Comments by "18rabbit" (@18_rabbit) on "The Ezra Klein Show" channel.

@jackjmaheriii no a sung 'hail mary' would not be 'a grace'. Wth are u talking about? I was raised catholic, head altar server, awards etc. Your faux-xtianity is repulsive!
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sorry but if u think age is a bigger problem than his ideas and goals, then u dn't understand humans or risk.
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mmm, 'fine', no. He showed over time a slowing and ended up not a communicative president generally and that just doesn't work in heady time like the past couple years that are presenting mor stuff and events than almost the early 1930's! We def needed someone else as the Dem, there is no question about that! And i was like you, i initially thought it was wrong to judge or discriminate against him so seemingly quickly , but time was way short and the risks way way high!
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WOW, lucinda, u nailed it! You've got the gist so so so well, imho, as a fellow american! Your writing is so cogent, thank u for sharing your sense and observation with us all.
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would need some clarification on your point? Overall we dont really know what the gulf states motivations are, and imho, some of them, and some of Israel's neighbors have always been non-receptive to Palestinian migrants largely orginally bcuz of political ideas and beliefs that Israel was not legitimately in posession of the land of Israel. As long as that silent stance is held, the Arab world as a whole will remain dysfunctional, i guarantee it. I grew up with several gulf states arabs & nonarabs from gulf states, in the U.S. And my closest friends in life have been jewish ppl in the U.S., liberal folks like i am.
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@susanhemmingsen9168 thank u! absolutely correct. The tax system is insane in the US and in some states like mine, Washington state, supposedly progressive, but with a severely regressive tax system (no income tax, and massive taxes on energy now for the first time, suddenly, mangling those who can afford it least during recent 5-8 yrs of inflation, is actually the time frame of inflation in many spots in the U.S. Compared to europe, the US looks severely mismanaged or undermanaged, with ridiculously primitive ideas about social welfare. I realize it's very complex, to say the least, partly bcuz the vast majority of society is very undereducated. So it'll be a long road, but we better get moving.
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big nyet on that one. This situation has nothing even closely simlar as precedent. Nothing, ever.! So things are going to change a lot, no matter what anyone wants. As usual on this planet, an ultra conservative traditionalist reactionary gvt was so distracted & had distracted non-reactionary ppl so much, that this tragedy happened as bas as it did, ie as extensively as it did in Israel, and then the apparent hyper-reaction against Hamas/gaza. Politics matters, and those who support ultra-conservatives are damaging societies globally, and it's a mortal threat to all of us, both in 'wealthy nations' and in poor ones.
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not just would like to see its downfall but never worked against the militant violence that has been running hard since the 1960's till now! I'm a dove, but even I know Israeli history which is the most fascinating and easy to study history of all modern places anywhere! If Israel needs, then a coalition of the willing, international forces, will help secure the entire situation, and that may mean Hezbollah will be quashed, Hamas also. There is no alternative. This is 25 years in the making and time is up. I personally will not stand to see yet more ppl including children suffering in agony. It's a stone cold fact that conservatives globally have pushed militant intolerant attitudes and have stoked fear and anger all over this planet. When the succesful nations, like Israel, cannot react appropriately, then we know things are way too close to FUBAR. Do not let it happen. We need total information release and transparency or there really WILL be a problem for Israel going forward visavis the USA, i promise that. (and i'm extraordinarily pro-Israel, to be clear, but things have changed in the past two years)
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@davidtrindle6473 many ppl in the region agree on most facts. There have been negotiations that came seemingly extremely close to a deal that was good for the Palestinians, the one in 2000. They rejected it finally bcuz imho, as a person who has studied conflict mitigation, the Pal. leaders are individuals who truly think in bad faith terms, and they actually have a blood-libel in their inner ethics, against Jewish ppl. And i'm an atheist myself, who supports Israel in its until-recent-years reasonable way of dealing w/ terrorists. It may take an international coalition to finally fix this situation. Very dark days that i did not see coming exactly, but it wasn't too hard to see coming really, after Ru invaded Ukr two yrs ago.
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the WHOLE point is that Israel wants no chance of a future Hamas to have operations there, or anywhere near Israel, but especially not there. Details of who is likely where, is top secret of course.
