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Yeah same with the Russian speaking bs. I have lived for a while in Ukraine, but only spoke Russian, never had have any problems there for doing so.
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Also it is kinda hypocrite of the Russians to critise Ukrainians as they worship Stalin
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@marietg8025 that is bs. Sounds a little like racist theory to me. So how does a Ukrainian look to you? And a Ukrainian? I am curious about your statement how apparently ALL Russians and Ukrainians look. I can show you a picture of ethnic Ukrainians and Russians from the same city, 100% you won't see who's Russian and who's Ukrainian
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@Геннадий Шуплецов this is so bs. 1. Ukraine only wanted to join NATO as a result of 2014 (invasion of Crimea) as Russia broke the Budapest Memorandum. 2. Russia has nothing to say about the decisions of other souvereign countries. You support an imperialist policy. 3. NATO enlargement is a forged pretext, as the invasion will result in Finland joining NATO, with it doubling the Russian-NATO border and potentially threatening SPB from two sides. 4. Ukraine wasn't going to join NATO anytime soon due to lacking the necessary reforms + outstanding territorial disputes. 5. There are already nuclear weapons on the European continent pointed at Moscow, just like you have weapons pointed at our capitals, no one except Russia is threatening the use of them though. (I suppose we should also demand Kaliningrad being demilitarised? As it is closer to Berlin and Warsaw, than Ukraine is to Moscow) Whilst I don't think Putin wants to rebuild the USSR and is more focused on building a new Russian Empire, this war is clearly imperialist in nature. Just like the Empires before it, it claims to be the victim and claims the actual victim is somehow the aggressor. We should remember that Russia is the only one denying the existence of the other nation, its culture and language. In your logic it would also mean Russia has to withdraw all of its forces near NATO countries. Or does this security concern only work one way? (Curious to see if you're a hypocrite like most Russians, crying about the West, whilst you do the same stuff). It's sad to see how easily people like you just repeat, like parrots, what your government/news tells you without using your own brain.
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@conniepr Russian speaking Ukrainians are just Ukrainians. They are just as loyal as the Ukrainian speaking population. I myself am learning Ukrainian as most of my friends and family (I myself am not from Ukraine but my mom's side of the family is) switched to Ukrainian. But yeah the Russian speakers didn't want to be "liberated". The fact they speak Russian, after centuries of Russification, has been used as an excuse. You can see in how much some care about Ukraine by giving up their mother tongue, the language they have spoken since childhood, to show they support Ukraine. Слава Україні! Смерть ворогам!
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 @Maxim9575 Stalin?
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п 🤣🤣🤣 joke of the century. Democratic 🤣🤣. Okay Vatnik if you believe so. Stay safe in your alternative reality. Your twisted view on the USSR says it all.
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 @MPA3OTA228 because Ukraine threatened Russia? Clown.
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@Connie Anna from Ukraine is a good person yeah. I also enjoy watching her videos. Haha yeah slavic languages are hard for those that speak Germanic languages. But great job mate, you'll manage. In the end Russia will achieve what it said Ukraine was doing, it will make sure Ukrainian replaces Russian in Ukraine due to its actions.
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п 🤣🤣🤣🤣. As a citizen of the Netherlands with relatives and friends in Ukraine, what a bs 🤣🤣. In my own country I can critize the government even insult the leaders, even the king. In Ukraine you can even critize the government, what you aren't allowed to do is openly collaborate with the enemy, which is always the case in war time. Meanwhile some restrictions in Russia means a man lost his child and is imprisoned because his daughter showed a actual human side to herself (more than you) and made a drawing against the war.
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@dickiydicker ask the Americans. I don't support their imperialism either. I think the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (which the USSR invaded too btw) are outrageous and Bush should be tried for it. It is a clear example of neo-imperialism. About Serbia, I suppose you mean Kosovo. Yeah I don't think what they did there was okay. The actions of the Serbs on the Albanians was not okay, but this was not the right course of action. A clear violation of Serbia's souverenighty, and since Kosovo's declaration of independence, also of its territorial integrity. For me Kosovo should be Serbian but with autonomy as it was during Yugoslavia. But this exactly proves the point about Russians being hypocrites. You rightfully criticize the Americans for their actions, yet you are okay with your own country doing it. So you have the capacity to see what is wrong, now use it as well when your own country does it. Whataboutism doesn't work on me, as I am consistent on my way of thinking. The actions of the Americans don't justify the actions of the Russians. But I don't support either ))
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@dickiydicker tell me how I am wrong about the Budapest Memorandum in which the signatories explicitly state to refrain from the use, or threatening with the use, of military or economic means against Ukraine (as well as Belarus and Kazakhstan). I am someone who has studied history and specialised in Soviet and Post Soviet history of Eastern Europe. Russia broke this memorandum in 2014. This is a fact, and you don't liking this fact, doesn't change anything about it. Someone who has true strength is also able to see the mistakes of their own country )). But you probably believe that Russia is always the victim and never does anything wrong?
