political interests. Trump mingled with some of Washington’s worst corporate lobbyist swamp creatures, like Bush crony C. Boyden Gray, who have bankrolled Trump’s efforts. Meanwhile, six former Trump campaign and White House aides — Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, and others — have been criminally convicted by federal prosecutors on charges arising out of the Russia investigation, ranging from lobbying abuses to obstruction of justice; a seventh, Steve Bannon, was recently charged in a scheme to defraud Trump supporters; and another Trump crony and Republican National Committee official pled guilty on foreign influence-peddling charges. Any sane person would find the fact that trump cozied up to dictators while distancing from our longtime democratic allies alarming. He has indeed shown devotion to Russian dictator Vladimir Putin, repeatedly praising him, publicly endorsing his denials of election interference, aggressively hiding the contents of their conversations, and failing to ask him about reports from U.S. intelligence that Russia has offered bounties to kill U.S. troops in Afghanistan or about the poisonings, beatings, and killings of Putin critics. Also, in 2017, Trump delayed for months, beyond the legal deadline, implementing a bipartisan bill, passed by overwhelming, veto-proof margins in both houses of Congress, that imposed new sanctions on Russia in the wake of its tampering with the 2016 election. What is the hold that Putin has on Trump? That should concern any American. He’s engaged in repeated obstruction of justice and of Congress in the Russia, Ukraine, and other matters. He pressured FBI director James Comey to drop an investigation of former national security advisor Michael Flynn, who had lied to the FBI, and fired Comey after the investigation went forward anyway. He told White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Russia prosecutor Robert Mueller. He fired whistleblowers who have testified to Congress and dismissed five inspectors general who were looking into administration misconduct. While obstructing and corrupting justice, Trump has taken the parallel step of corrupting and undermining the truth, telling lie after lie on matters big (election fraud) and small (whether he knew he used a Sharpie to alter a hurricane map) and despicably branding the news media “the enemy of the people.” Demented donald should never have been born. The world would be much better off and the neonazis would need to await a different messiah.
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  10176.  @thevortex6754  Honestly, I feel sorry for you just reading all this paranoia and conspiracy drivel that has you so scared. I don't know if you even care about hearing facts, but I'll try. His lot? You mean the democratically elected representatives? No one is taking away the right to bear arms. "Right of freedom" - what does that even mean? Free speech? Assembly? Just "right of freedom" isn't a thing, be more specific if you want to be taken seriously. How are we losing the pursuit of happiness exactly? Were you also complaining when the repubs had almost every conservative they could find in a seat with power? Don't lie. Republicans still have a lot of seats in congress and the house, and not much they have done is worth defending, if you ask me, Democrats are cleaning up republican messes as usual. Who is starting a world war here? There is plenty of middle ground between kissing Putin's ass and "WWIII." I know facts aren't your cup of tea, but we know Russia actively tries to interference in elections through disinformation campaigns. You say russia and china are our number one enemies, but turn a blind eye to Russian meddling? Explain the hypocrisy there? And I bet you have no issue buying made in china cheap crap. Americans like cheap products (yay capitalism), and its republicans who love to line corporate pockets. Plenty of factory workers lost their jobs even after trump made empty promises to them. I doubt you even know what socialism is. Its sad that you're so entrenched in hateful beliefs that you honestly think democrats trying to make healthcare affordable and living wages standard = communism. If you wanted to be concerned about stripping constitutional liberties, how about looking at republican voter restrictions? Though I can guess your incoming rant about that. Oh, and if you hate socialism, please don't forget to protest your local public library, public roads, fire department and public schools. Plenty of people who have worked their absolute asses off in the heat and cold for days on end just to get fired and need public assistance they themselves contributed to, just to have people like you call them dumbass druggies and worse, just because demonizing is easier. Fine, keep your money and stay off public roads and services that taxpayer money funds. Its only fair. You guys are so far right that everything must be your way, that if it’s different in the slightest, y’all through a shit fit, like you are now. LOL if you think trump "worked his ass off." In reality, he grew up rich and spoiled and his daddy gave him millions to get