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this gazan situation vs those historical mega events, is not even vaguely in the same universe, of course. But i get the gist perhaps.
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@chazzman7732 would love to hear more!
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@jeffmeyer9319 no it is NOT. It's both entirely unmanaged economics/capital-ism, but it's actually mostly a lack of growth, which happened due to unmanaged society and government, ie gvt didn't work with private industry to figure out how to steer the jobs market over the past 40 years. This is so obvious and anyone who is over 45 y.o. and can't see it is unable to think. This country is severely mismanaged BCUZ of conservatives who have bullied their way with b.s. propaganda that defies economic-logic: they said we needed to spend less, when in fact we did not need to. Anyone who's taken the basic 4-6 courses of actual econ classes at the uni level, at agood school, knows this. It is SO basic. Conservatives have severely misguided the masses who know nothing, and have squandered the very fine credit rating of the U.S. gvt. Now we're actually down a couple notches on the credit rating bcuz of these idjits/ideologues whose concepts go against the entirely of economic understanding, literature, and finance understanding and literature and practice. The GOP is now a cult, for real. Not like a cult, it really IS one. My fellow americans, these are the final months or years of warnings like this. You will likely lose everything you hold dear if u go along with these new-right conservatives.
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thank u for your thoughts. I am not personally linked to any palestinians (and not to any arabs either, even though i grew up with various arabs in my own house here in the U.S. I've always had a good feeling about the arabs i've met and known, and about the jewish ppl i've met and known and my closest friends ever have been american jews, one family) , but have always been a close student of Israeli politics and the history of the region. I'm just over 50 y.o. so i've seen the key moments, and i studied in D.C. with some of the best international politics ppl on the planet, long ago. This situation is nearly Fubar, ie ultra bad. It requires good and kind minds who are not blinded by anger. Professional leaders and military officers are wrong when they cannot remove either actual anger, ie bitter deep anger, or even the appearance, the PR public image of things like what we've heard out of the Israeli cabinet, and possibly some military officers. Once the language changes like that, then u know that an international emergency military coalition would/will be needed IF not having palestinian little girls with their femurs open to air while the Doctor palpates the bone to figure out the damage and fix the wound, while she is semi-conscious, on the floor. I've seen a lot of horror and nothing touches that, except for Syrian pain in '16, which was THE signal that 'conservative' brutality was upon us in the world. This israeli and palestinian situation is entirely political as a cause. That is clear. I'm someone who DOES trust the vast majority of the Israeli military and probably most of the gvt apparatus that is how the admin gets things done. But in truth, Biden is not saying enough, as usual, so an impression of impunity is mounting and that is unacceptable and even ppl like me who very pro-Israel in general terms, will ultimately possibly boycott Israel in any future that does not remedy this situation going forward. This past two months has changed Israeli and modern social jewish history, so far, though we shall see what the actual damages are in Gaza later of course, and what Israel could have done or not done. Facts are not clear yet at all, but they are not looking right.
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@coreyshapiro2440 not at THIS moment, no. That would literally invite geopolitical instability GLOBALLY. So, yeah, big NOPE on that one.
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while entirely 'logical', it's pretty unlikely, as seen throughout history, ppl like the Israelis don't really need to do things like that. They are a very capable and sophisticated ppl, and what almost always happens w/ ppl like that, are they get too comfortable/complacent and most importantly DISTRACTED by divisive internal politics for the first time EVER in Israel to this extreme extent this past 18 months. THAt is likely why this happened. For those of us who understand security, it's a constant thing that without all the elements, collapses as a system entirely. Israel's intelligence security service warned the gvt that the politics were starting to jeapordize Israel's security generally including being an invitation to aggression by enemies
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precisely! Jon and then Colbert saved our souls and minds in those early dark years of around '05ish iirc onward, even '04? Many of us knew shiete was possibly on the way and then during Obama the neo-reactionaries started sounding off & apparently successfully getting organized. We have no choice now but to oppose it with all our energy, namely if DJT win's this election, in which case i predict a need for some historic unprecedented peaceful civil disobedience which is the only tool free ppl have when the courts don't stop a tramping on core and inalienable rights, ie rights are self-evident.
