Comments by "Steve Parker" (@steveparker8065) on "Striking union member breaks down cost of living crisis" video.
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@lmy2366 lol I can't argue with illogical nonsense. Using inflation-adjusted figures just shows the fiscal values between the different times. It doesn't cover the cost of living, how rents have doubled in real terms, how food and clothing has increased in price independently of fiscal value. The point being that your analysis is deeply flawed. The reason I know this, is because I lived through it and I'm currently living and so experienced both conditions and so can specifically tell you that one wage could afford the same things that 2 wages now afford a household.
As for the technological advancement, the point was to show how our lives have improved regarding disease treatment, nutritional knowledge, building materials and construction tools, basically, we've moved on from being superstitious peasants who knew next to nothing about maths, physics, geography, biology and so on. With all those advancements, we still can't look after children and the elderly?
The point is obviously the differences between those two specific periods of history. The rate of technological change is irrelevant as any logical person would have realised...
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@lmy2366 Can you show where you've provided any facts? You've provided contradictions of your own posts which are all opinions. You're apparently not in favour of shifting tax burdens onto some other group yet that was your response to a loss of 9% of corporations tax which got shifted from the private sector to the public sector. So what you really mean is you're not in favour of moving the tax burden back onto those who exploit it most. Infrastructure is roads, industrial parks, Hospitals, Car Parks, Shopping centres, housing estates, the national grid, sewage and water pipes, telecoms, energy, transport etc... All of which are used so the question of which infrastructure is irrelevant, all infrastructure is paid for from GDP if you have a loss of 9% corporation tax that has to be redeemed from another group.
Common myths you perpetuate:
Corporations would have to increase prices, no they'd have to reduce excessive profiteering.
Corporation tax will cost us a loss of trade. You think Nike or Mcdonald's will stop selling in the UK if we put the corporation tax back to a reasonable amount? The same amount or less than they are paying in other countries? Cur their profits out of spite? not likely m8...
Privatisation of Energy is the reason we pay them subsidies and the reason we are now blackmailed by energy companies making bumper profits.
Who tops up low wages from corporations? The taxpayer via tax credits.
Who pays for subsidies? The taxpayer.
Who paid for the infrastructure for the national grid? The taxpayer.
Who now profits from that infrastructure and fail to maintain it? Corporations.
Who covers the annual tax gap from corporate tax losses of £40-120 billion per annum? the taxpayer.
Who pays for the energy bill support grants? The taxpayer - While shell makes bumper profits.
Why are tax credits and energy grants necessary? corporate greed...
I'm not repeatedly going around in circles, I've been patient and kind enough to offer facts to support every comment I've made. Take care, that was my last reply!
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@lmy2366 lol you aren't even able to follow an argument. National income? has increased in real terms? only 49% of household income is from wages? Can't find those stats when I search for them individually so I assume they aren't real. How were they calculated? by what formula have they produced these absurd figures? what organisation? Those questions are rhetorical as a circular debate is pointless!
You said you don't agree with shifting the tax burden onto different groups, I pointed out that the loss of 9% corporation tax would have to be picked up by the taxpayer, and then I stated that was moving the burden from the private sector to the public sector. Hence it was a retort to your own statement. It has nothing to do with whether you agree with every choice of government, I never suggested that and it's not relevant I simply pointed out the contradiction in your statement.
Your personal observations of purchased products are irrelevant that's anecdotal and we are talking about average wages for working people in general. Your taxes regardless of what you purchase, pay for all the infrastructure as does every taxpayer... Those taxes pay for schools, hospitals, roads, telecoms, energy etc that are used by corporations and their employees.
Naive? Shell made record profits in the first two quarters and paid zero windfall tax because of loopholes provided by the Tories. Yet energy prices have increased by multiple factors in the past 2 years alone.
"Corporate tax will cost us a loss of trade" never did say that. It's implied in several of your comments.
Tax credits are paid to people who are on low wages to top their money up to something they can live on, barely. That money is paid by the government and therefore comes out of our taxes, it's surprising you don't understand that basic fact.
Subsidies are paid out of our taxes to Privatised industries like the energy companies, stop taking everything personally, we are talking about corporate greed affecting the cost of living in general for working people. Hence why it is wholly relevant. It seems you're unable to discuss things in general without referencing yourself. I use stats not anecdotal stories...
"Whom isn't greedy?" we are talking about the deaths of 25,000 pensioners because of excessive energy prices and you try an inane comment like that? How is that a rebuttal of my comment? it's nonsense. What Eutopia? you think corporations paying their fair share of the tax burden is Eutopia? wow such low standards...
You seem unable to follow a debate as I've just proven. Your so-called stats don't exist on any website I can find. But are obviously a misrepresentation of reality as we have the highest cost of living and lowest wages for a decade. Those are facts that you can freely search.
I've comprehensively defeated every single point in your last reply as I've done with the others. Your misunderstanding and inability to comprehend a continuous debate over several replies make debate impossible as I've previously stated. Anyways take care and please don't reply again I've spent hours trying to explain things to you and painstakingly rebutted every point several times over.
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