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Seems like a fair assessment. I noticed the same with talking with Russian friends. Things like "we can't change anything anyway", "if Putin is gone, we might get a worse president" etc. is what they often say. Also the "our guys die there" to which I answer "because they are invading Ukraine..." seems to indeed be beyond their capabilities. It's almost as if Russia collectively has Stockholm syndrome towards Putin at this point.
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 @ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п Russia is an Empire lol. It actually behaves like the colonial empires of the 19th and early 20th centuries
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When will you join the Russian army?
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@kibervatniki7552 bs. My family is from Donetsk and had to flee because of the Russians. They're still hoping to get their house back someday. About those seperatists, it is a tragic story, Russia wants their land but not the people on it. They are canonfodder and resources to Russia, nothing more. This is seen with Russians refusing pro Russian Ukrainians fleeing Kharkiv after the liberation, they literally refused their entry into the Russian Federation eventhough they had Russian passports. They're just tools and pawns for the Russian plans.
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Слава Україні! Слава ЗСУ!
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Ah yes, winning side. Meanwhile day 800+ of the 3 day special military operation
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@Joco no they're not. The fact they come from the same people doesn't mean they are the same people now. Same applies to the Dutch and Germans.
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@pogrom00 they have alot in common, but they're not the same people. Dutch and German people have alot in common, Czechs and Slovaks do, Serbs and Croats even speak the same language but with different alphabets, yet in all cases they're not the same peoples.
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@Salad77 the red and black flags have a different history though. Also the heroes of one are the villains of the other. Poland and Ukraine had a difficult history (including the forced Polizination of Ukrainian lands) I don't support Bandera but I can understand Ukrainians doing so. Russians are hypocrites when they critize Ukrainians for this considering they worship Stalin.
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Same. But remember not all in the video speak Ukrainian. Some speak Russian, so if they put Ukrainian subtiltles under that it won't be 100% the same as what the person says in regards to the sound. (I already speak Russian, my Ukrainian was always horrible, now I am studying it so I can hopefully one day fully switch to Ukrainian instead of Russian when I am talking with my family and friends from UA)
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Sure buddy ))
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@natureblank1401 the fact you so blindly fall for imperialist propaganda and even proudly use symbols of hate as a badge of honor, makes me worry for the average intelligence of Russians.
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@mr q names of people change. Ukrainians were already mentioned before in history as "Ruthenians" and their land as "Ruthenia". Seperate from Russia. So yeah nice twisting of history.
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 @Yoshkincat-u6i Russia is also not a state then. It is rightfully Mongol territory. Your imperialist bs is funny as it works both ways.
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@Геннадий Шуплецов nice argument. Is this the Russian way of discussion things? When the other actually bases is argument on historical facts and knows more about a subject, just say "B.S!" Here that wouldn't be that successful. It is a good strategy in Russia? Honestly curious.
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You should. It is a beautiful country. I had the fortune to study there for a while. Personally I like Odesa the most but I'd also advise you to visit Lviv, Kharkiv, Kyiv and even Poltava. Personally I will also go there after the war to help in rebuilding the country, specifically help my family and friends there. I want to visit the carpathians and zakarpattia as a whole. My friend showed me pictures of Uzhorod and I want to see it haha.
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п which is the reason Ukraine pivoted to the West, to have a better live and increase the standard of living. But you guys don't want Ukraine to be successful without Russia. Maybe if you stop bombing them, they can finally improve.
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I am surprised some didn't say Russia
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 @natureblank1401 cope harder. Bakhmut fallen yet?
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@comment6864 have you been in Ukraine recently? Been in Lviv? Kyiv? Hmm. Also lmao sure buddy, is that why Russian spetznas is now sunflower food in Hostomel?
