Comments by "Dylan Vogler" (@dylanvogler2165) on "Why the Dutch support colonialism" video.
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@DenUitvreter it's funny that you start about Americans, because I am Dutch and my profession is in the field of history. You don't know history better, because you're older, nor was the history education you received better. It was different. History changes with the time. As history isn't the past, history is the reconstruction of the past with the sources we have available to us. You have a very flawed view on history. Whilst we indeed shouldn't judge the past with our modern morality, there is nothing wrong in acknowledging that I modern terms, as we are modern people and when people ask you about colonialism it is from a modern perspective, imperialism and colonialism is bad. Yes slavery was practiced my mankind since antiquity, but that doesn't mean it is okay. Kings als used to be able to just execute you if they felt like it, I doubt you'd be willing to want to go back to that.
Personally, and I teach my students in the same way, that history has its good and bad points. The colonial empire is historical fact and with it the bad parts of it as well. So we should look at these parts to and recognize them. Does it mean all was evil? No. But should we return to something or be specifically proud of it? No I don't think so either.
It is incredible arrogant to state that because you're older, you know better. I am younger than you, but am certain I have spend more time studying this subject than you have, as it is my job. It is also incredibly rude to try to attack a nationality and you're even wrong. Geboren en getogen in Nederland ))
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@DenUitvreter your whole comment is full of arrogance. The only ignorant person here, are you. I'm glad to know you seem to know better than someone who's job it is. Maybe get your head out of your ass and start to learn from the newer generation as well. I personally hope I never get anywhere like you when I get older and that I stay in touch with the world I live in.
The 20th century is a century of two world wars and a cold war. With my family being refugees of the first, resistance fighters in the second and having family in the USSR during the cold war. I think my family knows plenty, we just aren't stuck in the past.
Also no the war against the Spanish was about religious persecution and disproportionate taxation of the low countries. It was at first not even aimed at the King of Spain. Where do you think the line "Den koning van Hispanje, heb ik altijd geërd" comes from?
The newer generation doesn't know all and neither do you. You indeed have a 20th century way of thinking and I am glad this way of thinking will die out with your generation, as, again it let to two world wars, a cold war (we also have someone in the family who fought in Korea) and alot of colonial conflicts, including the Indonesian war of independence, or as you probably know it "de politionele acties". A disgusting conflict in of itself.
What you glorify about our past, is the same stuff the Americans and Russians are doing on the 21st century. So I suppose you see the American interventions in the middle east and the Russian invasions of Georgia and Ukraine as normal? As to put into perspective what you think is normal.
So maybe stop the "I know better because I am older and everyone who has a different opinion than mine is poorly educated/ignorant" attitude as that makes you the ignorant person here. I know change is difficult, but that is what happens, the day of today, doesn't exist anymore tomorrow. You can learn plenty of the younger generation, ironically the generations before you, spoke the same about you, as you do about the youngest generations.
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