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Comments by "Dylan Vogler" (@dylanvogler2165) on "Why are communist-era statues being removed in ex-Soviet states? -BBC News" video.
@otisonyme9649 yeah but it wasn't as much "immigration" as it was "colonisation".
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@otisonyme9649 as the Estonian guy (you know, the one experiencing it and its consequences) explained. No further explanation needed from me. The russification policies weren't only implemented in the USSR itself though. Whilst not as many Russians moved to Poland or Czechoslovakia, the people still were forced to learn Russian at school. Leading to many, especially those born during those times, despising the Russian language.
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@yo2trader539 they did it everywhere. The Russian far east wasn't always ethnically Russian either...
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@ЕкатеринаГ-х3е "they received their state from the hands of the Bolsheviks" and there we see the Russian arrogance as well as their believes in myths as if it is history. Thank you Ekaterina for proving the point that was made here. I also want to remind you that the same USSR tried to destroy the Finnish state during the winter war. They just failed to do so an settled for less, where they also deported the local population btw.
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@sword-swinging cat yeah I do. Whilst not perfect they (the poles) were better for Ukrainian culture than the Russians/Soviets
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@krowaswieta7944 yeah I know. But it shows Russian Russification policies.
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@krowaswieta7944 yes in a way in did. But in Ukraine it also created a group that actually believe the Russian bs as well. Also yeah I know about the Polish partitions)) I have a major in history haha. But yeah it is ironic that they now complaining about the fact that allegedly the Russian language is forbidden now in Ukraine (this is not true just a Russian myth) whilst they themselves literally banned the Ukrainian language in the 19th century.
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@krowaswieta7944 yeah Russia made it impossible for Ukraine and Russia to ever be friendly peoples again. Even friends I knew who were neutral or Pro Russian are now extremely anti Russian. About the states, yeah it is true too it also has pushed Ukraine towards the west and on particular Poland. Something nobody could have thought in the interwar period.
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@gospodinkartoshka no they didn't speak Russian. They spoke old Rus' / east slavic, never Russian. Then the languages split as they all developed on their own. For example Russia had alot of influences from the Mongols as well as that they were influenced by Old Church Slavonic. Ukrainian has actually been russified by the Russians not the other way around. Stop spreading Russian propaganda. And yes Ukraine/Ukrainian wasn't used as a name of a nation before the 19th century as before that they were considered Ruthenians (a name first used for all Rus' then for just the Ukrainians and today only for the Rusyn in Zakarpata).
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@greenpepper871 yeah Russians calling their victims Russophobic, as Russians always play the victim.
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@sword-swinging cat I'd say Belarus even more so. As Ukraine has had the fortune that part of It's territory was outside of Russia. Namely in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, I whilst at times they favoured the Poles in the region, they mostly gave the Ukrainians (called Ruthenians by the Austrians) the room for Ukrainian culture and nationalism to flourish in Lviv (known as Lemberg by the Austrians). Which is why the Ukrainian language and culture is particularly strong there.
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@sword-swinging cat no not after ww1. After the Polish-Ukrainian and Polish-Soviet war it did.
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