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@Warsik-rj6cc no. You're not one people and besides any reason they mention there is simply one reason why you're not. The reason is, that Ukrainians consider themselves a seperate people and this means they are a seperate people. Your opinion and mine on the subject means nothing. The only one who can determine if they are a seperate people, are they themselves
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The Russian language is not the property of the Russian state. Let people use their language as they want. You can't ask people that are raised with a certain language and who think in that language, to just abandon it. I have friends that switched languages and I have some that haven't, because they feel like they can't express themselves as good in Ukrainian. I have family from Donetsk, and I myself am raised outside Ukraine. I've been only taught Russian, and only now I learn Ukrainian. When I visit Ukraine, and also when I lived there during my studies, I used Russian. The language spoken by a person doesn't determine their loyalty. Many Russian speakers are defending the country against the invaders. Russian will become used less as time progresses and new generations will be raised, but don't take away people's native language, if you do you're no better than the orcs. Слава Україні / Украине.
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 @КазакАлександр-э5о so only the Russians? What about the 60% of the population that is Ukrainian? It was never an ethnic conflict in the Donbas, it is an imperialist one.
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@Mikk Nikls yes that seems about right, yes. You get it, and I am glad to hear that. So many Russians play the "ethnic Russian" card. Whilst ethnicity doesn't play any role. Not all ethnic Russians are pro Russian, and not all that are pro Russian are ethnic Russians. A conflict with those wanting to move on and try to have a new, and thus scary, future, and those that want it to remain as it was or go back even to earlier times. But the so-called banning of the Russian language is bs, for example. The biggest threat for the Russian language is Ukraine, is Russia itself. Nothing has caused as many Russians speakers to die or change their language, than the current invasion.
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@pwn5047 no actually not. We have enough historical reasons to dislike Russia. Maybe read up on the history of the Russian Empire and the USSR, in particular in relation to their policies towards Ukraine, her people and culture.
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@dowmont6209 here is the thing you as an orc seem unable to understand. How do the people identify themselves? That is if they are the same or not )) not you decide that orc. Ukrainians aren't Russians. It's that easy Moskal ))
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п so proof me wrong. Go to Moscow, go to red square, protest. Let me know how that went Moskal. Meanwhile I can protest and say what I want. Freedom of speech is more than the Internet, we're not the same. Come on say to Putin's face is a idiot. Tell me how it went. I can say those things in my country to the face of the leaders.
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Yeah Ukrainian is beautiful. Although I like Russian too (which is also spoken alot in Ukraine), it is just sad that this language is politicized by the Russian state. No language is the property of a state, although Russia thinks Russian is its property.
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@Hedda ironically live outside the major cities is at the level of 3th world countries. Moscow and SPB are at the same level as European cities, the rest is not.
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 @ЕвгенийЛебедев-д2й and it is also not Russia
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@kibervatniki7552 besides the Ukrainian People's Republic existing in 1917-1921, thus proving how misinformed you are, the Cossack Hetmenate was a Ukrainian state. Stop spreading Russian imperialist myths as the truth.
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 @kibervatniki7552 Russia within its modern borders was alo formed only in the 20th century. Lmao Vatnik 😂😂
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This is exactly what determines a seperate people, the view of the people themselves. Dutch and Germans aren't the same people anymore as we grew apart after the 16th century and ww2 moved us further apart. Austrians in the 20th century can be considered Germans, as they saw themselves as Germans. Now they are a seperate people as they see themselves as seperate. You my man, are completely right
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😂😂
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@sdfghgtre3w2345 relatively safe. Which is an important nuance to your statement. Lviv, Zhytomir, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil, and other West-Ukrainian cities have been targeted by the Russians as well. So whilst it obviously is safer than Southern and Eastern Ukraine, and even than central Ukraine, its safer not safe. I think the last thing we should do, is give the ЗСУ (ZSU, AFU in English) more people to look after, especially tourists, during the war. I want nothing more than to visit friends and family, but there is a time and place for anything, it is not now.
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 @stanislavkorniienko1523 tell me when you've done it. What an a**. So nice how he only cares about himself.
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 @alfredneuman6488 almost made it very clear he didn't mean that if your not in the EU, that you're not civilized.
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@yandex I love the whataboutism. Fix your own country first before criticising your neighbours. Also I don't approve of it, but I understand the actions against a state that have been attacking Ukraine since 2014 and also not for the first time in history.
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 @Yoshkincat-u6i Volodymyr the Great ))
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@Chaldon 41 1917 if we use modern states and the 17th century if we look at culturally Ukrainian states (Cossack Hetmenate)
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@ЕвгенийЛебедев-д2й then we agree. I support Ukraine but I think it is stupid from nationalists from both sides to claim the Rus' are either Ukrainian or Russian. The Rus' wouldn't recognize either language, state or culture as their own. Modern states claiming a medieval confederation as if it was a predessor to them, is ridiculous. Just as much as Italy claiming the Roman Empire was an ancient form of them.