started. Several of his companies have gone into bankruptcy. He has ripped off several small business owners and never paid for services. Why do you worship an elitist who craps in a gold plated toilet? Do you see him hanging out with hardworking blue collar folk at Mar a Lago? Hell his own voter base couldn't afford to stay at the Trump Hotel in DC. "Stalin’s speeches, Ho Chi Mins speeches, Kim Jung Il" Okay you're just being hilariously clueless at this point. Please sum up the "similarities" in the speeches. Who is telling you to share your clothes? So you believe china helped trump win? Biden traveled plenty, why lie so blatantly? Trump spent four years ruining his own reputation (as if that was really even possible), why would traveling change that? LOL body movement? What is that, his stupid dance? Why are you upset people sat in cars? Trump lost, honey. Even your stupid taxpayer-money-wasting audits have proven it time and time again (I love that in his Arizona audit he LOST even harder XD) Ah yes, the big bad media. Never mind that its a straight up actual communist move to demonize and censor the press. All because they insulted your orange messiah. What a joke, hun. I don't know what BS website you're listening to, no European country liked trump. They openly laughed at him at the UN! He buddied up to the North Korean dictator, lol. You righties brains would have exploded if Biden said he and Kim Jon Un wrote "love letters" to each other. Afghanistan is still trump's plan, dear. Never mind that it got revealed he wanted an even earlier withdrawal but got shut down. If trump was still in office it would have gone down no differently (but more likely worse due to the ealier deadline), the only difference is his worshippers like you would be ignoring what happened to the Afghans and crediting him for ending the war. "Trump never came close to that level of stupidity and betrayal." You're right. He far surpassed that level of stupidity and betrayal, more than any other president before. I take it you didn't see how many veterans blame trump for what happened. Hell, even on your precious fox news one of the deranged hosts Stinchfield started screaming at a VETERAN who said: “We follow this closely from multiple administrations, and we know that Trump administration’s efforts here were fairly weak, that they were trying to limit the number of people that would get out and so there were coordination problems.” Stinchfield started screaming "CUT HIM OFF CUT HIM OFF!" Yeah, real paragon of sanity there bud. Once again, did you bitch and moan when trump practically our military equipment in Syria to the russians? Its funny you pretend to have an issue with "stalin" tactics only when you think they're directed at your crowd. Anyways, Scheller isn't even in military prison anymore, and he was't put in federal prison by the government, he was put in by the MILITARY because he broke several military policies (Article 88: contempt toward officials; Article 90: willfully disobeying a superior commissioned officer; Article 92: failure to obey lawful general orders; and Article 133: conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman, according to a Marine Corps spokesperson.) So I guess you're calling the US military socialist,   lol."but he never had anyone arrested for it or killed" Lol, do you really set the bar so low for your elitist messiah? "unlike the chicken shits behind the oak tables in power just did to that marine." Military brass are chicken shits now? LOL "statistics from the military" I love that you don't even cite a specific poll. Anyways, in reality, Trump’s popularity slipped in the 2020 Military Times poll, more troops said they’d vote for Biden. In the 2020 results, nearly half of respondents (49.9 percent) had an unfavorable view of the president, compared to about 38 percent who had a favorable view. Might have to do with your orange messiah knowing about the reports of Russian bounties on US troops and doing nothing about it.  "even Hitler understood that it was bad." Gee, you righties don't need much to admit to admiring Hitler, now do you? then again trump loved using his divisive and demonizing tactics, especially in his speeches. You're incorrect that nothing was found during impeachments. trump's republican cronies defended the orange messiah and stonewalled every investigation, facts be damned. And what did they get for it? An attack by violent insurrectionists that left when shaking in their own boots from their own voting base monsters they created. Biden has done nothing to be impeached, sorry to ruin your delusion (again). "Whenever you do something wrong, you try to cover it up, then later it’s discovered about what you’ve just done, and then you get punished for it." Why yes! Which is why trump has been the only president impeached twice, and why he lost the election. Voters saw through his shit and voted against him. Hence, his punishment was being one one term shitty president. I love that "far right" is hitler admiration and paranoid delusions, and "far left" is affordable healthcare and living wages. I can only hope my sanity outweighs your lack thereof.
