Comments by "Dylan Vogler" (@dylanvogler2165) on "" video.

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@colmcorbec7031 history doesn't really repeat itself though. It rhymes.
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@lati long downplayed? Mate I know alot of Ukrainians, and none of them want to be part of Russia. Only the elderly or the stupid long for Russia.
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@lati long and to be clear. Not all elderly.
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@lati long yeah I am fluent in Russian and Ukrainian. Ofcourse Pro Russian doesn't mean wanting to unify with the Russians (a point I try to get across to people pointing to the 2014 election). After all Pro Western Ukrainians also don't want to unify with Poland. About the ultra nationalist thing, yeah that increased drastically after 2014 as it tends to do. I do have formerly Russia leaning family from Donetsk, but even they fled to Kharkiv and are now Pro Ukraine, but yeah these are older people. They were Russia leaning due to nostalgia more so than reality. To quote a girl I was met in Kropvynysky, and she was far from ultra nationalist, complaining alot about what was wrong with the country, ;"those that want the USSR back, are either old people or lunatics". In the Donbass support for Russia is higher but even there a minority in regards to wanting to join Russia. Alot of Pro Ukrainian people had to flee in 2014. Those that stayed there have been pushed further from Kyiv due to 8 years of war. Not to mention that those having grown up with the war, don't know better and have been told to hate Kyiv and UA for 8 years.
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@lati long btw yes Ukrainians and Russians are a seperate people. Similar, but different. As a Germans and Dutch people, Serbs and Croats, Spaniards and Portugese etc etc. The USSR thing was to point to the fact that most are happy within an INDEPENDENT Ukraine. One not ruled from Moscow. Call it USSR, call it Russian Federation or Russian Empire, to the Ukrainians it is the SAME thing. Those that are/were pro Russian wanted closer ties with Russia, not annexation. They cling to more traditional and Conservative values as well as historical ties. I didn't mean the Eurasian Economc Union (the fact that Yanukovich tried to get an agreement with the EEU instead of the EU, led to the Euromaidan, it was the last straw) at all. Ukraine even never formally joined the CIS and only was a observer state only. About the people not being happy of their Kyiv government after 2014... they voted for a new government after Yanukovich was ousted (he was a Ukrainian Lukachenko so to speak, so they spared themselves an autocracy) which saw Poroshenko become president. Then in 2019, no Pro Russian candidates would make it to the second round of the presidential elections. Which would be won with an absolute landslide by Zelensky. Who then dissolved the Verkhovna Rada and called for general elections. In these general elections Zelensky's party (Servant of the peoplel won an absolute majority, including in the South (with had before often voted in favour of Pro Russian parties) which is a novelty in Ukraine. Only in Donetsk oblast, Luhansk oblast and in Budjak part of Odesa oblast (the part of Ukraine across the Dnister in what used to be Southern Besserabia) they voted for the "for live" opposition party which is Pro Russian. So yeah I can tell you that this about the Kyiv government is simply untrue.
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@lati long Russia has pushed Ukraine and the Ukrainian people towards the West. There were many Russian sympathic people in Ukraine before the war. I have been there alot of times, including in the east, and alot didn't hate them. They were neutral. Russia changed this. They first did so with their actions in Crimea and the Donbass, effectively making it impossible to ever again get a pro Russian government (consider that after the Orange Revolution there had also been a Pro Russian government) as he detached the, in the case of the Donbass ,part off, the most Pro Russian regions (Luhansk Oblast, Donetsk Oblast and the Autonomous Republic of Crimea). Any sympathy that was left after this clear violation of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum in 2014 was destroyed on February 24th this year. I was Russophile before too)) not so much anymore, and with me alot of those I know too. I have seen friends that always spoke Russian, vow to never do so again and they now speak exclusively Ukrainian to me and correct me when I speak Russian to them. And again, the Ukrainian voted overwhelmingly for a Pro Western course due to the actions of Russia. As it seems the only choices for Ukraine are either independence and with it a pro Western course, or subjugation and ceasing to exist. With the Russians claiming the Ukrainian language doesn't exist (bs as it is centuries old) and that Ukrainians are just Russians who lost their way. A pro Russian path is not even possible anymore even if they had wanted so, as at the least it would mean subjugation like Belarus.
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@lati long if you want a sentiment about Russian Imperialism from a Ukrainian from the past. Read the poem "caucasus" from Taras Shevchenko.
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@stacey_1111rh I have a history major. But thanks mate. History doesn't repeat itself. As no situation is identical. Can you point me to a situation in history that is identical, as in EXACTLY the same. You won't find any. That is why history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes. It is clear you haven't studied history, as it is litterally the first thing they teach you.
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