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Why the Prince's flag (prinsenvlag) though? XD for the rest I agree. Слава Україні!
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@esercitodiburioni7804 so explain why Russians worship Stalin? Killer of millions? Yeah orc
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@Warsik-rj6cc so? Germans and Dutch people are Germanic people, we have very different mentalities. As someone with friends and family in Ukraine, as well as friends in Russia, there is a large difference in mentality between the two peoples.
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 @mxbyzantine different language, culture l, history etc.
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I didn't expect to see someone say my country (the Netherlands) so it was a nice surprise!
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The reason Switzerland was never invaded is that its geography makes it a pain to invade and what you get for all the trouble isn't worth it
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@dowmont6209 you identify as Russian and say they are Russian. They identify as Ukrainian. So they are Ukrainians and you Russian. Nobody tells you that you are a Mongolian or something else either. We call you what you identify yourself as, so respect the Ukrainians and do that too. If they see themselves as different, they are. Your opinion is irrelevant.
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@kadovax6567 Kyiv and Kharkiv are both beautiful. I hope you can achieve your dream of seeing them. About Crimea, well I dream of visiting it as well. My friend from Kropvynysky and I already have promised we'd visit it together when it is Ukrainian again. Слава Україні!
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@sacuki2151 ah yeah. Yeah I know what Surzhyk is, as in my best friend speaks it. But yeah that is why I recognized some words of it. I lived in UA before but didn't come to central Ukraine often. But thanks for clarifying it. Currently trying to learn Ukrainian, as I was only taught Russian by my family (they originate from Donetsk) and I prefer to speak Ukrainian instead of Russian with my friends now ))
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Yeah... sadly it is often the case with populations living in imperialist powers. It is great to see that you atleast see the truth.
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@Ekes Andras not entirely true as there's also Surzhyk.
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@Jan Hanchen Michelsen yeah same for me. I was planning to return there and complete my studies there, only to be stopped by Covid and then the old lunatic. Haven't seen the family in 4 years 😅. Odesa is gorgeous. It's my favourite city in Ukraine. I hope you are soon able to see it. You will go through a beautiful part of Ukraine (I used to occasionally take the bus/train from Lviv to Odesa and then you pass through the same part of the country). I'd advise you to see Lviv, too. It is the cultural heart of Ukrainian culture and the Ukrainian language. I hope you'll be soon able to visit it. I am planning to go on a tour through the entire country, including Crimea, after the war (I'll go there to help rebuild).
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@Jan Hanchen Michelsen let's hope so. все буде Україна! Including Crimea and the Donbas (my family originates from Donetsk, but they live in Kharkiv now). Yeah I miss some of my friends and family, I am born and raised in the Netherlands. I am half Ukrainian, half Dutch. But I also spend considerable time in Ukraine. I always say I have two homes, the Netherlands and Ukraine. I miss Ukraine alot, but I promised my best friend from Kropvynysky to not return until after the war, as she is afraid I will have to fight and will die. So I keep my promise eventhough it eats at the soul. She often says to me that it is clear that the Ukrainian side is strongest in me 😅🤣🤣 Everything we will be fine, Ukraine will be free. Ironically the only Ukrainian speaking city I have been to is Lviv, all others I have been to are Russian speaking (makes sense considering where my family is from) but I want to visit alot of cities in Western Ukraine. You will like Lviv, and the other cities you'll see, I am sure of it. If you ever get the chance, you should visit Zakarpattia Oblast as well. Beautiful carpathians. Jealous of my friend who visited Uzhorod haha. Kharkiv is also a city you should one day visit, Shevchenko park is gorgeous)). Слава Україні! Смерть ворогам! Україна переможе!
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@janhanchenmichelsen2627 І вам слава, сині гори, Кригою окуті! І вам, лицарі великі, Богом не забуті. Борітеся — поборете! Вам бог помагає! За вас правда, за вас слава І воля святая! - Тарас Григорович Шевченко (Taras Hryhorovych Shevchenko) We should remember that poem from Shevchenko.
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Source :"trust me bro". Je comment verteld me al, dat je zelf nooit in Oekraïne geweest bent. Vooral blijven geloven in Russische propaganda.
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@comment6864 ah so you're a keyboard warrior? Dude put your money where your mouth is at )).
