Comments by "Dylan Vogler" (@dylanvogler2165) on "Kaliningrad Stand-Off" video.

  1.  @thedeepAlcove  then your remark of Eastern European countries poking the bear.. so defending your freedom that you have finally achieved against a aggressive, imperialist, dominating neighbour is poking the bear? That is the world upside down is it not?
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  2.  @thedeepAlcove  lol no. In Germany it is because they still feel embarrassed and guilty for the horrors they inflicted to the USSR, and in the case of France it has nothing to do with the time of Napoleon lmao (which you are referring too). It has to do with the fact that France has the misplaced believe that they have influence in the Kremlin and can talk Putin out of this war. Stop living in the past mate. France and Germany both lost to Russia but have also both won against the same country.
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  3.  @originalsusser  you can twist history anyway you like. But Russia lost these wars, including the Crimean war. You can use any excuse to be able to cope with it. The fact is that the second world war is actually unique in the fact of one side of such large conflict being completely occupied. This didn't happen in ww1 either. Russia was losing the war during ww1, which is exactly one of the reasons of the revolution. The amount of twisting to have something fit your narrative does amuse me though. Also I am actually a history major specialized on Eastern European history. I think it says more about you being not in touch with reality when you believe that Russia never lost a war against these nations. I think you would also twist and turn events to say Japan never defeated Russia during war right? About the situation during the revolution, you are aware about the allied intervention on the sides of the whites during said revolution right? So the part of them not intervening in your argument is literally false... this after you have shown nothing but the Russian arrogance and misplaced sense of superiority in your comment. This whilst Russian education is known to be notoriously bad.
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  4.  @thedeepAlcove  have you studied history? You are aware that Russia lost the first world war to Germany? Badly actually. Read about the treaty of Brest-Litovsk. Against France they lost War of the second coalition, war of the third coalition and the war of the fourth coalition. But I am not surprised they haven't taught you this at school, that would break the myth of Russian superiority and invincibility.
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  5.  @nikolasvenetidis9608  "they can back pay NATO for the 60+ years they claimed neutrality", yeah sure let's punish countries for having wanted to stay neutral in the cold war, seems fair. Do you also know why Finland was neutral during those times? I'd advise you to open a history book and maybe you should look up the term "Finlandization" as well. Finland and Sweden in my opinion are welcome in the alliance. A alliance created by the Americans btw )) About it being not the US's problem, well actually it is. The current situation in Ukraine is the direct result of the geopolitical "game" that the US and Russia are playing with Ukraine caught in the middle. Then again during the USSR, both powers also fought each other in other counties and continents and never directly. So next time the US decides to go bomb or invade some Middle Eastern or North African country we can also say "well this is not our problem?". It's called being allies and it works both ways, considering the US has dragged us into so many bs situations. This combined with the fact that, luckily, US policy makers can actually think further ahead than you. Any idea what the result for the US would be in Europe would be dominated by the Russians? Exactly. The way you think once dominated European and American minds during the interwar years "why die for Danzig (Gdansk)?". This passive way of thinking has cost millions of lives. About "most liberal Europeans slamming the US" learn to be able to accept criticism mate. People criticize my country too and often they do have a point. You can actually learn from it or you just ignore it. It's that simple. Europe and the US have been friends for such a long time, friends do criticise each other too. I mean the constant shootings for example, it is a problem is it not? Ofcourse people will talk about it for example or the US's foreign wars. At the same point my country should finally spend the 2% of gdp which is agreed to for its military. When the US complains about it, people here say well yeah they're actually right. I hope that with your friends you are actually capable of taking criticism, it makes people and nations grow.
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  6.  @viljosavolainen2286  this and he carefully seems to forget that most of the current tension is because of the American-Russian rivalry. The Russians see us in Europe as just American vassals. Even now in their fight in Ukraine they don't care about Ukraine or the Ukrainians, in their mind they're fighting the Americans there.
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  7.  @thedeepAlcove  about the not expanding eastward thing, which shows me that you are actually Russian as it is one of its main propaganda points, well there is no l proof of it. No written treaty or commitment. So if it is true, it was naive of Gorbachev and scummy of the West. But we don't know as everyone can say anything without proof. Then there is the matter of the state that would have made this agreement (if it actually happened) not existing anymore. The very argument Russia likes to make itself (we made this agreement with another government and don't recognize the current one). About Russia wanting to join NATO, that is correct. But Russia, just like any other state, has to meet the requirements. It didn't. Russia just expected to be invited, instead of having to apply themselves and get through the application process. As in typical display of Russian arrogance and their misplaced sense of superiority, they considered themselves to be above the other nations and didn't want to wait in line. Not to mention the fact that what they wanted was a European security system without the US, aka Russia wanted to replace the US. As a European descended from people living under the domination of the Russians/Soviets and myself growing up in the West, I prefer having the US as the leader of NATO as they have a record of leaving you alone whilst part of their alliance whilst we have the Soviet example of how they threated their former Warsaw pact allies when those tried to reform. Even now Russia intervenes in other CSTO member states, eventhough this was with the invitation of the Kazakh government, this is not okay. I am glad I can protest against my government without the fear of US troops coming to kill me.
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