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for those of who know the predecessor ppl from 20 and 30 yrs ago, which are the why and how the palestinian social-'thing' has become this dysfunctinoal horror show, a bit NO to you on that! I'm a liberal american who entirely disagrees with these ridiculous claims of apartheid. It's utter nonsense to anyone familiar w/ life in Israel and the relations between the territories and Israel. Individual palestinians who were part of the how/why the leadership rejected the solid deal around year 2000, are the extremists who made Hamas gain power over time, ie ppl who pretend they are ppl of good faith and hearts, but in fact their ethics are primal and they have a blood libel against all jews. And most jews have the exact opposite stance toward palestinians. This is BIG sociology, anthropology happening here, and the truth is on the side of citizens of Israel.
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i'm 54ish y.o. man and always been what i call a progressive as well, though the meaning today does appear different, btw, though maybe not meaningfully. I too feel more alone, partly bcuz some of the social networks (not online) are different now it seems, they're more corporate or somesuch, and they might be more ideological. The 1980's and '90's saw less ideology until the GOP around '93 rapidly introduced reactionary attitudes inside of Congress: i know bcuz i spend many hours there taking notes, and lived in D.C. for several years. Imho, progressives and liberals generally are not dead yet, and the odds still strongly favor the entire defeat of america's new-right, and it may take time. And it will take quite a few lawsuits, as well as possibly some mega sit-ins in massive numbers, possibly very disruptive to commerce, IF someone like DJT, Speaker Johnson, or the Tom Cotton's, Abbot's, DeathSantances (desantis) gets in the WH and tries to dismantle or neuter gvt agencies so quickly that the independent oversight watchdog offices can' t keep up with it. If that happens, those who care will need to sit-in in D.C. and elsewhere in hundreds of K's of numbers. There is no alternative when what this is, clear-cut fascism, is attemping to remove the most personal independent rights we hold dear. I'm perfectly willing to sacrifice my life, if necessary, to keep this pathetic atavisitc evil out of the first country in history to achieve 250 yrs of uninterrupted governance /transfers-of-power, in a relatively multi-dimensional culture (relative to other early democracies like France and U.K.)
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@danielch6662 partly true, but not relevant how many Jews exist or want to move to Israel. Israel may very well grow in time (with non jewish immigrants who want to be actually part of a modern very successful innovative humane & multicultural society w/ a clear separation of religion & state. Otherwise, u can kiss it goodbye for sure) , if it can get a handle on this past 15 years increasingly horrifying problem.
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thank u for solution ideas. Very good stuff! Let's see if the arab world, who has serious financial and now they have know-how abilities as well, steps up the plate for the first time ever, for the Gazans.
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@bluedreams517 yes, but unlike Rwanda, South Afrika, and even the Balkans, the militant groups since the 1960's have become increasingly 'blood-libel' oriented, and now with the new rise globally of barbarism, there won't likely be much reintegration. They will be imprisoned, all roughly 20-40K men. I've studied conflict resolution, and massive amount of internatinoal politics/affairs and a history, formally and informally, including at one of the most reknown programs on the planet, that ppl flock to from all over the world, from Gaza itself even. This situation is so close to FUBAR, and has so many geopolitical possible knock-on effects, that if the leaders and military leaders of IDF, and the US president, and a few other ppl on earth are not careful, then we're in trouble. This is a very dicey situation unlike ANY other since 1945. So, speculating is impossible of course, but the humane treatment of Gazans from right now is critical and without it, the centrist and liberal americans like myself will for first time ever, start to really oppose Israel, and even the rightwing will as well. That would not be good for anyone on earth, imho. But we shall see.
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while the grievances are real, it's not actually how strategists think; so only piss-poor actual leaders use grievance as a criteria of any real size when there's an actual ongoing attack/threat, which is what Israel has been up against for a long time now actually, by Hamas. So we need to realize that Israel, at least when normally managed by its leaders including its military leaders (whose history going back fifty years is storied and is one of the THE best militaries IN HISTORY, btw! Point is that if any country in the situation of Israel doesn't keep its criteria to purely practical strategies, it will likely fail in thwarting its enemies. The whole point of successful fighting is to keep the feelings of anger well outside the strategy equations.
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