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Whilst I share your statement, I think it is wisest not to repeat the mistakes of the treaty of Versailles. How much I hate the Russian Federation, it is short-sighted to wish ill on the common people or wish to destroy the state. In the end we will have to be able to create a lasting peace in the region after Ukrainian victory, and not do the same as we did to the Germans only let them resent us more and start another, even more devastating, war.
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@Samimi_Sabimi Novgorod was never the capital of a Rus' state though. But again orc, try reacting on more recent stuff. Don't bother reacting Moskal.
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Смерть ворогам!
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So my girl her opinion wouldn't matter because she is well dressed and lives in Kyiv? Bit ridiculous.
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Lol nahw because they tell the truth which you can't handle
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 @comment6864 what did you use and can I have some of it too?
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 @DanielMGarcia69 that was what was happening before 2014...
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@Connie I knew it, for obvious reasons, but it was covered up because Stalin was one of the victors of WW2, whilst he actually was just as evil was Hitler. The shocking part is that the Moskals even worship Stalin, yet they complain about Bandera. But it is not just Holodomor. The Russians did a warcrime against the Poles in Katyn, which they still deny. Yet they complain about what the UPA did. They're the biggest hypocrites. This is without talking about the earlier things the Russians and Soviets did. Including the Ukrainian - Soviet war
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@81Heino yes and even in Lviv etc you could speak in Russian if you'd explain them that you don't speak Ukrainian because you're a foreigner (as they obviously preferred Ukrainian also before the war). It is Russia's actions that will make Russia less and less used in Ukraine and see a rise of Ukrainian. Not Ukrainian government, even if they would have wanted to (which they didn't) could have done so much damage to the Russian language in Ukraine, as Putin's Russia has done.
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@Andrei Tiberiovic Gazdovici I love Ukraine, but what they do need to fix, and what they are working very hard on, even during the war, is the corruption problem. That is something that otherwise can be a problem in joining the EU. But lets hope our new brothers and sisters from Ukraine, which so clearly have shown that they don't want to be part of the "Русский мир" anymore but instead part of European civilisation, will be welcomed soon in the EU. It would make me, a half Dutch, half Ukrainian person extremely happy. Героям слава! Смерть ворогам!
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@sacuki2151 I actually specifically ask my best friend to either speak Russian or Ukrainian (so I can practice it) as Surzhyk for me is really hard to understand.
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 @Maxim9575 Moskal 🤮
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@esercitodiburioni7804 go home orc
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@le roy anthony "coup". You mean Ukrainians deciding they don't want to be serfs like the Belarusians and kicking their Putin puppet put?
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@wiktorpoliszczuk1372 🤣🤣🤣
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@natureblank1401 okay so I will again show your hypocrisy. What are you thoughts on Stalin? The point I try to make is that you are apparently supporting a war because some Ukrainians support an a**hole who is responsible for thousands of deaths whilst you and your country support an a**hole responsible for millions, actually tens of millions, of people. He even got a new statue. Don't you see the hypocrisy in that? I mean Stalin was on par with Hitler and had the USSR been defeated, people would have spoken about Stalin as we now do about Hitler. As they were both just as evil. The Russians of all people should know how the mystification of historical people works. You even have one mass murderer, responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths on display in Moscow (Stalin used to be there too, but was removed). Again clear parrot, just repeating what others tell him without any critical thinking. Most Ukrainians don't even know Bandera, much less support him. But keep believing all your Führer tells you Vatnik.
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@Denys101 you know I support Ukraine right? I am in Kyiv right now actually 😆
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@sk8es25 I do. My family is originally from Donetsk before fleeing in 2015. I do share part of his sentiment. I want all Russians out of the 1991 international borders of Ukraine and they should be forced to pay for the death and destruction they caused. But on the long term to create lasting peace you need to not punish them extremely harsh. This was done to Germany after WW1 and all it did was create an angry revanchist state, which directly caused ww2. It is weird for me as well to think about it, but in the end we're neighbours and whether we like it or not, we have to deal with them. I rather see a peaceful Russia than again a revanchist one. So yes they must be defeated utterly on the battlefield, forced to recognize UA's internationally recognized borders and pay war reparations. We however shouldn't punish their people beyond that. Unless we want to repeat the mistakes of the past.
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@kibervatniki7552 but the Rus' aren't Russia lol. Nor are they Ukraine. They are just predessors to both nations. Just like how the Frankish Empire isn't France, Germany or the Netherlands and Italy isn't the Roman Empire. The Rus' are as much Russian as they are Ukrainian and Belarusian. They wouldn't recognize any of the three states, languages or culture. What you are saying is called a national myth. The same as that the Dutch called themselves the descendents of the Batavians for a long time. Also there was no Varangia. Varangian is just another name for Vikings. Specifically used for the Swedish Vikings going to the major rivers in what is now Ukraine, Belarus and parts of Western Russia.