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  11559. You're the one who doesn't have a "fucking clue", actually, but something tells me you don't give much importance to facts if they inconvenience your narrow worldview. "Countless verifiable"- lol, and your list or that is where exactly? In an illegal procedure, sure, anything goes, but a proper surgery uses an injection administered to the fetus to stop the heartbeat. Your claims of scalpel use is an attempt to dramatize and elicit and emotional response rather than a rational one. "not talking about necessary abortions due to ectopic pregnancies" Your ignorance is showing again. Ectopic pregnancies do not reach the third trimester. "But it’s fairly hysterical" - You do indeed sound fairly hysterical. I simply point out why you're wrong and you go on an emotional long winded diatribe. "I’m “trying to make these women feel bad” " - Your exact words were: "Get a third trimester abortion ladies, and tell me you feel good about it." In other words you are accusing women who have had third trimester abortions, which are done for serious medical reasons, of having simply had them done with no fuss. Deny all you want, but that's essentially what you were implying. "honest with ourselves about the associated science " - and what made up science are you referring to exactly? "hipocratic" - I take it you meant "Hippocratic"? Unless you have examples of third trimester abortions being done for trivial reasons, YOU should shut the fuck up and educate yourself before speaking again.
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  11560. You should actually study the Hippocratic Oath before yammering on about it. Just some helpful advice ;) So, because a scalpel might be used in an illegal abortion somewhere, that justifies passing a blanket ban that will do far more harm than good? By that logic, we need to outlaw a whole lot of things just because some unqualified person might attempt it. "considering there are people who’ve convinced themselves that “it’s not a baby until it takes a breath” Well that would include pretty much the entire Jewish population, lol, because that's what the Torah teaches. That life begins at the first breath. Also, that line is not a medical standard, nor is "baby" a medical term. "I never said ectopic pregnancies reach the third trimester, I was using it as an example of perfectly ethical abortive procedures" You started the conversation about third trimester abortions, then brought up ectopic pregnancies. Just admit you goofed. If a woman needs an abortion, its perfectly ethical. Its not for you to judge, its between a woman and her doctor. "with a developed central nervous system, pain receptors, and functioning cognitive faculties" Once again your argument rests on the fallacy that any third trimester fetus that is abortion is perfectly developed. Yet the fact remains that third trimester abortions are done for serious health reasons... "Am I not allowed to be morally concerned just because I don’t have ovaries?" Such a weak attempt to put words in my mouth its almost funny. Drop the persecution complex. You can be "morally concerned" all you want, what you don't have the right to do is impose those "concerns" on women.
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  11632. lol, zoombas? The exercise class? Or did you mean Roombas, the automatic vacuum cleaners? You know those aren't biological organisms right? Actually viruses are considered to be in a gray area between living and nonliving, its a debated idea. Sperm are as alive as any other body cell, and can live outside the human doby ebven if for a short while. Tumors can grow and develop too. Are they alive? Wrong. The brain is nowhere near developed or even formed at six weeks. While some electrical impulses have been noted as early as 10 weeks' gestation, these cannot be interpreted as or compared with actual brain waves. Genuine brain waves do not occur until the third trimester. There is no nervous system or complex neurotransmitted hormones (needed for brain impulses to be present). Even as late as 12 weeks, the brain and nervous system are still in a very early stage of development, nowhere near complete. The beginnings of the brain stem, which includes a rudimentary thalamus and spinal cord, is only just being formed. Most brain cells are not developed. Without a cerebral cortex (gray matter covering the brain), impulses cannot be received or perceived. The cerebellum attains its final configuration in the seventh month and that mylenization (or covering) of the spinal cord and the brain begins only around the 20th week of pregnancy. "Do you believe in souls?" Why does that matter? Plenty of religious people support abortion rights. In fact, you'll find many christian churches take a pro choice position (Unitarian Universalist Church, The United Church of Christ, the Presbyterian Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church and the United Methodist Church). And of course abortion is hardly controversial in Judaism. Nowhere in the bible is abortion banned. In fact, the bible says that if a man suspects his wife is pregnant by someone else, he can take her to the priest and force her to drink a concoction that will make her miscarry. But I think in general that if you worship a god who on several occasions commanded the slaughter of children, and at one point drowned all the children and pregnant women in the world, you should probably shut up about abortion.
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