Comments by "Old Scientist" (@OldScientist) on "DW News" channel.

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  7. @abody499  Antarctic ice sheet (1992-2020) annual loss was 90Gt/yr. It's total mass is 24,380,000 Gt (24380000000000000 tons), so it loses less than 0.0004% of its mass annually, which I think you could reasonably round down to zero. It contributes 0.36mm to sea-level rise per year (that's essentially nothing as well). At the current rate it will take well over ¼ million years to melt, but we are due for two more glacial periods in that time. That ice is here to stay. There's a bit of a problem with the accelerating ice loss in Antarctica idea. It's not accelerating. If you want to dig down to the actual data, that is. Just so we're clear, I'm referring to the paper entitled "Mass balance of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets from 1992 to 2020" by Otosaka et al, 2023. Can I direct you to table 2, and the text below it? If we include the APIS in "continental" (although I wouldn't) there's no pattern with a slight loss overall - neglible. EAIS, by far the larger of the continent's ice caps, both by surface and volume, hasn't lost mass. It has gained mass, but again it's neglible. So that leaves us with WAIS. It's only WAIS that's driving the mass loss from Antarctica, and you can see that from the Figure 4 graph. Figure 4 and Table 2 show there is a step up in mass loss around 2007. You might want to call that an acceleration. However there's a deceleration from 2017 or at least a noticeable reduction in the rate of annual ice mass loss for the period 2017-2020 when compared to 2012-2016. So accelerating then decelerating. The Antarctic Ice sheet is massive and it's never going to melt on the timescale of human civilisation. Coming back to what we know though about Antarctica, you doomster cult followers have got a problem with Antarctica, haven't you? It's ice shelves are expanding by mass and volume, plus the continent has cooled very significantly in the past 40 years. But a small part (WAIS) of the ice cap is losing mass. Something is making the WAIS melt it would appear, and it cannot be the increasingly colder climate. Maybe geothermal activity? Or maybe a change in wind direction from the Pacific? There's evidence for both. I don't know, but the climate has to warm for the ice to melt significantly and it isn't.
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  10. @kurtilein3  In reality, "there have been statistically significant positive trends in total Antarctic sea ice extent since 1979." (Fogt et al, 2022. Published in Nature) "since 1979 is the only time all four seasons demonstrate significant increases in total Antarctic sea ice in the context of the twentieth century". Antarctic sea ice extent was an unusual weather event dressed up as the end of the world. Antarctic sea ice was at a record maximum in 2015. No one mentioned that as part of a climate crisis. The whole of East and West Antarctica is cooling, and has been for 40 years. East Antarctica has cooled by an impressive 0.7°C per decade. Resulting in an overall substantial and statistically significant decline of 2.8°C since 1980. So much for "Global" warming. I am referring to a paper by Zhu et al (2021) that looked at the reanalysed ERA5 satellite dataset. Check out table 4. Furthermore, the Antarctic Peninsula ice has since been shown to be on the increase “The eastern Antarctic Peninsula Ice Sheet has grown in area over the last 20 years, due to changing wind and sea ice patterns.” (University of Cambridge, May, 2022.) "Overall, the Antarctic ice shelf area has grown by 5305 km² since 2009, with 18 ice shelves retreating and 16 larger shelves growing in area. Our observations show that Antarctic ice shelves gained 661 Gt of ice mass over the past decade." (Andreasen et al, 2023). It is from a paper entitled "Change in Antarctic Ice Shelf Area from 2009 to 2019". They use MODIS (Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer) satellite data to measure the change in ice shelf calving front position and area on 34 ice shelves in Antarctica from 2009 to 2019. Also, as the mass gain (661Gt) was given, you could calculate the volume of the ice gained using the formula: Volume = Mass ÷ Density (assume Density of glacier ice 0.9167 Gt/km³). This would give you (well not you obviously) an Ice Gain Volume ≈721km³. That's how much extra of the lovely white stuff there is around Antarctica. Imagine standing in the centre of this extra ice. It would stretch beyond the horizon in all directions and would be 45 storeys high.
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  18. @AA-vi1cc  There's a bit of a problem with the "accelerating continental ice loss in Antarctica" position. It's not accelerating. If you want to dig down to the actual data, that is. Just so we're clear, I'm referring to the paper entitled "Mass balance of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets from 1992 to 2020" by Otosaka et al, 2023. Can I direct you to table 2, and the text below it? If we include the APIS in "continental" (although I wouldn't) there's no pattern with a slight loss overall - neglible. EAIS, by far the larger of the continent's ice caps, both by surface and volume, hasn't lost mass. It has gained mass, but again it's neglible. So that leaves us with WAIS. It's only WAIS that's driving the mass loss from Antarctica, and you can see that from the Figure 4 graph. Figure 4 and Table 2 show there is a step up in mass loss around 2007. You might want to call that an acceleration. However there's a deceleration from 2017 or at least a noticeable reduction in the rate of annual ice mass loss for the period 2017-2020 when compared to 2012-2016. So accelerating then decelerating. The Antarctic Ice sheet is massive and it's never going to melt on the timescale of human civilisation. Coming back to what we know though about Antarctica, you doomster cult followers have got a problem with Antarctica, haven't you? It's ice shelves are expanding by mass and volume, plus the continent has cooled very significantly in the past 40 years. But a small part (WAIS) of the ice cap is losing mass. Something is making the WAIS melt it would appear, and it cannot be the increasingly colder climate.
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  28. @Hosni Mubarak  These papers together are promoting the idea that the climate of the past was spatially and temporally variable but that the warming that the Earth is currently experiencing is consistent and global. This is not the case. The warming in the current modern era has been neither consistent nor rapid both temporally and spatially. The climate of the US in the 20th century is a good example of this. Remember that the land surface of the US is very comparable to that of China. The US has by far the best actual temperature recordings for this modern period (with very little coverage elsewhere outside of Europe). The accuracy of this data is obviously far superior to estimates using proxies from the past. This is not to disregard the use of proxies (after all there weren't any Chinese peasants wandering around in the Middle Ages with a thermometer) but to use caution and allow for the fact that there will be a large error range from them. Hence the variability demonstrated from past climates may be an artefact. Modern data from NOAA (2021) must be considered more reliable. It shows uneven warming focused on the South East through the early part of the 20th century until it peaks in the 1930s. At which point it should be noted the highest average maxima temperature records were set for the modern era. Some areas of the West showed negligible warming. There then followed a general continent-wide cooling into the 1970s. Then the West began to warm, but the South East continued to cool, so that by the end of the century some SE areas were cooler than they had been a century before. This pattern of uneven warming continues up to the present day. All of this demonstrates to my mind that the climate has a strong internal variability both temporally and spatially without the requirement for any external anthropogenic forcing. Globally satellite data also shows how variable the Earth's climate is with changes up or down of 1°C occurring from one year to the next.
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