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@Samimi_Sabimi bro, are you a necromancer lmao. It's been 6 months Moskal. Not to mention that there was no principality of Moscow in the ancient Rus', the power in that region, was the principality of Rus'. Much later Moscow came to power due to it being the b*tch or the Mongols.
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@casp.george8894 Kosovo is imho also Serbia.
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Russians always seek strong leaders. It gives security and stability. Also, you don't need to worry about politics in such systems.
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@СергейШилов-о3ф atleast not a Moskal like you 🖕
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Meanwhile openly worships Stalin. Which makes you a hypocrite.
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@marietg8025 lol yeah bad Ukrainians for thinking they are their own people and don't want to be part of a Russian Empire. How evil of the Ukrainians to want to be their own independent state and it totally justifies invading them. 🤡
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@Faulpelz55 yeah most forgot that a large group of people from those regions fled in both 2014 and 2022/'23. This is one more reason why the referenda were bs. Those displaced have litteraly no voice in the future of their region if it is up to the Moscovites
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This is not Russian? These are Ukrainians
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@maximo cristobal valdespino not that easy, would you just give up your native language? I think Ukrainian should be promoted and in the next generations it will be the dominant language everywhere in Ukraine, but don't force people to abandon the language they've been speaking since childhood. It must be a voluntary switch. Otherwise you're doing exactly what Russian propaganda claims))
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 @mikknikls8356 Да, ты прав.
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@Геннадий Шуплецов the revolution of dignity didn't happen because of the US. It happened because Viktor Yanukovich was an a**hole who broke his election promises because Russia gave him money. He was a corrupt jerk who had already been guilty of election fraud before. He reversed democratic reforms to the constitution. Ukrainians aren't Russians and didn't want an authoritarian ruler. So they demonstrated, he started using police violence, and whilst this might have scared you guys off in Moscow, in Kyiv, they doubled down. So it is wrong that the people ousted a leader that was turning in an authoritarian in order to defend their democratic values?
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@kobiljonkamolov6655 and where are you from exactly? ))
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@dowmont6209 if you see yourself as one nation with the Russians, you are a Russian. Meanwhile Ukrainians, including my friends and family and the vast majority, doesn't consider themselves the same nation. Stop your imperial "all-Russian nations" bs please. Stop denying the existence of a seperate Ukrainian state and people. Only imperialists do such things
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@Геннадий Шуплецов it is time for Russia to stop its obsession with the West. We are not responsible for any troubles you might have or have had. You yourself are responsible for them. Nobody wants to invade you. What's the point? The West's standard of living is higher, there's nothing to gain in terms of the costs it would bring. Not to mention nobody would support an invasion of Russia. You say we are Russophobic, but you guys are Westernphobic. The Central and Eastern European countries joining NATO, as well as Sweden and Finland wanting to join now, are the result of the USSR and Russia's own actions. Before you say you are not the USSR anymore, to us you just changed your name and ideology but besides that you are the same thing. As you behave the same, your leader has a different title, but rules the same as a tsar or commissar, and you are still using Soviet symbols and are obsessed with it.
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@dickiydicker what is your proof of the coup? Exactly nothing. It just propaganda. Just like I am sure you call the current situation in Georgia a coup. In 2008 there was no attempt of Ukraine, or Georgia, to join NATO. You are telling a half truth. What happens is that Bush wanted to promise NATO membership to these countries, which, because of France and Germany, was changed to them "eventually" getting this. Ukraine at that time did not pursue NATO membership as until Russia's aggression in 2014, there wasn't popular support. After Russian aggression, UA changed it's constitution as it couldn't be neutral anymore considering it had just been invaded. Even if the US had intervened in Ukraine, invading the country was not the way to react according to the Budapest Memorandum. About the rest, maybe focus on your own country? Maybe then you can improve the lives of everyone there, instead of being obsessed over Ukraine. Ukraine doesn't want to be Russian and has shown to want to determine its own future, a European one. About not being legal according to the Ukrainian constitution, first arrange that your own country has a strong separation of powers and is a functioning democracy, then start critizicing your neighbours. Again, mind your own business, plenty to fix in sh*thole Russia. If you'd spend the money on the people and the country instead of the army, you guys would be living with a standard of living like in Europe. So leave us alone and f off ))
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@Ines Ines id*ot.
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п anyway Z patriot, what are you doing here? Why are you being a keyboard warrior whilst you can fight in Ukraine? With a bit of luck your mom gets a fur coat
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п I know she is with her mother now. As it is better for her than being in an orphanage. Also why did the man get house arrest orc? Exactly. Twisting of facts, the Russian way. Stop talking to me orc. I have no desire to communicate with a worm. Spreading lies like this girl's dad did hahaha, for being anti war. Amazing person you are. Common go fight in Ukraine Z patriot. I also know people in Russia as well as watch Russian on here that have a different opinion than you. They all tell me they can't say what they think or they'll go to jail. Not to mention that I have seen how they treated my friend who was raped by a colleague. So yeah I believe them over you orc.
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@Геннадий Шуплецов "very provincial" lmao. Joker. And wow amazingly you can critize your government with your keyboard lol. I think what it France happens is good, people should be able to show their discontent. We're not serfs like the Russians.
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@_Epsilon_ lmao which doesn't change anything..Nice try though. Your defense is that of a 19th century European telling you why their colonialism is a good thing.
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@Iriiskii 🤡.
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 @vitoldcostello7342 yeah but not a smart move to visit as a toerist now.
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@Chaldon 41 haha has Bakhmut fallen yet?
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@UserUser-ww2nj hmm okay 🤔
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@Геннадий Шуплецов besides the actions in the Holodomor and the constant Russification policies, of the Russian Empire. There was the betrayal for Catherine of the Cossacks and there was the Russian attack on the Ukrainian people's Republic causing the Ukrainian war of independence of 1917-1921.
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@Ростислав Серкіс i am not from Poland and I support Ukraine. But I don't support Bandera. He was an a**hole who has been mystified by Ukrainians. But, all of us have our heroes who are villains to others and the Russians are hypocrites criticising the Ukrainians for this considering they worship Stalin, a man who makes Bandera look like an angel.
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Ukraine used the same flag in 1917-1922
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@dickiydicker did I state he wanted to rebuild the USSR? Where exactly did I say so?)) Also Western Zombie? Let me guess you assume things because of my name)) ironic when you behave like a Zombie to accuse others of it. I personally don't believe he is rebuilding the Soviet Union. Considering his obsessions, I rather think he wants to rebuild a new Russian Empire. Funnily enough, I never watch Western news sources. Personally, I use other sources and always analyse my sources, a habit of having studied history on the university. I do use my own brain instead of guys like you ))
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 @janhanchenmichelsen2627 where have you been?
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@Jan Hanchen Michelsen I will check it. Thanks mate!
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@janhanchenmichelsen2627 thanks mate 🫡 слава Україні!
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п yeah and outside the big cities?
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@ГеннадийШуплецов-р8п hahaha to bad I have visited Russia and have friends there )). Let it blow my mind? Nah I have a standard of living multiple times higher than most Russians. No thanks. But believe your imperialist propaganda. Nothing has changed between you and the Soviet citizens not knowing the rest of the world. Then again it fits you guys as you are obsessed with the past.
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@Ice o Lator nice stereotyping and it's complete lies too. It are the Russians always wanting to serve a strong leader, not the Ukrainians. Stop spreading hate and lies.
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@bogdanvlad9165 I partly agree with you on this. I agree with the part that you can't talk about continuing fighting if you're not willing to fight yourself. The part about which I agree with him, is that, objectively, the coming 10 to 70 years if not longer, there will remain animosity between Ukraine and the Russian Federation and their peoples. An example of how this works, is the Franco-German rivalry of the late 19th and 20th centuries. With French revanchism being one of the driving factors of ww1 and German revanchism being the factor of ww2. Even in 1990 there were alot of French politicians that didn't want to see German reunification. The fact France and Germany as such close friends now, can be considered a diplomatic miracle.
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Are you serving? I get your point, I really do, it annoys me alot to see alot of young Ukrainian guys in the stadiums of the European Championships too, but if you don't serve, you can't tell others to go and die essentially.
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"Russophobic" you sure have never been to Ukraine. The reason they are "Russophobic" is because Russia has been bombing them and killing their friends and families. Has been arming seperatists for 8 years and annexed Ukrainian territory. Zelensky is Russian speaking himself. With so few brain capacity as you, you're not even human but a parrot just repeating what your führer tells you. Even proudly showing your Swastika. Also Ukraine is the only one deciding Ukraine's future, even if they would have been Russophobic, that would have been their decision (again they weren't before facist Russia started invading and arming people in 2014) and not Russia's. You openly state imperialist arguments whilst crying about the Americans. Hypocrite.
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@kostsekov yes
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@悲しい男-e1f A guy with a Chinese username, writing in Russian hmm yeah seems legit 🤔 🤣🤣
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@dickiydicker orc, you're only zombified person here. Hates the West so much but is on a Western app/site. Go troll in Russia, oh no wait critism there means you're going to jail.
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@vladimirthegreen6097 moskal lmao
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@vladimirthegreen6097 and yet you you call someone else Gogol? Where in Ukraine are you? Some friends and I'd like to meet you)). I'm currently in Odesa, normally in Kyiv and often Chernihiv. I'll bring some friends too, okay? )) I'll also tell them what you call others )).
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@КолоШубин who says I am "European", Moskal? )). I just refuse to speak Orcish )).
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@КолоШубин no the term Ukrainian wasn't used, yet the people we now know as Ukrainians were recognized as a seperate people. The Cossacks considered themselves a separate people from the Moscovites. Translators were needed with the signing of the treaty of Pereyaslav. Not to mention people like Taras Hryhorovych Shevchenko clearly speaking about the Ukrainian people and nation, in the Ukrainian language in the 19th century. The Russian Empire referred to Ukrainians as Malorussians, which you can see in the census data, whilst the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austrian Empire. Austro-Hungarian Empire and Second Polish Republic, referred to Ukrainians as "Ruthenians".
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@singular9 it has nothing to do with Poland though. Poland never annexed those territories through conquest. Lithuania did. Poland acquired them by transferring them from Lithuania to Poland within the union of Lublin. Kyiv fell because of the Mongols. Also it wasn't in 10th century AD but the 13th century AD and it didn't become Polish before the 15th century AD
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@Certaindeaf then, yeah.
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 @AlisaLavrenyuk and yet the Rus' isn't Russia either
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@causadirabbia good job boy. That is exactly what I say. That Belarusians, Ukrainians and Russians (Moscovites) all decendent from the Rus'. Where did I claim Ukraine to be the Rus' ?
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 @geertstroy Oekraïne. En ja klopt, zonder dat de meeste ook maar iets van het land wisten. Puur, omdat ze blind volgen wat andere zeggen.
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@Samimi_Sabimi historian. Masters in history with my expertise in Russian and Ukrainian history. Specifically Soviet and post Soviet history. The fact is that I just don't really feel like elaborating towards animals, as that is what you orc Moskals are. Again, don't talk to me and don't repeat imperialist myth to me as if is history. Долбоеб,
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Meanwhile Moskals openly worship Stalin. So yeah bit of hypocrisy going on here
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@Chaldon-hl6yk sarcasm is hard to understand no?
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@Zz_Mike-Hawk_zZ Bandera statues are very old? Please mate, Putin just revealed a new one. "He atleast won the war", which he helped starting. You are defending a mass murderer. Congratulations, you're a hypocrite. In your logic if Hitler had won the war, he'd be a good guy
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@nkrugliy my family is from Eastern Ukraine and they agree with the OP ))
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@Qvolepues "illegal coup" you mean kicking out Putin's puppet after he started killing protesters? Amazing way to twist history. A true orc. What happend in the Donbass was a small minority (the majority of rhe Donbass didn't support de DNR and LNR as the pre 22 February 2022 borders clearly showed) armed by the FSB and other Russian institution. The reason why Ukraine reacted militarily is because the seperatists kept attacking Ukrainian cities and shooting at Ukrianian police and servicemen. At first Ukraine didn't respond at all, but with the death of one of their cops near Sloviansk, they had to react.
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@vladimirthegreen6097 fair enough depends on the country I suppose. But personally I see the difference between my friends and family in Ukraine and friends in Russia. Regardless of ethnicity.
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@Casp.George so what you say is that in Ukraine the wishes of the majority doesn't matter? Only those of Eastern Ukraine (in which the majority is also pro Ukrainian) ? Also one is big and rich? Lol no both are poor countries xD. Russia's vilages in the provinces, don't even have sewers. One is just bigger and more corrupt than the other. There is a difference in mentality, Ukrainians are more like Europeans, as in more individualistic whilst Russians are focussed on more on the state.
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@casp.george8894 in a democracy the majority decides it is that simple. In the case of Eastern Ukraine, they lost an elections and a small minority armed by the Russians. As they were even a minority in the Donbass
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The Russian obsession with the UPA is hilarious at this point. Also stop worshipping Stalin a mass murderer, as long as you keep worshipping him, you really don't have the moral right to complain about other countries.
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